Todd Grantham the next DC per SI

[lefty96]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/todd-grantham-mississippi-state-defensive-coordinator-louisville-011117

[msstate7]

Great job, Mullen

[starkvegasdawg]

They report. I cheer.

[Big4Dawg]

http://www.si.com/college-football/2017/01/11/todd-grantham-mississippi-state-defensive-coordinator-louisville

[Op4isabitch]

I'm happy.

[msstate7]

1st call = willie gay

Not liking crystal balls to lsu lately

[vv83]

Hell yeah. Now go get get us Willie

[msstate7]

Hell yeah. Now go get get us Willie

This

[preachermatt83]

If anyone thinks this is not a cohen effect u are wrong. This is the man Dan wanted, and Cohen said well let's do it!!! Boom!!!

[vv83]

This has nothing to do with the hiring at all but I noticed the SI and Fox Sports article is literally the exact same article. Does Fox own SI or something?

[gtowndawg]

If anyone thinks this is not a cohen effect u are wrong. This is the man Dan wanted, and Cohen said well let's do it!!! Boom!!!

I agree.

[msstate7]

So how different is grantham's 3-4 than sirmon's? Will this past year benefit our players any or will this be another complete transformation?

[phatdog]

So how different is grantham's 3-4 than sirmon's? Will this past year benefit our players any or will this be another complete transformation?

Grantham knows how to coach it.

[Cooterpoot]

Grantham brings the pressure. Sirmon brought nothing.

[Bothrops]

Thanks, Cohen!!

[gtowndawg]

Hell yeah. Now go get get us Willie

Don't know who Willie is, but fingers crossed he coaches o-line.

[DancingRabbit]

Thanks Adidas !! **

[starkvegasdawg]

Thanks Junction.

[BrunswickDawg]

Hey Hugh, Dan treating you like.....

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[msstate7]

Hey Hugh, Dan treating you like.....

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Love that movie

[bulldawg28]

Don't know who Willie is, but fingers crossed he coaches o-line.

Lmao

[Bama_Dawg]

Don't know who Willie is, but fingers crossed he coaches o-line.

All I could think about is Bruce Willis in Armageddon saying, "Crazy Willie put you up to this?"

IIRC, we are talking Willie Gay.

[bulldog2488]

Love this hire!

[GreenheadDawg]

Wow. Best move by Mullen since he's been here.

[louisvilledawg]

Don't know who Willie is, but fingers crossed he coaches o-line.

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[lefty96]

So how different is grantham's 3-4 than sirmon's? Will this past year benefit our players any or will this be another complete transformation?

I like how you said "past year" "and "benefit" in the same sentence.

[saltydawg77]

Does anyone know what the contract details are? The article stated a multi-year deal. I'm just wondering how big John Cohen's check book is!!!! Awesome hire Dan Mullen and John Cohen!!!!!!!!! Cohen has got big balz!!!!!!!!! Love this hire. I will be shocked if we don't land Willie Gay and a few more big time recruits after this hire!!!!! HAIL STATE!

[Reason2succeed]

Love it! Any word of his staff?

[TheRef]

Love it! Any word of his staff?

Buckley was CB coach under Grantham at Louisville before coming here. He will probably stay. Grantham may bring in his brother to help with LBs.

[maroonmania]

First time I've ever felt Mullen was actually serious about trying to win a championship at MSU.

[Sacrifice]

Wow. Best move by Mullen since he's been here.

I was thinking the same thing. Best DC Mullen has hired to date. I think we'll see a truly different style of D under Grantham

[justwin]

we're going to beat the shit out of Georgia

[TrapGame]

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[dawgday166]

I've moved from "somewhat hopeful" to "cautiously optimistic" :cool:

[BrunswickDawg]

we're going to beat the shit out of Georgia
Between Grantham wanting to stick it to UGA and Fitz wanting to show his home state what they missed, I'd say it has moved from toss up to maybe.

[ScoobaDawg]

Posted on the school website now also
http://hailstate.com/news/2017/1/11/football-todd-grantham-named-msu-defensive-coordinator-and-linebackers-coach.aspx

[Really Clark?]

This is not confirmed yet but that is the number I was sent

[Bama_Dawg]

we're going to beat the shit out of Georgia

I'd let Grantham and Fitz game plan this one.

Have Dan on the side giving some input, but let the other two plan to really give the other dogs a beat down.

[justwin]

Between Grantham wanting to stick it to UGA and Fitz wanting to show his home state what they missed, I'd say it has moved from toss up to maybe.

don't forget Rivers & Abram

[tireddawg]

I'd let Grantham and Fitz game plan this one.

Have Dan on the side giving some input, but let the other two plan to really give the other dogs a beat down.

You're kidding right? You forget these **?

[KB21]

So how different is grantham's 3-4 than sirmon's? Will this past year benefit our players any or will this be another complete transformation?

It is very different. Peter's defense was more of a hybrid defense than a true 3-4. We ran 4 down linemen a lot under Peter.

Todd is a straight up 3-4 guy. There is no hybrid safety/linebacker position in his scheme. Both OLBs will be big. You can look for Marquis Spencer and Montez Sweat to have a great chance at starting at OLB. He will likely run a one gap odd man front and will bring the zone blitz.

[Sacrifice]

Hell it's on Wikipedia now..

Grantham was hired by Dan Mullen to be the defensive coordinator at Mississippi State University. He was given a multi year deal, with financial details not yet disclosed. Ironically, Grantham's predecessor at Mississippi State, Peter Sirmon, was hired to be defensive coordinator at the University of Louisville after being terminated at Mississippi State. Grantham was hired by Mullen at the 2017 AFCA convention in Nashville, TN after the two "clicked" over shoes and t-ball.

[Sacrifice]

Meanwhile in candy land, they still have no DC....Pitiful!

[Dawg61]

Thanks Adidas !! **

They are an Adidas school

[Dawg61]

we're going to beat the shit out of Georgia

hahahaha yes I believe we are

[GTHOM]

It is very different. Peter's defense was more of a hybrid defense than a true 3-4. We ran 4 down linemen a lot under Peter.

Todd is a straight up 3-4 guy. There is no hybrid safety/linebacker position in his scheme. Both OLBs will be big. You can look for Marquis Spencer and Montez Sweat to have a great chance at starting at OLB. He will likely run a one gap odd man front and will bring the zone blitz.

You can count on Grantham doing his thing or he wouldn't have came here. He's not a yes man

[preachermatt83]

You can count on Grantham doing his thing or he wouldn't have came here. He's not a yes man

No doubt. Far from it. Dan will completely hand the defense over to him.

[Liverpooldawg]

On paper it looks to be the best DC hire we have made under Mullen. We will see how it goes. I'm happy about it for sure.

[Lance Harbor]

If anyone thinks this is not a cohen effect u are wrong. This is the man Dan wanted, and Cohen said well let's do it!!! Boom!!!

You really enjoy making up conversations for the MSU admin don't you?

[maroonmania]

On paper it looks to be the best DC hire we have made under Mullen. We will see how it goes. I'm happy about it for sure.

Well one thing we CAN say for sure is its a step up from Sirmon.

[GTHOM]

For anyone who was bashing the 3-4 for this past season. You will see what a 3-4 really looks like come spring and september. Its the way to go if its done right

[blacklistedbully]

Hell it's on Wikipedia now..

Grantham was hired by Dan Mullen to be the defensive coordinator at Mississippi State University. He was given a multi year deal, with financial details not yet disclosed. Ironically, Grantham's predecessor at Mississippi State, Peter Sirmon, was hired to be defensive coordinator at the University of Louisville after being terminated at Mississippi State. Grantham was hired by Mullen at the 2017 AFCA convention in Nashville, TN after the two "clicked" over shoes and t-ball.

This was taken from a post on SPS, most likely one that was followed, or should have been followed by ***. This is why Wikipedia is not allowed as a true reference.

[blacklistedbully]

You really enjoy making up conversations for the MSU admin don't you?

I think he's correct. Was thinking the same thing. I bet John is determined to make a big splash, and to redefine what an AD can do at MSU.

[Boodawg]

Hell it's on Wikipedia now..

Grantham was hired by Dan Mullen to be the defensive coordinator at Mississippi State University. He was given a multi year deal, with financial details not yet disclosed. Ironically, Grantham's predecessor at Mississippi State, Peter Sirmon, was hired to be defensive coordinator at the University of Louisville after being terminated at Mississippi State. Grantham was hired by Mullen at the 2017 AFCA convention in Nashville, TN after the two "clicked" over shoes and t-ball.

I'm sure Sirmon was pretty much asked to leave, but this article says he was actually terminated.

[BrunswickDawg]

don't forget Rivers & Abram

Yeah - They will be head hunting in the secondary.

[ScoobaDawg]

I'm sure Sirmon was pretty much asked to leave, but this article says he was actually terminated.


What article. Wikipedia isn't a real news source. Anyone can put anything there.

[Sacrifice]

I'm thinking this has been in the works for awhile. You just don't go out and pull a coach making a mill a year overnight. This may be a common thing for Bama but not us.
Sirmon was probably told we're looking so you need to be looking. There's no way after last years defensive performance we could keep him. He was in way over his head

[maroonmania]

I'm thinking this has been in the works for awhile. You just don't go out and pull a coach making a mill a year overnight. This may be a common thing for Bama but not us.
Sirmon was probably told we're looking so you need to be looking. There's no way after last years defensive performance we could keep him. He was in way over his head

What I can't figure out is why even with losing Grantham that UofL would want to hire Sirmon? Heck, I know Sirmon has PAC-12 associations but why in the world was Colorado interested? Did anyone actually watch our Defense play this year?

[Sacrifice]

What I can't figure out is why even with losing Grantham that UofL would want to hire Sirmon? Heck, I know Sirmon has PAC-12 associations but why in the world was Colorado interested? Did anyone actually watch our Defense play this year?

I can't figure that part out either, makes no sense but watch Sirmon look like the second coming of Buddy Ryan at UofL

[Bully13]

You really enjoy making up conversations for the MSU admin don't you?

What's that all about?

[Cary Hudson's little bro]

I bet Mullen tried to get Grantham last year and couldn't pull him bc we didn't have the players for it. Now we do

[KB21]

What I can't figure out is why even with losing Grantham that UofL would want to hire Sirmon? Heck, I know Sirmon has PAC-12 associations but why in the world was Colorado interested? Did anyone actually watch our Defense play this year?

Most people that truly understand football realize that Mississippi State's defensive performance isn't all about the coaching.

[Dawg61]

I bet Mullen tried to get Grantham last year and couldn't pull him bc we didn't have the players for it. Now we do

If he did he couldn't pull him cause Wakeyleaks hadn't happened yet and Snake Stricklin was still here and wouldn't ok enough money for that hire to happen

[Jarius]

Most people that truly understand football realize that Mississippi State's defensive performance isn't all about the coaching.

Neither Colorado or Louisville recruit as well as state on the defensive side of the ball.

[maroonmania]

Most people that truly understand football realize that Mississippi State's defensive performance isn't all about the coaching.

Most people that "truly understand football" (geez) realize that a defense that has at least decent talent that finishes 110th in total defense is largely about the coaching. To be honest it takes a mixture of a lack of talent and poor coaching to be that bad.

[RocketDawg]

Neither Colorado or Louisville recruit as well as state on the defensive side of the ball.

What's the deal with Sirmon? Last night, the word seemed to be that he was going to Colorado. I got an bulletin form Bleacher Report a couple hours ago saying MSU and Louisville had traded DCs, i.e., he was going to Louisville and Grantham coming to us.

[maroonmania]

What's the deal with Sirmon? Last night, the word seemed to be that he was going to Colorado. I got an bulletin form Bleacher Report a couple hours ago saying MSU and Louisville had traded DCs, i.e., he was going to Louisville and Grantham coming to us.

As best I understand, Colorado went a different direction and once we had the deal in place with Grantham then Sirmon was able to snag the UL job.

[preachermatt83]

What's that all about?

You know who this "lance harbor" guy is don't you? Let's just say he's been banned several times. I thought last time was an IP ban but guess not.

[DanDority]

Has anyone thought about how hard it is for players to "play" and not "react" in football when you have a new Defensive staff every year or so?

[BrunswickDawg]

You know who this "lance harbor" guy is don't you? Let's just say he's been banned several times. I thought last time was an IP ban but guess not.

Which guy? The one who hates bunts or the guy who was schizo?

[Rex]

You know who this "lance harbor" guy is don't you? Let's just say he's been banned several times. I thought last time was an IP ban but guess not.

Lance Harbor is a terrible human being. Once he got banned from 247 but came back as Stagger Lee.

[preachermatt83]

Which guy? The one who hates bunts or the guy who was schizo?

Bunt hater.

[RC3]

I am going to go in this with low expectations. UGA fans overwhelmingly dislike the guy, and UL fans don't seem to mind that he is moving on either.

[dawgday166]

I am going to go in this with low expectations. UGA fans overwhelmingly dislike the guy, and UL fans don't seem to mind that he is moving on either.

I'm in this camp myself. Scratching my head except it seems all CFB fans are the same all over lol.

I have moved from "somewhat hopeful" to "cautiously optimistic" about next year tho.

[RC3]

I'm in this camp myself. Scratching my head except it seems all CFB fans are the same all over lol.

I have moved from "somewhat hopeful" to "cautiously optimistic" about next year tho.


If he can make us a top 25 defense year in and year out, that will be much better than what we've had much of Mullen's tenure. I think that's a reasonable expectation

[dawgday166]

If he can make us a top 25 defense year in and year out, that will be much better than what we've had much of Mullen's tenure. I think that's a reasonable expectation

I'm there too.

If we can be top 25 on D AND top 25 on O ... we would probably have a pretty stellar record. I'm guessing this past year we might would have only lost to Bama with those type of rankings.

[Really Clark?]

All the scheme talk and Grantham evolving from Georgia to Louisville and I completely forgot he was the DL coach for Saban at Michigan St for 3 years

[Lance Harbor]

You know who this "lance harbor" guy is don't you? Let's just say he's been banned several times. I thought last time was an IP ban but guess not.

Nope. Never banned.

[Lance Harbor]

Lance Harbor is a terrible human being. Once he got banned from 247 but came back as Stagger Lee.

Stagger Lee fathered your children.

[Dawg61]

Bunt hater.

You saying Lance Harbor is Will James?

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[Barking 13]

I've moved from "somewhat hopeful" to "cautiously optimistic" :cool:

I've been there a while......