National championship game

[msstate7]

How does venables not have a HC job?

[HereComesTheSpiral]

How did Foster not get a targeting penalty

[BayouDawg]

Clemson can definitely hang in athletically if they can avoid letting Bama get cheap points

[RocketDawg]

How did Foster not get a targeting penalty

Yeah, he should have.

[RocketDawg]

Good stop by Bama.

[LC Dawg]

How did Foster not get a targeting penalty
He plays for Bama.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

He plays for Bama.

So the fix is in, got it. Going to watch a movie.

[Liverpooldawg]

Nice going Dabo. You don't go for it against that D that early.

[RocketDawg]

Scarborough just earned his $$.

[LC Dawg]

That 4th down stop was same as a turnover. Can't do that against Bama.

[msstate7]

Nice going Dabo. You don't go for it against that D that early.

Such a dumb move esp if you plan to run. At least quick slant for the 1st

[msstate7]

No PI. No targeting. No targeting. Total BS

[dawgday166]

No PI. No targeting. No targeting. Total BS

I'm with you dude. That was blatant.

[ShotgunDawg]

Are Bama players on steroids?

Seriously, no other college team has body types that are even close to these guys. It's crazy how thick they are

[LC Dawg]

Once Bama gets up 3 or 4 touchdowns the refs will eject one of their players for an illegal hit. Just to have it on record.

[trob115]

The Bama effect is in play with these officials. Clemson can beat them if they would call it even.

[Political Hack]

Scarborough just earned his $$.

Game MVP and 200+ rushing yards. Calling it now.

[maroonmania]

No PI. No targeting. No targeting. Total BS

Yep, Bama already uses an illegal hit to knock out Williams.

[msstate7]

Hey venables, Bama doesn't trust the sec offensive player of the year to throw a pass on obvious passing situations... play zone

[RocketDawg]

Hurts is no Fitz, but he runs pretty well.

[msstate7]

I wish our dline batted balls like Clemson

[BayouDawg]

If he could've got that block clean it would've been 6. Typical Bama luck. There's already been 3 or 4 batted up passes but of course they fall harmlessly to the turf.

[archdog]

Until someone moves the ball on Bama, I am saying it is impossible.

[GreenheadDawg]

**** Clemson. Roll tide

[DeputyDawg94]

I. HATE. BAMA. I hope the tigers find a way to win.

[msstate7]

Clemson trainers, "what's your number?"

5 mins later, williams looks at jersey, "uhhh... 7?"

Clemson trainers, "he's good"

[BayouDawg]

It's pointless to even watch college football. Thanks Saban you have ruined college football.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hurts has regressed this year. No doubt in my mind

[ShotgunDawg]

It's pointless to even watch college football. Thanks Saban you have ruined college football.

Agree. Bama is boarderline inept on offense and still can't be beaten

[msstate7]

Thank God, Saban used the qb that can't complete passes vs good teams or this year would've been much worse than it has been.

[msstate7]

I hate em, but they're really good. Love that execution on punt after getting last one blocked

[RocketDawg]

Agree. Bama is boarderline inept on offense and still can't be beaten

Forget something. Such as ***?

[RocketDawg]

When did they change the trophy to an unbreakable one?

[msstate7]

Watson thinking draft? Foster scare the daylights out of him with early targeting?

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Foster loves to lead with the crown of the helmet, just a matter of time before he breaks his neck.

[msstate7]

Foster loves to lead with the crown of the helmet, just a matter of time before he breaks his neck.
Won't fly in NFL. Refs there don't care if he played at bama

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Won't fly in NFL. Refs there don't care if he played at bama

So he's going to be broke and paralyzed.

[ShotgunDawg]

Sark is Freezus 2.0. Bubble screen left bubble screen right

[msstate7]

Welp... score or lose right here Clemson

[msstate7]

Sark is Freezus 2.0. Bubble screen left bubble screen right

Hurts is limited

[RocketDawg]

Far Swinney ....

[msstate7]

Hugh freeze is a dip, but he knows how to play Bama... attack, attack, attack. I thought dabo had that in him, but he's coaching scared

[RocketDawg]

Sark is Freezus 2.0. Bubble screen left bubble screen right

Maybe, but it's working.

[Liverpooldawg]

Hugh freeze is a dip, but he knows how to play Bama... attack, attack, attack. I thought dabo had that in him, but he's coaching scared

I'd say it's more like his quarterback, and his offensive line, is playing scared. Going for it on 4th and 1 against Bama on the first drive ain't coaching scared.

[ShotgunDawg]

Should the Cowboys draft Scarborough at the back of the 1st round and just create a 1-2 ball sack punch with him and Elliott?

[msstate7]

Should the Cowboys draft Scarborough at the back of the 1st round and just create a 1-2 ball sack punch with him and Elliott?

How many Bama RBs have to be drafted high before people realize it's their system?

[ShotgunDawg]

How many Bama RBs have to be drafted high before people realize it's their system?

Fwiw, I think Scarborough is the most talented one they've had.

He's a more physical version of Darren McFaddon IMO

[RocketDawg]

Fwiw, I think Scarborough is the most talented on they've had

Isn't he the one that OM paid and Saban made him give it back?

[ShotgunDawg]

Isn't he the one that OM paid and Saban made him give it back?

Yes

[msstate7]

Terrible punt. Might cost Clemson big time

[msstate7]

Sec offensive player of the year can't be trusted to pass. Hurts winning offensive OPOY is a joke

[msstate7]

Do they not teach punt returners to stand on 10 and let anything over head go?

[LC Dawg]

Sec offensive player of the year can't be trusted to pass. Hurts winning offensive OPOY is a joke
I agree. I don't know if Clemson can score enough but it would be funny to me if Bama loses because the SEC OPOY is not good at offense.

[RocketDawg]

The guy in the white hat looks like he's taking performance enhancing drugs.

[DeputyDawg94]

Nah. He's on the Bama strength and conditioning program.

[msstate7]

I don't understand why Clemson isn't attacking with the passing game more.

[msstate7]

Review here, but neither of the Bama targets in 1st quarter.

[Schultzy]

Review here, but neither of the Bama targets in 1st quarter.

Booth so quick on catch review but had forever to buzz on the obvious helmet to helmet which is a point of emphasis and chose not to.

I just don't understand it.

[msstate7]

Booth so quick on catch review but had forever to buzz on the obvious helmet to helmet which is a point of emphasis and chose not to.

I just don't understand it.

It's pretty much wrassling... how do you call the foster personal foul and not call it targeting? Forceful contact to the neck or head area

[msstate7]

Bama gets every review

[Schultzy]

It's pretty much wrassling... how do you call the foster personal foul and not call it targeting? Forceful contact to the neck or head area
Targeting can only be helmet to helmet and it is specified in the rule book that way, as it should be. They got Foster on his 2nd one after warning him verbally the first time.

[HSVDawg]

Should the Cowboys draft Scarborough at the back of the 1st round and just create a 1-2 ball sack punch with him and Elliott?

Hell no. Why in the hell would they waste a pick there when they have a 21 year old bellcow already? They need help on D with that pick. Now if Scarbrough is still hanging around in the 4th round? Maybe different story.

[msstate7]

Targeting can only be helmet to helmet and it is specified in the rule book that way, as it should be. They got Foster on his 2nd one after warning him verbally the first time.

No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch?a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

...

Pretty much sums up both of those hits

[Liverpooldawg]

I think EMS just went on alert in Alabama.

[Schultzy]

Wonder who Joey Freshwater is Reeeaallly rooting for tonight?

[LC Dawg]

Bama will get a pick 6 before this is over. They always seem to get the big play.

[RocketDawg]

Watson did a full 720 on that hit.

[RocketDawg]

Bama will get a pick 6 before this is over. They always seem to get the big play.

They always seem to score 2 or 3 TDs in a hurry and you're far behind before you know it. So far that hasn't happened here but probably will.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

How is Foster still in this game?

[msstate7]

How is Foster still in this game?

He doesn't wear an orange helmet

[RocketDawg]

They always seem to score 2 or 3 TDs in a hurry and you're far behind before you know it. So far that hasn't happened here but probably will.

And it starts ....

[maroonmania]

Good grief Clemson. They had 3 defenders to cover 2 receivers and all 3 get caught going after the fake bubble screen to give up the TD.

[LC Dawg]

And it starts ....
And if Clemson presses too hard on this drive Bama will make them pay.

[RocketDawg]

Several stores, like Dick's and Academy Sports, will reopen after the game tonight across the state to sell championship gear if Alabama wins.

[RocketDawg]

There's an unusual number of early penalties against Alabama tonight. Think it could be because non-SEC officials are there?

[LC Dawg]

Several stores, like Dick's and Academy Sports, will reopen after the game tonight across the state to sell championship gear if Alabama wins.
Won't matter. Wal-Mart is open 24/7.

[msstate7]

Saban crying about wr's pushing off is laughable when his db's rape receivers

[RocketDawg]

Won't matter. Wal-Mart is open 24/7.

Good point.

[Dawgtini]

That "tunnel screen" that Clempson keeps running is producing against the Bama D. I hope Mullen is taking notes.

[LC Dawg]

This is an impressive drive. They've got Bama on their heels. Hopefully the end of quarter won't slow their momentum.

[maroonmania]

Well I would be happy if Bama lost but that was a pick play for a TD if I've ever seen one.

[Commercecomet24]

No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)

Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:

Launch?a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area
A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground
Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area
Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet

...

Pretty much sums up both of those hits

He wasn't considered defenseless as he was running the football that's why no targeting.

[Liverpooldawg]

Well I would be happy if Bama lost but that was a pick play for a TD if I've ever seen one.

Yep. It's interesting watching a game where Saben isn't getting every call he wants

[drunkernhelldawg]

Exceptional game. Glad I' m watching.

[Commercecomet24]

Well I would be happy if Bama lost but that was a pick play for a TD if I've ever seen one.

That was about as blatant a pick as you will ever see. Bama ain't got sec protection tonight!

[LC Dawg]

Its fun seeing Bama not getting calls. Now they know how all the SEC teams feel when playing them.

[msstate7]

He wasn't considered defenseless as he was running the football that's why no targeting.

Watson didn't have ball.

Williams got hit by Bama player lowering head and leading with helmet... doesn't have to be defenseless if it's launching

[defiantdog]

Alabama is playing this game like it's just another game. Clemson is playing it likes it's their last.

[Cooterpoot]

Hurts sucks and the play calling is garbage for Bama. Clemson is running picks on every pass play and just knocking DBs down. Screens killing them too.

[Irondawg]

Another break for Clemson there as Howard totally missed that play call and screwed up a perfectly set up screen. Big Mo favoring Clemson right now

[Liverpooldawg]

Alabama is playing this game like it's just another game. Clemson is playing it likes it's their last.

For Clemson it is. They lose the farm after this year.

[Commercecomet24]

Watson didn't have ball.

Williams got hit by Bama player lowering head and leading with helmet... doesn't have to be defenseless if it's launching

The reason it wasn't called is because he was not considered defenseless. Right or wrong it's why they didn't call it. I've had this explained to me by more than one NCAA official.

[msstate7]

Big sack... probably gonna lead to Bama points now

[msstate7]

The reason it wasn't called is because he was not considered defenseless. Right or wrong it's why they didn't call it. I've had this explained to me by more than one NCAA official.

You've had more than one NCAA official explain that play to you tonight?

[Dawgtini]

For Clemson it is. They lose the farm after this year.
True. Bama could be right back here, they are not loaded with Sr players. Clemson has peaked.

[Dawg61]

Make or break time for Clemson defense

[msstate7]

True. Bama could be right back here, they are not loaded with Sr players. Clemson has peaked.

Of course Bama will reload, but they'll be gutted of current players anyway

[RocketDawg]

You've had more than one NCAA official explain that play to you tonight?

Speed dial. **

[drunkernhelldawg]

Alabama is playing this game like it's just another game. Clemson is playing it likes it's their last.

that's a big part of what's happening

[Irondawg]

What's up with Hurts? He's looked pretty terrible the past few games. Just a product of playing better defenses?

[Dawg61]

that's a big part of what's happening

Saban doesn't put up with that. Only reason this game is close is cause Bama can't pass.

[msstate7]

What's up with Hurts? He's looked pretty terrible the past few games. Just a product of playing better defenses?

He was terrible vs lsu. Bama let the wrong qb walk imo. With Barnett, Bama would be rolling.

[ShotgunDawg]

What's up with Hurts? He's looked pretty terrible the past few games. Just a product of playing better defenses?

Really hesitant. Tucks & runs when first read isn't there.

Will be interesting to see how he develops over the next few years. He's currently headed the wrong direction

[LC Dawg]

This game is going to last more than 4 hours. It's almost midnight in Tampa.

[Dawg61]

Really hesitant. Tucks & runs when first read isn't there.

Will be interesting to see how he develops over the next few years. He's currently headed the wrong direction

He's only asked to manage the game and not turn it over. Lots of time for him to improve in the passing game. I am not looking forward to facing him 3 more years.

[drunkernhelldawg]

This game is going to last more than 4 hours. It's almost midnight in Tampa.

Weird how long the third quarter lasted. It didn't seeem like it.

[defiantdog]

Sorry Tusk, but Clemson is going to take this. Bama is hanging by a thread. They have zero offense.

[msstate7]

Sorry Tusk, but Clemson is going to take this. Bama is hanging by a thread. They have zero offense.

Hurts me to see Bama offense

[drunkernhelldawg]

what a catch

[Irondawg]

That pass to Williams is what he rebs did to them. Just chunk it up deep and let the wr make a play

[Dawg61]

Getting very interesting now

[Dawg61]

Phenomenal catch

[msstate7]

That pass to Williams is what he rebs did to them. Just chunk it up deep and let the wr make a play

We don't have those kind of WRs. Got to get better there

[defiantdog]

We don't have those kind of WRs. Got to get better there

Malik Heath is that type of receiver

[msstate7]

Malik Heath is that type of receiver

Wish we could pull one this year too

[Irondawg]

Well well well. Having a good qb just keeps you in every game if you are at least decent everywhere else. Watson has impressed me this second half

[maroonmania]

Sorry Tusk, but Clemson is going to take this. Bama is hanging by a thread. They have zero offense.

And Bama's offense has not only been putrid this second half but have thrown a ton of incomplete passes to prolong the 4th quarter.

[defiantdog]

Wish we could pull one this year too
It's kind of hard when you're recruiting against LSU for receivers.

[msstate7]

It's kind of hard when you're recruiting against LSU for receivers.

Yep

[dawgday166]

And Bama's offense has not only been putrid this second half but have thrown a ton of incomplete passes to prolong the 4th quarter.

Don't count them you just yet. God smiles on them for some reason. They tend to pull something out of their ass.

[Dawg61]

Trick play! man this game is getting gooooooood

[drunkernhelldawg]

Wow. Maybe Saben isn't as old as he is.

[Dawg61]

Hurts running doesn't look so bad now

[Irondawg]

That was the Hurts that beat us down

[msstate7]

Still time

[drunkernhelldawg]

Who else wants four overtimes?

[LC Dawg]

Hurts running doesn't look so bad now
Yeah, but they had to get a receiver to make the clutch throw.

[Liverpooldawg]

What a ball gane

[Dawg61]

Yeah, but they had to get a receiver to make the clutch throw.

haha true

[Dawg61]

Williams killing Bama dbs

[msstate7]

Williams is unbelievable

[Irondawg]

Surprised Bama is selling out so much trying to create a negative play. I've never seen them rush so many guys before

[Irondawg]

What a throw and catch

[Irondawg]

Massive pick play coming again. It's what I would call

[Dawg61]

Clemson can steal this at midnight, fumblerooski?

[dawgday166]

Need a TD. No FG. TD dammit.

[msstate7]

Lol

[Dawg61]

wow congrats Clemson

[RezDog7]

Buck Fama

[defiantdog]

They won on a pick play..... good figure

[LC Dawg]

Wow. Really didn't think they could do it. Congrats to Clemson.

[Liverpooldawg]

That was a pic play

[RocketDawg]

Quite a game.

[msstate7]

Clemson got ball 66 yards away with 2 mins to go. Hey Saban, sirmon couldn't have blown it any better hahahahhahahhahahaa

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Sisters and livestock put under emergency watch in Alabama tonight

[RocketDawg]

That was a pic play

Why don't we do that. Apparently you can get away with it most of the time.

[LC Dawg]

You think Lane Kiffin is wearing a **** you smirk right now?

[maroonmania]

They won on a pick play..... good figure

Yep, 2 of Clemson's 5 TDs scored on pick plays.

[Liverpooldawg]

It's fun to see Bama lose on controversial no calls that went against them

[maroonmania]

Why don't we do that. Apparently you can get away with it most of the time.

Because SEC refs would penalize us for it 10 out of 10 times. Especially if it was done against Bama.

[RocketDawg]

Fire Saban. They pay $10M for that?? **

[msstate7]

They won on a pick play..... good figure

Saints run those every game and NFL officials don't call it.

[Liverpooldawg]

Why don't we do that. Apparently you can get away with it most of the time.

Try it against Bama with SEC refs and see what happens.

[Irondawg]

Dare the officials to call it on the last play. They didn't call it earlier and I would have called the same play. However if that had gone against us I'd be pissed for the rest of my life. The outside wr was clearly not even trying to run a route, but was just a bulldozer

[dawgday166]

The mighty have fallen. Nice.

[Dawg61]

You think Lane Kiffin is wearing a **** you smirk right now?

From the 3 hookers in his hotel room yes

[HereComesTheSpiral]

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/33031030.jpg

[RocketDawg]

Dare the officials to call it on the last play. They didn't call it earlier and I would have called the same play. However if that had gone against us I'd be pissed for the rest of my life. The outside wr was clearly not even trying to run a route, but was just a bulldozer

I don't really know why it's illegal though.

[RocketDawg]

I guess those clerks that were on the way to Dick's and Academy can turn around and go home now.

[Liverpooldawg]

I live just a few miles from the Bama line. I hope the riots don't spill over here.********

[defiantdog]

Dare the officials to call it on the last play. They didn't call it earlier and I would have called the same play. However if that had gone against us I'd be pissed for the rest of my life. The outside wr was clearly not even trying to run a route, but was just a bulldozer
Again, no holding calls were called all game on either side. The officials let them play.

[mparkerfd20]

Well guess Saban won't be retiring anytime soon.

[DeputyDawg94]

LOVE! IT! Piss on Bama.

[Mjoelner34]

I hope you guys dumped your Walmart stock today.

[maroonmania]

I don't really know why it's illegal though.

For the same reason a moving screen is illegal in basketball.

[HSVDawg]

You think Lane Kiffin is wearing a **** you smirk right now?

Probably not. Sark outscored him by 7 with a whole week under his belt and against a much better defense.

[Liverpooldawg]

Watson admits it was a pic play on national TV.

[msstate7]

Hey Florida, how the heck you let Watson leave Gainesville?

[defiantdog]

Watson just admitted that they were trying for the pick play at the end there..... nice

[tireddawg]

Just an equalizer

[Liverpooldawg]

Watson just admitted that they were trying for the pick play at the end there..... nice

Yep, they purposely cheated to get the win,

[msstate7]

Hugh freeze and dabo are the same person?

[Liverpooldawg]

Yep, they purposely cheated to get the win,

Nice to see Bama get screwed for once.

[msstate7]

Yep, they purposely cheated to get the win,

Don't melt for Bama... they don't need help

[LC Dawg]

At least a former Mississippi State baseball player caught the winning pass.***

[Dawg61]

Hugh freeze and dabo are the same person?

Nah Dabo seems like a legit good dude to me

[defiantdog]

Hugh freeze and dabo are the same person?
Not a chance. I actually personally know Dabo. He's a good guy who literally came from nothing and gives a lot back. Nothing like Freeze.

[dawgday166]

Don't melt for Bama... they don't need help

Hell they had 2 guys should've been ejected for targeting if I recall correctly. They were head hunting early in the game. Same way they did in '09 against Colt McCoy.

[Dawg61]

At least a former Mississippi State baseball player caught the winning pass.***

Couldn't make it in MLB but he atleast got a natty ring now***

[msstate7]

Hell they had 2 guys should've been ejected for targeting if I recall correctly. They were head hunting early in the game. Same way they did in '09 against Colt McCoy.

Yep

[msstate7]

Not a chance. I actually personally know Dabo. He's a good guy who literally came from nothing and gives a lot back. Nothing like Freeze.

Just listening to him sounded like freeze... God made it possible... we played with love for each other

[defiantdog]

Just listening to him sounded like freeze... God made it possible... we played with love for each other
Yeah, he's a good guy though. He supports a lot of charities here in Birmingham and doesn't do it for recruiting purposes like someone else. He's good people.

[RocketDawg]

Yep, they purposely cheated to get the win,

Makes you wonder about Dabo, huh?

[Schultzy]

I totally jinxed Alabama!

[Schultzy]

So vey sorry!

[WildDawg]

Bama didn't get that defensive TD in this game. They depended on those all year to finish opponents. Also, the lucky bounces started waning after halftime....i.e. Punt hits and parallels the end zone on the 1 yard line.

[HSVDawg]

Yep, they purposely cheated to get the win,

Just like Bama DB's purposely cheat on every passing play by holding, grabbing, and shoving WR's all the way down the field in an effort to normalize pass interference and daring the officials to call it. Pushing the envelope and seeing what you can get away with is part of the game. Dabo does it on offense, Saban does it on defense. Turnabout is fair play.

[Liverpooldawg]

Just like Bama DB's purposely cheat on every passing play by holding, grabbing, and shoving WR's all the way down the field in an effort to normalize pass interference and daring the officials to call it. Pushing the envelope and seeing what you can get away with is part of the game. Dabo does it on offense, Saban does it on defense. Turnabout is fair play.

Not defending Bama but a lot of that contact I saw was Clemson receivers either pushing off or running pics on every pass play. There were a LOT of no calls on plays that Dabo went ape over that were no calls for that reason.