Army all American game

[msstate7]

I know we aren't in any of the decisions today, but are there any decisions that affect other players we're recruiting?

[msstate7]

What number is gay? Bowie?

[preachermatt83]

Gay is 10
Bowie is 1
Akers is 3

[CadaverDawg]

Gay is 10, Bowie is 1

[preachermatt83]

Gay is fast enough at OLB to cover. He's not as big as I thought he was.

[CadaverDawg]

Yancy tweeted out a list of like 5 guys that Ole Miss fans need to watch, LOL

[msstate7]

Yancy tweeted out a list of like 5 guys that Ole Miss fans need to watch, LOL

Do OM fans not call him out on crap like that?

[CadaverDawg]

Yancy tweeted out a list of like 5 guys that Ole Miss fans need to watch, LOL

Omar Manning
Willie Gay
DD Bowie
Tedarrell Slaton
Jalen Parks
Devon Hunter

[CadaverDawg]

Do OM fans not call him out on crap like that?

The only reply said "Gay decommitted and DD says he wants a FSU offer". Ha

[msstate7]

Well cam looks more comfortable at rb now. Very nice run

[preachermatt83]

Cam first run was very very impressive. Much better than anything he did at ms/al game

[preachermatt83]

West defense is fast

[CadaverDawg]

I wish we could get an elite pass rusher. Or even a Marquis Haynes level one

[msstate7]

I wish we could get an elite pass rusher

Maybe spencer can be that guy off the edge. I thought he showed some promise as a true freshman

[Ari Gold]

I wish we could get an elite pass rusher. Or even a Marquis Haynes level one

Sweat is going to be that next year.

[CadaverDawg]

Maybe spencer can be that guy off the edge. I thought he showed some promise as a true freshman

True. He's young too so he should only get better. I hope we don't have him add a ton of weight like we typically do to all DE's and ruin his speed. We're too damn slow on D

[preachermatt83]

Young man teared up making his commitment to Oregon state. Was truly appreciative of his blessings. Not drama and entitlement. Good deal.

[HoopsDawg]

we are looking at the punter in this game.

[CadaverDawg]

Sweat is going to be that next year.

Man I hope so. I just knew Denico Autry was too...but he never really did much in terms of sacks or QB pressure

[CadaverDawg]

we are looking at the punter in this game.

Which one?

[CadaverDawg]

Young man teared up making his commitment to Oregon state. Was truly appreciative of his blessings. Not drama and entitlement. Good deal.

Yea I enjoyed seeing that. Although the hat ceremonies are old, played out, and super attention seeking imo.

[preachermatt83]

Martel is gonna be really good for Ohio st

[HoopsDawg]

Which one?

42 for the East, Tucker Day. We haven't offered yet though.

And we have offered 97 for the East, Bulovas, Kicker.

[CadaverDawg]

42 for the East, Tucker Day. We haven't offered yet though.

Wish we were after a FG kicker

[msstate7]

Martel is gonna be really good for Ohio st

I wonder if he's too small to hold the ball on the zone read 10-15 times a game. He's certainly elusive

[ShotgunDawg]

Yea I enjoyed seeing that. Although the hat ceremonies are old, played out, and super attention seeking imo.

I find it funny how a Bama hat always makes the table even if the kid can't commit to Bama. It's like a status deal

[HoopsDawg]

Wish we were after a FG kicker

We are, 97 for the East. He is committed to GT, but we feel confident we can flip him. We'll see.

[HoopsDawg]

I find it funny how a Bama hat always makes the table even if the kid can't commit to Bama. It's like a status deal

True, but also Bama does an excellent job of making kids feel like they have a firm offer, right up until they don't. Chauncey Rivers is an example of one who didn't at the last minute, Nigel Knott is an example of one who got a firm offer at the last minute.

[msstate7]

42 for the East, Tucker Day. We haven't offered yet though.

And we have offered 97 for the East, Bulovas, Kicker.

We should absolutely use scholarships on a big time kicker and punter. We'll always be at a disadvantage in overall talent in the sec, so elite special teams could help neutralize that some. Wish Mullen would hire a special teams' cood for open staff spot and go all in on special teams

[ShotgunDawg]

9 Georgia commits & 9 Ohio State commits in the game?

That's a problem IMO & shows that whoever is picking the players for this game isn't spreading a wide enough net & casting non-biased evlautions.

Meanwhile, Kylin Hill & Key aren't in any of these games.

[CadaverDawg]

We are, 97 for the East. He is committed to GT, but we feel confident we can flip him. We'll see.

Awesome

[HoopsDawg]

We should absolutely use scholarships on a big time kicker and punter. We'll always be at a disadvantage in overall talent in the sec, so elite special teams could help neutralize that some. Wish Mullen would hire a special teams' cood for open staff spot and go all in on special teams

Agree.

[HoopsDawg]

9 Georgia commits & 9 Ohio State commits in the game?

That's a problem IMO & shows that whoever is picking the players for this game isn't spreading a wide enough net & casting non-biased evlautions.

Meanwhile, Kylin Hill & Key aren't in any of these games.

Agree on Key and Kylin, but UGA and Ohio State are having ridiculous years. Those 2 along with Bama have seperated themselves from the rest of the country.

[msstate7]

9 Georgia commits & 9 Ohio State commits in the game?

That's a problem IMO & shows that whoever is picking the players for this game isn't spreading a wide enough net & casting non-biased evlautions.

Meanwhile, Kylin Hill & Key aren't in any of these games.

Or maybe Georgia and Ohio state are killing it on the recruiting trail. Ohio state probably gonna end the game with more.

[CadaverDawg]

Agree on Key and Kylin, but UGA and Ohio State are having ridiculous years. Those 2 along with Bama have seperated themselves from the rest of the country.

I had my doubts about Kirby as a head coach, and still do a little, but he clearly is going to bring in the talent to UGA...and that's at least half the battle.

[Bucky Dog]

9 Georgia commits & 9 Ohio State commits in the game?

That's a problem IMO & shows that whoever is picking the players for this game isn't spreading a wide enough net & casting non-biased evlautions.

Meanwhile, Kylin Hill & Key aren't in any of these games.

EE can't play in this game so that explains KT. I'm fine with letting Kylin fly under the radar even more.

[msstate7]

I had my doubts about Kirby as a head coach, and still do a little, but he clearly is going to bring in the talent to UGA...and that's at least half the battle.

Muschamp 2.0 imo... gonna field teams with excellent defense, suspect offense, and recruit with the best of them. Muschamp is outrecruiting Florida at South Carolina

[HoopsDawg]

EE can't play in this game so that explains KT. I'm fine with letting Kylin fly under the radar even more.

Yes, EE's can play in this game. Cam Akers is one example but there are several in this game.

[HoopsDawg]

Muschamp 2.0 imo... gonna field teams with excellent defense, suspect offense, and recruit with the best of them. Muschamp is outrecruiting Florida at South Carolina

Disagree, I think Smart is going to win at UGA.

[Bucky Dog]

Yes, EE's can play in this game. Cam Akers is one example but there are several in this game.

I thought I heard or read otherwise. Oh well. And I wasn't aware that Cam practiced with FSU like KT did. Either way, would rather KT not get hurt.

[CadaverDawg]

Muschamp 2.0 imo... gonna field teams with excellent defense, suspect offense, and recruit with the best of them. Muschamp is outrecruiting Florida at South Carolina

I thought the same when he was hired. He has a little better personality than Boom though, and UGA is definitely more attractive to a good OC than USC, so we'll see. I could def see him being Boom 2.0 though. Georgia fans think he's the next Saban. I work with one and he thinks they hit the damn jackpot, and that National Titles are coming their way. Think he will be disappointed

[msstate7]

Disagree, I think Smart is going to win at UGA.

We'll see. Let's see if smart can make as big a jump as boom did his 2nd year at Florida (11-2, east champs, bcs bowl)

[civildawg]

This game sucks by the way

[ShotgunDawg]

This Henry Ruggs makes a big play in every game I see him.

Wish we had a shot. BUT NOPE

[msstate7]

This Henry Ruggs makes a big play in every game I see him.

Wish we had a shot. BUT NOPE

Yeah, pretty much everyone wishes they had a shot

[HoopsDawg]

This Henry Ruggs makes a big play in every game I see him.

Wish we had a shot. BUT NOPE

We gotta figure out a way to make MSU a "cooler" place to go. Whether it's a matter of firing about 3 guys on the staff and getting better recruiters, upgrading the player experience-Clemson has a damn slide in their new facility, wearing sharper uniforms (some of combo's like the all maroon look like shit) or building a place in Starkville that players like to hang out. Or a combo of it all.

[BankerDog]

We gotta figure out a way to make MSU a "cooler" place to go. Whether it's a matter of firing about 3 guys on the staff and getting better recruiters, upgrading the player experience-Clemson has a damn slide in their new facility, wearing sharper uniforms (some of combo's like the all maroon look like shit) or building a place in Starkville that players like to hang out. Or a combo of it all.

Just keep turning out Pros. And we also need to coordinate with the SA and Frat Houses to have bigger parties and make the recruits have good a time. People aren't doing that. Once you get the students into it, a lot better stuff will happen. But there is only a handful of students who keep up with recruiting and who players are until signing day when the twitter accounts are introducing the players.

[HoopsDawg]

Just keep turning out Pros. And we also need to coordinate with the SA and Frat Houses to have bigger parties and make the recruits have good a time. People aren't doing that. Once you get the students into it, a lot better stuff will happen. But there is only a handful of students who keep up with recruiting and who players are until signing day when the twitter accounts are introducing the players.

Yes, we have to improve the official visit experience. It has to be more than just going over to your hosts apartment.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Just keep turning out Pros. And we also need to coordinate with the SA and Frat Houses to have bigger parties and make the recruits have good a time. People aren't doing that. Once you get the students into it, a lot better stuff will happen. But there is only a handful of students who keep up with recruiting and who players are until signing day when the twitter accounts are introducing the players.

You got a better shot at hitting the Lotto then getting the Frat parties to get FSU, BAMA, Floridia level.

[BankerDog]

You got a better shot at hitting the Lotto then getting the Frat parties to get FSU, BAMA, Floridia level.


Starts at the top with the President. He's a Sigma Chi so he should pull some strings to get some bigger named acts but that's not going to happen at all.

[ShotgunDawg]

Yes, we have to improve the official visit experience. It has to be more than just going over to your hosts apartment.

I'm sure we could enhance the experience, but I wonder if we've given OM credit for those types of things when in fact they were just buying players?

We've become conditioned to the narrative that parties & recruitpalooza was how OM was landing recruits, but how much of that was truth versus them just landing recruits because of money & extra benefits?

Do Bama, LSU, FSU, Georgia, etc have big parties for recruits?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Just keep turning out Pros. And we also need to coordinate with the SA and Frat Houses to have bigger parties and make the recruits have good a time. People aren't doing that. Once you get the students into it, a lot better stuff will happen. But there is only a handful of students who keep up with recruiting and who players are until signing day when the twitter accounts are introducing the players.

We also need a coach or 2 that has some charisma on the recruiting trail. One reason we weren't ever in it with Akers is because we don't have the flash and the it factor he was looking for.

[BankerDog]

We also need a coach or 2 that has some charisma on the recruiting trail. One reason we weren't ever in it with Akers is because we don't have the flash and the it factor he was looking for.

Cam Akers=Malik Dear(if Malik would realize he is a RB, not slot WR)

And we have a recruiter. He's just sitting in the back rooms. Look for him to be on the field soon.

[preachermatt83]

Welp I'm sold on the kicker.

[ShotgunDawg]

Welp I'm sold on the kicker.

Me too. Looks legit.

Starts next year for us. WOW

[CadaverDawg]

Welp I'm sold on the kicker.

Me too. Sign his ass

[ShotgunDawg]

Cam Akers=Malik Dear(if Malik would realize he is a RB, not slot WR)

And we have a recruiter. He's just sitting in the back rooms. Look for him to be on the field soon.

Dear isn't as explosive or fast as Akers. They aren't similar

[msstate7]

Dear isn't as explosive or fast as Akers. They aren't similar

https://youtu.be/Yfq91YLH3i0

Looks explosive to me

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

EE can't play in this game so that explains KT. I'm fine with letting Kylin fly under the radar even more.

Wrong. There are several EE's in this game

[ShotgunDawg]

https://youtu.be/Yfq91YLH3i0

Looks explosive to me

He is explosive. My post said, "Isn't as explosive."

Dear is explosive. No doubt. Just not as explosive as Akers.

[msstate7]

He is explosive. My post said, "Isn't as explosive."

Dear is explosive. No doubt. Just not as explosive as Akers.
I do think Akers is gonna me a much, much better player in college than dear, but who knows? Dear did that vs aTm, while Akers is still in HS. If you just go by what recruiting services tell us, Malik Newman is much, much better than Q.

Oh and dear needs to be told to drop 20 lbs if he wants to stay in the slot

[Maroons]

Welp I'm sold on the kicker.

Bulovas is big-time.

[ShotgunDawg]

Little Vinatieri is gonna leave this game with an LSU offer and screw us all over again.

[Leeshouldveflanked]

Bulovas is big-time.

Big time Kicker......Mullen got OL Coach, Running Game Coordinator,Special Teams Coach, Assistant Head Coach Hevesy on him.

[SailingDawg]

Young man teared up making his commitment to Oregon state. Was truly appreciative of his blessings. Not drama and entitlement. Good deal.

His little brother was wanting the Ohio State hat, hah!

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

His little brother was wanting the Ohio State hat, hah!

That was another commitment where guy picked UCLA but that was funny

[Jarius]

We are wasting Malik Dear in the slot. He needs to be a Brandon Holloway type tailback. I know he doesn't want to be but playing someone like him at receiver is ridiculous.

[RougeDawg]

Man I hope so. I just knew Denico Autry was too...but he never really did much in terms of sacks or QB pressure

You ever think it's just our scheme that never gets a pass rush? No matter our DC, we cannot seem to get a pass rush and then our guys go to the league and all of a sudden develop a pass rush against NFL OLinemen? Doesn't make sense. I'm beginning to accept our defenses under Mullen will have DLine schemes that are more of a contain than an actual pass rush. Just seems to be the recurring theme and it's not like we havent had the the players or pass rushers. Look what they do on Sunday's now. Very frustrating and another limiting factor in MSU football success under Mullen.

[msstate7]

You ever think it's just our scheme that never gets a pass rush? No matter our DC, we cannot seem to get a pass rush and then our guys go to the league and all of a sudden develop a pass rush against NFL OLinemen? Doesn't make sense. I'm beginning to accept our defenses under Mullen will have DLine schemes that are more of a contain than an actual pass rush. Just seems to be the recurring theme and it's not like we havent had the the players or pass rushers. Look what they do on Sunday's now. Very frustrating and another limiting factor in MSU football success under Mullen.

Sec ranks in sacks...
'16 -- 8th tied with auburn
'15 -- 5th tied with tenn
'14 -- 2nd

[Reason2succeed]

Yea I enjoyed seeing that. Although the hat ceremonies are old, played out, and super attention seeking imo.

I'm sure these kids can come up with more creative ways of doing it but the hat ceremony pulls in viewers from several fan bases so I wouldn't be surprised if it was the TV networks that push kids to do them. Having an Alabama and other huge fan bases glued in is a strategy for ratings.

[Bass Chaser]

Sec ranks in sacks...
'16 -- 8th tied with auburn
'15 -- 5th tied with tenn
'14 -- 2nd

How does that rank in the West? What's the rank in hurries as compared to the West?

[msstate7]

How does that rank in the West? What's the rank in hurries as compared to the West?

'16 -- tied with auburn and ark for 4th
'15 -- 4th
'14 -- 1st

Cfbstats.com doesn't list hurries

[Bass Chaser]

Thanks