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ShotgunDawg
12-14-2016, 08:19 PM
Great job today coaches! As much grief as we give you guys on your lack of closing on players, today you go the job done & hopefully that will continue to the Feb signing day as well.
NOW..... Sirmon, listen up:
By my count, we'll have 17 4 & 5 star recruits on the defense next year with 8 4 & 5 star recruits on the DL alone. Enough with the excuses & the 2 star crap. STOP SOMEBODY
Please add to this if I have something incorrect or left someone off
DL:
Simmons: 5*
Spencer: 4*
Kobe Jones: 4*
Sweat: 3*
Pope: 4*
Autry: 4*
Rivers: 4*
Adams: 4*
Thomas: 4*
LB:
Lewis: 4*
Green: 4*
Thompson: 3*
Washington: 4*
Gray: 3*
Jung: 4*
Harris: 3*
CB:
Peters: 4*
Grahma: 4*
Durr: 3*
Dantzler: 3*
Cleveland: 3*
Jiles: 3*
Landrews: 3*
Stamps: 3*
Smitherman: 3*
Safety:
Bryant: 4*
Abrams: 4*
McLaurin: 4*
Cole: 3*
PonderThis1
12-14-2016, 08:24 PM
Hopefully, we can add Willie Gay. Small chance he could play as a freshman.
Also, what site are you using for *s?
ShotgunDawg
12-14-2016, 08:30 PM
Hopefully, we can add Willie Gay. Small chance he could play as a freshman.
Also, what site are you using for *s?
Using 247. Yes Gay would mean 18 4 & 5 star recruits on defense.
All this & Montez Sweat is only listed as a 3 star, yet may be our most important recruit
HoopsDawg
12-14-2016, 08:32 PM
Using 247. Yes Gay would mean 18 4 & 5 star recruits on defense.
All this & Montez Sweat is only listed as a 3 star, yet may be our most important recruit
247 is so bad on the ratings after Paul and Robbie did away with the 2 stars. All 3 stars aren't created equal.
ShotgunDawg
12-14-2016, 08:43 PM
247 is so bad on the ratings after Paul and Robbie did away with the 2 stars. All 3 stars aren't created equal.
Agree. Cole & Sweat are probably 4* talents
missouridawg
12-14-2016, 08:47 PM
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missouridawg
12-14-2016, 08:47 PM
Agree. Cole & Sweat are probably 4* talents
Weren't they both four stars coming out of high school?
ShotgunDawg
12-14-2016, 08:51 PM
Weren't they both four stars coming out of high school?
I know Cole was. Not sure on Sweat
ShotgunDawg
12-14-2016, 08:52 PM
With 8 4 & 5 stars recruits on the DL, one would think we'd be able to compete in the trenches next year & keep blockers off our LBs
msstate7
12-14-2016, 08:54 PM
I know Cole was. Not sure on Sweat
Sweat was a 3* te
msstate7
12-14-2016, 09:05 PM
If Autry plays well at ng, does Simmons have the ability to play de in 3-4 also?
BrunswickDawg
12-14-2016, 09:08 PM
If Autry plays well at ng, does Simmons have the ability to play de in 3-4 also?
Didn't he mostly play DE this year?
msstate7
12-14-2016, 09:10 PM
Didn't he mostly play DE this year?
Thought he was at ng
Coursesuper
12-14-2016, 09:10 PM
Didn't he mostly play DE this year?
No, he spent most of his time over the center.
WSOPdawg
12-14-2016, 09:29 PM
Great job today coaches! As much grief as we give you guys on your lack of closing on players, today you go the job done & hopefully that will continue to the Feb signing day as well.
NOW..... Sirmon, listen up:
By my count, we'll have 17 4 & 5 star recruits on the defense next year with 8 4 & 5 star recruits on the DL alone. Enough with the excuses & the 2 star crap. STOP SOMEBODY
Holy cow, that's awesome!!!
ShotgunDawg
12-14-2016, 09:35 PM
Holy cow, that's awesome!!!
Should be. We'll see if they can line up correctly
msstate7
12-14-2016, 10:35 PM
Simmons, Leo, and major influx of talent at safety should really make us solid up the middle.
CadaverDawg
12-14-2016, 10:58 PM
How much have we improved our speed in the LB's and secondary? We seem slow to me. Could just be due to too much thinking while learning a new scheme though...that can make you a step slow, which in the SEC can make you look like you're standing still
Tripp McNeely
12-14-2016, 11:03 PM
Great job today coaches! As much grief as we give you guys on your lack of closing on players, today you go the job done & hopefully that will continue to the Feb signing day as well.
NOW..... Sirmon, listen up:
By my count, we'll have 17 4 & 5 star recruits on the defense next year with 8 4 & 5 star recruits on the DL alone. Enough with the excuses & the 2 star crap. STOP SOMEBODY
Please add to this if I have something incorrect or left someone off
DL:
Simmons: 5*
Spencer: 4*
Kobe Jones: 4*
Sweat: 3*
Pope: 4*
Autry: 4*
Rivers: 4*
Adams: 4*
Thomas: 4*
LB:
Lewis: 4*
Green: 4*
Thompson: 3*
Washington: 4*
Gray: 3*
Jung: 4*
Harris: 3*
CB:
Peters: 4*
Grahma: 4*
Durr: 3*
Dantzler: 3*
Cleveland: 3*
Jiles: 3*
Landrews: 3*
Stamps: 3*
Smitherman: 3*
Safety:
Bryant: 4*
Abrams: 4*
McLaurin: 4*
Cole: 3*
Cole was a consensus 4* out of hs, and Thompson was a 4* on ESPN
Corn Bread
12-14-2016, 11:04 PM
Great job today coaches! As much grief as we give you guys on your lack of closing on players, today you go the job done & hopefully that will continue to the Feb signing day as well.
NOW..... Sirmon, listen up:
By my count, we'll have 17 4 & 5 star recruits on the defense next year with 8 4 & 5 star recruits on the DL alone. Enough with the excuses & the 2 star crap. STOP SOMEBODY
Please add to this if I have something incorrect or left someone off
DL:
Simmons: 5*
Spencer: 4*
Kobe Jones: 4*
Sweat: 3*
Pope: 4*
Autry: 4*
Rivers: 4*
Adams: 4*
Thomas: 4*
LB:
Lewis: 4*
Green: 4*
Thompson: 3*
Washington: 4*
Gray: 3*
Jung: 4*
Harris: 3*
CB:
Peters: 4*
Grahma: 4*
Durr: 3*
Dantzler: 3*
Cleveland: 3*
Jiles: 3*
Landrews: 3*
Stamps: 3*
Smitherman: 3*
Safety:
Bryant: 4*
Abrams: 4*
McLaurin: 4*
Cole: 3*
Hey Gun, is George Patton in there anywhere. Good Heavens!
Corn Bread
12-14-2016, 11:05 PM
Great job today coaches! As much grief as we give you guys on your lack of closing on players, today you go the job done & hopefully that will continue to the Feb signing day as well.
NOW..... Sirmon, listen up:
By my count, we'll have 17 4 & 5 star recruits on the defense next year with 8 4 & 5 star recruits on the DL alone. Enough with the excuses & the 2 star crap. STOP SOMEBODY
Please add to this if I have something incorrect or left someone off
DL:
Simmons: 5*
Spencer: 4*
Kobe Jones: 4*
Sweat: 3*
Pope: 4*
Autry: 4*
Rivers: 4*
Adams: 4*
Thomas: 4*
LB:
Lewis: 4*
Green: 4*
Thompson: 3*
Washington: 4*
Gray: 3*
Jung: 4*
Harris: 3*
CB:
Peters: 4*
Grahma: 4*
Durr: 3*
Dantzler: 3*
Cleveland: 3*
Jiles: 3*
Landrews: 3*
Stamps: 3*
Smitherman: 3*
Safety:
Bryant: 4*
Abrams: 4*
McLaurin: 4*
Cole: 3*
Hey Gun, is George Patton in there anywhere. Good Brandon Heavens!
IMissJack
12-14-2016, 11:07 PM
Talked to a Michigan guy today, and he said Cole was a 4* out of high school, and heck of an athlete. Just got in doghouse for grades, etc.
msstate7
12-14-2016, 11:13 PM
Anyone know anything about kain daub? He's a juco ILB listed on our targets at 247. He doesn't have a very good offer list, but started his career at fsu and was a 96-rated 4* out of HS. I think ILB is an area of concern for us
tireddawg
12-14-2016, 11:25 PM
How much have we improved our speed in the LB's and secondary? We seem slow to me. Could just be due to too much thinking while learning a new scheme though...that can make you a step slow, which in the SEC can make you look like you're standing still
Cadaver I don't think we're slow at all. Too much thinking is it. Matter of fact I saw several plays where guys were over-thinking & second guessing themselves. They've got to trust Sirmon & let it all out. The scheme will work.
Todd4State
12-14-2016, 11:56 PM
Cadaver I don't think we're slow at all. Too much thinking is it. Matter of fact I saw several plays where guys were over-thinking & second guessing themselves. They've got to trust Sirmon & let it all out. The scheme will work.
I agree with this.
Todd4State
12-14-2016, 11:58 PM
I wonder if the new guys that we added today will allow us to be more multiple on defense. We should have the talent to play a 3 or 4 man front if we want to. I'm not sure if we were really able to do so last year to be honest with you.
Coldsleeve Jr.
12-15-2016, 12:25 AM
Cole was a consensus 4* out of hs, and Thompson was a 4* on ESPN
Thompson being a 3* was a joke. Anyone know how he's been progressing?
justwin
12-15-2016, 12:40 AM
Great job today coaches! As much grief as we give you guys on your lack of closing on players, today you go the job done & hopefully that will continue to the Feb signing day as well.
NOW..... Sirmon, listen up:
By my count, we'll have 17 4 & 5 star recruits on the defense next year with 8 4 & 5 star recruits on the DL alone. Enough with the excuses & the 2 star crap. STOP SOMEBODY
Please add to this if I have something incorrect or left someone off
DL:
Simmons: 5*
Spencer: 4*
Kobe Jones: 4*
Sweat: 3*
Pope: 4*
Autry: 4*
Rivers: 4*
Adams: 4*
Thomas: 4*
LB:
Lewis: 4*
Green: 4*
Thompson: 3*
Washington: 4*
Gray: 3*
Jung: 4*
Harris: 3*
CB:
Peters: 4*
Grahma: 4*
Durr: 3*
Dantzler: 3*
Cleveland: 3*
Jiles: 3*
Landrews: 3*
Stamps: 3*
Smitherman: 3*
Safety:
Bryant: 4*
Abrams: 4*
McLaurin: 4*
Cole: 3*
Any play where at least 4 of those 9 DL aren't on the field is a waste. The SEC is a big mans game and 3 DL is ludicrous.
Todd4State
12-15-2016, 12:54 AM
Thompson being a 3* was a joke. Anyone know how he's been progressing?
I've heard he has looked pretty good in practice and could be a big factor next year. I don't know if he will start or not but I think he will definitely play a lot.
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