An NCAA Investigation unlike any other

[Tailgate Superstar]

This is coming from someone close to the investigation at OM. Definitely second hand info so take it for what it's worth. The NCAA has tried to conclude the investigation of OM on at least 3 previous occasions. However, each time they tried they to close it, they learned of additional violations happening at that time. Basically, they won't stop cheating long enough for their to be some sort of resolution to the case.

Heard there will definitely be a 2nd letter and it will not be pretty. From what I understand, this has never happened before during an investigation where a school will not stop cheating long enough for the investigation to end. I know, low post count and all that. I realize this is something we've probably all thought anyway.

[iPat09]

What if I told you....

[Jack Lambert]

This is coming from someone close to the investigation at OM. Definitely second hand info so take it for what it's worth. The NCAA has tried to conclude the investigation of OM on at least 3 previous occasions. However, each time they tried they to close it, they learned of additional violations happening at that time. Basically, they won't stop cheating long enough for their to be some sort of resolution to the case.

Heard there will definitely be a 2nd letter and it will not be pretty. From what I understand, this has never happened before during an investigation where a school will not stop cheating long enough for the investigation to end. I know, low post count and all that. I realize this is something we've probably all thought anyway.

There is noting like having a baby piss in your face while changing the diaper.

[QuadrupleOption]

This is coming from someone close to the investigation at OM. Definitely second hand info so take it for what it's worth. The NCAA has tried to conclude the investigation of OM on at least 3 previous occasions. However, each time they tried they to close it, they learned of additional violations happening at that time. Basically, they won't stop cheating long enough for their to be some sort of resolution to the case.

Heard there will definitely be a 2nd letter and it will not be pretty. From what I understand, this has never happened before during an investigation where a school will not stop cheating long enough for the investigation to end. I know, low post count and all that. I realize this is something we've probably all thought anyway.

I think at some point LOIC has to be levied against their athletics department. 3 sports on probation, and the way their AD 'handled' the Tunsil loaner vehicle should have gotten a LOIC levied to begin with.

This along with Freeze arranging private meetings between boosters and recruits will the the death knell of their program for the forseeable future. Anything else at this point is icing on the cake.

[ShotgunDawg]

I used to wish the NCAA would go ahead and punish them, but after seeing their 70th ranked recruiting class, Id be fine with this thing stringing out forever. Would destroy the program even longer.

[Dawgbite]

Or a cat fart in your face while it is asleep in your lap.

[TrapGame]

I used to wish the NCAA would go ahead and punish them, but after seeing their 70th ranked recruiting class, Id be fine with this thing stringing out forever. Would destroy the program even longer.

Yep, a long slow torture. A death penalty of a thousand cuts.

[maroonmania]

This is coming from someone close to the investigation at OM. Definitely second hand info so take it for what it's worth. The NCAA has tried to conclude the investigation of OM on at least 3 previous occasions. However, each time they tried they to close it, they learned of additional violations happening at that time. Basically, they won't stop cheating long enough for their to be some sort of resolution to the case.

Heard there will definitely be a 2nd letter and it will not be pretty. From what I understand, this has never happened before during an investigation where a school will not stop cheating long enough for the investigation to end. I know, low post count and all that. I realize this is something we've probably all thought anyway.

This is a good thing. **

[Chip]

This is a good thing. **

I'd have to say, yeah. ***

[Chip]

Heard there will definitely be a 2nd letter and it will not be pretty. From what I understand, this has never happened before during an investigation where a school will not stop cheating long enough for the investigation to end. I know, low post count and all that. I realize this is something we've probably all thought anyway.

This may be true, as the SMU investigation technically ended and they went on probation, only to continue cheating and get the death penalty. Ole Miss on the other hand, apparently just keeps right on cheating through the entire investigation. I look forward to seeing just how bad the 2nd/amended NOA is.

[Jack Lambert]

This may be true, as the SMU investigation technically ended and they went on probation, only to continue cheating and get the death penalty. Ole Miss on the other hand, apparently just keeps right on cheating through the entire investigation. I look forward to seeing just how bad the 2nd/amended NOA is.

This is what happens when you have a zealous fan base trying to out do each other. Too many pieces to control. It's like a ponzi scheme. Sooner or later it get too big and you get caught. They just couldn't reel in all the fish. Too many fishing poles.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is what happens when you have a zealous fan base trying to out do each other. Too many pieces to control. It's like a ponzi scheme. Sooner or later it get too big and you get caught. They just couldn't reel in all the fish. Too many fishing poles.

It wasn't just the fanbase. This stuff was organized at a very high level. It wasn't a bunch of individual fans acting on their own.

[Jack Lambert]

It wasn't just the fanbase. This stuff was organized at a very high level. It wasn't a bunch of individual fans acting on their own.

I understand that but once the investigation started I think the high level folks pulled back. Like I said it got too big and going too fast they could not stop the bolder from continuing rolling down the hill.

[ShotgunDawg]

This is what happens when you have a zealous fan base trying to out do each other. Too many pieces to control. It's like a ponzi scheme. Sooner or later it get too big and you get caught. They just couldn't reel in all the fish. Too many fishing poles.

This is also what happens when the administration lies to the fan base.

99% of the fan base doesn't realize how bad things are. So why would they quit?

They would've been much better off if the administration told them, "things are bad. Cut it the 17 out"

Instead, they think it's business as usual.

[spudd21]

Something I've thought about. What if the sheavior wasn't really being redshirted, but he was serving a suspension similar to the one tunsil served? Has anyone else considered this? Would make a lot of sense as to why he never saw the field.

[InTheIttaBenaHotSun]

When they said "Exemplary Cooperation" they meant with their recruits NOT the NCAA...give dem boys a break, they just heppin people out.

[Liverpooldawg]

I understand that but once the investigation started I think the high level folks pulled back. Like I said it got too big and going too fast they could not stop the bolder from continuing rolling down the hill.
I don't think they did actually. If anything they doubled down.

[BrunswickDawg]

I don't think they did actually. If anything they doubled down.

Yeah, their legal bill backs that up. You don't waste $1.2m dodging the NCAA if you aren't "all in".

[Johnson85]

I don't think they did actually. If anything they doubled down.

I'm not sure how much of it was within their control. They either decided they were screwed either way, so no reason to stop, or they put the word out to stop, and they found out that they didn't really control the situation.

[lamont]

They never believed they would get caught. They are smarter than everybody else- just ask them

[Political Hack]

What your friend knows is likely what I was referring to a week or so back when I said I had heard they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar... AGAIN!

It was finally over... Tunsil.
That was finally over again... 2017 class immunity offers.
"Favra, your suspension continues."

[Really Clark?]

They never believed they would get caught. They are smarter than everybody else- just ask them

That coupled with them thinking that the NCAA wouldn't do anything and the SEC will protect any school because of the Cam deal, emboldened their delusions of grandeur

[Bubb Rubb]

That coupled with them thinking that the NCAA wouldn't do anything and the SEC will protect any school because of the Cam deal, emboldened their delusions of grandeur

They might have been right if Slive were still around.

The telling thing for me is when they retained Slive to help with the investigation and shortly after he decided to back away from it. That one small but overlooked detail tells you how screwed they are.

[BulldogDX55]

During this past June, I was helping to open up a new store in Oxford for a month.

An obvious football player rolls up in a brand new black mustang, with a front plate from, you guessed it, Cannon Motors.

A coworker said, "Nice car! Can I drive it?"

A scared look went across the players face and he replied, quickly and with a slight stutter, "No! They said only I can drive it!"

They haven't even stopped using Cannon. It's like they want to get caught.

[RougeDawg]

They've been caught with current recruits this year. For some reason even I didn't think they could be this stupid, but they continue to push the boundaries of delusion and stupidity, all the while surprising me daily.

[gtowndawg]

Ole Miss = Anthony Hopkins in the movie Fracture.

[ShotgunDawg]

During this past June, I was helping to open up a new store in Oxford for a month.

An obvious football player rolls up in a brand new black mustang, with a front plate from, you guessed it, Cannon Motors.

A coworker said, "Nice car! Can I drive it?"

A scared look went across the players face and he replied, quickly and with a slight stutter, "No! They said only I can drive it!"

They haven't even stopped using Cannon. It's like they want to get caught.

I mean, surely the NCAA investigators went into the OM player parking lot to see what players were driving.

NCAA athletes have to fill out a form about what car they drive & who the owner is. It wouldn't be difficult for the NCAA to figure this out

[Gutter Cobreh]

They never believed they would get caught. They are smarter than everybody else- just ask them

Definitely true. The problem with their logic and plan is that they were chasing recruiting stars thinking that would lead them to the promise land. The problem is even with highly ranked recruiting classes, you still have to mold and develop. Their plan falters here because there is no development. As smart as they are, they missed the fact that they need a better coach than Freeze. Would a great coach go "all in" on their plan like Freeze? I doubt it, so their plan is flawed and was bound to unravel.

They did win some recruiting battles and got some good press, so hope it was worth it. Image is everything!

[Jack Lambert]

I'd have to say, yeah. ***

What would make it even more cool is if when they are finish investigating they would have found Jimmy Hoffa's body.

[starkvegasdawg]

Here is what I want. About three weeks before the season starts I want the NCAA to hand down their ruling and show cause the entire athletic department and disassociate every big name booster they have - including Archie. Maybe leave one GA to run things. Then, after they find a replacement AD, have him scramble to find some retread coach that they have to talk out of selling whitewalls at Bob's Discount Tire and Bait Shop to take over the team.

[ShotgunDawg]

I love to hear Devious or Random give us an update on the expected penalties

[GreenheadDawg]

I love to hear Devious or Random give us an update on the expected penalties

I 2nd this.

[Liverpooldawg]

Ole Miss = Anthony Hopkins in the movie Fracture.

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

[Political Hack]

It was between 32 over 3 and 40 over 4 before they got into this year's recruiting class. I don't think anything new has been discussed. If it has, it hasn't leaked out.

[TrapGame]

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

Or John Turturro in Miller's Crossing.

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[Thick]

It was between 32 over 3 and 40 over 4 before they got into this year's recruiting class. I don't think anything new has been discussed. If it has, it hasn't leaked out.

Some more new stuff really is coming, and it's worse then NOA 1. Dead serious!!

[ShotgunDawg]

Some more new stuff really is coming, and it's worse then NOA 1. Dead serious!!

> or < 8 Level ones?

What are you hearing?

[Jack Lambert]

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

Yeah he was a ass hole dick head in those two movies. In fact has he ever played a roll where he wasn't at lest a dick head?

[Really Clark?]

> or < 8 Level ones?

What are you hearing?

I don't know that it's the number that will be worse but the actual violations are worse and LOIC being one of those violations.

[Coursesuper]

> or < 8 Level ones?

What are you hearing?

I'm hearing that it's going to be a bend over and say Aaahh, situation.

[blacklistedbully]

I'd have to say, yeah. ***

Never gets old.

[blacklistedbully]

This is a good thing. **

Also never gets old.

[blacklistedbully]

This is also what happens when the administration lies to the fan base.

99% of the fan base doesn't realize how bad things are. So why would they quit?

They would've been much better off if the administration told them, "things are bad. Cut it the 17 out"

Instead, they think it's business as usual.

Good post.

[archdog]

Something I've thought about. What if the sheavior wasn't really being redshirted, but he was serving a suspension similar to the one tunsil served? Has anyone else considered this? Would make a lot of sense as to why he never saw the field.

He didn't play because Kelly was better. Soon as Kelly was out, he came in. Too much of a coincidence if it was a suspension. Now he may have been suspended, but Freeze needing a QB, decided to lift it. Who knows.

[lamont]

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

[trob115]

mistakes were made.

[starkvegasdawg]

mistakes were made.

I fear for their soul.

[gtowndawg]

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

The common thread = people that aren't near as smart or clever as they think.

[MadDawg]

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

That's what I'm hearing too. Nobody really knows what the final punishment will be because this investigation and what they are uncovering is unprecedented.

[EngDawg]

Joe Pesci in Goodfellas or Casino

Would love to be a fly on the wall when Bjork and Freeze walk into the empty room.

[Sacrifice]

I love it! Worldcom type shit.
Just keeps snowballing on them

[Political Hack]

That's what I'm hearing too. Nobody really knows what the final punishment will be because this investigation and what they are uncovering is unprecedented.

It's still concluding too. The investigation is conducted separately from the punishment, which means the committee responsible for levying the punishment hasn't had a chance to make decisions yet. For example, hypothetically, if the NCAA is in Oxford right now interviewing ole miss staff this week and expect it to continue into next week, they might catch them in a lie or have them come clean about past lies. A lot can still happen at this point, but whatever happens it's not good for the rebels. The largest NCAA investigation ever has potentially uncovered the most aggregious violations in the history of collegiate sports spanning across 3 sports and four coaching staffs.

[Coursesuper]

I know for sure that their plan was to sell out on the 16 class and try to ride out the sanctions they knew they has coming. They were convinced they had enough talent to ride out whatever the NCAA handed out, they were so arrogant that they continued to operate as usual.

[DancingRabbit]

Yeah he was a ass hole dick head in those two movies. In fact has he ever played a roll where he wasn't at lest a dick head?

Pesci was totally different in comedies like Lethal Weapon 2 or My Cousin Vinny (great movie).

[Coursesuper]

Pesci was totally different in comedies like Lethal Weapon 2 or My Cousin Vinny (great movie).

I played golf with that guy at a Sherwood CC in Thousand Oaks Ca, they were supposed to have a member outing with Bel-Aire that morning but it " rained". We went out in the sprinkle and played and he went with us, great cigars, terrible player.

[Liverpooldawg]

The common thread = people that aren't near as smart or clever as they think.

Yep, and what the other guy above said too.

[Dawgowar]

Today , the NCAA COI dropped the hammer on Cal State University Northridge for Academic Misconduct, not fraud - the AD official involved with illegal help to 10 students got 5 yrs show cause....this was the line in the findings that made me think about UNM and their boosters' standing with the NCAA investigators about now:

"The former director of basketball operations denied completing coursework or providing impermissible academic benefits to student-athletes; however, the panel did not find him to be credible."

After Tunsil and everything we believe to have been unearthed since then, the lies, the continued operation of the network - just how credible is the Bear Administration, Boosters, AD, Coaches, etc in the eyes of the NCAA?

[Negative Waves]

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

[Political Hack]

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

If they only get 24 over 2 for this, it's open season in the Wild Wild West.

[ShotgunDawg]

If they only get 24 over 2 for this, it's open season in the Wild Wild West.

This

The NCAA would also have issues with it's level chart & punishments. Giving Ole Miss 24 over 2 would set a terrible precedent.
With that punishment, could you get docked 12 over 2 for 4 level ones? If so, that makes cheating worth it

[Reason2succeed]

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

I smell something

[WSOPdawg]

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

Out-17n-standing, RP. I definitely agree that the NCAA has not encountered a case of this magnitude just because they can't reach the end without the finish line moving due to the continued cheating. TCUN is 17'd!!!

[WSOPdawg]

It's still concluding too. The investigation is conducted separately from the punishment, which means the committee responsible for levying the punishment hasn't had a chance to make decisions yet. For example, hypothetically, if the NCAA is in Oxford right now interviewing ole miss staff this week and expect it to continue into next week, they might catch them in a lie or have them come clean about past lies. A lot can still happen at this point, but whatever happens it's not good for the rebels. The largest NCAA investigation ever has potentially uncovered the most aggregious violations in the history of collegiate sports spanning across 3 sports and four coaching staffs.

This will be SMU 2.0 and I'm not sure TCUN's place in the SEC will survive. Gonna be interesting.

[Really Clark?]

Did anybody else read the title and hear it in Jim Nantz's voice with the Masters commercial jingle in the background? Seriously though, I predict show causes for Freeze and most of the staff, 24 scholarships over two years, and a two year bowl ban. It'll be the least harshest punishment for an aggravated Level 1. Bears will scream bloody murder while us State fans will say it's not enough. I personally hope for 40/4 or more, but I doubt it'll happen. If they did get 24 over two, it'll at least set them back 4-5 years with their current class being in the tank.

Those sanctions, while incomplete like it also carries a min 6 year probation, is for ONE Level 1 aggrevaited at a min. One. They have 8 Level 1's in total.

[Negative Waves]

They're probably going to end up with around 15-20 Level 1's plus multiple Level 2 and 3's. if they're all aggravated (which they probably won't be) and they stacked them, they'd be on probation for at least 30 years! While I'd love to see that, my gut tells me the NCAA primarily wants Freeze's head on a platter. When the bears got hit with (correct me if I'm wrong) 24/2, 2 years probation, and a tv ban in 94, it was some of the harshest penalties they handed out since SMU. 24/2 wouldn't hurt Bama all that much, but with UM, along with this years unofficial probation wrecking their class, it would seriously set them back several years in addition to finding a new coaching staff to come to that dumpster fire. They'd have to pull off a 1997 Jackie Sherrill type class two years in a row which ain't happening.

If the NCAA goes Negan on UM, I'd expect a 3 year bowl ban and 36 over 3. I highly doubt we'll see another death penalty or 48/4. They would might as well turn the Vaught into a marijuana research field.

Reason, I've got degrees from our fine University. I spent a lot of time in Walker and McCain listening to Truax talk about biological oxygen demand, Cole joke about "beer and cookies" before handing out one of his nearly impossible Steel tests, and hearing Dr. Sinno telling the Concrete class that, "Steel does not fail, it yields!" for the umpteenth hundred time. I still have my 1996 Final Four hat and wear it occasionally even though the strap on the back is glued after breaking.

[notsofarawaydawg]

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[anubus]

Hope its 30 schollys a 3 year bowl ban and exile from the SEC. Coming to the sunbelt the land shark/shit bird attack!!!!!

[WSOPdawg]

They're probably going to end up with around 15-20 Level 1's plus multiple Level 2 and 3's. if they're all aggravated (which they probably won't be) and they stacked them, they'd be on probation for at least 30 years! While I'd love to see that, my gut tells me the NCAA primarily wants Freeze's head on a platter. When the bears got hit with (correct me if I'm wrong) 24/2, 2 years probation, and a tv ban in 94, it was some of the harshest penalties they handed out since SMU. 24/2 wouldn't hurt Bama all that much, but with UM, along with this years unofficial probation wrecking their class, it would seriously set them back several years in addition to finding a new coaching staff to come to that dumpster fire. They'd have to pull off a 1997 Jackie Sherrill type class two years in a row which ain't happening.

If the NCAA goes Negan on UM, I'd expect a 3 year bowl ban and 36 over 3. I highly doubt we'll see another death penalty or 48/4. They would might as well turn the Vaught into a marijuana research field.

Reason, I've got degrees from our fine University. I spent a lot of time in Walker and McCain listening to Truax talk about biological oxygen demand, Cole joke about "beer and cookies" before handing out one of his nearly impossible Steel tests, and hearing Dr. Sinno telling the Concrete class that, "Steel does not fail, it yields!" for the umpteenth hundred time. I still have my 1996 Final Four hat and wear it occasionally even though the strap on the back is glued after breaking.

Don't know why but I just like this... "going Negan."

[Uncivilengineer]

Why you wanna give me flash backs and heart palpations this early in morning?

[WSOPdawg]

Why you wanna give me flash backs and heart palpations this early in morning?

lol, sorry man. That was some of the most intense drama I've seen on tv in a while. But we've got some intense BS coming out of Oxpatch that the only way to clean it up, as Negative Waves said, is to "go Negan" on their sorry asses.

[TrapGame]

Devious probably knows more than I do. My guy had told me 30 or schollys lost earlier this year. Last time I asked him if he still thought 30 or so- he said "worse"....I asked how much worse, his reply "hard to say because the NCAA is not sure what to do its so bad. They are ****ed"

There just comes a point when the NCAA just has to say 17 it and just nuke their asses for the good of college football and humanity overall.

[Homedawg]

This

The NCAA would also have issues with it's level chart & punishments. Giving Ole Miss 24 over 2 would set a terrible precedent.
With that punishment, could you get docked 12 over 2 for 4 level ones? If so, that makes cheating worth it

I don't think it's possible to follow the chart, if you will. If they do its would be basically losing every scholarship when they get done. I think there are going to be 13-15 more allegations in the amended Noa, what if those are level ones I don't know.
Eta remember that's 13-15 allegations, not instances of infractions. That number will total well over 100 including the first letter.

[msstate7]

I don't think it's possible to follow the chart, if you will. If they do its would be basically losing every scholarship when they get done. I think there are going to be 13-15 more allegations in the amended Noa, what if those are level ones I don't know.
Eta remember that's 13-15 allegations, not instances of infractions. That number will total well over 100 including the first letter.

If even 1 (and you know it will be) is a level 1, how can the NCAA let freeze continue to coach OM? I just can't see him surviving

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

If even 1 (and you know it will be) is a level 1, how can the NCAA let freeze continue to coach OM? I just can't see him surviving

It's time for him to clean out the office

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[Homedawg]

If even 1 (and you know it will be) is a level 1, how can the NCAA let freeze continue to coach OM? I just can't see him surviving

There will be more than one level one in the next set for sure. How many exactly? Don't know

[msstate7]

It's time for him to clean out the office

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Love that gif.

[BeardoMSU]

It's time for him to clean out the office

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This is really the best OM related .gif ever. Seriously.

[Liverpooldawg]

when you read this.

http://olemiss.247sports.com/Board/59412/Contents/Question-abt-B-Farrar-and-the-tape-49658963

[TrapGame]

It's VIP access only. Can't read a thing.

Give us the Cliff Notes.

[ShotgunDawg]

Ole Miss fans right now

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[Liverpooldawg]

It's VIP access only. Can't read a thing.

Give us the Cliff Notes.

Short version, Barney was fired because he wasn't forthcoming with the NCAA about the tapes he had on Leo Lewis. Real bizzaro stuff.

[Mjoelner34]

Short version, Barney was fired because he wasn't forthcoming with the NCAA about the tapes he had on Leo Lewis. Real bizzaro stuff.

So Barney was fired to save MSU?
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[War Machine Dawg]

There just comes a point when the NCAA just has to say 17 it and just nuke their asses for the good of college football and humanity overall.

I like what you did there.
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[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

We need a statue of Barney then for not turning us in. *******