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ShotgunDawg
12-05-2016, 03:24 PM
Rosey say today that the NCAA interviewed NE Jackson Rebels last week.

It keep going folks. The NCAA isn't slowing down and will gut the program.

Rosey also adds that older Rebels are upset with young Rebels for being entirely too aggressive and potentially doing extreme long term damage to the program.

TrapGame
12-05-2016, 03:33 PM
Doesn't there come a point when the NCAA sees that OM is a seething pot of corruption from top to bottom and just impose the death penalty to let the collegiate world understand this sort of institutionalized shit is not acceptable whatsoever?

ShotgunDawg
12-05-2016, 03:37 PM
Doesn't there come a point when the NCAA sees that OM is a seething pot of corruption from top to bottom and just impose the death penalty to let the collegiate world understand this sort of institutionalized shit is not acceptable whatsoever?

Yes and something close to that will probably happen next April. However, the NCAA realizes that the only way to truly stop this is too make sure that all the proper people are disassociated. If they don't, good chance it starts up again once probation ends.

Rooting out all the "heppers " takes time.

Liverpooldawg
12-05-2016, 03:41 PM
Yes and something close to that will probably happen next April. However, the NCAA realizes that the only way to truly stop this is too make sure that all the proper people are disassociated. If they don't, good chance it starts up again once probation ends.

Rooting out all the "heppers " takes time.

As long as they have a program they won't stop.

AlSwearengen
12-05-2016, 03:41 PM
Yes and something close to that will probably happen next April. However, the NCAA realizes that the only way to truly stop this is too make sure that all the proper people are disassociated. If they don't, good chance it starts up again once probation ends.

Rooting out all the "heppers " takes time.


By disassociated, do you mean killed? That is the only way you could slow down most of the die-hard network members (and that is from any school). That disassociated shit is just that. I don't understand why they even bother with it.

Political Hack
12-05-2016, 03:53 PM
By disassociated, do you mean killed? That is the only way you could slow down most of the die-hard network members (and that is from any school). That disassociated shit is just that. I don't understand why they even bother with it.

Me either.

Thick
12-05-2016, 03:56 PM
Hahaha....Hack!

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-05-2016, 03:57 PM
Lil ole innocent Freeze is the main one that needs cutting out. The other two coaches who formerly held the same title at OM both got in trouble, the next in line, Hugh Freeze.

thf24
12-05-2016, 04:06 PM
The only way dissociation of boosters should be accepted by the NCAA as meaningful punishment is if said booster is never seen associated with the school in the public eye again, or for whatever time period is mandated on the front end if applicable (sorry Hack). Sure you can't stop further association behind the scenes, but when you say you're taking steps to fix grievances by dissociating a booster only for him to show up just a few years later in TV interviews and pictures with the athletic director, you're showing obvious contempt and disregard for the system.

fishwater99
12-05-2016, 04:52 PM
I wonder if it was some of the Bears from the Friday River Hills Lunch group..

parabrave
12-05-2016, 05:11 PM
Rosey say today that the NCAA interviewed NE Jackson Rebels last week.

It keep going folks. The NCAA isn't slowing down and will gut the program.

Rosey also adds that older Rebels are upset with young Rebels for being entirely too aggressive and potentially doing extreme long term damage to the program.
For us not familiar with the capital scene who or what are/is NE Jackson?

Jack Lambert
12-05-2016, 05:12 PM
For us not familiar with the capital scene who or what are/is NE Jackson?

High Rent District of Jackson called Madison.

defiantdog
12-05-2016, 05:28 PM
Rosey say today that the NCAA interviewed NE Jackson Rebels last week.

It keep going folks. The NCAA isn't slowing down and will gut the program.

Rosey also adds that older Rebels are upset with young Rebels for being entirely too aggressive and potentially doing extreme long term damage to the program.
Not exactly true..... the NE Rebels won't talk so it doesn't matter. There's a certain law firm making a ton of money on this investigation though.

Todd4State
12-05-2016, 05:30 PM
For us not familiar with the capital scene who or what are/is NE Jackson?

Eastover old Jackson money Old Canton Rd. area. Prep and JA people if that helps.

Not Madison. Madison is more new money.

defiantdog
12-05-2016, 05:34 PM
Eastover old Jackson money Old Canton Rd. area. Prep and JA people if that helps.

Not Madison. Madison is more new money.
The NCAA may have gone to a certain D1 sports facility

Todd4State
12-05-2016, 05:38 PM
The NCAA may have gone to a certain D1 sports facility

Oh. Well THAT is in Madison. But I never considered Northeast Jackson to be Madison.

fishwater99
12-05-2016, 05:46 PM
High Rent District of Jackson called Madison.

Nope, Think Eastover.. $$$$$

Todd4State
12-05-2016, 05:53 PM
Nope, Think Eastover.. $$$$$

There is a misconception that most of the money in Jackson is in Madison but the reality is Eastover would blow Madison away in terms of wealth. A lot of Ole Miss people there- probably more than any of the suburbs per capita compared to MSU fans. And to be honest most of the Ole Miss fans from that part of town that I have encountered are more down to Earth than your typical Ole Miss fan. That's why it doesn't surprise me to hear that they want some of the things to slow down. It also wouldn't surprise me if their Network runs through there either directly or indirectly though.

BeastMan
12-05-2016, 06:09 PM
Todd is right. Old Money in NE Jackson. Most live in the CC of Jackson or the Eastover (leftover lol). Those circles are big-time Ole Miss fan dominated. Of the professionals in their 30s, the vast majority live in Madison, G'stadt, Brandon, & Rez but there a few that enjoy the status of being old Jackson money.

Having lived in Jackson at 1 point, I cannot fathom having money and chosing to live there unless I was choosing to stay. Crappy roads, power always goes out, boil water notices multiple times a year, high property tax, high property crime, I could go on forever. I bought my current truck 3 years ago and my tag was $1k. I moved to a metro county that has a property tax base and my tag went to 400 in year 2

benbow
12-05-2016, 06:11 PM
At least three highly successful attorneys -- one who advertises at our athletic events-- vowed years ago to deliver all of the athletes from Calaway, Madison Central, etc. to Ole Miss. They have made good on that until recently. They give big money to the University also and have been adament, so the word is, that Ole Miss not throw them under the bus during the investigation process. Could be interesting particularly if the NCAA has the goods and the attorneys are not forthcoming.

Spiderman
12-05-2016, 06:38 PM
Rosey say today that the NCAA interviewed NE Jackson Rebels last week.

It keep going folks. The NCAA isn't slowing down and will gut the program.

Rosey also adds that older Rebels are upset with young Rebels for being entirely too aggressive and potentially doing extreme long term damage to the program.

Ha, "young" Rebels just following the "old" Rebels blueprint

JoseBrown
12-05-2016, 07:59 PM
There is a misconception that most of the money in Jackson is in Madison but the reality is Eastover would blow Madison away in terms of wealth. A lot of Ole Miss people there- probably more than any of the suburbs per capita compared to MSU fans. And to be honest most of the Ole Miss fans from that part of town that I have encountered are more down to Earth than your typical Ole Miss fan. That's why it doesn't surprise me to hear that they want some of the things to slow down. It also wouldn't surprise me if their Network runs through there either directly or indirectly though.

My former best friend(passed away) was one of them, but he used to come Starkville with me for games. He contributed to the tailgate, did everything you'd expect from a Bulldog except wear maroon n white. Whichever team was better is where he went on the weekends, but other than that his associations were all UM.

Drugs Delaney
12-05-2016, 08:16 PM
"Rosey also adds that older Rebels are upset with young Rebels for being entirely too aggressive and potentially doing extreme long term damage to the program."

The Lee Co cheaters are afraid and know they have gone to far

IMissJack
12-05-2016, 10:13 PM
Todd is right. Old Money in NE Jackson. Most live in the CC of Jackson or the Eastover (leftover lol). Those circles are big-time Ole Miss fan dominated. Of the professionals in their 30s, the vast majority live in Madison, G'stadt, Brandon, & Rez but there a few that enjoy the status of being old Jackson money.

Having lived in Jackson at 1 point, I cannot fathom having money and chosing to live there unless I was choosing to stay. Crappy roads, power always goes out, boil water notices multiple times a year, high property tax, high property crime, I could go on forever. I bought my current truck 3 years ago and my tag was $1k. I moved to a metro county that has a property tax base and my tag went to 400 in year 2

My Tag in TX was $76 this year. On the other hand, my property taxes are about $7K. But no income tax.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
12-05-2016, 10:18 PM
The NCAA may have gone to a certain D1 sports facility

You mean the one that former dawg Antonio Johnson is partly responsible for it being there?

Political Hack
12-05-2016, 10:33 PM
Steve can't be right. Rebel fans are spouting off quoting anonymous Twitter accounts as their source that the NCAA has accepted Ole Miss's self imposed penalties.

They are really, really grasping for anything to clinch on to right now.

GreenheadDawg
12-05-2016, 10:37 PM
My Tag in TX was $76 this year. On the other hand, my property taxes are about $7K. But no income tax.

I feel your pain brother. $8400 in property tax. They get their money one way or the other

GreenheadDawg
12-05-2016, 10:38 PM
Steve can't be right. Rebel fans are spouting off quoting anonymous Twitter accounts as their source that the NCAA has accepted Ole Miss's self imposed penalties.

They are really, really grasping for anything to clinch on to right now.

The sad this is part of me actually believes it also. Surely their luck is gonna run out

DancingRabbit
12-05-2016, 10:54 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy9fS1UUQAAEa_L.jpg


ETA, credit @OldMissBears twitter. I'll steal anything on the interwebs for a laugh.

Mjoelner34
12-05-2016, 10:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy9fS1UUQAAEa_L.jpg

Outstanding!

dawgday166
12-05-2016, 10:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy9fS1UUQAAEa_L.jpg

That is a good one!!!

BossDawg
12-06-2016, 12:40 AM
Steve can't be right. Rebel fans are spouting off quoting anonymous Twitter accounts as their source that the NCAA has accepted Ole Miss's self imposed penalties.

They are really, really grasping for anything to clinch on to right now.

Yup, they are throwing anything and everything at the wall trying to salvage this recruiting season. Never underestimate the recruiting desperation of those associated with UM.

msstate7
12-06-2016, 07:46 AM
With this rumor making the rounds, it's time for the NCAA to leak some info to dan wolken.

starkvegasdawg
12-06-2016, 07:50 AM
Steve can't be right. Rebel fans are spouting off quoting anonymous Twitter accounts as their source that the NCAA has accepted Ole Miss's self imposed penalties.

They are really, really grasping for anything to clinch on to right now.

Surely they realize if the NCAA was willing to accept that as payment in full they would have already shut things down and called it good? Oh wait, I forgot. They just love the grove and beautiful campus so much they hung around another year and counting just to enjoy the atmosphere that is ole miss, by damn.

HereComesTheSpiral
12-06-2016, 09:02 AM
At least three highly successful attorneys -- one who advertises at our athletic events-- vowed years ago to deliver all of the athletes from Calaway, Madison Central, etc. to Ole Miss. They have made good on that until recently. They give big money to the University also and have been adament, so the word is, that Ole Miss not throw them under the bus during the investigation process. Could be interesting particularly if the NCAA has the goods and the attorneys are not forthcoming.

You can just say Richard Schwartz.

Csdog
12-06-2016, 09:11 AM
It is ridiculous that we let Schwartz advertise on our Jumbotron. JC,if you read this,please stop

jumbo
12-06-2016, 09:13 AM
Steve can't be right. Rebel fans are spouting off quoting anonymous Twitter accounts as their source that the NCAA has accepted Ole Miss's self imposed penalties.

They are really, really grasping for anything to clinch on to right now.



It's amazing that they are taking that (I'm pretty sure it's fake) Rebel Rise twitter account as gospel because it tweeted something favorable for OM.

WSOPdawg
12-06-2016, 09:18 AM
Doesn't there come a point when the NCAA sees that OM is a seething pot of corruption from top to bottom and just impose the death penalty to let the collegiate world understand this sort of institutionalized shit is not acceptable whatsoever?

Agree Trap, it's hard to get to the end when the finish line keeps moving with EACH recruiting cycle.

These guys have manipulated the ncaa to the max (since what, 2010???) and one has to wonder WHEN the ncaa will say "enough already" and hammer them for what transgressions they currently have them on, and follow up with a 2nd NOA (or is it NOA #3 now?).

starkvegasdawg
12-06-2016, 09:32 AM
Agree Trap, it's hard to get to the end when the finish line keeps moving with EACH recruiting cycle.

These guys have manipulated the ncaa to the max (since what, 2010???) and one has to wonder WHEN the ncaa will say "enough already" and hammer them for what transgressions they currently have them on, and follow up with a 2nd NOA (or is it NOA #3 now?).

Word is the NCAA has had to invest in office supplies just to keep up with printing TSUN violations. Here is their purchase.

http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/encyclopedia_images/_OCE.GIF

TrapGame
12-06-2016, 09:44 AM
Agree Trap, it's hard to get to the end when the finish line keeps moving with EACH recruiting cycle.

These guys have manipulated the ncaa to the max (since what, 2010???) and one has to wonder WHEN the ncaa will say "enough already" and hammer them for what transgressions they currently have them on, and follow up with a 2nd NOA (or is it NOA #3 now?).

As soon as the NCAA had rock solid evidence that multiple boosters were working hand in hand with the AD's office to provide players with extravagant benefits (cars, cash, jobs for family members, etc.) the fiery hammer of flaming death just have come down. This is isn't some lone wolf John Doe giving a hundred dollar handshake to a recruit out tailgating. This is a coordinated effort between the AD's office and at least a dozen boosters. This is a production on the level of the movie The Truman Show. It's just that the recruits have Jim Carrey's part. The entire city of Oxford is used as a set to make these recruits think the world revolves around them and ole miss.

thf24
12-06-2016, 09:47 AM
It's amazing that they are taking that (I'm pretty sure it's fake) Rebel Rise twitter account as gospel because it tweeted something favorable for OM.

When you've been led to believe that you're God's chosen football program, it follows that the positive news must be the truth at any given time.

Seriously, it's crazy the level of delusion they've reached, and I'm not just talking about Freeze's preacher act. National powerhouse, Harvard of the south, beautiful campus, ect., all based on next to nothing. It's the ultimate wannabe complex, and they've pretended so hard that at this point they've convinced themselves it's reality. Kind of sad to be honest.

Liverpooldawg
12-06-2016, 10:01 AM
As soon as the NCAA had rock solid evidence that multiple boosters were working hand in hand with the AD's office to provide players with extravagant benefits (cars, cash, jobs for family members, etc.) the fiery hammer of flaming death just have come down. This is isn't some lone wolf John Doe giving a hundred dollar handshake to a recruit out tailgating. This is a coordinated effort between the AD's office and at least a dozen boosters. This is a production on the level of the movie The Truman Show. It's just that the recruits have Jim Carrey's part. The entire city of Oxford is used as a set to make these recruits think the world revolves around them and ole miss.

More like the movies "Casino" or Goodfellas". It's going to be interesting to see how the final scenes play out. I wonder if Freeze is Joe Pesci?

WSOPdawg
12-06-2016, 10:02 AM
As soon as the NCAA had rock solid evidence that multiple boosters were working hand in hand with the AD's office to provide players with extravagant benefits (cars, cash, jobs for family members, etc.) the fiery hammer of flaming death just have come down. This is isn't some lone wolf John Doe giving a hundred dollar handshake to a recruit out tailgating. This is a coordinated effort between the AD's office and at least a dozen boosters. This is a production on the level of the movie The Truman Show. It's just that the recruits have Jim Carrey's part. The entire city of Oxford is used as a set to make these recruits think the world revolves around them and ole miss.

And by coordinating, we have a conspiracy to INTENTIONALLY defraud the ncaa and violate their rules, which should warrant LOIC and given the duration and longevity of this "conspiracy," SMU 2.0 here we come!!!

WSOPdawg
12-06-2016, 10:03 AM
More like the movies "Casino" or Goodfellas". It's going to be interesting to see how the final scenes play out. I wonder if Freeze is Joe Pesci?

Oooooh, I like that... (when he gets taken out into the proverbial "ncaa" desert at midnight).

TrapGame
12-06-2016, 10:04 AM
More like the movies "Casino" or Goodfellas". It's going to be interesting to see how the final scenes play out. I wonder if Freeze is Joe Pesci?


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-arJx48jCZBg/VfrNNgJpD5I/AAAAAAAC0_g/8ZS2jUOscsA/s1600/goodfellas%2B4.gif

Johnson85
12-06-2016, 10:08 AM
I feel your pain brother. $8400 in property tax. They get their money one way or the other

I guess it depends on how big a house/how much property you have, but $8400 in property tax in exchange for income tax seems still seems like a pretty good deal compared to having a 5% income tax and also having property taxes.

It'd be a lot easier for me to downsize my house/property than my income as a way to avoid taxes.

msbulldog
12-06-2016, 10:09 AM
And by coordinating, we have a conspiracy to INTENTIONALLY defraud the ncaa and violate their rules, which should warrant LOIC and given the duration and longevity of this "conspiracy," SMU 2.0 here we come!!!

And do you think this RebelRags thing is just the NCAA adding more to amount of cheating already found to prove widespread cheating to warrant a LOIC charge?