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msstate7
12-04-2016, 02:37 PM
State -3.5

Need to win this game.

msbulldog
12-04-2016, 02:56 PM
Be here when it starts, watching the Saints now.

msstate7
12-04-2016, 03:08 PM
Be here when it starts, watching the Saints now.

Me too. Of course the saints will be complete garbage today with a chance to get back in playoff race. I have no problem with moving on from Payton if we miss the playoffs this year

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 04:35 PM
I Firmly believe this game has a lot to do with the trajectory of our season. It will show how much these guys want it. A lazy sunday afternoon game with virtually nobody there against a decent team. Looking for our guys to do the little things better.

HoopsDawg
12-04-2016, 04:42 PM
State -3.5

Need to win this game.

Vegas sharps have pushed it down to -3. This is going to be a tough game and good litmus test for the pups.

msstate7
12-04-2016, 05:16 PM
Defense looks like the football team vs Arkansas

preachermatt83
12-04-2016, 05:21 PM
Peters is already better than Ready.

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 05:27 PM
The officials are hot garbage.

Peters looking good.

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 05:27 PM
Tyson looks 12

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 05:28 PM
Peters can shoot it.

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 05:28 PM
Seriously, what does IJ do on defense?

You would think a guy with his quickness could stay on his man..

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 05:29 PM
Pass the ****ing ball SR

LC Dawg
12-04-2016, 05:30 PM
Peters is feeling it!

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 05:31 PM
Peters shooting that thing

Big4Dawg
12-04-2016, 05:31 PM
We're really going to miss not having Ado.

msstate7
12-04-2016, 05:32 PM
Peters and nick weatherspoon are gonna be a big time backcourt

HoopsDawg
12-04-2016, 05:32 PM
Seriously, what does IJ do on defense?

You would think a guy with his quickness could stay on his man..

I came on here to post the same. He has given up 9 points defensively, maybe 11.

Howland is doing a nice job with his rotations. Night and day vs former coaches we've had.

preachermatt83
12-04-2016, 05:33 PM
Who is calling this game with Bart Gregory? He has no idea our players names.

Thick
12-04-2016, 05:33 PM
Our offside help defense is getting too deep into the lane, and cannot recover to the wing quick enough. Going to have to make an adjustment.

msstate7
12-04-2016, 05:33 PM
Lamar peters... not Isaiah peters, not ij peters... Lamar peters

Get it right tv guys

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 05:34 PM
http://giphy.com/gifs/7XDmPMtNgvDlC/html5

the59dawg
12-04-2016, 05:35 PM
The officials are hot garbage.

Peters looking good.

Yep Holman now has 3 fouls and Witherspoon has 2 really shitty charging calls. Still in first half. Peters just made his 4th straight 3. He's hot.

preachermatt83
12-04-2016, 05:36 PM
Peters is good in transition as well. And unselfish. He's gonna be very very special.

HoopsDawg
12-04-2016, 05:37 PM
Good decision on the break from Peters.

preachermatt83
12-04-2016, 05:39 PM
This officiating is awful

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 05:44 PM
Carter looks like he should still be in middle school.

LC Dawg
12-04-2016, 05:45 PM
I really wish we'd drive more often.

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 05:45 PM
Seriously, no travel called there? What are the officials watching?

And compound it with a turnover..

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 05:45 PM
Herard playing well today

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 05:48 PM
44-36 MSU at half

msstate7
12-04-2016, 05:49 PM
Herard playing well today

Yes he is. We need him to start playing to potential

LC Dawg
12-04-2016, 05:49 PM
Really good first half. These guys are growing up.

preachermatt83
12-04-2016, 05:50 PM
This team is exactly what we were thinking they were gonna be. Frustrating at times due to age but SUPER talented that reveals itself in streaks. The future is very very bright guys.

Thick
12-04-2016, 05:50 PM
Pretty good first half. LP is exactly what I was expecting, and he's getting better and more confident game to game. I really like to see him push it in transition, so much better with the ball in his hands.

BayouDawg
12-04-2016, 05:51 PM
Good first half. These young guys are getting better with each game. The ball movement is night and day difference from the first 2 games. Good job Coach Howland!

MarketingBully
12-04-2016, 05:52 PM
Overall great half. We could do better on defense but a lot of that had to do with Green and his officiaiting crew. I hate how they called the two flop offensive fouls on Q.

MarketingBully
12-04-2016, 05:54 PM
Good first half. These young guys are getting better with each game. The ball movement is night and day difference from the first 2 games. Good job Coach Howland!

Yeah, I also think as they gain confidence at this level we will be a much better three point shooting team and teams won't be able to zone us as much.

thf24
12-04-2016, 05:55 PM
Has college basketball officiating always been the same degree of dogshit it has the past 2-3 years? It's like they're not even paying attention half the time. Either that or they're too zoned in on picking up the most ticky tack shit possible to notice the obvious stuff.

BayouDawg
12-04-2016, 05:58 PM
Yeah, I also think as they gain confidence at this level we will be a much better three point shooting team and teams won't be able to zone us as much.

I agree. You can tell we've put a lot of work in at practice attacking the zone. I was a little worried early on but I feel a lot better about our offense now

Big4Dawg
12-04-2016, 06:01 PM
I agree with everyone here that that was a good half. Then I see this shit:

RT @MikeBBonner: Overall, not a very good half for the Bulldogs. They finished strong, though.

HoopsDawg
12-04-2016, 06:01 PM
Overall great half. We could do better on defense but a lot of that had to do with Green and his officiaiting crew. I hate how they called the two flop offensive fouls on Q.

The 2nd one definitely should have been a no call. Good first half. Got to put another one together to get the win.

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:05 PM
How hard is it to say HERARD!?

It's not pronounced Herad? Is it????

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:17 PM
All of you go get alcohol or something?

Sloppy second half for both teams so far.

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:20 PM
IJ "I don't need to pass" Ready

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:21 PM
55-40 good guys with 13:00 left

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:25 PM
Lamar apparently discovered Strange Brew. He has come ALIVE!

Big4Dawg
12-04-2016, 06:25 PM
Peters needs to start over Ready. It's time.

msstate7
12-04-2016, 06:26 PM
We aren't close to being there yet, but it's coming... this is gonna be a very good basketball team by next season if not the end of this one

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:27 PM
We aren't close to being there yet, but it's coming... this is gonna be a very good basketball team by next season if not the end of this one

I think we are closer than any of us expected to be at this point in the season.

chef dixon
12-04-2016, 06:31 PM
Our ball movement has been solid today. Best I've seen it in 5 years.

RocketDawg
12-04-2016, 06:31 PM
OK, got a question of the basketball knowledgeable: GS just had an intentional foul called on them, and it was legitimate. We got two shots, and then the ball. The question is ... near the end of the game, teams that are behind almost always start intentionally fouling in the hopes of the other team missing the FTs. Why are those not considered intentional fouls where the team that gets fouled keeps the ball?

chef dixon
12-04-2016, 06:31 PM
We've got players. That isn't in doubt.

gtowndawg
12-04-2016, 06:33 PM
Late post but the announcers said in the first half State is the youngest team in Division one basketball (over 300 teams).

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:34 PM
OK, got a question of the basketball knowledgeable: GS just had an intentional foul called on them, and it was legitimate. We got two shots, and then the ball. The question is ... near the end of the game, teams that are behind almost always start intentionally fouling in the hopes of the other team missing the FTs. Why are those not considered intentional fouls where the team that gets fouled keeps the ball?

My guess would have to deal with player safety. An intentional foul on someone going up to dunk or shoot is much more dangerous than intentional reach in...

LC Dawg
12-04-2016, 06:34 PM
I hope Peters has got all the screwing up out of his system because he is going to be fun to watch.

mstatefan91
12-04-2016, 06:41 PM
My current assessment is that if either Q or Peters is on from 3 land, we will have a good chance to win any game..

If not... could get ugly quickly.

HoopsDawg
12-04-2016, 06:47 PM
Wow, Q had an off game and we still win big. Pretty good game defensively and on the boards from Keglar too.

gtowndawg
12-04-2016, 06:48 PM
We are hot from 3 but this isn't a sustainable plan. Way to many 3's without any attempt of working it inside.

CarolinaDawgs
12-04-2016, 06:53 PM
That many 3s could turn into fool's gold for these youngins.. But Lamar.. WE ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY

MarketingBully
12-04-2016, 06:56 PM
My current assessment is that if either Q or Peters is on from 3 land, we will have a good chance to win any game..

If not... could get ugly quickly.

I don't think so. We still have Carter and Kegler who could get hot from 3 point land. Kegler had 4 threes today and Carter has hit five in a game already this year. We have a lot of shooters and as they gain confidence zoning us would be idiotic.

MarketingBully
12-04-2016, 06:58 PM
We are hot from 3 but this isn't a sustainable plan. Way to many 3's without any attempt of working it inside.

Did you watch the game? A lot of those threes were from penetration and dishing it back outside. That is how you beat a zone.

thf24
12-04-2016, 06:59 PM
Problem is we kinda have to live and die by the 3 right now. All our big guys are either stretch 4's or not experienced enough to be comfortable working inside yet. Herard might get there late in the year, and Ado and Brooks will hopefully help out there next year, but until then we'lol have to be a mostly jump shooting team.

MarketingBully
12-04-2016, 07:00 PM
OK, got a question of the basketball knowledgeable: GS just had an intentional foul called on them, and it was legitimate. We got two shots, and then the ball. The question is ... near the end of the game, teams that are behind almost always start intentionally fouling in the hopes of the other team missing the FTs. Why are those not considered intentional fouls where the team that gets fouled keeps the ball?

Yeah, it's all about player saftey. Just reaching in at the end of the game won't grant an intentional foul even though technically it is.

MarketingBully
12-04-2016, 07:04 PM
Problem is we kinda have to live and die by the 3 right now. All our big guys are either stretch 4's or not experienced enough to be comfortable working inside yet. Herard might get there late in the year, and Ado and Brooks will hopefully help out there next year, but until then we'lol have to be a mostly jump shooting team.

Did you guys watch the game or are just commenting on how many threes we shot? We penetrated the zone and when we didn't have anything worked it back out to the perimeter for open looks which we will bury a lot of the time. We also worked it down low to Herard and Holman but Holman got in foul trouble early. Herard had at least 7-8 points today on feeds to the post. How we worked our offense today is how you beat a zone. It wasn't as if we jacked up threes at the beginning of the shot clock. Ask Bayoudog. He understands that we had great ball movement today and did awesome on our zone offense. Best ball movement and working our offense I have seen us do all year.

LC Dawg
12-04-2016, 07:13 PM
With Q and Peters both missing games we haven't been at full strength except a handful of games and Stapleton will be back at some point. We'll have some tough games but it sure is fun to be good and know we will get even better.

Political Hack
12-04-2016, 08:14 PM
We are hot from 3 but this isn't a sustainable plan. Way to many 3's without any attempt of working it inside.

It's a very sustainable plan. We shoot open 3's. It's not like we're hitting fade aways as the clock expires. We're spreading the court and moving the ball quick to get open looks. Good teams hit a high percentage of open shots and great teams know how to find open shots.

We are better coached right now than I've ever seen us in our half court offense. The kids on this ran have a high basketball IQ and you can't undervalue that. We're good and we're going to challenge some folks in the SEC and the SECT

tcdog70
12-04-2016, 09:24 PM
Might as well get used to it. We are going to shoot a bunch of 3s. But guess what we have players that can shoot a high percentage. We aren't just jacking up threes we are setting up threes. Important to keep down turnovers. Fewer turnovers means more shots.

MCsMGs
12-04-2016, 10:26 PM
It's a very sustainable plan. We shoot open 3's. It's not like we're hitting fade aways as the clock expires. We're spreading the court and moving the ball quick to get open looks. Good teams hit a high percentage of open shots and great teams know how to find open shots.

yep...

Until Herard and Datcher develop and we get some depth on the blocks, it's our only sustainable plan.

Political Hack
12-05-2016, 09:20 AM
yep...

Until Herard and Datcher develop and we get some depth on the blocks, it's our only sustainable plan.

Can't blame folks for not seeing it. It's been a while since we've had the chance to see what a good basketball team looks like.

Liverpooldawg
12-05-2016, 10:20 AM
Until we develop an inside game this is what you are going to see. As was pointed out, we are working to get OPEN threes and have guys that can HIT them so it's not as bad a plan as it was the last few years.

thf24
12-05-2016, 10:54 AM
Until we develop an inside game this is what you are going to see. As was pointed out, we are working to get OPEN threes and have guys that can HIT them so it's not as bad a plan as it was the last few years.

Exactly. No one's saying we just jacked 3's last night. We had a good gameplan to break their zone and get open shots. It doesn't change the fact that we don't have a particularly threatening inside presence right now, and can't rely on playing inside out if we're having a cold shooting night.

gtowndawg
12-05-2016, 11:12 AM
Exactly. No one's saying we just jacked 3's last night. We had a good gameplan to break their zone and get open shots. It doesn't change the fact that we don't have a particularly threatening inside presence right now, and can't rely on playing inside out if we're having a cold shooting night.

That's exactly right. Didn't think I would need to explain that part. We are one dimensional. That's never a long term sustainable plan but I understand it's out only option at this point.

chef dixon
12-05-2016, 02:49 PM
The game has changed to where 3 point shooting is not a terrible plan. We will improve down low. Herard needs to work on his hands. Datcher needs to just get in there and bang and I'm happy.

I'm very pleased with how Holman is coming along. He provides us with different dimensions Ware didn't have.

Our guard play is just going to be nasty by years end.

smootness
12-05-2016, 03:08 PM
It's not a bad plan at all. The most advanced basketball offenses right now are concentrating their shots on those right at the basket and those at the 3-point line. Those are the two most efficient shots in basketball, assuming you can hit them at a reasonable %.

MarketingBully
12-05-2016, 04:45 PM
Last I checked Villanova won a national championship with said plan last year.

maroonmania
12-05-2016, 04:47 PM
yep...

Until Herard and Datcher develop and we get some depth on the blocks, it's our only sustainable plan.

Exactly, perimeter shooting is our strength right now so why wouldn't you lean on that?