Stands off to an ugly 3-5 start

[lamont]

lost a close one to Mizzou today. Rough start for a Sr led team.

[smootness]

You're cool.

[Goldendawg]

He recruits well and coaches pretty well in the regular season, until he loses the locker room.

[msstate7]

Rick ray 4-1

[shoeless joe]

How did howland do with a senior led team and an all everything freshman in his second year?

[lamont]

good for Ray- hopefully he can get going

[Goldendawg]

We just didn't give Ray and Croom enough time (Not!).

[msstate7]

good for Ray- hopefully he can get going

I agree. I'm pulling for stanbury too... unless he becomes a problem recruiting wise vs us

[BayouDawg]

Stans will do good recruiting wise. As far as in game coaching, he is what he is. He gave us some good times but it was time to move on.

[Goldendawg]

I don't pull for anyone but State and whoever is playing OM. Not that my personal opinion changes much, but I don't want any SEC West teams to improve but us.

[MarketingBully]

Rick ray 4-1

You're looking at Missouri State not SEMO. SEMO is 4-3 without playing anyone with a cool 20 point loss to a shitty Illini team on his record.

[MarketingBully]

How did howland do with a senior led team and an all everything freshman in his second year?

What the hell are you talking about in his second year? The team chemistry last year sucked balls because early they didn't buy in and were jealous of the Newman pub. This year we are 5-2 and more then likely should be 10-2 before the SEC season starts. I think we end up with 18 wins this year as well. By the end of last season though I don't think anyone wanted to play us. I think it will be similar to this year except we won't have a Southern or UMKC loss like we did last year and will make the post season.

[Dawg61]

20 point losses to Lehigh and UCF aren't exactly good losses. I don't think anyone was jealous of Newman I think they just didn't like him and he didn't give them any reason for pause. Oh and shoeless last year was Howland's first year.

[MarketingBully]

20 point losses to Lehigh and UCF aren't exactly good losses. I don't think anyone was jealous of Newman I think they just didn't like him and he didn't give them any reason for pause. Oh and shoeless last year was Howland's first year.

If a committee were looking at the Lehigh game, they would see we were without a 20 ppg scorer so I don't think anyone would hold that game against us. Also, the Lehigh game was a 14 point loss not 20.

[msstate7]

You're looking at Missouri State not SEMO. SEMO is 4-3 without playing anyone with a cool 20 point loss to a shitty Illini team on his record.

You're right... I did look at the wrong team. My bad

[MarketingBully]

You're right... I did look at the wrong team. My bad

No worries. It's easy to do.

[lamont]

UCF is 6-1 and their only loss is to #3 Villanova...LeHigh is projected to win their conference. No Q in that game was a killa

[lamont]

I don't think anyone was jealous of Newman I think they just didn't like him and he didn't give them any reason for pause.

They were 100% jealous of Newman and it killed team chemistry. But that falls on Howland. I dont think he did a very good job last year- but transitions arent always easy- especially in basketball where the players are such pussies.

All I did was give a Stands update. If he was 7-1, you can damn well bet someone else would have made sure they told us about it. Just something to spur discussion.

[MarketingBully]

UCF is 6-1 and their only loss is to #3 Villanova...LeHigh is projected to win their conference. No Q in that game was a killa

Agreed. If Q plays in that game, we win.

[Dawg61]

If a committee were looking at the Lehigh game, they would see we were without a 20 ppg scorer so I don't think anyone would hold that game against us. Also, the Lehigh game was a 14 point loss not 20.

They ain't dissecting our games. It's a bad loss but it's not a total bubble buster.

[msstate7]

Agreed. If Q plays in that game, we win.

I think Q not playing those 2 games may end up being more beneficial though. It led to the emergence of Eli wright. Him giving us 8-12 off the bench will be huge going forward

[Ari Gold]

I Don't care either way if he wins or loses there at WKY.
But one thing for certain that I found out is that a certain coach from that conference isn't happy about the tactics of Rick..
So don't be surprised to hear some rumblings of the NCAA there ...

[Liverpooldawg]

Meanwhile we have yet to match his record his last year here.

[msstate7]

I Don't care either way if he wins or loses there at WKY.
But one thing for certain that I found out is that a certain coach from that conference isn't happy about the tactics of Rick..
So don't be surprised to hear some rumblings of the NCAA there ...

Gotta be jones, right?

[Dawg61]

They were 100% jealous of Newman

Guess we just read it differently. Looked to me like everyone didn't like him. Maybe that's because they were in fact jealous of him or that he came off as arrogant and didn't want to include himself. I seriously doubt if you asked every player their thoughts on Newman you'd get one single person saying they were jealous of him so that means it's just your interpretation of the friction. You shouldn't speak in 100% when it's your interpretation and not an actual fact. Just saying. I don't really care either way. Newman was a dick and he was way overrated. His daddy is a retard too. You can tell him I said that.

[lamont]

Meanwhile we have yet to match his record his last year here.

we havent matched the drama and embarrassment either

[lamont]

Guess we just read it differently. Looked to me like everyone didn't like him. Maybe that's because they were in fact jealous of him or that he came off as arrogant and didn't want to include himself. I seriously doubt if you asked every player their thoughts on Newman you'd get one single person saying they were jealous of him so that means it's just your interpretation of the friction. You shouldn't speak in 100% when it's your interpretation and not an actual fact. Just saying. I don't really care either way. Newman was a dick and he was way overrated. His daddy is a retard too. You can tell him I said that.

I say its 100% because Howland told someone I know that last season was a cluster**** because all the Sr's resented Newman

[BeardoMSU]

Meanwhile we have yet to match his record his last year here.

I expect that to change soon. Maybe not this year, but soon.

[Dawg61]

I say its 100% because Howland told someone I know that last season was a cluster**** because all the Sr's resented Newman

Ok I think the seniors were fair in their resentment of him too. He and his daddy busted through the door and demanded things be done their way to appease Newman's draft stock and they still demanded it when every NBA scout told him to stay in college and he was forced to come back. Newman's skill/talent was the biggest detractor to his draft stock. He's not a point guard.

[MarketingBully]

I say its 100% because Howland told someone I know that last season was a cluster**** because all the Sr's resented Newman

Howland said something to that effect publically as well.

[lamont]

Ok I think the seniors were fair in their resentment of him too. He and his daddy busted through the door and demanded things be done their way to appease Newman's draft stock and they still demanded it when every NBA scout told him to stay in college and he was forced to come back. Newman's skill/talent was the biggest detractor to his draft stock. He's not a point guard.

Horatio was a pain in the ass too- no doubt

[Dawg61]

Meanwhile we have yet to match his record his last year here.

Both Ray and Howland have already made as many Sweet 16's at MSU as Bury did.

[MarketingBully]

Meanwhile we have yet to match his record his last year here.

We had Ray for three years and one year of a bunch of seniors that had no idea how to win in Howland's first year. But don't you worry those 21 wins will be bypassed sooner then later.

[shoeless joe]

What the hell are you talking about in his second year? The team chemistry last year sucked balls because early they didn't buy in and were jealous of the Newman pub. This year we are 5-2 and more then likely should be 10-2 before the SEC season starts. I think we end up with 18 wins this year as well. By the end of last season though I don't think anyone wanted to play us. I think it will be similar to this year except we won't have a Southern or UMKC loss like we did last year and will make the post season.

Dumbassedry on my part saying second year.

But my point still remains. RP was tryin to push the point that stans was struggling with a group of seniors and that meant he was a poor coach. Which of course is not an indicator of that. If it were then howland would be considered a poor coach based on last yr. obviously he's not.

I'm not sayin stans is or is not a good coach...just pointing out the silliness of RPs point. He was well aware of it when he posted it.

[HoopsDawg]

lost a close one to Mizzou today. Rough start for a Sr led team.

How does their "motion" look?

[lamont]

Dumbassedry on my part saying second year.

But my point still remains. RP was tryin to push the point that stans was struggling with a group of seniors and that meant he was a poor coach. Which of course is not an indicator of that. .

No- RP was simply giving an update on one of our former coaches. Butthurt bitches like you read too much into things and take it so personal about Stands that it has led to such enjoyment watching it all unfold. I simply stated fact. What people deduce from it is up to them

[MarketingBully]

Dumbassedry on my part saying second year.

But my point still remains. RP was tryin to push the point that stans was struggling with a group of seniors and that meant he was a poor coach. Which of course is not an indicator of that. If it were then howland would be considered a poor coach based on last yr. obviously he's not.

I'm not sayin stans is or is not a good coach...just pointing out the silliness of RPs point. He was well aware of it when he posted it.

Gotcha. I overreacted on the second year part. It's always tough in the coach's first year.

[Dawg61]

No- RP was simply giving an update on one of our former coaches. Butthurt bitches like you read too much into things and take it so personal about Stands that it has led to such enjoyment watching it all unfold. I simply stated fact. What people deduce from it is up to them

It's fascinating actually. Stansbury remains a hot topic for MSU fans. He certainly did a phenomenal job of building relationships with fans. Before he left he built himself a small army of dedicated loving Bulldog fans. I will admit that I am impressed with Stansbury in that aspect. He could recruit players to the campus and he made a lot of friends while he was here. I'll leave it at that and won't rehash all that he couldn't do like I already have 9,000 times before.

[shoeless joe]

No- RP was simply giving an update on one of our former coaches. Butthurt bitches like you read too much into things and take it so personal about Stands that it has led to such enjoyment watching it all unfold. I simply stated fact. What people deduce from it is up to them


You are wrong here. I'm far from "butt hurt" over the stans situation...in fact I felt it was time to let him go a year before we actually did. So you can take that angle somewhere else. You bringin up this situation is just like you starting threads about renfroe when he was struggling but remaining silent when he torched it in the first month up (and before you retort about that statement go back and look how I stated his hot first month did not mean he was gonna be an all star).

I enjoy your insight on football and your info regarding the OM situation...but your knowledge in other areas is lacking. You know this so you just stir the pot to garner clicks. I don't blame you but it is what it is.

[Liverpooldawg]

we havent matched the drama and embarrassment either

Maybe, maybe not. Nobody would notice now anyway. Just like few noticed about Newman but just the few of us who are rabid MSU basketball fans. Things are about to get better I think, thankfully.

[lamont]

I enjoy your insight on football and your info regarding the OM situation...but your knowledge in other areas is lacking. You know this so you just stir the pot to garner clicks. I don't blame you but it is what it is.

My knowledge is fine in other areas.

I talked about how Humphries couldnt hit RHP's. Posters trumpeted Hump as being All-SEC preseason. How did 2016 turn out? Hump played well but couldnt hit RHP's. He murdered LHP's but struggled in the SEC vs RHP's. It was so bad- Cohen didnt even play him vs an RHP in the deciding game for the College World Series.

I can give 100 more examples- but I dont need to. Elitedawgs exists because of my knowledge in the Big 3. Soccer? ya'll can have it.

[tcdog70]

It's fascinating actually. Stansbury remains a hot topic for MSU fans. He certainly did a phenomenal job of building relationships with fans. Before he left he built himself a small army of dedicated loving Bulldog fans. I will admit that I am impressed with Stansbury in that aspect. He could recruit players to the campus and he made a lot of friends while he was here. I'll leave it at that and won't rehash all that he couldn't do like I already have 9,000 times before.


Not hard to figure. Who was the last Coach to win twenty games, pretty much every year? Who was the Coach the last time the HUMP was Rocking? People appreciate that, especially with the shape of our program since. It is sad to think that the last team even with Sidney would beat the crap of every team we have had since.

[Ari Gold]

Gotta be jones, right?

No.. A coach in the conference wky is in

[Homedawg]

Both Ray and Howland have already made as many Sweet 16's at MSU as Bury did.

Now that's gold.

[Homedawg]

Not hard to figure. Who was the last Coach to win twenty games, pretty much every year? Who was the Coach the last time the HUMP was Rocking? People appreciate that, especially with the shape of our program since. It is sad to think that the last team even with Sidney would beat the crap of every team we have had since.

You mean the team that stil didn't make the tourney and made us an embarrassment all across the country?? I'll pass on all that "winning" the last year given the choice thanks.

[Homedawg]

Maybe, maybe not. Nobody would notice now anyway. Just like few noticed about Newman but just the few of us who are rabid MSU basketball fans. Things are about to get better I think, thankfully.

Maybe if we had an all out fight in the crowd of a tournament they would notice....wait, that's already happened🤔

[Homedawg]

With all my negative posts concerning stans, he did a good job here and is the perfect fit at western. He will win there. But some of y'al can't your head out of his ass long enough to see his time here was over and we were embarrassed nationally w the idiocy under him the last few years. That's just a fact, not an opinion.

[Thick]

With all my negative posts concerning stans, he did a good job here and is the perfect fit at western. He will win there. But some of y'al can't your head out of his ass long enough to see his time here was over and we were embarrassed nationally w the idiocy under him the last few years. That's just a fact, not an opinion.

Well said sir!