Dan Mullen controls how the next 2 weeks go

[lamont]

He can continue his coachspeak replies about having a job already and such when asked

OR

He can simply say "I'll be the coach at Miss State in 2017"


It's pretty simple on how to handle the media and rumormill. Does that obligate him to not accept another job? No. But it does eliminate negative recruiting against us about his intentions as coach. Thats a big deal

[EngDawg]

I guess maybe you want him to say he will only leave Starkville in a pine box?

[JoseBrown]

Hopes he's learned from past mistakes...

[Bubb Rubb]

This has been my argument all along.

We have a real chance to put Miss in the rear view mirror for years. It starts today. Gotta hit that big recruiting class and keep rolling.

[Political Hack]

This has been my argument all along.

We have a real chance to put Miss in the rear view mirror for years. It starts today. Gotta hit that big recruiting class and keep rolling.

Agree. Here's his chance to commit. He has to recognize the significance of this off season and he absolutely has to take advantage of it.

[blacklistedbully]

Yep...exactly what I've been thinking. He's lost a HUGE portion of our fanbase, in part because he has not done this, with the exception of one time that I can recall, and the damage had already been done.

If he wants a big slice of us back in his corner, he needs to do exactly as RP has said.....emphatically deny interest in other programs, but also say how he intends to be here a long time, and has unfinished business, etc.

Also, like RP said, that doesn't mean he can't bail anyway...but he needs to say it to help our recruiting, and to get our players all in.

[WinningIsRelentless]

Our new AD controls it more than Dan.

[preachermatt83]

Typically I would agree, however, we have to remember that Dan didn't get an extension last year and 5-7 this year makes it unlikely as well so he's trying to find some kind of leverage somewhere to get us to give him an extension.

[civildawg]

Give him an extension for recruiting but keep the buyout the same as it is now

[WinningIsRelentless]

Give him an extension for recruiting but keep the buyout the same as it is now

Exactly

[Quaoarsking]

He said during the postgame press conference last night that he'd be back in 2017...

[TXDawg]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

[MetEdDawg]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

If it's not a called press conference broadcast nationwide on ESPN, it's just not enough for some.

[Bubb Rubb]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

The onus is not on the fanbase. Most of the fanbase don't get wrapped up in whether he's leaving our not. A lot of us get wrapped up in the impact it has to recruiting. Teams use that stuff against us, which is why Mullen has to address them emphatically, even if they are ridiculous.

[CadaverDawg]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

Excellent post

[Liverpooldawg]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?
THIS!

[Jarius]

The reason those rumors are out there are because Mullen's agent wants them out there. I don't give a shit What Mullen says to the press. I want him to tell his agent, not the media, to lock that shit up and don't let anyone think he wants to take a job at Boston college, Maryland, Arizona, or any other school on MSU's level. If he has a shot at a big time job, then that's different. This year he won't though so there is no need for the circus.



He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

[dawgs]

He can continue his coachspeak replies about having a job already and such when asked

OR

He can simply say "I'll be the coach at Miss State in 2017"


It's pretty simple on how to handle the media and rumormill. Does that obligate him to not accept another job? No. But it does eliminate negative recruiting against us about his intentions as coach. Thats a big deal

yep, if in a couple of weeks, he's still being mentioned as a candidate, it's either because he and his agent are keeping his name in the running or because he's been interviewing. names don't stick around in the coaching carousel rumors more than a day or 2 without the coach doing something to keep his name out there.

how often do you see david shaw mentioned as an initial candidate for an open job, but never mentioned as a finalist or lingering in the discussions well into the coaching search? you don't have to make a public statement saying you'll be back at msu to get the point across. sometimes it's as simple as telling them no thanks and hanging up the phone and telling your agent to not float you name out there.

[archdog]

If it's not a called press conference broadcast nationwide on ESPN, it's just not enough for some.

Bingo. Can't have it go out to a select few.

[defiantdog]

Mullen will be back and K. Thompson will enroll early to have an extra Spring to learn the system.

[shoeless joe]

I think it's somewhere in the middle.

Yes...he should come out and say he'll be here next year, again, I guess. It definitely hurts us in recruiting. But at the same time his name coming up in some random article does not mean he's trying to get out of here.

[shannondawg]

He's making what? 4 + million a year, agents work on commissions, how is the agent helping himself to find ******* a less paying job?

[dawgoneyall]

He can continue his coachspeak replies about having a job already and such when asked

OR

He can simply say "I'll be the coach at Miss State in 2017"


It's pretty simple on how to handle the media and rumormill. Does that obligate him to not accept another job? No. But it does eliminate negative recruiting against us about his intentions as coach. Thats a big deal

I don't care if he lies but he needs to say he is at State long term.

We can handle the bitching and moaning later if he is lying.

[Todd4State]

So far I think Dan and his agent have handled job rumors a lot better.

[lamont]

He's making what? 4 + million a year, agents work on commissions, how is the agent helping himself to find ******* a less paying job?

Houston, Arizona. and Oregon would all pay over 4MM. Houston paid Herman over 3MM and offered him a million dollar raise this season.

As I said earlier- I think he stays. But if he were to leave- it would likely be one of those 3

[lamont]

So far I think Dan and his agent have handled job rumors a lot better.

agree 100%...much more quiet this year

[Todd4State]

Give him an extension for recruiting but keep the buyout the same as it is now

I want to restructure his contract with the exact same base salary but with bonuses for recruiting in the top 20, top 15, etc. winning the Egg Bowl, winning the SEC West, going to a bowl, a BCS playoff bowl and winning a bowl game.

[DogsofAnarchy]

Yea but for some of you wait and see types an ASSHOLE tickle is enough to get you buy for a while. You DO understand that his lack of PUBLIC commitment has cost us recruits don't you? Now I am all for DAN Mullen. Let's get that straight but he has to want us as much as we want him and he has to fix this staff also.




If it's not a called press conference broadcast nationwide on ESPN, it's just not enough for some.

[dawgs]

I think it's somewhere in the middle.

Yes...he should come out and say he'll be here next year, again, I guess. It definitely hurts us in recruiting. But at the same time his name coming up in some random article does not mean he's trying to get out of here.

Sure, initial speculation on an opening just throws a list out there. That's just people guessing at some potential hires, but when his name lingers in the coaching search much beyond the initial speculation, it's because he and his agent either are keeping his name in the discussion or he's actually out interviewing for the job. David Shaw gets mentioned for jobs all the time but rarely is mentioned after the initial speculation because he doesn't keep his name in the discussion. Chris Petersen at Boise st rarely was considered a serious candidate until he left for Washington (only one I remember was the USC job). Legit reporters don't just throw out bullshit names when reporting on finalists for jobs and reporting who has been interviewing. They get it from a source they feel is reliable. It's not a bunch of reporters sitting around deciding they wanna **** with msu fans so they blindly report Mullen is a candidate for all these other jobs, they have a reason to report he's interviewing or a finalist for jobs. That's why we get screwed on the recruiting trail.

[anubus]

Dan Mullen can build a great program here this recruiting class can set the tone for the next 4-5 years and I'm sure he knows it.BTW State is the flagship school of the state of Mississippi not the liberal arts school up north

[Leroy Jenkins]

I want to restructure his contract with the exact same base salary but with bonuses for recruiting in the top 20, top 15, etc. winning the Egg Bowl, winning the SEC West, going to a bowl, a BCS playoff bowl and winning a bowl game.

Based on who's metric?

A class of Prescott, McKinney, Wright, Day, Slay, Banks, Robinson, P. Smith, Lawrence etc.. wouldn't get you in the top 15, but I would call it a success with 9 NFL 3 star guys.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

The problem is we will have those among us that will want Dan to say he is staying every single time he has a press conference. Past history shows Dan will say it once and that will be the end of it. That's how he is. But someone will have someone "close to the situation", who quite frankly track record has been shitty as hell, say Dan is looking. If the dude says he is staying, here's an idea, let's believe him. Been true before

[Liverpooldawg]

The problem is we will have those among us that will want Dan to say he is staying every single time he has a press conference. Past history shows Dan will say it once and that will be the end of it. That's how he is. But someone will have someone "close to the situation", who quite frankly track record has been shitty as hell, say Dan is looking. If the dude says he is staying, here's an idea, let's believe him. Been true before
Yep

[Bama_Dawg]

Mullen will be back and K. Thompson will enroll early to have an extra Spring to learn the system.

Could he enroll early enough to go through bowl practices like Fitz did a few years back?

[Coach007]

He can continue his coachspeak replies about having a job already and such when asked

OR

He can simply say "I'll be the coach at Miss State in 2017"


It's pretty simple on how to handle the media and rumormill. Does that obligate him to not accept another job? No. But it does eliminate negative recruiting against us about his intentions as coach. Thats a big deal

So you want him to lie and ruin his reputation? OR you want him to forgo his leverage for extending his contract? Not exactly understanding what you people want from him?

[Coach007]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

What I love is the fact that Mullen has been here for how long? And we still get these threads. Some people just want to live in anger or fear.


Here is my thought. If he wants to go... bye bye. We will find another coach.

[Coach007]

Based on who's metric?

A class of Prescott, McKinney, Wright, Day, Slay, Banks, Robinson, P. Smith, Lawrence etc.. wouldn't get you in the top 15, but I would call it a success with 9 NFL 3 star guys.

Yep!



People want the stars. When is actuality... we need consistency on at DC.

[1bigdawg]

Yep!
People want the stars. When is actuality... we need consistency on at DC.

We also need to recruit offensive linemen who have a chance at blocking SEC DLs. Yes, that means even Bama DLs, at least some of the time.

[smootness]

Yep...exactly what I've been thinking. He's lost a HUGE portion of our fanbase, in part because he has not done this, with the exception of one time that I can recall, and the damage had already been done.

If he wants a big slice of us back in his corner, he needs to do exactly as RP has said.....emphatically deny interest in other programs, but also say how he intends to be here a long time, and has unfinished business, etc.

Also, like RP said, that doesn't mean he can't bail anyway...but he needs to say it to help our recruiting, and to get our players all in.

So he's lost a huge portion of our fanbase because he doesn't say empty platitudes? You admit you don't care if he means it, but it's very important he says it?

Please. If he's lost a huge portion of our fanbase (which I don't buy for a second), then it's because they believe everything they read.

[dawgday166]

The problem is we will have those among us that will want Dan to say he is staying every single time he has a press conference. Past history shows Dan will say it once and that will be the end of it. That's how he is. But someone will have someone "close to the situation", who quite frankly track record has been shitty as hell, say Dan is looking. If the dude says he is staying, here's an idea, let's believe him. Been true before

Most coaches who come out and emphatically say "I'm staying" usually end up leaving the the job that is being speculated about ... The Dark Lord is an example.

[smootness]

Most coaches who come out and emphatically say "I'm staying" usually end up leaving the the job that is being speculated about ... The Dark Lord is an example.

Yep. Those that believe they're staying have no real reason to be emphatic about anything because they're not really even thinking about leaving and don't much care. Those that know they're probably gone but don't want it out yet are more likely to say something emphatic to quell the rumors for a short period of time.

[justwin]

Sure, initial speculation on an opening just throws a list out there. That's just people guessing at some potential hires, but when his name lingers in the coaching search much beyond the initial speculation, it's because he and his agent either are keeping his name in the discussion or he's actually out interviewing for the job. David Shaw gets mentioned for jobs all the time but rarely is mentioned after the initial speculation because he doesn't keep his name in the discussion. Chris Petersen at Boise st rarely was considered a serious candidate until he left for Washington (only one I remember was the USC job). Legit reporters don't just throw out bullshit names when reporting on finalists for jobs and reporting who has been interviewing. They get it from a source they feel is reliable. It's not a bunch of reporters sitting around deciding they wanna **** with msu fans so they blindly report Mullen is a candidate for all these other jobs, they have a reason to report he's interviewing or a finalist for jobs. That's why we get screwed on the recruiting trail.

This is one of the worst and shortsided posts I've ever read and contributes to the click bait agenda. Legit reporters aren't reporting he's looking because it's just false. The annual chatter about Mullen leaving is perpetuated by OM media and toxic MSU fans.

[dawgs]

The problem is we will have those among us that will want Dan to say he is staying every single time he has a press conference. Past history shows Dan will say it once and that will be the end of it. That's how he is. But someone will have someone "close to the situation", who quite frankly track record has been shitty as hell, say Dan is looking. If the dude says he is staying, here's an idea, let's believe him. Been true before

1) it's not for us, it's for recruiting.

2) you don't get rumored to be a finalist for Maryland and Miami for several weeks if you aren't actively pursueinf the job and interviewing, thus indicating that he is at least entertaining the idea of leaving. Or if his agent is keeping him in the discussion looking to leverage a raise and extension, it's going to backfire because it hurts our recruiting, which then hurts the results on the field, which then results in Mullen getting fired and/or being less likely to get an elite job he truly wants.

[dawgs]

This is one of the worst and shortsided posts I've ever read and contributes to the click bait agenda. Legit reporters aren't reporting he's looking because it's just false. The annual chatter about Mullen leaving is perpetuated by OM media and toxic MSU fans.

Google "dan Mullen Maryland". It was coming from a lot more places than just ole miss. OM is not sole all powerful force able to manipulate everything and the sooner our fanbase realizes OM is a little fish like the rest of us that no one outside of MS really thinks twice about, the better off we will be. The fact is that dan was shopping himself hard coming off dak, and it killed our recruiting at a time we should have been recruiting better than ever. Sure, some OM sources may have helped to keep things going, but dan set it up for them giving enough truth for them to push the narrative even further.

[Really Clark?]

1) it's not for us, it's for recruiting.

2) you don't get rumored to be a finalist for Maryland and Miami for several weeks if you aren't actively pursueinf the job and interviewing, thus indicating that he is at least entertaining the idea of leaving. Or if his agent is keeping him in the discussion looking to leverage a raise and extension, it's going to backfire because it hurts our recruiting, which then hurts the results on the field, which then results in Mullen getting fired and/or being less likely to get an elite job he truly wants.

Maryland was completely false and started by the Maryland 247 site. Rosie even addressed this a few months ago on his show. That's the problem. A year later a people still believe a false rumor.

[Jack Lambert]

Google "dan Mullen Maryland". It was coming from a lot more places than just ole miss. OM is not sole all powerful force able to manipulate everything and the sooner our fanbase realizes OM is a little fish like the rest of us that no one outside of MS really thinks twice about, the better off we will be. The fact is that dan was shopping himself hard coming off dak, and it killed our recruiting at a time we should have been recruiting better than ever. Sure, some OM sources may have helped to keep things going, but dan set it up for them giving enough truth for them to push the narrative even further.

If they are willing to pay recruits and family members. Move families to Oxford, pay their rent and utilities, I suspect they are willing to pay media people to say things for them. Hell most news reporters are just above the poverty level in pay and they are a easy target. "Here's $1000.00 put this rumor out there for us. Then push it"

[smootness]

Google "dan Mullen Maryland".

I did. The only places reporting anything beyond random blogs were SEC Country and Gridiron Now, which are...pretty much random blogs. And they basically just reported that there were rumors, undoubtedly from message boards primarily. The CL briefly reported on the rumors but just to say that his name had been mentioned...which, again, opens up the possibilities to report absolutely anything.

Anyone who believes Mullen was anywhere close to leaving for Maryland is someone I don't trust for information. It is pretty laughable on its face.

There was also a rumor about Mullen and Virginia. Guess where that started...right here: http://virginia.247sports.com/Board/16/Contents/UVAVTMD-bidding-war-for-mullen-41356127.

Just because there is now a limitless supply of sports blogs and forums ready to post any rumor does not make that rumor more legitimate. It is now possible to completely make something up, have it reported in 100 different places, and people start to assume it is fact.

[Liverpooldawg]

This is one of the worst and shortsided posts I've ever read and contributes to the click bait agenda. Legit reporters aren't reporting he's looking because it's just false. The annual chatter about Mullen leaving is perpetuated by OM media and toxic MSU fans.

Yep

[Liverpooldawg]

Google "dan Mullen Maryland". It was coming from a lot more places than just ole miss. OM is not sole all powerful force able to manipulate everything and the sooner our fanbase realizes OM is a little fish like the rest of us that no one outside of MS really thinks twice about, the better off we will be. The fact is that dan was shopping himself hard coming off dak, and it killed our recruiting at a time we should have been recruiting better than ever. Sure, some OM sources may have helped to keep things going, but dan set it up for them giving enough truth for them to push the narrative even further.

Nope

[Commercecomet24]

I did. The only places reporting anything beyond random blogs were SEC Country and Gridiron Now, which are...pretty much random blogs. And they basically just reported that there were rumors, undoubtedly from message boards primarily. The CL briefly reported on the rumors but just to say that his name had been mentioned...which, again, opens up the possibilities to report absolutely anything.

Anyone who believes Mullen was anywhere close to leaving for Maryland is someone I don't trust for information. It is pretty laughable on its face.

There was also a rumor about Mullen and Virginia. Guess where that started...right here: http://virginia.247sports.com/Board/16/Contents/UVAVTMD-bidding-war-for-mullen-41356127.

Just because there is now a limitless supply of sports blogs and forums ready to post any rumor does not make that rumor more legitimate. It is now possible to completely make something up, have it reported in 100 different places, and people start to assume it is fact.

You know every year when this Mullen to xxxx starts, I google Mullen to xxxx and there's hardly ever any credible media source reporting it as you just stated. I started googling it when the Mullen to UF started after Urban "retired" and there's very little credible media reporting on any of the rumors. It's astounding what can be generated on the internet.

[Commercecomet24]

Maryland was completely false and started by the Maryland 247 site. Rosie even addressed this a few months ago on his show. That's the problem. A year later a people still believe a false rumor.

Hey if it's on the internet it must be true, right?*********************************** smh

[QuadrupleOption]

Yea but for some of you wait and see types an ASSHOLE tickle is enough to get you buy for a while. You DO understand that his lack of PUBLIC commitment has cost us recruits don't you? Now I am all for DAN Mullen. Let's get that straight but he has to want us as much as we want him and he has to fix this staff also.

Which recruits has Dan Mullen lost out on because he wouldn't address job hunting rumors? And do you have quotes from said recruits?

[was21]

For some reason this continues to be a burr in some folks' asses. A lot of coaches do the same thing and maybe their fan bases react the same way but we don't hear about it. Some coaches have lied and said they'd never leave only to do so a week or so after they said it

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

1) it's not for us, it's for recruiting.

2) you don't get rumored to be a finalist for Maryland and Miami for several weeks if you aren't actively pursueinf the job and interviewing, thus indicating that he is at least entertaining the idea of leaving. Or if his agent is keeping him in the discussion looking to leverage a raise and extension, it's going to backfire because it hurts our recruiting, which then hurts the results on the field, which then results in Mullen getting fired and/or being less likely to get an elite job he truly wants.
No brother that's where you are 100% wrong. It is for us. And the reason it has the effect on recruiting that it does is because us, the fanbase, keep the shit going. Once he says he is staying leave it alone.

And as far as Mullen to wherever is concerned. 99% of that comes from people so far out of the loop now that they don't even realize there is a loop now. You can be your own worst enemy if all you want to post is click bait.

[swdawg]

agree 100%...much more quiet this year

Maybe this is the reason for the change in representation???

[Bucky Dog]

Can we stop this thread? It's only going to lead to stupid shit posts with opinions all over the place. Leave it at what RP said from the start and be done with it. I'm with Dan!!

[Bully75]

Can we stop this thread? It's only going to lead to stupid shit posts with opinions all over the place. Leave it at what RP said from the start and be done with it. I'm with Dan!!

This!

[SPMT]

He's already said multiple times that he'll be back in Starkville next season. As recently as last night after the game, he said something to the effect that this team needs to get mentally tougher, so he'll needs to go "old school" on them this off season and next season.

The true onus is on our fan base to not believe every stupid rumor that gets thrown out there. Every off-season, Mullen has said that he has a job and he's happy in Starkville and that he doesn't deal in rumors. Yet, every off-season, our dubmass fans jump on every rumor regarding every coaching vacancy and give them legs. What more do you want Mullen to do?

That's great and all for this year, but that's just not true for multiple years in the last, especially last year. He did not definitively refute a damn thing last year and that pisses people off. There are many coaches who do refute rumors and "re-commit" to their current job.

[Really Clark?]

That's great and all for this year, but that's just not true for multiple years in the last, especially last year. He did not definitively refute a damn thing last year and that pisses people off. There are many coaches who do refute rumors and "re-commit" to their current job.

He has multiple times for multiple years. People just refuse to accept it

http://www.cdispatch.com/msusports/article.asp?aid=14324

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/mississippi-states-dan-mullen-denies-contact-with-michigan-others/amp/

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/sports/college/mississippi-state/2015/11/23/dan-mullen-job-rumors-love-one-have/76271802/