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Dawgology
11-21-2016, 09:41 AM
According to several Ole Miss sites they have recordings of one of our players speaking to Ole Miss recruiters well before he signed with State.....

Just keep that in mind you athletes that are considering Ole Miss. They are not secretly recording you to help you. It's called black mail.

Liverpooldawg
11-21-2016, 09:46 AM
Some of you lawyers weigh in on this. Isn't it illegal to do that, as in REALLY illegal, not just NCAA illegal?

Ifyouonlyknew
11-21-2016, 09:47 AM
So OM are going to release tapes of them paying or offering to pay players? Or are they trying to say a guy asked for money & of course they say no sir young man we don't recruit that way? Sounds about as credible as Leo & Jeffery being suspended Saturday.

Jack Lambert
11-21-2016, 09:50 AM
You might find some of the footage on some free porn site.

Jacksondevildog
11-21-2016, 09:50 AM
Rumor I heard is they pay the kids on a visit and then blackmail them saying, "We will turn you in if you don't come here". It's hard to believe that if it's actually happening.

Jack Lambert
11-21-2016, 09:51 AM
So OM are going to release tapes of them paying or offering to pay players? Or are they trying to say a guy asked for money & of course they say no sir young man we don't recruit that way? Sounds about as credible as Leo & Jeffery being suspended Saturday.

It's to hold it over their heads to keep them quiet. I guess they never thought that the NCAA would give immunity.

fader2103
11-21-2016, 09:52 AM
who released this info? I think if Ole Miss people are saying it means Leo is talking on video saying MSU is offering this much. Im kinda out of the loop on this one.

Bama_Dawg
11-21-2016, 09:52 AM
So OM are going to release tapes of them paying or offering to pay players? Or are they trying to say a guy asked for money & of course they say no sir young man we don't recruit that way? Sounds about as credible as Leo & Jeffery being suspended Saturday.

Creative editing. Its like everyone on social media, they'll only let out things that will benefit their program. The things that damn them will not be available.

They are purging 30,000 videos as we speak. They've probably hired HRC's team that did this for her.

"Wiped clean? Like with a cloth or something?"

Ifyouonlyknew
11-21-2016, 09:54 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

Bubb Rubb
11-21-2016, 09:59 AM
If Ole Miss had anything like that, it would have already been released if it exonerated them and made us look bad. They have been getting hammered in the court of public opinion for a year now. They would release that just to be a distraction for the egg bowl, if nothing else. This tape is one of two things:

1. Completely fictitious
2. Self-incriminating

Anything other than one of these two things and we would have already seen it.

BeardoMSU
11-21-2016, 09:59 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

Thank. You.

Liverpooldawg
11-21-2016, 10:04 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

It's aimed at instate recruiting too I would expect. See, THEY are going to be in trouble too, that kind of thing.

Corn Bread
11-21-2016, 10:09 AM
So OM are going to release tapes of them paying or offering to pay players? Or are they trying to say a guy asked for money & of course they say no sir young man we don't recruit that way? Sounds about as credible as Leo & Jeffery being suspended Saturday.

Please help me understand something. Is it illegal to vedio tape someone without there knowledge? Also, I know I saw Leo and Jeffery play Saturday. So the new narrative is that Leo is on tape busting us? Hell, it does not take much to confuse me, but this is unreal.

Dawgology
11-21-2016, 10:13 AM
It's aimed at instate recruiting too I would expect. See, THEY are going to be in trouble too, that kind of thing.

Here is something tsun needs to remember. They are caught....red-handed. It's over before it's started for them. They will try to tattle on everyone but nothing....NOTHING....any other institution has done comes CLOSE to what they have been doing the past 4 years. I doubt very seriously the NCAA will give any credence to the crap they are going to start spewing because they will know it for what it is just like everyone else...bull crap. Maybe they if they had actually REALLY cooperated (not just said they were) and actually showed some deference to the NCAA (as opposed to rubbing their cheating in the face of the NCAA, AD denying the NCAA investigation, attacking them on twitter, and making threats) then someone would have listened. They can sling all the mud they want to but they have burned their bridges. It's over for them.

starkvegasdawg
11-21-2016, 10:13 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

Amen. They have these tapes like they have the opportunity fund paperwork for mama Tunsil's light bill. Let's all grab a beer and see which one they produce first.

Coursesuper
11-21-2016, 10:14 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

It would be chronically stupid to video anything pertaining to coaches meeting with a prospective recruit. They are arrogant egotistical pricks but the ones in charge can't be that stupid.

Dawgology
11-21-2016, 10:14 AM
Please help me understand something. Is it illegal to vedio tape someone without there knowledge? Also, I know I saw Leo and Jeffery play Saturday. So the new narrative is that Leo is on tape busting us? Hell, it does not take much to confuse me, but this is unreal.

I think its legal. As long as one person in the conversation knows it's being recorded the others don't have to know.

BeastMan
11-21-2016, 10:15 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

Exactly. The truth is that they are afraid to go after the institutions that really turned them in (FSU, UGA, & Bama). Also Tunsil's draft night deal.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
11-21-2016, 10:19 AM
According to several Ole Miss sites they have recordings of one of our players speaking to Ole Miss recruiters well before he signed with State.....

Just keep that in mind you athletes that are considering Ole Miss. They are not secretly recording you to help you. It's called black mail.

This is just the next stage in the process of accepting wrong doing. The deflect and cast blame on someone else. Classic spoiled little brat move.

TrapGame
11-21-2016, 10:20 AM
This tells me that OM is getting the worst of this ordeal. The NCAA is not holding back this time. We are looking at sanctions that approach death penalty level.

Really Clark?
11-21-2016, 10:21 AM
Please help me understand something. Is it illegal to vedio tape someone without there knowledge? Also, I know I saw Leo and Jeffery play Saturday. So the new narrative is that Leo is on tape busting us? Hell, it does not take much to confuse me, but this is unreal.

It's not illegal just to tape in that type of situation. The use of it could very well be illegal depending on what you do with it. It would also be fought over whether it would be admissible in a court proceeding. Most of the time it would be thrown out.

confucius say
11-21-2016, 10:36 AM
In miss, as long as one person involved in the conversation knows it is being recorded, it's legal. We are a "one person notice" state. We are only 1 of like 4 states where this applies.

Political Hack
11-21-2016, 10:43 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

100% agree. And even if they do they haven't checked with their lawyers yet about how my shit they'd be in for this. If I was Leo, I'd have an attorney on the way to Oxford right now and if they get videos of recruits through a subpoena, I'd go ahead and make more $ of off that than they were offering to pay him in the first place.

Remember when they said they had tapes of me? Same BS company line. They "had me" on the "entire DL" and about a dozen other players. "It's on tape." Complete and utter BS. Same thing here.

Political Hack
11-21-2016, 10:44 AM
In miss, as long as one person involved in the conversation knows it is being recorded, it's legal. We are a "one person notice" state. We are only 1 of like 4 states where this applies.

That's not the issue. Extortion and blackmail are the issues. That's legit jail time for everyone involved. Even the yahoo's posting about it on the Internet with knowledge of a crime. If they don't cooperate, they'd be hung up too.

I honestly hope they did this. It would be a DEATH PENALTY they impose on themseleves. There's not a recruit in America that would go to school there after that.

If y'all have screen shots of that shit, get it out there. Social media. On the sites. Newspapers. Billboards. Everywhere. It'll cost them a lot more than $5-$10k to get a kid to visit campus from now on.

Op4isabitch
11-21-2016, 11:45 AM
Exactly. The truth is that they are afraid to go after the institutions that really turned them in (FSU, UGA, & Bama). Also Tunsil's draft night deal.

Don't forget Michigan, from what I understand they are as pissed at TCUN as any Southern school.

Spiderman
11-21-2016, 11:49 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

Yep

confucius say
11-21-2016, 11:58 AM
That's not the issue. Extortion and blackmail are the issues. That's legit jail time for everyone involved. Even the yahoo's posting about it on the Internet with knowledge of a crime. If they don't cooperate, they'd be hung up too.

I honestly hope they did this. It would be a DEATH PENALTY they impose on themseleves. There's not a recruit in America that would go to school there after that.

If y'all have screen shots of that shit, get it out there. Social media. On the sites. Newspapers. Billboards. Everywhere. It'll cost them a lot more than $5-$10k to get a kid to visit campus from now on.

I don't disagree. I just posted that bc people above asked about the legality of recording without other party's knowledge

spiral
11-21-2016, 12:13 PM
I hope they are taping recruits. If there is one tape then how many more tapes are there? Do you think they want all the tapes released? It would be like setting off a self destruct button opening that can of worms.

Plus, what recruit wants to visit a school that secretly tapes them?

TrapGame
11-21-2016, 12:23 PM
Is Yancy in a closet filming these recruits in his underwear?

Johnson85
11-21-2016, 12:39 PM
I think its legal. As long as one person in the conversation knows it's being recorded the others don't have to know.

In most states, this is correct. As long as one participant knows, it's ok. In some states, both parties to a conversation have to be made aware of the recording or it's illegal.

Mutt the Hoople
11-21-2016, 01:58 PM
OM is just into taping underaged boys.

msstate7
11-21-2016, 02:01 PM
In most states, this is correct. As long as one participant knows, it's ok. In some states, both parties to a conversation have to be made aware of the recording or it's illegal.

Would there be a problem if the party being recorded was underage?

Liverpooldawg
11-21-2016, 02:17 PM
Would there be a problem if the party being recorded was underage?

I dabble in photography. The law there is if you are in a public place a photographer does NOT have to have permission to take a photo. This includes private property where the public goes, so long as the owner of the property doesn't ban it. If it's in a place where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy you do have to have permission. There are a lot of grey areas involved obviously. When it comes to underage kids the law is the same. It would depend on where it occurred. If it's in someone's living room there could be legal trouble over the images, underage or not. Now if you DO get caught in one of the grey areas and it's a minor there tends to be less leeway given. If it's an obvious no shoot zone and it's a kid and the parent has a problem with it, you are in trouble. I have no idea about the audio portion.

TrapGame
11-21-2016, 02:41 PM
I dabble in photography. The law there is if you are in a public place a photographer does NOT have to have permission to take a photo. This includes private property where the public goes, so long as the owner of the property doesn't ban it. If it's in a place where you have a reasonable expectation of privacy you do have to have permission. There are a lot of grey areas involved obviously. When it comes to underage kids the law is the same. It would depend on where it occurred. If it's in someone's living room there could be legal trouble over the images, underage or not. Now if you DO get caught in one of the grey areas and it's a minor there tends to be less leeway given. If it's an obvious no shoot zone and it's a kid and the parent has a problem with it, you are in trouble. I have no idea about the audio portion.

So....this could possibly go into a criminal court where the prosecution would have discovery and the Network's recruiting blueprint would be presented for all the world to see?

starkvegasdawg
11-21-2016, 02:46 PM
You have to love it when idiot bears try to make a threat to cause us to be scared and all it does is end up digging their grave that much deeper.

Hey, Barney? How are those salad tossing skills? Sounds like you may need them.

http://i.imgur.com/YndYZ5Q.gif

louisvilledawg
11-21-2016, 03:34 PM
You have to love it when idiot bears try to make a threat to cause us to be scared and all it does is end up digging their grave that much deeper.

Hey, Barney? How are those salad tossing skills? Sounds like you may need them.

http://i.imgur.com/YndYZ5Q.gif

Some things can't be unseen

Commercecomet24
11-21-2016, 04:11 PM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

Very Well Said!

SheltonChoked
11-21-2016, 04:16 PM
How long does it take to get an FOI for the tapes?

Dawgcentral
11-21-2016, 07:08 PM
Is Yancy in a closet filming these recruits in his underwear?

It's Mrs Yancy's underwear.

EAVdog
11-21-2016, 08:47 PM
Yes, I'm sure Ole Miss has tapes that show them blatantly cheating and want to turn them over to the NCAA. Because that would somehow help their cause?

One of the most idiotic attempts at spin I've heard in forever.

Dawgology
11-21-2016, 09:15 PM
Yes, I'm sure Ole Miss has tapes that show them blatantly cheating and want to turn them over to the NCAA. Because that would somehow help their cause?

One of the most idiotic attempts at spin I've heard in forever.

Exactly. This is the kind of stuff you get when someone is caught red handed. They start throwing out a bunch of crap in their panic to save themselves and typically just dig the hole deeper.

blacklistedbully
11-21-2016, 09:49 PM
A) Highly doubt there is any video that incriminates us.
B) Even if there were...if OM released that, I'm pretty sure they could kiss their SEC membership goodbye. NO WAY the SEC would allow them to stay a member if they pulled that crap. They weren't at all happy with the way OM did that with The Kang

On another note...the idea that we cheat just the same as they do is ludicrous. All one has to do is look at our recruiting rankings as compared to our on-field results. They are the only school that suddenly vaulted to the top of recruiting rankings without much on-field success. Our recruiting rankings themselves seem to show we're not out there buying recruits like they are.

anubus
11-21-2016, 10:44 PM
NCAA put these bastards outta business.....PLEASE.

WSOPdawg
11-21-2016, 11:09 PM
This tells me that OM is getting the worst of this ordeal. The NCAA is not holding back this time. We are looking at sanctions that approach death penalty level.

Booyah!!! That's what I'm talking about Trap!!! Rep given, brother. =D

dawgoneyall
11-21-2016, 11:16 PM
According to several Ole Miss sites they have recordings of one of our players speaking to Ole Miss recruiters well before he signed with State.....

Just keep that in mind you athletes that are considering Ole Miss. They are not secretly recording you to help you. It's called black mail.

If true ole miss can kiss recruiting goodbye regardless of the NCAA. Recruits would avoid them like the plague.

InTheIttaBenaHotSun
11-22-2016, 12:03 AM
Don't forget Michigan, from what I understand they are as pissed at TCUN as any Southern school.

I'm thinking A&M and probably Oklahoma are pissed as well with the recruitment of Greg Little.

BossDawg
11-22-2016, 05:39 AM
I'll be the 1 to say it. This is pure BS & they don't have any tapes or anything. Just another in the long line of lies they tell to make themselves feel better. Now that they realize they are really in trouble these type of stories will pop up from everywhere to make MSU fans nervous because they're about to get hammered.

This. You have to remember, these people have gone psychotic. At this point (like everything else) they have to drag State down with them so they'll feel better. They don't have a clue which way is up right now.

starkvegasdawg
11-22-2016, 08:05 AM
This. You have to remember, these people have gone psychotic. At this point (like everything else) they have to drag State down with them so they'll feel better. They don't have a clue which way is up right now.

The NCAA is about to give them a real good clue as to which way is up because that is the direction their boot is going up their ass.

Dawgology
11-22-2016, 08:42 AM
This. You have to remember, these people have gone psychotic. At this point (like everything else) they have to drag State down with them so they'll feel better. They don't have a clue which way is up right now.

True or not you have Ole Miss fans indicating that coaches have secret recording of players meeting with coaches. I, honestly, think making a statement like this does more harm to their recruiting than the NCAA investigation has. If true then it's a deplorable act of blackmail; if false it's a REALLY stupid statement to make. If this "fact" that ole miss fans are floating out there about secret recordings were propagated among recruits...well...that'd be bad.