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Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 12:59 PM
Fitz is having a really bad game. He is missing reads and checks right and left. Wish we had a Check Down Charlie.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 12:59 PM
Ross losing money again
msstate7
11-12-2016, 12:59 PM
Fitz is throwing against air & missing wide open guys
That was a miss? Jeez
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 12:59 PM
That was weak Fred
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 12:59 PM
Fred Ross did not want to catch that ball. He was ****ing afraid to get hit. A football player. Didn't want to get hit.
Want to pull a major upset, gotta make plays like that. Fitz couldn't have thrown it any better. Help your QB, catch the damn ball.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
Fitz is having a really bad game. He is missing reads and checks right and left. Wish we had a Check Down Charlie.
Not really. He's playing fine. It's just magnified because you have to play perfectly against this team.
He's made some really nice throws that are big gains against any other team
Saltydog
11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
drops, him or Myles.
starkvegasdawg
11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
Game thread needs to be changed to missed opportunities.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
Mother**** our receivers are not helping Fitz at all when he actually makes a correct read. Ross & Dear make a play it's 17-14 right now.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
Yeah, we would have a chance with someone who can do more then one read. It sucks becUse we should be in this game.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:00 PM
It would be amazing to see if Bama could win against an opponent being given a fair shake.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
Ross heard foot steps and got scared. You could see it on the field..... great pass
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
The rest of the conference should just refuse to show up & play them. Not sure how else anything will get fixed.
Bama can't be a part of this conference if the other teams refuse to show up & put up with this shit. It's embarrassing to college football
Ugh, no. You show up and you play. That's just ridiculous.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
Refs also missed a hand to the face by their DE there. Terrible no call
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
Want to pull a major upset, gotta make plays like that. Fitz couldn't have thrown it any better. Help your QB, catch the damn ball.
This. Holy 17
Really Clark?
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
The play calls have been on point a lot offensively. Fitz has enough time to look off if one guy, he just doesn't trust he does. And a few drops. The plays are their and this is not a scared game plan. At all.
DudyDawg
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
Should be 10-3, maybe even 10-10 with a decent kicker and more than 17 yard punt. Two touchdown passes gone by the wayside. Blowout coming now
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:01 PM
Mother**** our receivers are not helping Fitz at all when he actually makes a correct read. Ross & Dear make a play it's 17-14 right now.
Correct. Or he could have thrown to the wide open receiver on those plays and it's still 17-14.
parabrave
11-12-2016, 01:02 PM
OK Fred you are going to have to go up and get that ball.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
Ugh, no. You show up and you play. That's just ridiculous.
Ok, then we'll all just continue to get our ass whipped for the next 40 years like we have the previous 40. If your OK with that, then by all means keep showing up.
Someone has to protest the officiating & rules to allow their kickoff team to have more talent than any other full team
DudyDawg
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
Throw your shoulder into the ground Richie I'm sure that will bring him down.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
I hate this ****ing game. Holds holds holds galore.
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
This started with the first series with the defense, they are getting hit not hitting anyone.
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
Not really. He's playing fine. It's just magnified because you have to play perfectly against this team.
He's made some really nice throws that are big gains against any other team
No he isn't. He is staring down receivers and missing checks. He is getting better about that but he still does it way to often.
civildawg
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
Changing the channel. Defense gives no effort at all
starkvegasdawg
11-12-2016, 01:03 PM
That's it. I'm out. I'll check back in on the game later. Maybe.
BankerDog
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
Peters and Bryant are busts
That's just stupid to say that. You can't hype up guys like we do as a fanbase that come from 2A and 3A schools. Recruits in MS have to redshirt to be able to play the in SEC because they literally play out of position in HS and none of them have coaches who really know how to develop the talent compared to the coaching you get in AL, LA. There is a reason Coach MO told Buckley to take Peters because he couldn't do anything with him at safety (He couldn't catch on to the concepts)
What they lack right now, which shouldn't be acceptable, is the effort they're showing.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
We are a weak team..... they're pushing us around.
DudyDawg
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
Ok, then we'll all just continue to get our ass whipped for the next 40 years like we have the previous 40. If your OK with that, then by all means keep showing up.
Someone has to protest the officiating & rules to allow their kickoff team to have more talent than any other full team
Get over it. You sound like a ****ing 5 year old throwing a grocery store tantrum
I seen it dawg
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
Lack of heart starts at the top
Roy Munson
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
Pusssy
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
I am embarrassed to say I am a Mississippi state football fan. You suck mullen. You are a thief and a fraud.
Red Sox Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
No chance against these guys. They are a different level. I want to see if we keep fighting.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
Buncha quitters. Richie Brown = quitter, JT Gray = Quitter, Jamal Peters = Quitter, Brandon Bryant = Quitter
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
There was a big hold that broke the play to get it to first and goal. Do officials even call holds anymore?
LC Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
I was hoping this wouldn't be 60-0 but sadly it is. I hope they run the clock the entire second half.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
It damn sure won't ever happen if people don't fixate on it
Auburn gonna stop playing Bama? Tennessee gonna stop playing Bama? Old Misses gonna stop playing Bama? LSU gonna stop playing Bama? aTm gonna stop playing Bama? Arkansas gonna stop playing Bama?
It is NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN!! Drop it permanently
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:04 PM
No chance against these guys. They are a different level. I want to see if we keep fighting.
Bullshit. Our players aren't held accountable.
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:05 PM
Changing the channel. Defense gives no effort at all
They quit on that series.
preachermatt83
11-12-2016, 01:05 PM
Gerri green is just not what he was billed to be.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:05 PM
Get over it. You sound like a ****ing 5 year old throwing a grocery store tantrum
So your ok with current rules?
you realize we NEVER have realistic chance with this structure
Dawgface
11-12-2016, 01:05 PM
Oh well.....onto something else. I've seen enough.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:05 PM
I am embarrassed to say I am a Mississippi state football fan. You suck mullen. You are a thief and a fraud.
Missed you last week
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:06 PM
No flags on Bama thus far.
I'm sure they are playing perfect
parabrave
11-12-2016, 01:06 PM
I was hoping this wouldn't be 60-0 but sadly it is. I hope they run the clock the entire second half.
They been doing it the last 6 years.
DoctorDawg
11-12-2016, 01:06 PM
I would like to see Bamas O-line play with their hands taped closed.
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:06 PM
Ok, then we'll all just continue to get our ass whipped for the next 40 years like we have the previous 40. If your OK with that, then by all means keep showing up.
Someone has to protest the officiating & rules to allow their kickoff team to have more talent than any other full team
You don't wimp out. You show up and play.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:06 PM
So your ok with current rules?
you realize we NEVER have realistic chance with this structure
I've never met a fan base that was so excited about the future of getting their ass kicked every November. This isn't football. The product of college football sucks
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 01:07 PM
Buncha quitters. Richie Brown = quitter, JT Gray = Quitter, Jamal Peters = Quitter, Brandon Bryant = Quitter
They're quitters but we shouldn't show up? Please elaborate.
Effort isn't there but that's not a completely new phenomenon this season.
MaroonFlounder
11-12-2016, 01:07 PM
Who's the moron that said our receivers aren't getting separation? We've had open receivers. Fitz goes to the LOS knowing exactly who he is throwing to. No progression. Eyeballs his primary receiver. He's still the guy tho. Just not going to become a complete QB this year at all.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:07 PM
They quit on that series.
Maybe the secondary but how are you able to get to the QB when they don't just hold you but are locking you up and ripping our DLs jersey on the holds? It's ridiculous.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:07 PM
You don't wimp out. You show up and play.
Go ahead macho man. Think with your brain & not your pride
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:08 PM
Missed you last week
I was at the beach and didn't give a damn either way. Should have gone back this week.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:09 PM
Ok, then we'll all just continue to get our ass whipped for the next 40 years like we have the previous 40. If your OK with that, then by all means keep showing up.
Someone has to protest the officiating & rules to allow their kickoff team to have more talent than any other full team
Saban isn't going to coach till he's 120 years old dude. He is the problem not Bama. He is UConn Women's basketball.
preachermatt83
11-12-2016, 01:09 PM
One thing we Do have is a Running back.
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:10 PM
So your ok with current rules?
you realize we NEVER have realistic chance with this structure
Why don't you go complain to the NCAA? Maybe they will give you a safe space from the mean old bully Saban. Maybe holding your breath till you pass out in the lobby of NCAA headquarters will work. You show up, you play the game, and you do what you can. That's what men do.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:10 PM
Williams has had some tough runs today. Taking a step forward
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:10 PM
I was at the beach and didn't give a damn either way. Should have gone back this week.
You have impeccable timing on your vacations... play well -- on vacation, get beat -- on ED
DudyDawg
11-12-2016, 01:11 PM
I've never met a fan base that was so excited about the future of getting their ass kicked every November. This isn't football. The product of college football sucks
Then turn your tv to golf or go cut your lawn
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:11 PM
Farrod Green is going to be a really good player for us
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 01:12 PM
Any mention of who is calling the plays today?
Red Sox Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:12 PM
Who's the moron that said our receivers aren't getting separation? We've had open receivers. Fitz goes to the LOS knowing exactly who he is throwing to. No progression. Eyeballs his primary receiver. He's still the guy tho. Just not going to become a complete QB this year at all.
Look Richard, or Dick for short, you don't have to call names. We have had a lot of guys covered. Loosing brings out the worst in some of you guys.
fader2103
11-12-2016, 01:12 PM
Then turn your tv to golf or go cut your lawn
Don't have to cut my lawn. It hasn't rained in over a month.
MaroonFlounder
11-12-2016, 01:12 PM
I'd be willing to bet that Shotgun never attends a single game. Couch critic.
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:12 PM
I thought Mullen was handing play calls off to Johnson this week. Why is he calling plays?
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Ross just got mugged. DB grabbed him in his break
DudyDawg
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
I feel like I'm listening to the Alabama radio network with the broadcast.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
How was that not interference on 28?
MaroonFlounder
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Look Richard, or Dick for short, you don't have to call names. We have had a lot of guys covered. Loosing brings out the worst in some of you guys.
Loosing? GFY you uneducated idiot.
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Don't have to cut my lawn. It hasn't rained in over a month.
Proper irrigation is vital to the health of your lawn.
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Maybe the secondary but how are you able to get to the QB when they don't just hold you but are locking you up and ripping our DLs jersey on the holds? It's ridiculous.
They quit period, no effort.
DudyDawg
11-12-2016, 01:13 PM
Don't have to cut my lawn. It hasn't rained in over a month.
Haha true. Maybe a rain dance is in order then.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:14 PM
Ross just got mugged. DB grabbed him in his break
Yeah, against normal teams that is interference.
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:14 PM
You have impeccable timing on your vacations... play well -- on vacation, get beat -- on ED
You and Mullen will get a break next weekend.
preachermatt83
11-12-2016, 01:14 PM
Why do we show such great fight on offense and absolutely no effort at all on D?
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:14 PM
Go ahead macho man. Think with your brain & not your pride
I've been there man, played on an 0-10 team in high school. You show up and do what you can. You don't retreat to a safe space and whine about how cruel the world is. Quit embarrassing us.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:15 PM
You have impeccable timing on your vacations... play well -- on vacation, get beat -- on ED
Yea mods can we get an IP check of Pooplectic, very Bearish scent to him
fader2103
11-12-2016, 01:15 PM
I actually am enjoying the defensive play calling today except for the first drive. Players were in great positions to make plays. Just no effort by players and the no calls for Bama is showing.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:15 PM
As bad as the score looks, the only thing I'm terribly upset about is our 2nd level tackling. Our DBs simply have no interest in tackling whatsoever.
We've ran the ball at times, we've pass blocked decently well, Fitz has made some nice passes, & we've gotten a little bit of pressure on the QB. All those things give us a chance against every other college team.
Our Secondary tackling is atrocious though. Just embarrassing
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:16 PM
I've been there man, played on an 0-10 team in high school. You show up and do what you can. You don't retreat to a safe space and whine about how cruel the world is. Quit embarrassing us.
Big difference between this & an 0-10 team.
Your 0-10 team sucked. We don't suck. We are playing a non-college football team
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:16 PM
Fact of the matter is the best way to beat Alabama is to throw the football. Fitz isn't developed enough to take advantage of Alabama's weakness on defense.
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:17 PM
We are the arm tacklingest team I've ever seen.
Offshore Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:17 PM
Does Fitz need contacts, he has failed to see wide open receivers for touchdowns
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:17 PM
Why is Bryant on the field? He let a qb run right by him
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:18 PM
Our defense isn't even trying.
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:18 PM
Yea mods can we get an IP check of Pooplectic, very Bearish scent to him
Sigh!!!
I can't handle the truth it must be a rebel!!!
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:18 PM
DB tackling again. Rayford
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:18 PM
As bad as the score looks, the only thing I'm terribly upset about is our 2nd level tackling. Our DBs simply have no interest in tackling whatsoever.
We've ran the ball at times, we've pass blocked decently well, Fitz has made some nice passes, & we've gotten a little bit of pressure on the QB. All those things give us a chance against every other college team.
Our Secondary tackling is atrocious though. Just embarrassing
Yep. While I hate losing, I just don't have it in me to get emotional about Bama skulldragging us. They're just better than everyone else.
And look at Smokey showing some speed and heart to track down Hurd.
preachermatt83
11-12-2016, 01:18 PM
Smokey is one of the only guys in the secondary who gives effort
Saltydog
11-12-2016, 01:19 PM
NT
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:19 PM
Buncha quitters. Richie Brown = quitter, JT Gray = Quitter, Jamal Peters = Quitter, Brandon Bryant = Quitter
Really? And who is it demanding that we not even show up and play? They are at least out there getting beat up by the best team in the country. You voided any right you had to to call anyone a quitter today .
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:19 PM
Good idea coach. Blitz Bryant because hes worthless in coverage
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:20 PM
Fitz should never be allowed to throw to his primary receiver till he decides he'd like to actually read the play then decide.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:20 PM
I laugh every time Kiffin gets credit for "opening up" the Alabama offense.
I mean, I dipshit could call plays for these guys.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:20 PM
Sigh!!!
I can't handle the truth it must be a rebel!!!
There's plenty of ripping us here everyday, but you only show up to rip. Lots of us rip, but we actually show up to compliment too.
RocketDawg
11-12-2016, 01:21 PM
Saban's going to quit scoring pretty soon. Probably at about 34 or 41-0.
I think even he and the fans get tired of hearing that elephant bleat.
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:21 PM
There's plenty of ripping us here everyday, but you only show up to rip. Lots of us rip, but we actually show up to compliment too.
Bingo. And admitted he didn't care about us winning last week.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:22 PM
Ross is scared
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:22 PM
Big difference between this & an 0-10 team.
Your 0-10 team sucked. We don't suck. We are playing a non-college football team
Yep we sucked in comparison to who we played, sucked bad. We still showed up for every game, including the then equivalent of Alabama in our class in Mississippi football. They beat our dang brains in. This MSU team, and a whole bunch of others, sucks compared to this Bama team. Bama is a college football team. The Browns would wipe the field with them.
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 01:22 PM
CATCH THE DAMN BALL ROSS
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:22 PM
Man Ross having a shitty day today.
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:22 PM
Ross sucks so hard today. Can we just stop throwing to him?
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:22 PM
Ross losing money again.
The first tape NFL scouts will watch is the Bama tape
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:23 PM
Donald Gray with his annual drops against Bama
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 01:23 PM
How many times can we drop a ball that's perfectly thrown damn. Great ball there
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:23 PM
Drop pass Ross. Drop pass Gray. Our WR's suck
RocketDawg
11-12-2016, 01:23 PM
Ross is scared
I think he must be. At least nervous.
We have actually continued improve imo. When your defense has been on the field as long as ours has your gonna have some guys look like they quit because they are gassed . If our wr would help fitz out a little we would have scored some. Anyone thinking we were going to walk it to Tuscaloosa and win just are not sane.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:24 PM
There's only a few of us State fans here. We usually have more travel for this game.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:24 PM
Man, this reminds me of the LSU game as shitty as Fitz and our receivers are playing.
Red Sox Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:24 PM
Loosing? GFY you uneducated idiot.
Look, I don't know why you are angry but if it makes you feel better to call me names then so be it. Makes you look real mature.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:24 PM
Drop pass Ross. Drop pass Gray. Our WR's suck
We need taller WRs.
That's the number 1 thing that allows Ole Miss to score on Bama. They are tall receivers that can go up & get it.
With small receivers, our margin for error is way too small
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:24 PM
Fitz has already thrown it 17 times today. That's wayyyyyy too much.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:25 PM
I think fitz has been pretty good today. He's certainly missed some reads, but he's been pretty accurate. I'm encouraged by fitz's passing today
LC Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:25 PM
When our defensive coaches watch film with our players do they just hold hands with them and tell them they love them? Do we hand out participation trophies?
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:25 PM
I think he must be. At least nervous.
No he's scared..... he's not attempting to block on run plays or anything. It's visible watching at the game.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:26 PM
over/under Fitz IQ is 100
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:26 PM
We need taller WRs.
That's the number 1 thing that allows Ole Miss to score on Bama. They are tall receivers that can go up & get it.
With small receivers, our margin for error is way too small
Couch is sitting pretty tall on the bench
TNDawg35
11-12-2016, 01:26 PM
There's only a few of us State fans here. We usually have more travel for this game.
Not that anyone is looking for me, but Im gutting a deer.
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:27 PM
I think fitz has been pretty good today. He's certainly missed some reads, but he's been pretty accurate. I'm encouraged by fitz's passing today
6/17 is pretty accurate? Yes, I realize he's had a bunch of drops. But the numbers are what they are.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:27 PM
perfect pass protection for 3 straight plays, two good throws, & no yards.
Our problem against Bama is that the speed of the game increases & our players don't adjust. It throws us out of our comfort zone. Everything happens quicker.
It's the same thing that happens to baseball players when they go pro. The game itself doesn't really change, it just speeds up & you have to adapt
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:27 PM
Bingo. And admitted he didn't care about us winning last week.
Ban me please. I've wasted too much time on the this team already. If they don't care why should I.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:27 PM
over/under Fitz IQ is 100
He's not exceptionally smart. It's his biggest weakness.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:28 PM
We need taller WRs.
That's the number 1 thing that allows Ole Miss to score on Bama. They are tall receivers that can go up & get it.
With small receivers, our margin for error is way too small
To be fair we should be starting Bear Wilson and Fred Brown right now
LC Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:29 PM
over/under Fitz IQ is 100
Chad Kelly's is 56 and he's done ok against Bama.
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:29 PM
To be fair we should be starting Bear Wilson and Fred Brown right now
Yep. Those two losses were devastating.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:29 PM
They're playing with us now.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:29 PM
6/17 is pretty accurate? Yes, I realize he's had a bunch of drops. But the numbers are what they are.
Best defense he'll face this year and maybe his career... fitz has had 3 huge drops (2 ross, 1 gray). Catch those and fitz has very good numbers.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:29 PM
Their guy motions to the outside, no one goes with him, & they throw it to him for a 1st down.
That's non-competitive football. That's kids not knowing what they are doing
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:29 PM
So the guy goes in motion and the D never shifts???? Wth???
Saltydog
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
NT
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
I wanna see Tiano play the entire 2nd half. We aint winning this game, let's get Tiano some snaps.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
Best tackle of Bryant's career
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
Peters is not a db
RocketDawg
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
Chad Kelly's is 56 and he's done ok against Bama.
BS. It's not that high ....
Homedawg
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
6/17 is pretty accurate? Yes, I realize he's had a bunch of drops. But the numbers are what they are.
He supposed to catch it for them? Yes he's had some bad throws but we've dropped at least 4 and 2 were for huge gains. Can't miss those
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:30 PM
I wanna see Tiano play the entire 2nd half. We aint winning this game, let's get Tiano some snaps.
Not a bad idea. Also ensures that Fitz stays healthy
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:31 PM
Someone should put together a tackling instruction video for defensive coaches to use to teach high school kids. You need only use live game clips from Alabama's OL for demonstrations.
RocketDawg
11-12-2016, 01:32 PM
NT
Hard to blame them. The only players less than 4* on the field are on our team. We're basically playing an NFL team.,
RocketDawg
11-12-2016, 01:32 PM
Not a bad idea. Also ensures that Fitz stays healthy
Agree.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:32 PM
Defense has played fairly well today. We just don't have db's or tenacity. We look like we are playing scared.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:33 PM
Bama is stupid to continue to run hurts in games like this. Only thing that stops them from at least making playoffs is hurts getting hurt
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:33 PM
Chad Kelly's is 56 and he's done ok against Bama.
I laughed but Kelly doesn't do things on the field that make me think he's stupid he does them off the field. Fitz is the exact opposite.
I seen it dawg
11-12-2016, 01:33 PM
Loosing? GFY you uneducated idiot.
Really? Get a ****ing grip on yourself.
fader2103
11-12-2016, 01:34 PM
So the guy goes in motion and the D never shifts???? Wth???
Means the D is in Zone not man coverage
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:34 PM
Bryant was yelling at McLauring for missing Ridley in the middle there. At least the qb didn't see him
War Machine Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:35 PM
Best defense he'll face this year and maybe his career... fitz has had 3 huge drops (2 ross, 1 gray). Catch those and fitz has very good numbers.
That would be 9/17, 52.9%. That isn't very good. And he missed the next pass, so it would still be 9/18 for an even 50%. That is definitely not "very good" for a QB. Pull off the maroon colored glasses. Fitz has done ok, but he hasn't played well enough to keep it close much less win.
He's young and improving, but he's still got a long way to go developmentally. The good news is that he seems to want to work to improve and reach his potential. He might have more raw tools than Dak. He's light years ahead of where he was against USA already. It's up to him to decide just how good he wants to be, because he has arguably the best QB developer in CFB as his HC.
RocketDawg
11-12-2016, 01:35 PM
Bama is stupid to continue to run hurts in games like this. Only thing that stops them from at least making playoffs is hurts getting hurt
Yeah, that's true. Probably have seen the last of him in the game after this FG.
And speaking of FGs ... why does this guy make them against us, and miss them against everybody else??
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:36 PM
If we don't have an offsides, they aren't driving here. I hate how Alabama is able to get away with playing a true freshman QB which I say will cost them a national championship (and I still hold that opinion). We ****ed ourselves when we didn't take advantage of his mistake. I'm predicting now they lose the Iron Bowl because of Hurts mistakes.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:36 PM
I've been playing STEH since mid first quarter and watching Bama OL like a hawk. The findings of my study is that Bama has not run a single play from scrimmage without a hild, sometimes critical. As in they probably have a max of 10 points on the board if the game were called fairly.
maroonwhitedawg3ddd
11-12-2016, 01:36 PM
Pitiful!!!!
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:38 PM
I laughed but Kelly doesn't do things on the field that make me think he's stupid he does them off the field. Fitz is the exact opposite.
The offense at UNM is anything but complicated. It's a high school spread offense with elite receivers.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:38 PM
I've been playing STEH since mid first quarter and watching Bama OL like a hawk. The findings of my study is that Bama has not run a single play from scrimmage without a hild, sometimes critical. As in they probably have a max of 10 points on the board if the game were called fairly.
Agreed. If the game is called fairly last week, they don't score a point against LSU.
defiantdog
11-12-2016, 01:39 PM
I take everything back I've ever said about Fitz. The stage isn't big enough for him and he's making good passes. He has no help around him.
archdog
11-12-2016, 01:41 PM
The first td was a pick play. News flash, that is all they call. Every pass play in the red zone by them is a pick play. Every one of them. No idea why we do not run them.
archdog
11-12-2016, 01:42 PM
I take everything back I've ever said about Fitz. The stage isn't big enough for him and he's making good passes. He has no help around him.
Between 22 not playing the ball and 8 and 6 not catching them when they hit their hands. No idea what to do if our team comes out scared or intimidated.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:42 PM
So is Alabama's OL coach really that good, Cristobal? If he's teaching holding technique like he does at Alabama, his technique would not work at any other school period.
scottycameron
11-12-2016, 01:43 PM
Bama is stupid to continue to run hurts in games like this. Only thing that stops them from at least making playoffs is hurts getting hurt
They be just good without him. Not as good running but better throwing. Saban and Kiffin aren't worried about him getting hurt.
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 01:44 PM
I realize that they have been stocked the last few years with 4 and 5* players by cheating, but UNM shows no fear when playing bama and has either beaten them or came close the last 4 or so years. This lack of fear and belief that they can not only compete but win extends to their players and coaches. Under Mullen, we never even compete against bama, soon to be 8 years and counting. ULM always has that feeling and effort against us also and we will lose #3 in a row against them under Mullen even with Kelly gone. P.S. bama ball carriers must run 3.8 forties as Bryant can't catch them with his 4.2 speed. Ha!
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:44 PM
The offense at UNM is anything but complicated. It's a high school spread offense with elite receivers.
True maybe we should copy their offense then during the Fitz era since he absolutely refuses to scan the field and continues to decide where he's throwing it before the snap. 100% of the time he does this.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:44 PM
The first td was a pick play. News flash, that is all they call. Every pass play in the red zone by them is a pick play. Every one of them. No idea why we do not run them.
Because we are called for pick plays. We didn't even call a pick play and the refs called it on us in one of the previous games this year. Trust me, against Alabama we would be called for it.
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:45 PM
The offense at UNM is anything but complicated. It's a high school spread offense with elite receivers.
Yep
Turfdawg67
11-12-2016, 01:46 PM
6/17 is pretty accurate? Yes, I realize he's had a bunch of drops. But the numbers are what they are.
Haha! That's a strange comment... He throws it to the receiver, the receiver drops it, but it's Fitz' fault? If they catch the damn ball he's 11/17
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 01:46 PM
True maybe we should copy their offense then during the Fitz era since he absolutely refuses to scan the field and continues to decide where he's throwing it before the snap. 100% of the time he does this.
To be fair, Fitz is getting better about this. He still does it much to often.
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:47 PM
True maybe we should copy their offense then during the Fitz era since he absolutely refuses to scan the field and continues to decide where he's throwing it before the snap. 100% of the time he does this.
It is a half the field read. But without those receivers and an well above average college QB that offense is a stinker. We shall see tonight.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:47 PM
They be just good without him. Not as good running but better throwing. Saban and Kiffin aren't worried about him getting hurt.
They were dumb as shit starting Hurts this year to begin with. Blake Barnett fits that offense much better and I guarantee you Hurts doesn't transfer if he didn't get the starting job. I just wish a hubris decision like that by Saban would bite him in the ass which I think it will in the end. But they have so much talent that it really doesn't matter for most of their season.
archdog
11-12-2016, 01:48 PM
Also, can we not take on a block. Looks like all our guys are checking up on defense.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:49 PM
I realize that they have been stocked the last few years with 4 and 5* players by cheating, but UNM shows no fear when playing bama and has either beaten them or came close the last 4 or so years. This lack of fear and belief that they can not only compete but win extends to their players and coaches. Under Mullen, we never even compete against bama, soon to be 8 years and counting. ULM always has that feeling and effort against us also and we will lose #3 in a row against them under Mullen even with Kelly gone. P.S. bama ball carriers must run 3.8 forties as Bryant can't catch them with his 4.2 speed. Ha!
Yes, there is this.....but they do hold on EVERY PLAY. Without those holds today we have at least three sacks that I saw, one probably for a blind side fumble. They are only up 30-0 instead of 10-7 because they hold on EVERY PLAY and NEVER get called for it (nobody expects every hold to get called).
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:50 PM
They be just good without him. Not as good running but better throwing. Saban and Kiffin aren't worried about him getting hurt.
Cooper Bateman would be a pretty big step down. They'd still be very, very good, but there's a reason why Bateman was 3rd string to start the year
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:51 PM
I realize that they have been stocked the last few years with 4 and 5* players by cheating, but UNM shows no fear when playing bama and has either beaten them or came close the last 4 or so years. This lack of fear and belief that they can not only compete but win extends to their players and coaches. Under Mullen, we never even compete against bama, soon to be 8 years and counting. ULM always has that feeling and effort against us also and we will lose #3 in a row against them under Mullen even with Kelly gone. P.S. bama ball carriers must run 3.8 forties as Bryant can't catch them with his 4.2 speed. Ha!
Bullshit on Ole Miss. I think we have a great chance there especially if we beat Arkansas.
DownwardDawg
11-12-2016, 01:53 PM
I see why ole miss gives them such trouble. Pass plays have been there all day. We just don't have a QB or receiving crew that can capitalize. A good passing team would have 14-21 points on Bama right now. It'd be a shootout.
I thought you guys were gonna chill today!?!?! We had zero chance to win this game. Sure, I hate that Fitz is choking today and our defense has looked terrible, but I knew it would be bad. Don't let this game get you all worked up!!!!
Coursesuper
11-12-2016, 01:53 PM
Bullshit on Ole Miss. I think we have a great chance there especially if we beat Arkansas.
If we play defense like we are today, that's getting hit in the mouth and trying to arm tackle them we will not beat Arkansas.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:54 PM
Cooper Bateman would be a pretty big step down. They'd still be very, very good, but there's a reason why Bateman was 3rd string to start the year
Barnett should have started for them this year. Starting Hurts makes them have some glaring weaknesses on offense that LSU was able to exploit. I think Auburn will also exploit those same weaknesses as well. He is not a pocket passer and if you can make him one dimensional like that you shut Alabama's offense down.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:55 PM
If we play defense like we are today, that's getting hit in the mouth and trying to arm tackle them we will not beat Arkansas.
We're fine. They are holding on EVERY PLAY. I challenge you to watch nothing but their OL the rest of this game. We're not going to win anyway. Ole Miss will not get all these noncalls.
This game 10-7 or 10-0 without help from the refs and I'm not one to make such excuses.
Notice I didn't say 10-3 lol. No chance of that.
LC Dawg
11-12-2016, 01:55 PM
I realize that they have been stocked the last few years with 4 and 5* players by cheating, but UNM shows no fear when playing bama and has either beaten them or came close the last 4 or so years. This lack of fear and belief that they can not only compete but win extends to their players and coaches. Under Mullen, we never even compete against bama, soon to be 8 years and counting. ULM always has that feeling and effort against us also and we will lose #3 in a row against them under Mullen even with Kelly gone. P.S. bama ball carriers must run 3.8 forties as Bryant can't catch them with his 4.2 speed. Ha!
Ole Miss getting Bama early in the year helps a lot. If they were playing them today, even with Kelly, it would be 30-10 at the half and 62-24 final. Ole Miss would score but only an Ole Miss fan would think they would be competitive with Bama right now.
HereComesTheSpiral
11-12-2016, 01:56 PM
I'm tired of Bama, cheering for Michigan or Ohio State to wreck them
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 01:56 PM
To be fair, Fitz is getting better about this. He still does it much to often.
He isn't getting better about it at all he is just throwing the ball more accurately. The refusal to stop deciding where he's going pre snap is alive and well. He is refusing the coaching right now. I like Fitz, he's a tough kid, he is super fast and he has a great arm thus why I am so frustrated with him right now because he keeps refusing to listen to the coaching. He's got tons of work to do this off-season. Can we get him one of those virtual reality QB things so he can just watch and read plays for 6 straight months. Please
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 01:56 PM
If we play defense like we are today, that's getting hit in the mouth and trying to arm tackle them we will not beat Arkansas.
Sure but I think the holding not called every play will be called on Arkansas thus negating some of the plays you see so far this first half.
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 01:56 PM
Jackie said that you had to be good enough to beat the refs and the other team, we aren't, apparently against many teams this year, (see USA, BYU, and KY, and these games were lost on many plays not made throughout the games, not just the last play).
Coach007
11-12-2016, 01:57 PM
Personally very happy that we are seeing major sparks playing a lot of a younger guys. Play calling is on...etc. I look forward to next year!
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 01:57 PM
JAKE wimberly not playing scared on twitter today
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 01:58 PM
I realize that they have been stocked the last few years with 4 and 5* players by cheating, but UNM shows no fear when playing bama and has either beaten them or came close the last 4 or so years. This lack of fear and belief that they can not only compete but win extends to their players and coaches. Under Mullen, we never even compete against bama, soon to be 8 years and counting. ULM always has that feeling and effort against us also and we will lose #3 in a row against them under Mullen even with Kelly gone. P.S. bama ball carriers must run 3.8 forties as Bryant can't catch them with his 4.2 speed. Ha!
I think Ole Miss does some things in the way they practice that allows them to operate against Bama. OM runs the hurry up offense, but it's not the actual hurry up offense that get's to Bama, it playing a team that can execute & operate when the game speeds up & chaos ensues, that gets to Bama.
Bama makes you play faster than your normal comfort zone is. It's like a hitter that usually faces 88 mph pitchers going up against a 95 mph pitcher. It's not that the kid can't hit 95 or that he's not talented enough to do so, it's that he never faces it & isn't adjusted to the speed.
Ole Miss practices & plays a style of football that allows them to adjust to 95 mph FBs very quickly. Mullen will have to change the way he practices throughout the year if he wants to ever beat Bama. You must develop a team that is comfortable playing fast
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:59 PM
30-0 and now they call a penalty
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 01:59 PM
Quote, "i just want to see some effort from my guys this half", Dan Mullen. Pitiful.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 01:59 PM
Sure but I think the holding not called every play will be called on Arkansas thus negating some of the plays you see so far this first half.
This. Missed this post before my previous one.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 01:59 PM
JAKE wimberly not playing scared on twitter today
What's he saying?
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 02:00 PM
So Mullen recognizes we're not playing with effort. Unbelievable and he's the damn head coach and does nothing about it
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 02:01 PM
What's he saying?
Calling out effortless D by name
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:01 PM
State battle cry my whole life, we'll be better next year. What about today and this year?
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:02 PM
Anderson was off sides. No call
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 02:03 PM
That's helmet to helmet. Wth!!! Wake up Mullen!!
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:03 PM
Hey, at least Senior clapped his hands in disgust at the hard sack on Fitz and helped him up.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 02:03 PM
Another FG?
Good grief he made it.
#onlywhenit"matters"
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:03 PM
I'll say this, if OL can make progress, I think Fitz can beat Bama. He's got the pocket presence, arm, & a feet to do it.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 02:03 PM
HOLY SHIT HE MADE IT
Turfdawg67
11-12-2016, 02:04 PM
Quote, "i just want to see some effort from my guys this half", Dan Mullen. Pitiful.
Just like most MSU fans. Pitiful.
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:04 PM
Westin Graves, "Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then!" Momentum has swung!
Coach007
11-12-2016, 02:05 PM
Yeah, this team will be contenders net year with LSU and Bama at home.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:05 PM
Hey, at least Senior clapped his hands in disgust at the hard sack on Fitz and helped him up.
That sack was on Fitz. You can't hold on to the damn ball for five seconds against Bama. Run or throw it away.
DownwardDawg
11-12-2016, 02:05 PM
I would challenge that FG! No way Graves made a FG!!!!!!!!
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 02:06 PM
I'll say this, if OL can make progress, I think Fitz can beat Bama. He's got the pocket presence, arm, & a feet to do it.
https://images.rapgenius.com/31a5ddd0eb1687e09467ad1c93102709.250x225x166.gif
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:07 PM
See but that is how you attack Bama. Passing the ball.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:07 PM
And our kicker kicks it out of bounds.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:07 PM
https://images.rapgenius.com/31a5ddd0eb1687e09467ad1c93102709.250x225x166.gif
In a few years of course. Obviously not now
I actually love our play calling today
Coach007
11-12-2016, 02:07 PM
Just like most MSU fans. Pitiful.
Nope. That is what you want to see. You have 2 games left that puts you in a bowl if won. Both are winnable. You do not want to see them quit.
So yeah. You want to see them finish with effort
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 02:08 PM
I'll say this, if OL can make progress, I think Fitz can beat Bama. He's got the pocket presence, arm, & a feet to do it.
His decision making is going to have to get a LOT faster and better. He is progressing a little, but he has a tremendously long way to go.
Liverpooldawg
11-12-2016, 02:08 PM
Nope. That is what you want to see. You have 2 games left that puts you in a bowl if won. Both are winnable. You do not want to see them quit.
So yeah. You want to see them finish with effort
Yep, Mullen said exactly what you should say there.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:08 PM
His decision making is going to have to get a LOT faster and better. He is progressing a little, but he has a tremendously long way to go.
Agree. Just saying he has the skill set.
I could see him lighting them up in the next two years
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:09 PM
3 held.
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 02:09 PM
We still don't know what a TE is for on either side of th3 ball.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:09 PM
3rd & 15 & no one covers OJ Howard on a short throw?
I don't get it. That's not a talent problem
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:10 PM
Oh boy, Hurts just put the Manziel on someone
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:11 PM
Yeah, Hev will replace the 3 Senior linemen on our "young team" this year and the OL will be monsters next year. Not if the country club is still open in 2017.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:11 PM
3rd & 15 & no one covers OJ Howard on a short throw?
I don't get it. That's not a talent problem
Because 3 held. Could have been called a pick play as well.
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:12 PM
Oh boy, Hurts just put the Manziel on someone
And turned it over.
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 02:12 PM
In a few years of course. Obviously not now
I actually love our play calling today
Nah he refuses to stop deciding where he's throwing it pre-snap. I am rooting for Keytaon to start immediately right now till Fitz actually wants to do what he's being told to do.
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 02:13 PM
Turnover! maybe the second half is the half we show up this week. At least get something to build off of going forward
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 02:13 PM
3rd & 15 & no one covers OJ Howard on a short throw?
I don't get it. That's not a talent problem
I'm told that's a zone defense by the coaches on this board.
Leroy Jenkins
11-12-2016, 02:14 PM
All McLaurin does is get the ball. Every week he comes up with one.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:14 PM
All McLaurin does is get the ball. Every week he comes up with one.
The MSU honey badger
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 02:15 PM
OMFG
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:15 PM
Fitz has stared down nearly every receiver today.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 02:16 PM
Don't like fitz getting hit hard
Really Clark?
11-12-2016, 02:16 PM
That was on the receiver. Turn around and we have the first
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:16 PM
Fitz has stared down nearly every receiver today.
Yes, but probably doesn't feel like he has time to go through progressions
Dawg61
11-12-2016, 02:17 PM
Fitz has stared down nearly every receiver today.
Yup even the one that had his back to him and was blocking when he threw it
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:17 PM
I still don't see giving Shump carries this late in the season. Give them to the younger backs.
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 02:18 PM
Great third down call Mullen
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:19 PM
I just find it amazing that Bama can stop the run like that on 3rd & long.
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:19 PM
At least 3 if not 4 OL men were standing straight up and blocking no one on the last run by Dear.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:20 PM
Great third down call Mullen
Well, we've thrown it 20 times in a row on 3rd down. I don't think it's a terrible call. I just think it's amazing that Bama can play the run like that while also covering the pass like they have all day
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:20 PM
Hopefully this doesn't stop our momentum. One thing I would like to ask. Why do we get Alabama this late in the season? How does the SEC decide these things?
Bully13
11-12-2016, 02:20 PM
At this point, why not just go for it on 4th down every time?
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:21 PM
Anyway we can get Senior, Desper, and Claybourne a medical redshirt where they can continue to improve next year under Hev?
RougeDawg
11-12-2016, 02:21 PM
Fitz should grow up a ton after this game. He is getting rid of the ball in time but just not accurate. He's hearing footsteps some passes but this is good for him and will accelerate his learning curve. Let's all just hope he makes it out safely.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:22 PM
WTF?
Statecoachingblows**
11-12-2016, 02:22 PM
So facemask is only a penalty on the defense?
msstate7
11-12-2016, 02:23 PM
Anyway we can get Senior, Desper, and Claybourne a medical redshirt where they can continue to improve next year under Hev?
Clayborn is only one I'm concerned about losing
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:23 PM
Absurd call
MarketingBully
11-12-2016, 02:23 PM
Refs suck suck suck Bama off.
preachermatt83
11-12-2016, 02:23 PM
We are missing Logan Cooke bad. This may be the worst punter I've ever seen
Goldendawg
11-12-2016, 02:23 PM
Hey we had about 4 guys around Stewart on that TD!
msstate7
11-12-2016, 02:24 PM
Perfect time to get fitz out of game. He took a big hit last series
DownwardDawg
11-12-2016, 02:24 PM
So facemask is only a penalty on the defense?
That was a crazy call.
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:24 PM
I tell ya, Peter Sirmon can't get this defense to do anything right.
I'm not sure what the answer is at DC. These guys have no clue
Apoplectic
11-12-2016, 02:25 PM
Hey we had about 4 guys around Stewart on that TD!
Sounds like good zone coverage to me**
BulldogBear
11-12-2016, 02:25 PM
So facemask is only a penalty on the defense?
I've never understood that. It rarely gets called. How is a stiff arm to face mask not a face mask call?
DownwardDawg
11-12-2016, 02:25 PM
Perfect time to get fitz out of game. He took a big hit last series
I agree. Would love to see Tiano but Dan will play Williams probably if he even pulls Fitz.
msstate7
11-12-2016, 02:26 PM
I agree. Would love to see Tiano but Dan will play Williams probably if he even pulls Fitz.
Either backup is fine with me. We're gonna need fitz to carry the ball a lot the next 2 weeks... rest em here
ShotgunDawg
11-12-2016, 02:27 PM
Fitz always throws high.
Not sure why he never misses low.
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