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maroonthruandthru
10-24-2016, 09:45 PM
The enrollment numbers are in to MHSAA form the State Department of Education for the purpose of reclassification. MHSAA sent this email out today--The MHSAA has received school student enrollment totals as of October 1, 2016 from the Mississippi State Department of Education. School enrollments reported to the MDE shall be considered official for classification purposes. These numbers will be used for classification and region placement of member schools for the next two-year period, 2017-18, 2018-19. (MHSAA Handbook, page 12, 8.3.1)
The Executive Committee of the MHSAA will be meeting on November 16, 2016 to approve the overall reclassification of schools and region placement for fall and winter sports for the next two-year period. Classifications and regions will be announced upon approval by the committee.
MHSAA Handbook, Page 12, Article 8.1.3:
The thirty-two (32) member schools with the greatest enrollment in grades 9-12 will be classified as 6A schools. The next 32 schools will be classified as 5A schools. The remaining four classifications will be divided as evenly as possible to contain the same number of schools in each classification. Odd number schools will be placed in Class 1A. In assigning schools to classification, and if two or more schools have the same enrollment for the last place of a class, these schools will be placed in the higher classification for the two-year period. (Refer to page 12-13, Article 8: Classification)
These are the numbers for each school and according to the guidelines provided by MHSAA this is what I have come up with--understand this is not official by any means--just what I came up with, but it should be pretty close.
6A-Tupelo 1991
Southaven 1872
Ocean Springs 1774
Madison Central 1739
Desoto Central 1723
Oak Grove 1686
Harrison Central 1661
Northwest Rankin 1653
Biloxi 1628
Brandon 1575
Gulfport 1535
Clinton 1475
Murrah 1404
Starkville 1401
Meridian 1393
St Martin 1305
Diberville 1286
Greenville 1275
Warren Central 1274
Hancock 1270
Horn Lake 1264
Petal 1234
Terry 1215
Oxford 1198
Jim Hill 1194
George County 1170
South Panola 1167
Pearl 1162
Hernando 1160
Provine 1105
Pascagoula 1100
Columbus 1091
5A-Olive Branch 1080
West Harrison 1079
Germantown 1075
Forest Hill 1074
Callaway 1055
Vicksburg 1043
Grenada 1032
Hattiesburg 1029
Lewisburg 1009
Center Hill 1005
Saltillo 995
Lake Cormorant 981
Cleveland 972
Long Beach 963
Neshoba Central 955
Natchez 945
Wayne County 936
Picayune 932
Pearl River Central 926
Ridgeland 910
West Jones 894
West Point 877
Gautier 859
Canton 834
Laurel 817
South Jones 812
Lafayette 806
Holmes County 787
Stone 774
Brookhaven 756
North Pike 756
Wingfield 751
4A-Northeast Jones 748
Florence 733
East Central 732
Vancleave 726
New Hope 722
McComb 718
Lanier 689
Gentry 669
Clarksdale 659
Pontotoc 651
Greenwood 645
West Lauderdale 633
Raymond 630
Kosciusko Senior 615
NE Lauderdale 614
Corinth 610
Greene County 596
Lawrence County 594
Moss Point 585
Caledonia 585
Purvis 584
Tishomingo Co. 578
Pass Christian 576
Richland 575
Forrest Co. AHS 570
Bay 561
Poplarville 558
Leake Central 551
Itawamba AHS 549
Quitman 544
New Albany 544
Sumrall 541
Mendenhall 540
Yazoo City 540
Newton County 536
Shannon 533
Ripley 519
Rosa Fort 519
Louisville 517
St. Stanislaus 506
Amory 505
Senatobia 505
Byhalia 491
Mooreville 485
Noxubee County 483
South Pike 474
3A-South Pontotoc 473
Yazoo County 468
North Pontotoc 467
Choctaw Central 464
Kossuth 463
Columbia 456
Magee 455
Houston 454
Humphreys County 450
Crystal Springs 446
MS Math & Science 428
Port Gibson 423
Holly Springs 418
Morton 418
Jeff. Davis County 414
Seminary 402
Hazlehurst 400
SE Lauderdale 400
Forest 398
Ruleville Central 396
Tylertown 396
Amanda Elzy 395
Alcorn Central 394
Independence 390
North Panola 378
Jefferson County 374
Nettleton 374
Franklin 372
Booneville 363
West Marion 355
St. Andrew's 353
M. S. Palmer 346
Raleigh 342
Mclaurin 334
Wilkinson County 334
Choctaw County 331
Kemper County 330
Aberdeen 321
Water Valley 319
Charleston 317
Hatley 307
Coahoma AHS 302
Wesson 302
Velma Jackson 302
Belmont 302
J Z George 300
2A-Mantachie 298
New Site 293
Perry Central 290
OLA 290
O'bannon 287
Heidelberg 282
Clarkdale 275
Winona 274
East Webster 271
Enterprise (Clarke) 269
Pisgah 267
Amite County 266
Strayhorn 265
St. Joseph 262
Philadelphia 261
Collins 258
St. Patrick 258
Leland 257
Newton 256
Union 256
South Delta 256
Leflore County 255
Scott Central 254
Bay Springs 252
Loyd Star 252
East Union 249
Coahoma County 241
West Lincoln 240
Eupora 240
Bruce 238
Pelahatchie 237
Enterprise (Lincoln) 236
Puckett 232
North Forrest 227
Baldwyn 226
Richton 224
Calhoun City 222
Mize 220
Walnut 216
Riverside 216
Bogue Chitto 210
West Bolivar 209
Ingomar 207
Lake 203
West Tallahatchie 202
Taylorsville 200
1A-Potts Camp 199
Okolona 198
Sacred Heart 196
Ashland 192
Hamilton 191
Leake County 190
Simmons 189
Stringer 185
East Marion 185
Vardaman 181
Smithville 180
Myrtle 179
French Camp 177
Ethel 176
Sebastopol 173
Pine Grove 171
Resurrection 171
Tupelo Christian 170
Hickory Flat 168
Lumberton 163
Nanih Waiya 161
Falkner 159
West Union 156
H. W. Byers 155
Salem 154
Tremont 148
Shaw 146
John F Kennedy 145
West Lowndes 141
Broad Street 138
Coffeeville 135
Biggersville 134
Noxapater 130
Wheeler 127
Mount Olive 124
Thrasher 121
Houlka 119
McAdams 118
Durant 118
Piney Woods 110
Jumpertown 90
Montgomery Co. 72
Blue Mountain 65
Ray Brooks 55
MS School of Deaf 41

Todd4State
10-25-2016, 12:39 AM
These always interest me for some weird reason. Surprised that Germantown and Olive Branch didn't make the 6A cut.

BrunswickDawg
10-25-2016, 07:53 AM
Wow. I had no idea schools in MS were still so small. I know GA had some ridiculously big schools, but now I see a huge HUGE issue in our recruiting.

For reference here is the GA list of schools and enrollments https://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/executive-committee/Classes_with_Regions_for_2015-17.pdf

Our 2 local schools -Glynn Academy and Brunswick High would be the 2nd and 4th largest schools in MS - and we barely made it into 6A. No way there are enough kids in MS to have 3 D1 programs located in the state. Most of those high schools don't look big enough to even field teams.

Mjoelner34
10-25-2016, 08:24 AM
Wow. I had no idea schools in MS were still so small.

We have to have small schools so we can create twice as many school districts as we need and hire eleventy billion administrators.

ShotgunDawg
10-25-2016, 08:26 AM
Wow. I had no idea schools in MS were still so small. I know GA had some ridiculously big schools, but now I see a huge HUGE issue in our recruiting.

For reference here is the GA list of schools and enrollments https://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/executive-committee/Classes_with_Regions_for_2015-17.pdf

Our 2 local schools -Glynn Academy and Brunswick High would be the 2nd and 4th largest schools in MS - and we barely made it into 6A. No way there are enough kids in MS to have 3 D1 programs located in the state. Most of those high schools don't look big enough to even field teams.


Now you get it. MS actually produces a ton of players per capita though.

Have to recruit out of state.

louisvilledawg
10-25-2016, 08:48 AM
Wow. I had no idea schools in MS were still so small. I know GA had some ridiculously big schools, but now I see a huge HUGE issue in our recruiting.

For reference here is the GA list of schools and enrollments https://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/executive-committee/Classes_with_Regions_for_2015-17.pdf

Our 2 local schools -Glynn Academy and Brunswick High would be the 2nd and 4th largest schools in MS - and we barely made it into 6A. No way there are enough kids in MS to have 3 D1 programs located in the state. Most of those high schools don't look big enough to even field teams.

Yeah, Georgia has ~ 2,000,000 more people in the state than MS. Actually surprised its only 2 million more. Figured it would be closer to 4 or 5

LC Dawg
10-25-2016, 09:06 AM
Wow. I had no idea schools in MS were still so small. I know GA had some ridiculously big schools, but now I see a huge HUGE issue in our recruiting.

For reference here is the GA list of schools and enrollments https://www.ghsa.net/sites/default/files/documents/executive-committee/Classes_with_Regions_for_2015-17.pdf

Our 2 local schools -Glynn Academy and Brunswick High would be the 2nd and 4th largest schools in MS - and we barely made it into 6A. No way there are enough kids in MS to have 3 D1 programs located in the state. Most of those high schools don't look big enough to even field teams.

This is why I always say we shouldn't expect immediate contribution from a lot of the Mississippi kids. Not only is their level of competition often not very good but it's hard to find enough quality coaches for this many schools. A lot of these kids are so much better than their teammates and their opponents that they get by strictly on talent and they don't learn as much as they should about how to play. An SEC caliber player can pretty much dominate most 4A and smaller Mississippi high school games.
Also, I don't know how many on here know this but Bassfield is consolidating with Prentiss next year and they are building a new school in Jeff Davis county. I haven't heard anything about the coaching situation for the new school.

confucius say
10-25-2016, 09:08 AM
These always interest me for some weird reason. Surprised that Germantown and Olive Branch didn't make the 6A cut.

The fact that only grades 9-12 are counted helps Germantown. Their elementary schools and jr high school have more kids per grade than high school (lots of young families in school district).

DawgInMemphis
10-25-2016, 09:27 AM
Yeah, Georgia has ~ 2,000,000 more people in the state than MS. Actually surprised its only 2 million more. Figured it would be closer to 4 or 5

Georgia's population is 7 million more than Mississippi's.

Edited: The greater Atlanta area has roughly twice the population of the entire state of Mississippi.

Beaver
10-25-2016, 02:37 PM
Yeah, Georgia has ~ 2,000,000 more people in the state than MS. Actually surprised its only 2 million more. Figured it would be closer to 4 or 5

This would be true if you took out the all of the metro Atlanta population. The overall population is around 10 million.

M.Fillmore
10-25-2016, 02:44 PM
Bassfield is consolidating with Prentiss next year and they are building a new school in Jeff Davis county. I haven't heard anything about the coaching situation for the new school.

You are right. Also, Lumberton is likely to be phased out, possibly as soon as next year. I wonder what other schools are on the chopping block?

Does anyone know which schools are changing classifications?

LC Dawg
10-25-2016, 03:36 PM
You are right. Also, Lumberton is likely to be phased out, possibly as soon as next year. I wonder what other schools are on the chopping block?

Does anyone know which schools are changing classifications?

Some I noticed from quickly looking at the list are Oxford and Provine to 6A, Forest Hill and Callaway from 6A to 5A, North Pike and Lafayette from 4A to 5A, and Columbia from 4A to 3A. I know that's not all of them and I may be wrong on a couple because I'm going by memory of where the teams are this year.

SheltonChoked
10-25-2016, 03:47 PM
Brunswick, I was about to say the same thing. No wonder we struggle to get big recruits. 137,458 HS students in MS

My oldest's High School here has 3,716 in it. The smallest HS in her district has 545, but it just opened and that's only 9th graders.

The school district has 114,704 in it (CyfairISD), and it's not event the largest one in Houston (HISD has 215,000 students)

On a MS political note, there is no reason for so many small schools. More counties should do what Choctaw County and Starkville did. No reason to have multiple high schools in one county anymore for most of MS.

SheltonChoked
10-25-2016, 03:52 PM
But Brunswick has on 15,000 in the city and 100,000 in the metro area. So again, fewer larger schools. This gives and opportunity for more electives and a better school than a 4-300 person high schools in one county.

BrunswickDawg
10-25-2016, 04:09 PM
But Brunswick has on 15,000 in the city and 100,000 in the metro area. So again, fewer larger schools. This gives and opportunity for more electives and a better school than a 4-300 person high schools in one county.
The only advantage to keeping schools small (from an athletic perspective) is travel. South Georgia has a hard time placing enough teams of similar size in a region that makes sense. Region 1 7A stretches halfway across the entire southern boarder of the state and up to almost Macon - Camden, Colquit, Lowndes, and Tift. That's 2 hours or more by bus from Camden to Tift.

Jack Lambert
10-25-2016, 04:12 PM
Wait until this years 6th grade in the Brandon School Zone are Seniors. Brandon will be a very large school.

WinningIsRelentless
10-25-2016, 04:21 PM
Wait until this years 6th grade in the Brandon School Zone are Seniors. Brandon will be a very large school.

Not nearly as big as northwest 6 grade class.

LC Dawg
10-25-2016, 04:26 PM
Brunswick, I was about to say the same thing. No wonder we struggle to get big recruits. 137,458 HS students in MS

My oldest's High School here has 3,716 in it. The smallest HS in her district has 545, but it just opened and that's only 9th graders.

The school district has 114,704 in it (CyfairISD), and it's not event the largest one in Houston (HISD has 215,000 students)

On a MS political note, there is no reason for so many small schools. More counties should do what Choctaw County and Starkville did. No reason to have multiple high schools in one county anymore for most of MS.

There are quite a few small Mississippi high schools within 15 miles of another school. Some counties that have consolidated successfully have much further drives than that.
We are our own worst enemy in Mississippi all too often.

shrimp
10-26-2016, 10:03 AM
Too many schools.


The enrollment numbers are in to MHSAA form the State Department of Education for the purpose of reclassification. MHSAA sent this email out today--The MHSAA has received school student enrollment totals as of October 1, 2016 from the Mississippi State Department of Education. School enrollments reported to the MDE shall be considered official for classification purposes. These numbers will be used for classification and region placement of member schools for the next two-year period, 2017-18, 2018-19. (MHSAA Handbook, page 12, 8.3.1)
The Executive Committee of the MHSAA will be meeting on November 16, 2016 to approve the overall reclassification of schools and region placement for fall and winter sports for the next two-year period. Classifications and regions will be announced upon approval by the committee.
MHSAA Handbook, Page 12, Article 8.1.3:
The thirty-two (32) member schools with the greatest enrollment in grades 9-12 will be classified as 6A schools. The next 32 schools will be classified as 5A schools. The remaining four classifications will be divided as evenly as possible to contain the same number of schools in each classification. Odd number schools will be placed in Class 1A. In assigning schools to classification, and if two or more schools have the same enrollment for the last place of a class, these schools will be placed in the higher classification for the two-year period. (Refer to page 12-13, Article 8: Classification)
These are the numbers for each school and according to the guidelines provided by MHSAA this is what I have come up with--understand this is not official by any means--just what I came up with, but it should be pretty close.
6A-Tupelo 1991
Southaven 1872
Ocean Springs 1774
Madison Central 1739
Desoto Central 1723
Oak Grove 1686
Harrison Central 1661
Northwest Rankin 1653
Biloxi 1628
Brandon 1575
Gulfport 1535
Clinton 1475
Murrah 1404
Starkville 1401
Meridian 1393
St Martin 1305
Diberville 1286
Greenville 1275
Warren Central 1274
Hancock 1270
Horn Lake 1264
Petal 1234
Terry 1215
Oxford 1198
Jim Hill 1194
George County 1170
South Panola 1167
Pearl 1162
Hernando 1160
Provine 1105
Pascagoula 1100
Columbus 1091
5A-Olive Branch 1080
West Harrison 1079
Germantown 1075
Forest Hill 1074
Callaway 1055
Vicksburg 1043
Grenada 1032
Hattiesburg 1029
Lewisburg 1009
Center Hill 1005
Saltillo 995
Lake Cormorant 981
Cleveland 972
Long Beach 963
Neshoba Central 955
Natchez 945
Wayne County 936
Picayune 932
Pearl River Central 926
Ridgeland 910
West Jones 894
West Point 877
Gautier 859
Canton 834
Laurel 817
South Jones 812
Lafayette 806
Holmes County 787
Stone 774
Brookhaven 756
North Pike 756
Wingfield 751
4A-Northeast Jones 748
Florence 733
East Central 732
Vancleave 726
New Hope 722
McComb 718
Lanier 689
Gentry 669
Clarksdale 659
Pontotoc 651
Greenwood 645
West Lauderdale 633
Raymond 630
Kosciusko Senior 615
NE Lauderdale 614
Corinth 610
Greene County 596
Lawrence County 594
Moss Point 585
Caledonia 585
Purvis 584
Tishomingo Co. 578
Pass Christian 576
Richland 575
Forrest Co. AHS 570
Bay 561
Poplarville 558
Leake Central 551
Itawamba AHS 549
Quitman 544
New Albany 544
Sumrall 541
Mendenhall 540
Yazoo City 540
Newton County 536
Shannon 533
Ripley 519
Rosa Fort 519
Louisville 517
St. Stanislaus 506
Amory 505
Senatobia 505
Byhalia 491
Mooreville 485
Noxubee County 483
South Pike 474
3A-South Pontotoc 473
Yazoo County 468
North Pontotoc 467
Choctaw Central 464
Kossuth 463
Columbia 456
Magee 455
Houston 454
Humphreys County 450
Crystal Springs 446
MS Math & Science 428
Port Gibson 423
Holly Springs 418
Morton 418
Jeff. Davis County 414
Seminary 402
Hazlehurst 400
SE Lauderdale 400
Forest 398
Ruleville Central 396
Tylertown 396
Amanda Elzy 395
Alcorn Central 394
Independence 390
North Panola 378
Jefferson County 374
Nettleton 374
Franklin 372
Booneville 363
West Marion 355
St. Andrew's 353
M. S. Palmer 346
Raleigh 342
Mclaurin 334
Wilkinson County 334
Choctaw County 331
Kemper County 330
Aberdeen 321
Water Valley 319
Charleston 317
Hatley 307
Coahoma AHS 302
Wesson 302
Velma Jackson 302
Belmont 302
J Z George 300
2A-Mantachie 298
New Site 293
Perry Central 290
OLA 290
O'bannon 287
Heidelberg 282
Clarkdale 275
Winona 274
East Webster 271
Enterprise (Clarke) 269
Pisgah 267
Amite County 266
Strayhorn 265
St. Joseph 262
Philadelphia 261
Collins 258
St. Patrick 258
Leland 257
Newton 256
Union 256
South Delta 256
Leflore County 255
Scott Central 254
Bay Springs 252
Loyd Star 252
East Union 249
Coahoma County 241
West Lincoln 240
Eupora 240
Bruce 238
Pelahatchie 237
Enterprise (Lincoln) 236
Puckett 232
North Forrest 227
Baldwyn 226
Richton 224
Calhoun City 222
Mize 220
Walnut 216
Riverside 216
Bogue Chitto 210
West Bolivar 209
Ingomar 207
Lake 203
West Tallahatchie 202
Taylorsville 200
1A-Potts Camp 199
Okolona 198
Sacred Heart 196
Ashland 192
Hamilton 191
Leake County 190
Simmons 189
Stringer 185
East Marion 185
Vardaman 181
Smithville 180
Myrtle 179
French Camp 177
Ethel 176
Sebastopol 173
Pine Grove 171
Resurrection 171
Tupelo Christian 170
Hickory Flat 168
Lumberton 163
Nanih Waiya 161
Falkner 159
West Union 156
H. W. Byers 155
Salem 154
Tremont 148
Shaw 146
John F Kennedy 145
West Lowndes 141
Broad Street 138
Coffeeville 135
Biggersville 134
Noxapater 130
Wheeler 127
Mount Olive 124
Thrasher 121
Houlka 119
McAdams 118
Durant 118
Piney Woods 110
Jumpertown 90
Montgomery Co. 72
Blue Mountain 65
Ray Brooks 55
MS School of Deaf 41

Jack Lambert
10-26-2016, 10:08 AM
Not nearly as big as northwest 6 grade class.

This years 6th grade in Brandon takes up the entire ole Middle School. I hate to see how big North West is.

SheltonChoked
10-26-2016, 10:49 AM
Maybe. But when I was in HS we played games from Jefferson County to Tupelo. The district a couple of years had Jackson area schools in it. That was a 2 hour bus ride. We had 1+ game a year were the bus ride was 3 hours or more. There are more 4 lane roads now, so it should be better.

But very different from out here. We had one real away game this year. It was closer to our house than the district alternate stadium is. Won't have a true travel game until the playoffs. Maybe.

That's what happens where there are 12 3,000 kids schools in the district.

I don't know why we are not recruiting more in Houston.

WinningIsRelentless
10-26-2016, 11:24 AM
This years 6th grade in Brandon takes up the entire ole Middle School. I hate to see how big North West is.
600+ kids