How happy would you be if DM made offensive staff changes, and name them?

[Thick]

Hevesy for sure

[maroonmania]

Until something is done with Hevesy then NOBODY can convince me that Mullen is truly serious about making MSU football the best it can be. Even with a friendship, I can't believe Mullen can watch the horrendous OL unit we have at this point and still feel good about handing Hevesy a paycheck.

[TrapGame]

If Mullen cans Hev and a couple others on offense next year I'll buy back in. He's gotta show me he gets it.

[BossDawg]

I would be ecstatic is Hevesy got the boot. Doesn't Mullen call the plays? A bona-fide OC would probably help, too. It would certainly make me happy. I'm not complaining about the WAY Mullen calls the offense, but an OC would give Mullen more time to do other head coaching activities.

[mcain31]

Mullen needs to hire some aggressive recruiters on that side of the ball. He needs some more young coaches with fire in their belly.

[Johnson85]

Hevesy for sure

If Mullen got rid of Hevesy, I would be satisfied. Ideally I'd love to have a true OC, so to get that in a way that makes sense might require that more than Hevesy be gone. But honestly, he's the only unit coach with a unit that is so awful so consistently that I can say for sure he needs to go. Next on the list would be our RB coach.

[preachermatt83]

Hev and Knox.

[preachermatt83]

And sallach.

[SheltonChoked]

Hevesy to anywhere off the field for a new interior OL coach (list includes Dale Williams, Mike Hallett, Allen Rudolph, Shawn Clark, Allen Mogridge)
Sallich to the office for a Tackles and TE coach (See above list)

[JoseBrown]

I would be ecstatic is Hevesy got the boot. Doesn't Mullen call the plays? A bona-fide OC would probably help, too. It would certainly make me happy. I'm not complaining about the WAY Mullen calls the offense, but an OC would give Mullen more time to do other head coaching activities.

Like clock management? ***

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I expect at least a couple of guys will be let go after this year on the offensive side of the ball including Hev.

[Thick]

I expect at least a couple of guys will be let go after this year on the offensive side of the ball including Hev.

DO NOT PLAY WITH MY EMOTIONS, IYOK!!! Not funny at all, but are you serious??

[Ifyouonlyknew]

DO NOT PLAY WITH MY EMOTIONS, IYOK!!! Not funny at all, but are you serious??

That's what I'm hearing. Of course if we win out things could change***

[Cooterpoot]

Happier than Chad Kelly at a porn convention

[Dawgbite]

DO NOT PLAY WITH MY EMOTIONS, IYOK!!! Not funny at all, but are you serious??

He wouldn't shit you, You are his favorite turd!

[Dawgbite]

Happier than Chad Kelly at a porn convention

On his way there , maybe. After leaving, not so much.

[TrapGame]

I expect at least a couple of guys will be let go after this year on the offensive side of the ball including Hev.

I refuse to get my hopes up until I actually see it.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I refuse to get my hopes up until I actually see it.

Me too but that's what I've heard from multiple people I trust.

[missouridawg]

I honestly think Dan would win back a lot of his bandwagon solely by getting rid of Hevesy and/or Knox and/or Sallach and replaced them with guys who eat/sleep/breathe recruiting. To me, that's the one thing he needs to address fast.

I think we need a new strength coach too. I always knew who Balis and Court were... no clue who the guy is now.

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

That's what I'm hearing. Of course if we win out things could change***

Maybe this season was the straw that broke the camels back. We have already had more close losses this season (7 points or under) with 3 than we have had in any other season under Mullen.

Mullen has to be thinking we would be 5-1 with a decent o-line.

[BossDawg]

Me too but that's what I've heard from multiple people I trust.

Well what have you heard about the status of Dan? I thought be was either wanting out or about to (possibly) be forced out.

[shrimp]

Agree on strength coach.....we look slow and weak.


I honestly think Dan would win back a lot of his bandwagon solely by getting rid of Hevesy and/or Knox and/or Sallach and replaced them with guys who eat/sleep/breathe recruiting. To me, that's the one thing he needs to address fast.

I think we need a new strength coach too. I always knew who Balis and Court were... no clue who the guy is now.

[Johnson85]

I honestly think Dan would win back a lot of his bandwagon solely by getting rid of Hevesy and/or Knox and/or Sallach
He would have me back. I don't expect perfection, I just expect somebody that constantly tries to address weaknesses.

I'm worried it will be too late as it's going to take a couple of yeras at least to fix the damage of not recruiting Oline for teh past few years, but if he landed some Oline this year and had a really solid OL class next year, I could stomach what will likely be a mediocre 2018 if we look good everywhere but Oline.

[thf24]

Hev is an obvious liability and Sallach is dead weight, but are we convinced Knox is the problem with the RB's, or is it Mullen insisting on running a needlessly complicated system that takes tailbacks 3 years to learn? We know Knox is valuable in recruiting, so I feel like we should give him a little more benefit of the doubt than the other two.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well what have you heard about the status of Dan? I thought be was either wanting out or about to (possibly) be forced out.

I guess there's always a possibility he could take another job. I don't see anyway he's fired after this year.

[mcain31]

Could we hire Chris Kleinakis from Louisville for OL coach?

[Eric Nies Grind Time]

Could we hire Chris Kleinakis from Louisville for OL coach?

Notre Dame's o-line coach could be looking for a job soon. That would be an absolute gigantic upgrade if we can afford him.

[FISHDAWG]

I honestly think Dan would win back a lot of his bandwagon solely by getting rid of Hevesy and/or Knox and/or Sallach and replaced them with guys who eat/sleep/breathe recruiting. To me, that's the one thing he needs to address fast.

I think we need a new strength coach too. I always knew who Balis and Court were... no clue who the guy is now.

he might win back a lot of message board posters... but I have asked others and the consensus outside of message boards is that Mullen is having a down year like most coaches of an 8yr tenure tend to go through and he is still very much in favor with the much larger overall fan base ... we have to remember that message board fans are like a fraction of a fraction of the total fan base ... but I def get your point and not trying to make an argument here - just an observation

[dawgday166]

Like clock management? ***

Clock management?? What is THAT *********

[TStationDawg]

Me too but that's what I've heard from multiple people I trust.

So Dan, how many voices do you TRULY hear in your head on a daily basis, that you trust, that is?! LISTEN TO THEM! ***** :)

[AROB44]

he might win back a lot of message board posters... but I have asked others and the consensus outside of message boards is that Mullen is having a down year like most coaches of an 8yr tenure tend to go through and he is still very much in favor with the much larger overall fan base ... we have to remember that message board fans are like a fraction of a fraction of the total fan base ... but I def get your point and not trying to make an argument here - just an observation

THIS!!!! Message board posters are an infinitesimal portion of the fan base. Also, Mullen is still learning to be a head coach. He has only been one for 8 years. Hopefully he will continue to learn and do it at a faster pace.

[maroonmania]

I guess there's always a possibility he could take another job. I don't see anyway he's fired after this year.

Question for you, let's say we win 4 games max this season and Dan doesn't leave and we don't fire him. Does he go another year without a contract extension? Does he go down to only a 2 year contract for next Fall? From the outside looking in I don't believe we would get rid of Mullen after this season given its only one down year but there is something amiss with Mullen and Keenum (or somebody) for him to win 9 games last year at MSU and not get a contract extension. That right there tells me there is much more to this soap opera than wins and losses on the field at the moment.

[TrapGame]

he might win back a lot of message board posters... but I have asked others and the consensus outside of message boards is that Mullen is having a down year like most coaches of an 8yr tenure tend to go through and he is still very much in favor with the much larger overall fan base ... we have to remember that message board fans are like a fraction of a fraction of the total fan base ... but I def get your point and not trying to make an argument here - just an observation

Yep, a fellow co-worker, State alum, in her mid 50's thinks Mullen hung the moon. She has bought in to the "we are a young team." line. Nothing is Mullen's fault.

[Johnson85]

Yep, a fellow co-worker, State alum, in her mid 50's thinks Mullen hung the moon. She has bought in to the "we are a young team." line. Nothing is Mullen's fault.

I am more of a Dan supporter than most (or at least most on message boards), but it actually does piss me off that he talks about us being a young team. I understand coach speak, but you can coach speak without straight up lying. If he wants to talk about being inexperienced, fine. But we are only young in the sense that college football players are young.

[maroonmania]

I honestly think Dan would win back a lot of his bandwagon solely by getting rid of Hevesy and/or Knox and/or Sallach and replaced them with guys who eat/sleep/breathe recruiting. To me, that's the one thing he needs to address fast.

I think we need a new strength coach too. I always knew who Balis and Court were... no clue who the guy is now.

Hevesy HAS to go given his issues in recruiting plus coaching the unit which is the poorest performing part of the team. Would be nice if Knox and/or Sallach go as well but replacing them would not have nearly as much impact overall to the team as finding a competent OL coach that can recruit and manage not to piss off everyone that he deals with.

[Steakonastick]

1. Can Hevesy ASAP

2. Move sallach to a desk job. And hire the best recruiter you can. This is the easiest position to hire somebody who can shake hands and kiss babies like no other. A good wr coach and o-line coach can handle the X's and O's for the group.

3. A new strength and conditioning coach. We look weak and slow compared to years past. When we hit guys they fall forward.

4. I am ok with giving Knox another year. Only because I do not want 3 out of the 4 coaches on offense new. I also think there is a chance Gonzales leaves for a head coaching gig.

[Goldendawg]

It doesn't take an elitedawgs poster to know Dan has brought most of this on MSU football and himself this year. I've been nothing but a State fan for 53 years and virtually no one I know is buying the "young team", "rebuilding year" lines. They want changes and and a competitive, if not winning team asap. OL, has no foundation to rebuild on and a good restarting point would be having Hev and Sallach replaced when someone who can recruit and that more OL prospects want to play for. Having so many OL players with no SEC offers but us is an injustice to them, MSU, and loyal fans.

[Todd4State]

If Dan comes back Dan needs to make some changes at a minimum for me to be somewhat happy.

QB- Keep Brian Johnson. I?m actually OK with Dan?s play calling for the most part. The issue I have is how the uses his personnel.

RB- Knox should go. I would promote Rod Gibson

WR- Keep Gonzalez

TE- Bench Sallach, promote Brad Peterson

OL- Fire Hevesy. I would go for a home run here and try to hire Steve Addazio if Boston College fires him. I?m honestly not sure how good of a recruiter he is but odds are he is better than Hevesy. Actually if we sent recruits a rattlesnake in the mail that would be a better recruiter than Hevesy. If we couldn?t land him I?d go after Steve Campbell or the best mid major o-line coach I could find. I?d also kick the tires on an o-line coach from a power house program that?s going through a coaching change like probably Texas if their guy is any good and it?s realistic to get him.

DL- Keep Baker
LB- Keep Sirmon but make a promise to allow him to run his defense and stay the hell away.
CB- Keep Buckley
S- Keep Linguist or promote Austin

Also, I think the NCAA will allow teams to add a new coach next year pending legislation and if that happens I promote?

ST- Chris Boniol. I think he has done a good job with Logan Cooke and Graves range has improved. The guy has NFL ST coaching experience and I would think being a former NFL kicker would attract good kicker prospects.

And yes, get the best S&C coach you can find as well.

[JoseBrown]

Me too but that's what I've heard from multiple people I trust.

If Hev is truly let go after the season, or before the end, I propose we have an ED party in honor of IYOK! I'd be there!

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

I'm ok for Dan Staying if he gets rid of 1A HEVESY, 1B HEVESY, 1C HEVESY!! , KNOX!!

[Dawgfan77]

The truth is that in the 14 and 15 off-season dan thought he was gone and recruiting was an afterthought. Think about all the coaches that left and how long it took to hire someone. Dan is reaping the rewards of his lack of recruiting this year

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

he might win back a lot of message board posters... but I have asked others and the consensus outside of message boards is that Mullen is having a down year like most coaches of an 8yr tenure tend to go through and he is still very much in favor with the much larger overall fan base ... we have to remember that message board fans are like a fraction of a fraction of the total fan base ... but I def get your point and not trying to make an argument here - just an observation

I've talked to many of the older generational fans most are in favor of keeping Dan! It's not Surprising that the majority of them always talk about the days PRE-MULLEN as reasons why.