Why do people want still want Mullen as the HC?

[Noah11]

I don't understand why people still want Mullen as the head coach. i'm not saying we need to fire him mid-season, but at the end of the season he needs to be gone. Our team has been playing with no effort, if we were loosing and playing with energy and effort i would not be so mad, but loosing and playing with no effort is unacceptable. Dan Mulled is 4-25 against ranked teams, we have lost the last 3 out of 4 games against TSUN, and that right there is enough for me to be ready to get rid of him. This year has been a disaster, we will likely finish 3-9 or 4-8 with another loss to TSUN, our recruiting class is poor with just a bunch of 3 stars. Mullen has done a lot for this program but anyone who quits 1/3 of the way through the season doesn't deserve to coach at this great university. In my opinion is time for a change of scenery for him.

[Dawg61]

Dak Prescott is the starting QB for the Dallas Cowboys. Ideally I'd like Dan to stop being a stupid pus$y and we MSU can benefit for awhile from all the exposure Dak is bringing MSU. Sadly though Dan would rather act like a teenage girl.

[Liverpooldawg]

For me, because he has done some things here no other coach has ever done. He has done a bunch of others that only one had ever done before him. The facilities are night and day compared to before he got here. The program has a whole has grown by leaps and bounds during his tenure. I also think we are about to have a historic opportunity in state. I don't think I want to start over at the same time that is happening. We also have the best advertisement we have ever had in the NFL right now. I know we have had great players there, but Dak is a QB. That's a whole different level of attention. We have a guy that has proven he can win over more than one or two years running, in football, at Mississippi State. That's a rare commodity whether we want to admit that or not.


I'll add this, if we keep him or not more money needs to be found for assistants. We are at least watching the game when it comes to the head coach. We aren't even in the same zip code as the stadium with assistants.

[Tbonewannabe]

I would think people who want him to stay think the level of effort we are getting now can be solved by new players taking leadership roles. Dan has proven he can develop a QB and we have a great one committed that enrolls in December along with Kylin Hill who should be an explosive RB. We are consistently going to bowls now. We typically haven't lost to teams we should beat but also don't really beat teams we shouldn't. I think most people are scared that we regress back to making a Nashville or Memphis bowl every 3 or so years level.

People that want him gone typically think we are hitting an average with the SEC money. We should be able to beat 4 cupcakes and 2 SEC teams to at least get to a bowl pretty much every year especially with UK as one of the SEC teams. Dan has done well but against good teams he isn't that great.

[thf24]

If he could offer proof that he's committed to being here and that he understands he depends on strong leaders on the team for motivation (and take that into consideration when recruiting), then I'd want to keep him because I think he'd be as successful as anyone can here at this point in time. The stubborn on-the-field issues would eventually work themselves out; no one can ignore reality forever. I'm just growing less and less convinced either of the former is going to happen as time goes on.

[Cooterpoot]

Damn, another Mullen has quit thread. It will be followed by a Mullen wants out thread. Hell, if he wants out, you think he isn't going to push to win so he can get a job? This whole, "He's quit" crap is crazy. He's going to tank the season and take a crap job? Just makes no sense.

[FISHDAWG]

I don't understand why people still want Mullen as the head coach. i'm not saying we need to fire him mid-season, but at the end of the season he needs to be gone. Our team has been playing with no effort, if we were loosing and playing with energy and effort i would not be so mad, but loosing and playing with no effort is unacceptable. Dan Mulled is 4-25 against ranked teams, we have lost the last 3 out of 4 games against TSUN, and that right there is enough for me to be ready to get rid of him. This year has been a disaster, we will likely finish 3-9 or 4-8 with another loss to TSUN, our recruiting class is poor with just a bunch of 3 stars. Mullen has done a lot for this program but anyone who quits 1/3 of the way through the season doesn't deserve to coach at this great university. In my opinion is time for a change of scenery for him.

after all the time we gave Croom another year of Dan isn't the end of the world

[bstate]

Nobody can really know if Dan has quit or not, but one thing is for sure the players have quit. Brandon Bryant had a tackle at about the 4 yard line on one of Auburn's td's on just let up and let him walk in. We drop tons of passes,who knows what they do in practice, the oline is apparently too dumb to get out of a stance and if I was fitz i would be letting the oline and hevsey have it cause that is what a leader does. This all falls back onto Mullen who is the head coach.

[GTHOM]

after all the time we gave Croom another year of Dan isn't the end of the world

Why in the hell would we want to go through it again then??? Its time. Anyone who wants to keep him if the rest of this season goes like we expect it to, should just go follow whatever school he goes to next

[Dawgtini]

I don't understand why people still want Mullen as the head coach. i'm not saying we need to fire him mid-season, but at the end of the season he needs to be gone. Our team has been playing with no effort, if we were loosing and playing with energy and effort i would not be so mad, but loosing and playing with no effort is unacceptable. Dan Mulled is 4-25 against ranked teams, we have lost the last 3 out of 4 games against TSUN, and that right there is enough for me to be ready to get rid of him. This year has been a disaster, we will likely finish 3-9 or 4-8 with another loss to TSUN, our recruiting class is poor with just a bunch of 3 stars. Mullen has done a lot for this program but anyone who quits 1/3 of the way through the season doesn't deserve to coach at this great university. In my opinion is time for a change of scenery for him.

Because you Bears hate him. Oh, and he is a good coach.

[Dawgtini]

Why in the hell would we want to go through it again then??? Its time. Anyone who wants to keep him if the rest of this season goes like we expect it to, should just go follow whatever school he goes to next
Sounds fair. If he stays do all of you in the pitchfork mob go follow another school?

[GTHOM]

Sounds fair. If he stays do all of you in the pitchfork mob go follow another school?

Naw. I wont. I love state not the 4 million plus dollars they hand me for doing a shitastic job

[Dawgtini]

Naw. I wont. I love state not the 4 million plus dollars they hand me for doing a shitastic job
So you are implying that if I support Mullen that I don't love State? Surely you are not that obtuse. There was another pitchfork mob in 2013 too. I'm glad we stuck it out then and I expect to be glad we stuck it out in 2017.

[GTHOM]

So you are implying that if I support Mullen that I don't love State? Surely you are not that obtuse. There was another pitchfork mob in 2013 too. I'm glad we stuck it out then and I expect to be glad we stuck it out in 2017.

No I didnt say that. Im saying that if you still want Mullen if this season goes the way we all expect it to then you sound like a sheep. I liked Dan when he tried. I dont hate his guts, I hate what SS allowed him to do to our program. The 2013 team was never down 35-0 at half and didnt lose to a sun belt team, oh and they played hard they didnt look like they could care less about playing

[Liverpooldawg]

Sounds fair. If he stays do all of you in the pitchfork mob go follow another school?

Right over his head.

[Noah11]

Because you Bears hate him. Oh, and he is a good coach.


I don't know who you are calling a bear, but i hope it's not me. I pay major money to watch us loaf around. I have only missed 1 home game in 6 years, hell i even drove to maimi to watch us get our a**es beat.

[CadaverDawg]

Let the season play out. Its not time to fire Mullen. Not even at the end of the season. Let the damn season play out.

[Dawgtini]

I don't know who you are calling a bear, but i hope it's not me. I pay major money to watch us loaf around. I have only missed 1 home game in 6 years, hell i even drove to maimi to watch us get our a**es beat.
6 years. Wow. Nice start. I too was in Miami. Most yards we had ever put up at the time...and unfortunately probably most we gave up too. Great venue, crappy outcome. Feel better?

[BayouDawg]

The thing that worries me is that usually when you see a team that has checked out it's because the coach has checked out. Not easy to get that fixed. Maybe Dan checks back in in the offseason, but I think the bridge is already burning.

[FISHDAWG]

Why in the hell would we want to go through it again then??? Its time. Anyone who wants to keep him if the rest of this season goes like we expect it to, should just go follow whatever school he goes to next

Croom doesn't even belong anywhere near the same page of history as Mullen ... I didn't say I wanted to keep him next year - just that it wouldn't be as atrocious as a lot of folks are making it out to be and now your hate for Mullen is translating to hate for fellow bulldogs.

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I feel the hate

[RougeDawg]

The thing that worries me is that usually when you see a team that has checked out it's because the coach has checked out. Not easy to get that fixed. Maybe Dan checks back in in the offseason, but I think the bridge has been burningsince 2012/2013 when Dan started his playing class over talent bullshit.

FIFY. The team and top brass started to slowly turn on Dan during this time due to his not getting the younger talent on the field to out our team in the best position to win. There was a buyout in the making during the 2013 season and if some of you choose to forget, his DGAF attitude was present I. 13. He was just forced to player the more talented players because upperclassmen were injured. Dak came alive and JRob finally got carries. They catapulted our team into 2014, not Dan. Dan was rejuvenated LSU game for a bit like a sick person after they get a steroid shot. 6 weeks or so later Bama put a bullet between the deer in the headlights eyes and his will/spirit was ultimately broken. He's just riding out his maroon paycheck until he can find somewhere else to go. This is basically what he told Keenum this off season.

But carry on you Mullen Sheep, carry on.

[Landon7799]

Nobody can really know if Dan has quit or not, but one thing is for sure the players have quit. Brandon Bryant had a tackle at about the 4 yard line on one of Auburn's td's on just let up and let him walk in. We drop tons of passes,who knows what they do in practice, the oline is apparently too dumb to get out of a stance and if I was fitz i would be letting the oline and hevsey have it cause that is what a leader does. This all falls back onto Mullen who is the head coach.


Right on the money with this. Without senior leadership we won't be able to win.

[Liverpooldawg]

FIFY. The team and top brass started to slowly turn on Dan during this time due to his not getting the younger talent on the field to out our team in the best position to win. There was a buyout in the making during the 2013 season and if some of you choose to forget, his DGAF attitude was present I. 13. He was just forced to player the more talented players because upperclassmen were injured. Dak came alive and JRob finally got carries. They catapulted our team into 2014, not Dan. Dan was rejuvenated LSU game for a bit like a sick person after they get a steroid shot. 6 weeks or so later Bama put a bullet between the deer in the headlights eyes and his will/spirit was ultimately broken. He's just riding out his maroon paycheck until he can find somewhere else to go. This is basically what he told Keenum this off season.

But carry on you Mullen Sheep, carry on.
So he told Keemun that did he? Do you realize how utterly ridiculous that is?

[RougeDawg]

So he told Keemun that did he? Do you realize how utterly ridiculous that is?

How did I know you wouldn't believe water is wet. Almost like clockwork your ignorant delusion appears.

Ver batum from Mullen's mouth to Keenum "I'll never be able to win the west at Mississippi state if I could not win it these last two years (2014/2015)." Basically giving up and saying that's the reason he was looking for another job. After which Keenum lost his shit and wanted to fire him in the spot. All of this occurred after Dan shopped himself for the 2nd off season and came back asking for a raise and $500k salary for Hevesy (which would be 6th highest salary for an OL coach in all of college football). End result was no raise, no extension and Keenum telling he and SS they better find a way to make their exit look the best it can for them because of things continue the way they are (lazy recruiting, Dan whoring himself and not fully dedicated to MSU, and coaching changes) they would be forced out.

Tell me where you've seen coaching changes, fire on the recruiting trail, and a team that's playing hard. I've seen a team and coach that had quit, wears shorts and doesn't care that we lose.

[Really Clark?]

How did I know you wouldn't believe water is wet. Almost like clockwork your ignorant delusion appears.

Ver batum from Mullen's mouth to Keenum "I'll never be able to win the west at Mississippi state if I could not win it these last two years (2014/2015)." Basically giving up and saying that's the reason he was looking for another job. After which Keenum lost his shit and wanted to fire him in the spot. All of this occurred after Dan shopped himself for the 2nd off season and came back asking for a raise and $500k salary for Hevesy (which would be 6th highest salary for an OL coach in all of college football). End result was no raise, no extension and Keenum telling he and SS they better find a way to make their exit look the best it can for them because of things continue the way they are (lazy recruiting, Dan whoring himself and not fully dedicated to MSU, and coaching changes) they would be forced out.

Tell me where you've seen coaching changes, fire on the recruiting trail, and a team that's playing hard. I've seen a team and coach that had quit, wears shorts and doesn't care that we lose.

Keenum never at any point said to that to Strickland. Never and that's from Keenum. Dear lord we some of the luckiest AD's and assistants in the world to fall up in position when they are about to be fired or are running to get away from Dan according to some of you people. I don't know which dumb booster told that about Strickland but is probably one of the ones that Keenum has had the threaten on more than one occasion to stay out of this stuff and not to be trying to continue the misinformation campaign. And the first time Keenum had to blast them was 2013 because they started to try to get thing in motion and flat lied to people about things happening to try and turn the fan base.

Dan did not ask for that raise for Hev, he did talk to them about across the board increase for the assistants but it was 10-15%.

[Turfdawg67]

Like I said in an earlier thread... People just say stuff over and over and suddenly it becomes fact. Now Dan has told Keenum that he'd never win the West?!? Stuff is too funny.

[Turfdawg67]

Because you Bears hate him. Oh, and he is a good coach.

My thoughts exactly. Sure sounds like a bear

[was21]

"This"

[Liverpooldawg]

How did I know you wouldn't believe water is wet. Almost like clockwork your ignorant delusion appears.

Ver batum from Mullen's mouth to Keenum "I'll never be able to win the west at Mississippi state if I could not win it these last two years (2014/2015)." Basically giving up and saying that's the reason he was looking for another job. After which Keenum lost his shit and wanted to fire him in the spot. All of this occurred after Dan shopped himself for the 2nd off season and came back asking for a raise and $500k salary for Hevesy (which would be 6th highest salary for an OL coach in all of college football). End result was no raise, no extension and Keenum telling he and SS they better find a way to make their exit look the best it can for them because of things continue the way they are (lazy recruiting, Dan whoring himself and not fully dedicated to MSU, and coaching changes) they would be forced out.

Tell me where you've seen coaching changes, fire on the recruiting trail, and a team that's playing hard. I've seen a team and coach that had quit, wears shorts and doesn't care that we lose.
Got a recording of that do you?

[Liverpooldawg]

Keenum never at any point said to that to Strickland. Never and that's from Keenum. Dear lord we some of the luckiest AD's and assistants in the world to fall up in position when they are about to be fired or are running to get away from Dan according to some of you people. I don't know which dumb booster told that about Strickland but is probably one of the ones that Keenum has had the threaten on more than one occasion to stay out of this stuff and not to be trying to continue the misinformation campaign. And the first time Keenum had to blast them was 2013 because they started to try to get thing in motion and flat lied to people about things happening to try and turn the fan base.

Dan did not ask for that raise for Hev, he did talk to them about across the board increase for the assistants but it was 10-15%.

He is probably one of them.

[Goat from MSU]

Is that you Hugh,time to Ban .
I don't understand why people still want Mullen as the head coach. i'm not saying we need to fire him mid-season, but at the end of the season he needs to be gone. Our team has been playing with no effort, if we were loosing and playing with energy and effort i would not be so mad, but loosing and playing with no effort is unacceptable. Dan Mulled is 4-25 against ranked teams, we have lost the last 3 out of 4 games against TSUN, and that right there is enough for me to be ready to get rid of him. This year has been a disaster, we will likely finish 3-9 or 4-8 with another loss to TSUN, our recruiting class is poor with just a bunch of 3 stars. Mullen has done a lot for this program but anyone who quits 1/3 of the way through the season doesn't deserve to coach at this great university. In my opinion is time for a change of scenery for him.

[dawgfan22]

Nobody can really know if Dan has quit or not, but one thing is for sure the players have quit. Brandon Bryant had a tackle at about the 4 yard line on one of Auburn's td's on just let up and let him walk in. We drop tons of passes,who knows what they do in practice, the oline is apparently too dumb to get out of a stance and if I was fitz i would be letting the oline and hevsey have it cause that is what a leader does. This all falls back onto Mullen who is the head coach.


Right on the money with this. Without senior leadership we won't be able to win.

The problem is that Fitz won't step up and take the leadership role that comes with being a QB at any level. It starts at the QB position and right now we're just getting it done. I think Dam is definitely more of a leader than Fitz which we saw at LSU. 2 TDs in about 5 minutes. The guys seem to want to make plays when Dam is in

[dawgfan22]

Nobody can really know if Dan has quit or not, but one thing is for sure the players have quit. Brandon Bryant had a tackle at about the 4 yard line on one of Auburn's td's on just let up and let him walk in. We drop tons of passes,who knows what they do in practice, the oline is apparently too dumb to get out of a stance and if I was fitz i would be letting the oline and hevsey have it cause that is what a leader does. This all falls back onto Mullen who is the head coach.


Right on the money with this. Without senior leadership we won't be able to win.

Dan can't keep making the excuse that we're a young, inexperienced team. We've had 5 games which is more than enough to be prepared for life in the SEC. Either it's time for the coaching staff to prepare better or the kids need to step up and start winning games

[Noah11]

The problem is that Fitz won't step up and take the leadership role that comes with being a QB at any level. It starts at the QB position and right now we're just getting it done. I think Dam is definitely more of a leader than Fitz which we saw at LSU. 2 TDs in about 5 minutes. The guys seem to want to make plays when Dam is in

I agree with that. I think fitz needs to step up and be a leader and if that can't happen then we need to get him out and put either Dam in or Nick Tiano in the game. Back to my original argument Lack of effort and leadership. Something needs to change and it all goes back to the head coach.

[RougeDawg]

Like I said in an earlier thread... People just say stuff over and over and suddenly it becomes fact. Now Dan has told Keenum that he'd never win the West?!? Stuff is too funny.

Like I said to Liverfool, you will deny water is wet. Mullen for a fact said this.

[RougeDawg]

So he told Keemun that did he? Do you realize how utterly ridiculous that is?

Do you realize how utterly ridiculous it is to watch your blind following of Mullen. There are numerous people close to the Athletic department and football program who know what Mullen said to be true. That's why he wasn't given an extension or raise and SS was told he no longer had control over AD and he would be tied to Dan Mullen's actions or lack thereof if coaches weren't released and Dan stopped his antics. I'm not sure what's so difficult to understand. I posted this months ago before SS even was rumored to be leaving.

One of the current football coaches is where my information came from. Guess he was lying about the entire thing.

[Noah11]

Like I said to Liverfool, you will deny water is wet. Mullen for a fact said this.

how do you know he said this? thats what im wondering

[RougeDawg]

Keenum never at any point said to that to Strickland. Never and that's from Keenum. Dear lord we some of the luckiest AD's and assistants in the world to fall up in position when they are about to be fired or are running to get away from Dan according to some of you people. I don't know which dumb booster told that about Strickland but is probably one of the ones that Keenum has had the threaten on more than one occasion to stay out of this stuff and not to be trying to continue the misinformation campaign. And the first time Keenum had to blast them was 2013 because they started to try to get thing in motion and flat lied to people about things happening to try and turn the fan base.

Dan did not ask for that raise for Hev, he did talk to them about across the board increase for the assistants but it was 10-15%.

Dude this information came from a current coach. A coach who was also involved in the raise request. He knows the amounts and Dan wanted Hev $500k. I understand you will tell everyone water is dry if I say it's wet, but open your eyes.

Do you have a pet unicorn?

[Really Clark?]

Dude this information came from a current coach. A coach who was also involved in the raise request. He knows the amounts and Dan wanted Hev $500k. I understand you will tell everyone water is dry if I say it's wet, but open your eyes.

Do you have a pet unicorn?

Whatever. The AD's office disputes that. And it was across the board for all the coaches. 10-15%.

[Noah11]

Is that you Hugh,time to Ban .

How can you make that assumption? Just because i want the best for the MSU? That is absolutely ridiculous and absurd. I don't like Mullen and i don't think he is a good coach. All of yall mullen supporters don't want him gone because yall fear that if we fire Mullen we will be in the same situation that ole miss was in after Cutcliffe. Mullen needs to go after this year unless he turns things around.

[MadDawg]

I don't understand why people still want Mullen as the head coach. i'm not saying we need to fire him mid-season, but at the end of the season he needs to be gone. Our team has been playing with no effort, if we were loosing and playing with energy and effort i would not be so mad, but loosing and playing with no effort is unacceptable. Dan Mulled is 4-25 against ranked teams, we have lost the last 3 out of 4 games against TSUN, and that right there is enough for me to be ready to get rid of him. This year has been a disaster, we will likely finish 3-9 or 4-8 with another loss to TSUN, our recruiting class is poor with just a bunch of 3 stars. Mullen has done a lot for this program but anyone who quits 1/3 of the way through the season doesn't deserve to coach at this great university. In my opinion is time for a change of scenery for him.

Because some of us aren't emotional girls?

[MadDawg]

after all the time we gave Croom another year of Dan isn't the end of the world

yes, there is plenty of time to find Croom 2.0 to save us