Auburn is better than we are

[lamont]

We are home and have a week off to prepare. They are way more physical upfront than us. A good gameplan and a loud home crowd will help give us a chance. Need a big effort next Saturday to pull out a win.

[Coursesuper]

You can stick a fork in the loud crowd, 11:00 takes care of that.

[Tbonewannabe]

When is the last time our Oline was physical?

[lamont]

When is the last time our Oline was physical?

2010

[Tripp McNeely]

Didn't this same damn thread just get deleted???

[ShotgunDawg]

You can stick a fork in the loud crowd, 11:00 takes care of that.

It wasn't dead in 2014 against A&M at 11:00.

People want to see good football. That's all. If we play well, the crowd will be good

[msstate7]

You know what's softer than our football team upfront? Our fanbase by far... our fans are scared crapless of an auburn team that isn't very good. I realize we aren't very good either, but we've played with much better auburn teams with a bigger talent gap. Our fanbase needs to man up

[Tripp McNeely]

You know what's softer than our football team upfront? Our fanbase by far... our fans are scared crapless of an auburn team that isn't very good. I realize we aren't very good either, but we've played with much better auburn teams with a bigger talent gap. Our fanbase needs to man up

^^^^^ THIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!

[lamont]

Didn't this same damn thread just get deleted???

I'm a Mod- my threads dont get locked.

Plus- I'm actually talking specifics- not just "Zuburn will beat us badly". They are alot better than us upfront- and it allows them to run the ball more effectively as well as have more time to throw the football. Teams have to bring safeties up vs them to help vs the run and that creates big passing plays. White has done a great job throwing the football to young WR's. Will be the match-up to watch Saturday

[ShotgunDawg]

You know what's softer than our football team upfront? Our fanbase by far... our fans are scared crapless of an auburn team that isn't very good. I realize we aren't very good either, but we've played with much better auburn teams with a bigger talent gap. Our fanbase needs to man up

This. It would be an interesting study to figure out how MSU fan's opinions & optimism differed depending on their age. I sense that we have some older fans that just don't get it.

Secondly, I've always sensed this feeling at MSU that it's cool to think the team sucks. It really a shitty attitude that needs to be weeded our of our fan base

[Coursesuper]

It wasn't dead in 2014 against A&M at 11:00.

People want to see good football. That's all. If we play well, the crowd will be good

You really post a lot.

[lamont]

You know what's softer than our football team upfront? Our fanbase by far... our fans are scared crapless of an auburn team that isn't very good. I realize we aren't very good either, but we've played with much better auburn teams with a bigger talent gap. Our fanbase needs to man up

Thats bullshit. Nobody is "scared" of Auburn. Its just easy to see they are much better than us. This Auburn team is pretty good and getting better by the week. They are playing lots of young guys and getting better because of each week's experience.

[Dawg61]

A good gameplan and a loud home crowd will help give us a chance.

Give us a chance? Hahahahah we've beaten Auburn 3 of the last 4 years. Trolllolololololllloooll gotta troll

[msstate7]

Thats bullshit. Nobody is "scared" of Auburn. Its just easy to see they are much better than us. This Auburn team is pretty good and getting better by the week. They are playing lots of young guys and getting better because of each week's experience.

So lots of "young guys" will be making their first road trip this year. Think that could hurt them? aTm has looked great this year (much better than auburn) and they look terrible on their first trip out of Texas this season vs a very bad South Carolina team

[lamont]

Secondly, I've always sensed this feeling at MSU that it's cool to think the team sucks. It really a shitty attitude that needs to be weeded our of our fan base

Nobody was saying we sucked in 2014. Why? Because we were actually good.

When you keep getting beat badly in big games even when you win 7 or 8- doesnt mean you are very good.

[Liverpooldawg]

Didn't this same damn thread just get deleted???

Yes

[lamont]

So lots of "young guys" will be making their first road trip this year. Think that could hurt them? aTm has looked great this year (much better than auburn) and they look terrible on their first trip out of Texas this season

2nd trip- A&M played at Auburn

Their young guys could certainly have problems on the road- I covered that when I mentioned us being at home- thats an advantage. Problem is that their OL and DL isnt young. Those guys are seasoned and ready to go. And the whole point is that a loud crowd and an effort like SC is showing today will give us a chance

[msstate7]

Nobody was saying we sucked in 2014. Why? Because we were actually good.

When you keep getting beat badly in big games even when you win 7 or 8- doesnt mean you are very good.

I guess auburn isn't a big game then bc we always play them well. We're gonna win this week too... I know that's gonna tick you off since you want our HC gone as part of your latest mission

[lamont]

Yes

No. It was locked. Not deleted. Big difference

[msstate7]

2nd trip- A&M played at Auburn

Their young guys could certainly have problems on the road- I covered that when I mentioned us being at home- thats an advantage. Problem is that their OL and DL isnt young. Those guys are seasoned and ready to go. And the whole point is that a loud crowd and an effort like SC is showing today will give us a chance

Dang, how did I forget that trip? My bad

[lamont]

I guess auburn isn't a big game then bc we always play them well. We're gonna win this week too... I know that's gonna tick you off since you want our HC gone as part of your latest mission

we dont play this week Socrates

[lamont]

Give us a chance? Hahahahah we've beaten Auburn 3 of the last 4 years. Trolllolololololllloooll gotta troll

This year has nothing to do with the last 4 years.

We had lost to LSU for over a decade before beating them in 2014. Its a new season with new players

[Dawg61]

Auburn sucks at the QB position. Not scared.

[bulldawg28]

We are home and have a week off to prepare. They are way more physical upfront than us. A good gameplan and a loud home crowd will help give us a chance. Need a big effort next Saturday to pull out a win.

I like this post

[DudyDawg]

11 am crowd after Bulldog bash won't help

[Dawg61]

This year has nothing to do with the last 4 years.

We had lost to LSU for over a decade before beating them in 2014. Its a new season with new players

Yup and Auburn is shit at the QB position with their whiteboy midget that can't throw it 40 yards. We'll see Franklin the entire 2nd half after their offense does nothing the whole first half. MSU 21 Auburn 17

[lamont]

Yup and Auburn is shit at the QB position with their whiteboy midget that can't throw it 40 yards. We'll see Franklin the entire 2nd half after their offense does nothing the whole first half. MSU 21 Auburn 17

We'll revisit this next Sunday. We'll see how our secondary does against him. He threw for over 200 against LSU's draft picks in their Secondary

[TaleofTwoDogs]

Add to the fact that, historically, State always comes out of a bye week in low gear. You would think it would be the opposite in light of the fact it is Auburn. I think we struggle until a momentum shift (like a Ref screw-up) turns the fans into a frenzy. JMO.

[Todd4State]

We are home and have a week off to prepare. They are way more physical upfront than us. A good gameplan and a loud home crowd will help give us a chance. Need a big effort next Saturday to pull out a win.

I agree. Auburn is not nearly as bad as some of our fans think.

[Goldendawg]

When we win next Saturday against the Tigers, Malzahn will also be "Miles" away from an SEC head coaching by Sunday morn!

[Dawg61]

I agree. Auburn is not nearly as bad as some of our fans think.

Oh you agreed with Random Poster

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/400x/61643290.jpg

[HSVDawg]

Thats bullshit. Nobody is "scared" of Auburn. Its just easy to see they are much better than us. This Auburn team is pretty good and getting better by the week. They are playing lots of young guys and getting better because of each week's experience.

Another effective troll job to drum up a 2 page thread. "Much" better than is is a gross overstatement. LSU was supposed to be much better than us and way more physical upfront too, and we played them to within three with a chance to win on the road if it wasn't for bad personnel decisions, a horrible roughing the kicker call, and extremely questionable playcalling down the stretch.

If we correctly manage the personnel in our offensive backfield and get the Mullen from the South Carolina game calling plays, we will beat their brakes off. If we don't, it doesn't matter one bit what Auburn does because we'll just shoot ourselves in the foot all day.

[Dawg61]

We'll revisit this next Sunday. We'll see how our secondary does against him. He threw for over 200 against LSU's draft picks in their Secondary

He'll probably throw for 250+ on us but that doesn't mean he'll beat us. Mullen has Malzahn figured out like Freezus has Mullen figured out.

[HSVDawg]

I agree. Auburn is not nearly as bad as some of our fans think.

I don't think anyone thinks they are bad. We will have to play well to win for sure. But Auburn isn't "way better" than any SEC team except maybe Vandy, USC, or Kentucky, and we are also way better than those same teams. It will be a fairly even matchup.

[Jack Lambert]

It wasn't dead in 2014 against A&M at 11:00.

People want to see good football. That's all. If we play well, the crowd will be good

there was a lot of empty seats. I was there.

[Jack Lambert]

I 'm not saying we are going to win but I hope all you come on here and eat crow if we do win. I always see you folks say we suck and we are going to lose but I never see you admit you are wrong when you are. Some of you better man up when you are wrong. It's like you want us to suck. I don't understand you and I mean you as a group.

[HSVDawg]

We'll revisit this next Sunday. We'll see how our secondary does against him. He threw for over 200 against LSU's draft picks in their Secondary

Oh my god, 200 yards? Batten down the hatches, looks like we got the second coming of Peyton Manning coming to town.

[msstate7]

I 'm not saying we are going to win but I hope all you come on here and eat crow if we do win.

Random wouldn't admit he was wrong for anything. He'd rather we get thrashed and be right than win and be wrong

[Dawg61]

Oh my god, 200 yards? Batten down the hatches, looks like we got the second coming of Peyton Manning coming to town.

http://www.lolriot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Napoleon-Dynamite-GIF-Uncle-Rico-throwing-steak.gif

[preachermatt83]

Being a realist gets your threads deleted. That's what it's come to around here ? Lol.

[preachermatt83]

there was a lot of empty seats. I was there.

Good Lord are you ever right? About anything? The place was packed. Smh.

[preachermatt83]

I agree. Auburn is not nearly as bad as some of our fans think.

Yup.

[SDDawg]

We are home and have a week off to prepare. They are way more physical upfront than us. A good gameplan and a loud home crowd will help give us a chance. Need a big effort next Saturday to pull out a win.

Cool.

[Dawg61]

Being a realist gets your threads deleted. That's what it's come to around here ? Lol.

Realist isn't what you were.

9/26/2015 Auburn, AL 9 17 MSU winner
10/11/2014 Starkville, MS 23 38 MSU winner
9/14/2013 Auburn, AL 24 20 Auburn winner
9/8/2012 Starkville, MS 10 28 MSU winner

[lamont]

Realist isn't what you were.

9/26/2015 Auburn, AL 9 17 MSU winner
10/11/2014 Starkville, MS 23 38 MSU winner
9/14/2013 Auburn, AL 24 20 Auburn winner
9/8/2012 Starkville, MS 10 28 MSU winner

what does that have to do with our game next week?

[DancingRabbit]

Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
Realist isn't what you were.

9/26/2015 Auburn, AL 9 17 MSU winner
10/11/2014 Starkville, MS 23 38 MSU winner
9/14/2013 Auburn, AL 24 20 Auburn winner
9/8/2012 Starkville, MS 10 28 MSU winner


what does that have to do with our game next week?

Wasn't Auburn favored in all of those?

[Dawgface]

Random wouldn't admit he was wrong for anything. He'd rather we get thrashed and be right than win and be wrong

Correcto.


Being a realist gets your threads deleted. That's what it's come to around here ? Lol.

Or who does the posting.

[Cloak]

We are home and have a week off to prepare. They are way more physical upfront than us. A good gameplan and a loud home crowd will help give us a chance. Need a big effort next Saturday to pull out a win.

Very insightful and helpful post***

[Really Clark?]

We'll revisit this next Sunday. We'll see how our secondary does against him. He threw for over 200 against LSU's draft picks in their Secondary

And he threw for 126 against A & M and 140 against Clemson.

[preachermatt83]

what does that have to do with our game next week?

Lol, I wondered the same.

[Dawg61]

what does that have to do with our game next week?

Hahaha so recent past history in a series now holds no bearing ever or only when it fits your argument? They are literally 1 second away from being 2-3 right now and you're hyping them like they are Bama. Oh yea and they have a midget Rudy try hard whiteboy playing QB for them. He almost has to jump to get the ball over the line. Seriously.

[Dawg61]

Lol, I wondered the same.


Y'all are making it too easy to identify the dumbass pack.

[Commercecomet24]

Random wouldn't admit he was wrong for anything. He'd rather we get thrashed and be right than win and be wrong

Nail on head!

[lamont]

Wasn't Auburn favored in all of those?

what does that have to do with anything? We were favored over South Alabama

[lamont]

Random wouldn't admit he was wrong for anything. He'd rather we get thrashed and be right than win and be wrong

Hmmmm...remind me of the last time Random was wrong about Football?

[Dawg61]

Hmmmm...remind me of the last time Random was wrong about Football?

Everyday with your argument Whittingham is better than Mullen

[msstate7]

Hmmmm...remind me of the last time Random was wrong about Football?

Lsu natty this year

[lamont]

Lsu natty this year

I said they would win the NC? Link?

[lamont]

Everyday with your argument Whittingham is better than Mullen

Whittingham is 4-0 this year. Explain how Mullen is better please

[msstate7]

I said they would win the NC? Link?

Challenge for it was I think the jist of what you said

[lamont]

Challenge for it was I think the jist of what you said

So you just made up some shit basically? ok

[msstate7]

So you just made up some shit basically? ok

Whatever you wanna believe... you were on the lsu hype train all offseason. You also said Kentucky would have the best or 2nd best wr's and Kentucky would challenge for a bowl. You win though bc I'm not searching thru weeks and months of threads

[TopDog58]

We will lose because ***** ass MSU fans are incapable of cheering at 11am apparently

[lamont]

Whatever you wanna believe... you were on the lsu hype train all offseason. You also said Kentucky would have the best or 2nd best wr's and Kentucky would challenge for a bowl. You win though bc I'm not searching thru weeks and months of threads

Nobody doubts LSU's talent. That's why their coach and OC got fired. LSU will be a factor down the stretch.

If you think Kentucky is a sure win for us- I dont know what to tell you. That's going to be a war for us

[Todd4State]

We will lose because ***** ass MSU fans are incapable of cheering at 11am apparently

No. We'll lose because we can't cover anyone or block anyone decent. If it takes our fans going absolutely bananas for our team to perform what does that say about our team?

[GreenheadDawg]

We will lose because ***** ass MSU fans are incapable of cheering at 11am apparently

Yeahhhhhh that's why we will lose.

[preachermatt83]

No. We'll lose because we can't cover anyone or block anyone decent. If it takes our fans going absolutely bananas for our team to perform what does that say about our team?

Mic=Dropped

[preachermatt83]

Yeahhhhhh that's why we will lose.

I lol'd

[BeardoMSU]

I'm a Mod- my threads dont get locked.

Interesting you received moderator status after such a short time as a member to the site. Well done!***

[BeardoMSU]

Mic=Dropped

Preach, don't you have a sermon to prepare? Get to gettin'.

[Todd4State]

Interesting you received moderator status after such a short time as a member to the site. Well done!***

Kind of random huh?

[lamont]

Interesting you received moderator status after such a short time as a member to the site. Well done!***

I'm banging Slickdawg's sister

[Dawg61]

Whittingham is 4-0 this year. Explain how Mullen is better please

Whole resume bruh or does that not matter here too

[lamont]

Whole resume bruh or does that not matter here too

ok? What on Mullen's resume makes him better than Whittingham?

[Really Clark?]

ok? What on Mullen's resume makes him better than Whittingham?

Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, and Dak. Mullen's record is better than Whittingham's in a Power conference.

[lamont]

Alex Smith, Tim Tebow, and Dak. Mullen's record is better than Whittingham's in a Power conference.

Mullen has Dak.

Meyer had Smith and Tebow

[lamont]

Mullen's record is better than Whittingham's in a Power conference.

Mullen is 57-37 at State and plays 4 patsies every year

Whittingham is 56-38 at Utah since they have joined the Pac-10- much better overall- and plays a very good schedule.

Nothing on Mullen;s resume says he is better than Whittingham. Whittingham has beaten Alabama- something Mullen will never do

[Really Clark?]

Mullen has Dak.

Meyer has Smith and Tebow

Whatever, be asinine if you want. Just for that, Dan's work with Relf is added as well. How bout Whittingham has had back to back losing seasons in years 8 & 9. You would have fired him for that if he was here.

[Dawg61]

Mullen is 57-37 at State and plays 4 patsies every year

Whittingham is 56-38 at Utah since they have joined the Pac-10- much better overall- and plays a very good schedule.

Nothing on Mullen;s resume says he is better than Whittingham. Whittingham has beaten Alabama- something Mullen will never do

Get back to me when Whittingham is #1 in the country for 6 straight weeks

[Really Clark?]

Mullen is 57-37 at State and plays 4 patsies every year

Whittingham is 56-38 at Utah since they have joined the Pac-10- much better overall- and plays a very good schedule.

Nothing on Mullen;s resume says he is better than Whittingham. Whittingham has beaten Alabama- something Mullen will never do

No. Whittingham is 41-26 in the weaker PAC 12 with 2 losing seasons.

ETA. Make that 41-27... they just lost.

[lamont]

Whatever, be asinine if you want. Just for that, Dan's work with Relf is added as well. How bout Whittingham has had back to back losing seasons in years 8 & 9. You would have fired him for that if he was here.

No. Whittingham didnt pimp himself around the nation to make the University look bad. Coaching is more than just wins/losses. My problem with Mullen is way deeper than wins/losses

[lamont]

Get back to me when Whittingham is #1 in the country for 6 straight weeks

So you are moving the goalposts- ok

[preachermatt83]

Preach, don't you have a sermon to prepare? Get to gettin'.

I usually finish sermon prep well before Sat night. Try to be done by thurs night.

[preachermatt83]

No. Whittingham didnt pimp himself around the nation to make the University look bad. Coaching is more than just wins/losses. My problem with Mullen is way deeper than wins/losses

This all day!

[lamont]

No. Whittingham is 41-26 in the weaker PAC 12 with 2 losing seasons.

ETA. Make that 41-27... they just lost.

Dan Mullen is 27-31 vs the SEC

[Dawg61]

So you are moving the goalposts- ok

This post makes zero sense

[GreenheadDawg]

Get back to me when Whittingham is #1 in the country for 6 straight weeks

Yeh we were #1 until we actually played the #1 team. Kinda like every year they rank USC and ND in the top 15 when in reality they have no place being there.

[Really Clark?]

No. Whittingham didnt pimp himself around the nation to make the University look bad. Coaching is more than just wins/losses. My problem with Mullen is way deeper than wins/losses

Whittingham has gotten into what? 1 - 2 different pissing matches with Utah over money? He may be right but it was known he was interested if they didn't give him want he wanted, and you know that. That's why you've pimped him for a while now

And again in his 8th & 9th seasons he was 5-7 each year. Replace a guy for a losing season in year 8 with a guy who had a losing season in year 8.

[Coursesuper]

This post makes zero sense

Haven't played much ball have you.

[preachermatt83]

Whittingham has gotten into what? 1 - 2 different pissing matches with Utah over money? He may be right but it was known he was interested if they didn't give him want he wanted, and you know that. That's why you've pimped him for a while now

And again in his 8th & 9th seasons he was 5-7 each year. Replace a guy for a losing season in year 8 with a guy who had a losing season in year 8.

Wittingham's issues with Utah were not about money.

[Really Clark?]

Dan Mullen is 27-31 vs the SEC

21-26 in conference play for Kyle.

[DudyDawg]

Whittingham is 4-0 this year. Explain how Mullen is better please

Not anymore. 7 plays inside the 10 on last drive to win, couldn't get in

[Really Clark?]

Wittingham's issues with Utah were not about money.

Yeah it was

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/1992101-155/utah-football-sources-say-growing-rift

[Bothrops]

I was just in a discussion about this game, and have surmised that this is the first time we've played Auburn since 2010, where they've had the better team.

Auburn has quietly been improving as a team every week. Other than Fitz getting more vertical throws down against UMASS, we haven't improved anywhere.

I don't see a W here.

[Dawg61]

Cal 28 Utah 23

[HSVDawg]

Mullen is 57-37 at State and plays 4 patsies every year

Whittingham is 56-38 at Utah since they have joined the Pac-10- much better overall- and plays a very good schedule.

Nothing on Mullen;s resume says he is better than Whittingham. Whittingham has beaten Alabama- something Mullen will never do

Oh. My. God. You are really comparing Utah's schedule to the gauntlet of the SEC West? Pretty sure you've lost it.

[Commercecomet24]

21-26 in conference play for Kyle.

In a much weaker conference than the sec west. Facts hurt.

[Commercecomet24]

You think Mullen struggles recruiting, how do you think a devout Mormon like whiittingham would be able to recruit in the Deep South?

[shrimp]

Mullen is 57-37 at State and plays 4 patsies every year

Whittingham is 56-38 at Utah since they have joined the Pac-10- much better overall- and plays a very good schedule.

Nothing on Mullen;s resume says he is better than Whittingham. Whittingham has beaten Alabama- something Mullen will never do

Crooms beat Alabama, too. Twice.

[Really Clark?]

Oh. My. God. You are really comparing Utah's schedule to the gauntlet of the SEC West? Pretty sure you've lost it.

And that record since going the PAC 12 wrong.

[DudyDawg]

Oh. My. God. You are really comparing Utah's schedule to the gauntlet of the SEC West? Pretty sure you've lost it.

On another thread he will talk about hard it is

[preachermatt83]

Yeah it was

http://www.sltrib.com/sports/1992101-155/utah-football-sources-say-growing-rift

" Willingham and Hill were on poor terms at the start of the season". Those poor terms had nothing to do with money.

[anubus]

So tired of hearing Auburn will beat us.tsun will beat us.....I'm saying F that!!!!!!!!!! Lets beat Auburn and set the care bears into ncaa purgatory with a BIG FAT BUCKY FREEZE LOOKING LOSS!!!!!!! The Kang used to lay the smack on those klan worshipping freaks and those days will be coming back....BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!

[JoseBrown]

But, but, but we beat them last year....that's gotta count for something, right?

[Really Clark?]

" Willingham and Hill were on poor terms at the start of the season". Those poor terms had nothing to do with money.

“Those sources, who requested anonymity so as not to not compromise their ties to the program, say Whittingham and Hill were on poor terms before the start of the season, and that the rift widened in recent weeks. The two were scheduled to meet Friday, a source said.”

The reported conflict stems from Hill’s inability to provide the financial backing for Whittingham to retain his coordinators. “A source said Hill’s inability to lock up Sitake made Whittingham feel that Hill was trying to sabotage his program,” Piper added.

With Whittingham growing dissatisfaction with Utah and Hill’s leadership, the Utes’ head coach is actively searching for positions around college football. “The source confirmed speculation that Whittingham has met with administrators at other schools,” Piper continued.

[Jack Lambert]

Good Lord are you ever right? About anything? The place was packed. Smh.

First of all a real preacher would use the lords name in vain however the ends of upper decks were empty. Personally I think since we only have four home games left and we are playing Auburn the stands will be fairly packed.

[Tripp McNeely]

So tired of hearing Auburn will beat us.tsun will beat us.....I'm saying F that!!!!!!!!!! Lets beat Auburn and set the care bears into ncaa purgatory with a BIG FAT BUCKY FREEZE LOOKING LOSS!!!!!!! The Kang used to lay the smack on those klan worshipping freaks and those days will be coming back....BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!

For the love of Pete this!! ^^^^^

Some have REALLY forgot the true mission! "They" have it figured out! "We" NEED to act more like them...this is NOT it!!

[Liverpooldawg]

For the love of Pete this!! ^^^^^

Some have REALLY forgot the true mission! "They" have it figured out! "We" NEED to act more like them...this is NOT it!!

YES! This damn board has become a competition to see who can put our team down. How in the hell did that become cool? I say to heck with everyone doing that. Lets go DAWGS!

[Commercecomet24]

YES! This damn board has become a competition to see who can put our team down. How in the hell did that become cool? I say to heck with everyone doing that. Lets go DAWGS!

Every thread no matter how it starts, devolves into a Mullen/we suck thread and then those defending Mullen/us.

[preachermatt83]

First of all a real preacher would use the lords name in vain however the ends of upper decks were empty. Personally I think since we only have four home games left and we are playing Auburn the stands will be fairly packed.

Lol. Give me a break.

[preachermatt83]

“Those sources, who requested anonymity so as not to not compromise their ties to the program, say Whittingham and Hill were on poor terms before the start of the season, and that the rift widened in recent weeks. The two were scheduled to meet Friday, a source said.”

The reported conflict stems from Hill’s inability to provide the financial backing for Whittingham to retain his coordinators. “A source said Hill’s inability to lock up Sitake made Whittingham feel that Hill was trying to sabotage his program,” Piper added.

With Whittingham growing dissatisfaction with Utah and Hill’s leadership, the Utes’ head coach is actively searching for positions around college football. “The source confirmed speculation that Whittingham has met with administrators at other schools,” Piper continued.

The initial bad blood between the two had nothing to do with money. It had to do with something that would make you say he's even more like Mullen. Lol.

[EngDawg]

Every thread no matter how it starts, devolves into a Mullen/we suck thread and then those defending Mullen/us.

Commercecomet24's law: any discussion on ED no matter the topic will evenventually contain a post by RP34 calling for Mullen to leave.

[Liverpooldawg]

So random, is Cal better than USA?

[Commercecomet24]

Commercecomet24's law: any discussion on ED no matter the topic will evenventually contain a post by RP34 calling for Mullen to leave.

Now that's funny!

[Bass Chaser]

Anyone recruiting in the top 20 is/should be better than us. We don't recruit that well and never have when yoy look at 4-year recruiting avg.

[Tripp McNeely]

YES! This damn board has become a competition to see who can put our team down. How in the hell did that become cool? I say to heck with everyone doing that. Lets go DAWGS!

It's ****ing stupid! I am ****ing flabbergasted as to what some of these morons think they are accomplishing with the constant stupid-ass negativity! I'm begging, pleading with anyone, RP, Todd...anyone to explain to me how this shit helps??

[Really Clark?]

The initial bad blood between the two had nothing to do with money. It had to do with something that would make you say he's even more like Mullen. Lol.

"when sources told The Tribune and others that Whittingham and Hill were on bad terms, in part due to Hill's decision to limit lower-level assistants to single-year deals going forward."

"According to reports from the Salt Lake Tribune and Fox Sports' Bruce Feldman, there's a growing "rift" between Whittingham and Utah athletic director Chris Hill. Their relationship is described as "severly fractured," and the problems supposedly began before the season even started.

Reportedly, Whittingham is angered over the athletic department's willingness -- or lack thereof -- to make more money available for his assistants. Whittingham reportedly feels as though Hill is "trying to sabotage" his program.

Whittingham was also less than impressed by the contract extension offer Hill proposed, further complicating the situation."

"The rift apparently started when Whittingham emailed Hill to try to lock up Defensive coordinator Kalani Sitake to a multi-year deal that included a well deserved pay raises. Hill did offer Sitake a multi-year deals, but the pay raises were lower than Whittingham suggested.

Sitake was a bone of contention between Hill and Whittingham. He was ultimately lured to Oregon State by a more lucrative and longer-term offer, said a source, adding that he still might have been willing to stay at Utah for less money and a shorter deal than OSU offered.

Emails obtained via Utah’s open records law show that Whittingham had suggested “a significant increase” in Sitake’s pay. Hill then offered what he considered a sizable raise for the defensive coordinator, a figure that was redacted in the Dec. 5 email but amounted to an increase of $50,000 per year over a two-year deal, according to a source.”

[GTHOM]

I'm a Mod- my threads dont get locked.

Plus- I'm actually talking specifics- not just "Zuburn will beat us badly". They are alot better than us upfront- and it allows them to run the ball more effectively as well as have more time to throw the football. Teams have to bring safeties up vs them to help vs the run and that creates big passing plays. White has done a great job throwing the football to young WR's. Will be the match-up to watch Saturday

Their defense is nice but are you seriously talking up auburn offensively? We are plenty good enough up front to slow down the run and make Sean White beat us passing. On the road. In a must win game for us. Assuming we show up ready to play, which is a crap shoot with Mullen I know, I still like our chances. If we lose Danny Two Glove's seat gets a lot hotter

[GTHOM]

there was a lot of empty seats. I was there.

I was there too and I dont remember a lot of empty seats. I remember it being loud as hell

[GTHOM]

So you just made up some shit basically? ok

I agree with some of what you say but if you think anyone takes the time to screenshot your posts or not just you anyone elses just to go back and prove you wrong on a message board....you and whoever does that is taking this whole message board thing WAY too seriously.

[GTHOM]

Get back to me when Whittingham is #1 in the country for 6 straight weeks

And didnt do a damn thing after that. Essentially it meant nothing other than MSU making money off of some T shirts and our coach checking out after we blew it

[TUSK]

worst. ED thread. maybe evah.



AU DL vs MSU OL will likely be the deciding factor....

edge: AU

[Todd4State]

It's ****ing stupid! I am ****ing flabbergasted as to what some of these morons think they are accomplishing with the constant stupid-ass negativity! I'm begging, pleading with anyone, RP, Todd...anyone to explain to me how this shit helps??

I highly doubt anything I say about MSU athletics helps or hurts in the grand scheme of things. That probably applies to most everyone else too.

I'm flabbergasted that you think any of us do.

[EngDawg]

And didnt do a damn thing after that. Essentially it meant nothing other than MSU making money off of some T shirts and our coach checking out after we blew it

This has to be the most ridculous post I have seen in awhile. Let's fire Mullen because his ceiling is 10-2. Brilliant. Let him go and our ceiling will go back to being 3-9.

[cheewgumm]

We just need to make sure we schedule 7-8 wins , keep going to bowls , recruiting will pick up, etc...

This is how you build a program.*****

[Dawg61]

And didnt do a damn thing after that. Essentially it meant nothing other than MSU making money off of some T shirts and our coach checking out after we blew it

I'm sorry I didn't hear you answer, did Whittingham get Utah to #1 in the BCS standings?

[BB30]

Just ignore the ego man. It is that simple random either has an ego the size of Texas or he is trying to generate fuel clicks etc for the website. Anytime he is proved wrong he leaves the thread until his next great epiphany pops in his head about how terrible mullen and our football program is. I really will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is doing it for views and clicks as I would hope he isn't as egotistical as he can come off. Surely nobody would base themselves off of message bord supremacy. Bravo for admitting that you have never been wrong about anything we small minded people can only hope to be as great as The RANDOM is when it comes to message boarding. I salute the most interesting message boarder in the world.

[BulldogBear]

Add to the fact that, historically, State always comes out of a bye week in low gear. You would think it would be the opposite in light of the fact it is Auburn. I think we struggle until a momentum shift (like a Ref screw-up) turns the fans into a frenzy. JMO.

They better figure out how to buck that trend then. This is, IMHO, in effect the biggest game of the year. Most likely has bowling or not bowling as one of the things determined by the outcome. If we can't get up for this game and gameplan decently then God help us.

I don't think we split Auburn and BooYoo. I think we're 4-2 October 16th or 2-4. The former psychologically affects the latter. BYU is not good but is good enough to beat us if lethargy and apathy infects our team.

[msstate7]

They better figure out how to buck that trend then. This is, IMHO, in effect the biggest game of the year. Most likely has bowling or not bowling as one of the things determined by the outcome. If we can't get up for this game and gameplan decently then God help us.

I don't think we split Auburn and BooYoo. I think we're 4-2 October 16th or 2-4. The former psychologically affects the latter. BYU is not good but is good enough to beat us if lethargy and apathy infects our team.

Under Mullen, we're 4-3 after bye week with all 3 losses to bama (2) and lsu (1). We've played auburn once after a bye and won in '14

[lamont]

Just ignore the ego man. It is that simple random either has an ego the size of Texas or he is trying to generate fuel clicks etc for the website. Anytime he is proved wrong he leaves the thread until his next great epiphany pops in his head about how terrible mullen and our football program is. I really will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he is doing it for views and clicks as I would hope he isn't as egotistical as he can come off. Surely nobody would base themselves off of message bord supremacy. Bravo for admitting that you have never been wrong about anything we small minded people can only hope to be as great as The RANDOM is when it comes to message boarding. I salute the most interesting message boarder in the world.

proved wrong when?

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?46764-Where-we-are-as-a-program

Like in this thread?

[Quaoarsking]

In other news, "terrible coach" Mike Leach has now beaten Oregon two years in a row. This is the year after he was a missed FG away from playing in the Pac-12 Championship Game.

[lamont]

Under Mullen, we're 4-3 after bye week with all 3 losses to bama (2) and lsu (1). We've played auburn once after a bye and won in '14

good info there

[GTHOM]

I'm sorry I didn't hear you answer, did Whittingham get Utah to #1 in the BCS standings?

No he didnt. What does that mean though? Nothing. I dont want Whittingham over Mullen I agree with you I was just saying the we were number 1 deal is overrated it doesnt really mean anything

[BB30]

proved wrong when?

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?46764-Where-we-are-as-a-program

Like in this thread?
Man I told you we all strive to be as good as you the all knowing greatest message boarder of all time congrats. My thoughts are... And I could be completely wrong but message boards are generally for discussion both positive and negative. I really don't have a problem with people being negative but to go into every thread touting something awful about a team you supposedly pull for is a little much... Btw you nailed hunter renfroe. if message boarding was that important to me I could go dig up several threads that you were wrong on on many different topics. I don't understand if you are such a good coach and could run a successful sec program then why the hell are you not coaching in the sec? You seem to know everything and assume anyone that disagrees with you has no clue what they are talking about. I just think it is hilarious that is all. Oh and whitingham? Yea great coach there you nailed that one.

Edit: also everything you posted in that link was pretty easy to see nothing impressive on that. We have had a terrible ol for 2 years now and they were only serviceable in 14 not great. We aren't very good this year I have no problem admitting that. But it doesn't need to be beaten like a horse that has died 36 times. Just don't see the point in posting on Msu message board about how great auburn is ... Discuss the game pros cons leave it at that

[Todd4State]

Man I told you we all strive to be as good as you the all knowing greatest message boarder of all time congrats. My thoughts are... And I could be completely wrong but message boards are generally for discussion both positive and negative. I really don't have a problem with people being negative but to go into every thread touting something awful about a team you supposedly pull for is a little much... Btw you nailed hunter renfroe. if message boarding was that important to me I could go dig up several threads that you were wrong on on many different topics. I don't understand if you are such a good coach and could run a successful sec program then why the hell are you not coaching in the sec? You seem to know everything and assume anyone that disagrees with you has no clue what they are talking about. I just think it is hilarious that is all. Oh and whitingham? Yea great coach there you nailed that one.

Edit: also everything you posted in that link was pretty easy to see nothing impressive on that. We have had a terrible ol for 2 years now and they were only serviceable in 14 not great. We aren't very good this year I have no problem admitting that. But it doesn't need to be beaten like a horse that has died 36 times. Just don't see the point in posting on Msu message board about how great auburn is ... Discuss the game pros cons leave it at that
The thing is the pros and cons are the same every week because we do the same damn thing every week. Win or lose.

[lamont]

Edit: also everything you posted in that link was pretty easy to see nothing impressive on that.

The consensus around here was that this team was a shoo-in to win 8 games in 2016. That I had an "agenda" against Mullen saying we would struggle to win 6. Turns out we just arent very good and will struggle to win 6. So stop with the "everything you said is easy to see". It wasnt easy to see for most everyone until South Alabama happened.

[Dawg61]

No he didnt. What does that mean though? Nothing. I dont want Whittingham over Mullen I agree with you I was just saying the we were number 1 deal is overrated it doesnt really mean anything

It does mean something. Just last week I tune into Dak playing Sunday Night Football starting for the #1 valued franchise in any sport anywhere and within the first five minutes of the game they mention "he took Mississippi State to #1 in the country". See we get recognized for it in many angles now. Mullen & Dak are connected at the hip now and that #1 mention just keeps happening.

[msstate7]

It does mean something. Just last week I tune into Dak playing Sunday Night Football starting for the #1 valued franchise in any sport anywhere and within the first five minutes of the game they mention "he took Mississippi State to #1 in the country". See we get recognized for it in many angles now. Mullen & Dak are connected at the hip now and that #1 mention just keeps happening.

The only ones that minimize our #1 ranking are state fans. We're our own worst enemies

[GTHOM]

It does mean something. Just last week I tune into Dak playing Sunday Night Football starting for the #1 valued franchise in any sport anywhere and within the first five minutes of the game they mention "he took Mississippi State to #1 in the country". See we get recognized for it in many angles now. Mullen & Dak are connected at the hip now and that #1 mention just keeps happening.

Ok. And we're sitting here now about to play a must win game against a bad team at home and dont know if we can win. Tell me how we capitalized on it

[Dawg61]

Ok. And we're sitting here now about to play a must win game against a bad team at home and dont know if we can win. Tell me how we capitalized on it

Keytaon Thompson

[BB30]

[QUOTE=Random Poster;623766]The consensus around here was that this team was a shoo-in to win 8 games in 2016. That I had an "agenda" against Mullen saying we would struggle to win 6. Turns out we just arent very good and will struggle to win 6. So stop with the "everything you said is easy to see". It wasnt easy to see for most everyone until South Alabama happened

Don't get so upset man. I was just letting you know you were not the only state fan to think this might be a down year. And it was pretty easy to see, when a team loses a player like Dak you are going to take a step back. We weren't very talented last year either. There might have been a few people that set the bar at 8 but most set it around 6-7. Again sorry for ruffling your feathers and telling you you were not the only person to see this happening. The only difference is you think Mullen is the #1 problem that is what makes it #agenda. Is he a great great coach, I don't know yet. I do know he is still young and has time to learn and has done enough here to warrant another year. But, like I said nobody is trying to take your message board trophy away. keep batting 1.000 its impressive.

[Liverpooldawg]

I highly doubt anything I say about MSU athletics helps or hurts in the grand scheme of things. That probably applies to most everyone else too.

I'm flabbergasted that you think any of us do.

I would almost guarantee you that some of your posts are on paper that circulates in Oxford during recruiting.

[Liverpooldawg]

The consensus around here was that this team was a shoo-in to win 8 games in 2016. That I had an "agenda" against Mullen saying we would struggle to win 6. Turns out we just arent very good and will struggle to win 6. So stop with the "everything you said is easy to see". It wasnt easy to see for most everyone until South Alabama happened.
It wasn't a consensus. That implies that most everyone thought so. There were dissenters, me for one. I said before the season stated I'd be happy with 6-6 this year.

[Tbonewannabe]

[QUOTE=Random Poster;623766]The consensus around here was that this team was a shoo-in to win 8 games in 2016. That I had an "agenda" against Mullen saying we would struggle to win 6. Turns out we just arent very good and will struggle to win 6. So stop with the "everything you said is easy to see". It wasnt easy to see for most everyone until South Alabama happened

Don't get so upset man. I was just letting you know you were not the only state fan to think this might be a down year. And it was pretty easy to see, when a team loses a player like Dak you are going to take a step back. We weren't very talented last year either. There might have been a few people that set the bar at 8 but most set it around 6-7. Again sorry for ruffling your feathers and telling you you were not the only person to see this happening. The only difference is you think Mullen is the #1 problem that is what makes it #agenda. Is he a great great coach, I don't know yet. I do know he is still young and has time to learn and has done enough here to warrant another year. But, like I said nobody is trying to take your message board trophy away. keep batting 1.000 its impressive.

I thought we would win 7 with 8 a possibility and 6 minimum. With our home games and our OOC, we should have 6 at least going into this year. Our 4 OOC plus USCe at home and UK should get us to 6 without even pulling any type of upset but that was before South Alabama. Losing the first just means we need to win 1 of A&M (more than likely L), AU (at home makes it a toss up), Ark (at home gives us a chance), Bama ( LOL), and UNM (always a chance at an upset but probably not). So looking at the schedule, we need to win either AU or Ark. Winning both plus any other games are gravy this year.

[the59dawg]

there was a lot of empty seats. I was there.

Temp will be low 80's w North wind, few clouds. Other than 11 am, great day for football. Will need sunscreen.

[lamont]

[QUOTE=Random Poster;623766]The consensus around here was that this team was a shoo-in to win 8 games in 2016. That I had an "agenda" against Mullen saying we would struggle to win 6. Turns out we just arent very good and will struggle to win 6. So stop with the "everything you said is easy to see". It wasnt easy to see for most everyone until South Alabama happened

Don't get so upset man. I was just letting you know you were not the only state fan to think this might be a down year. And it was pretty easy to see, when a team loses a player like Dak you are going to take a step back. We weren't very talented last year either. There might have been a few people that set the bar at 8 but most set it around 6-7. Again sorry for ruffling your feathers and telling you you were not the only person to see this happening. The only difference is you think Mullen is the #1 problem that is what makes it #agenda. Is he a great great coach, I don't know yet. I do know he is still young and has time to learn and has done enough here to warrant another year. But, like I said nobody is trying to take your message board trophy away. keep batting 1.000 its impressive.


Upset? Nobody is upset. We just talking up in here