When I joined this message board three years ago........

[Jack Lambert]

There was no personal attacks on other posters. Everyone disagreed on stuff which is ok but now there are some hash stuff said to each other. That was the part of Six Pack I did not like, "the personal attacks". This board is becoming much like that one.

[Political Hack]

Valid point. Clean it up guys.

Members, if you see something that's unacceptable, please report the post so mods will be notified ASAP.

[starkvegasdawg]

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[Todd4State]

I concur.

[Dawgbite]

We eat our own, we don't know any better. Somebody gives Ole Miss fans a rope, they all grab one end and start pulling. You give M- State fans a rope and we separate it into individual strands, tie a knot in the middle, and see how many different directions we can pull it in.

[dawgday166]

This seems like a good idea.

[BB30]

We eat our own, we don't know any better. Somebody gives Ole Miss fans a rope, they all grab one end and start pulling. You give M- State fans a rope and we separate it into individual strands, tie a knot in the middle, and see how many different directions we can pull it in.
Out of curiosity, what do you think the cause of this is?

[MadDawg]

We eat our own, we don't know any better. Somebody gives Ole Miss fans a rope, they all grab one end and start pulling. You give M- State fans a rope and we separate it into individual strands, tie a knot in the middle, and see how many different directions we can pull it in.

At M-State it's always a competition to see who can hate our coach first.

[DownwardDawg]

I agree!!!! And the language is horrible these days!

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

A thread complaining about people complaining...go figure

[Statecoachingblows**]

Maybe just have a "venting" thread/forum? Limited access to the lurker crew based on post count, rep, etc. like some of the other forums on here. Simply go in bi+<h about what you want then go on about your business. Remove the "reply" button it's simply to get it said and be done with it. Removing the back and forth dialogue should help the personal attack stuff, an Elitedawgs confessional if you will. The bully pulpit? I don't know just a thought, could have fun with in title and drive a few lurkers nuts wondering what's said in there.

[Dawgbite]

Out of curiosity, what do you think the cause of this is?

Well just my opinion but, outside of a couple of years with Jackie, we have never known success in football prior to Mullen's arrival. We just don't know how to handle winning nor what to do to sustain it. Age of the fan has a lot to do with it also, the fifty something has an entirely different view of State athletics than a twenty something and sometimes those views clash. I feel that most of us that attended MSU or are just fans of the school did so because the engineering and technical aspect that is the backbone of our university represents our personality. We try to analyze every detail and dissect every aspect instead of just looking at some pie in the sky ending that the liberal arts bastion up north is chasing.

[BrunswickDawg]

Out of curiosity, what do you think the cause of this is?

It's a massive inferiority complex that is part of MSU Sports Induced PTSD. We have come to expect failure. So in order to prevent failure we pick apart successful coaches and players to justify our belief that we will fail. It then gets whipped up into a froth of discontent that eventually makes its way up from the fringe to the mainstream. It then induces panic at the first sign of not having a good season - or by being let down during a successful season that did not result in the ultimate championship. With so many engineers in our base the natural progression is to to try to fix what is broken - even if it isn't broken. This leads to the general belief that what isn't broken actually can't be fixed, so we have to blow it up and start over from scratch to fix the over engineering of the fix that wasn't needed in the first place.

(sorry if I'm picking on Engineers, but I just dealt with a stupid AU dirt mover who can't figure out retention ponds to save his life)

[Tripp McNeely]

I agree!!!! And the language is horrible these days!

Can we still say **** om?

[Dawgbite]

It's a massive inferiority complex that is part of MSU Sports Induced PTSD. We have come to expect failure. So in order to prevent failure we pick apart successful coaches and players to justify our belief that we will fail. It then gets whipped up into a froth of discontent that eventually makes its way up from the fringe to the mainstream. It then induces panic at the first sign of not having a good season - or by being let down during a successful season that did not result in the ultimate championship. With so many engineers in our base the natural progression is to to try to fix what is broken - even if it isn't broken. This leads to the general belief that what isn't broken actually can't be fixed, so we have to blow it up and start over from scratch to fix the over engineering of the fix that wasn't needed in the first place.

(sorry if I'm picking on Engineers, but I just dealt with a stupid AU dirt mover who can't figure out retention ponds to save his life)

Very well stated!

[shannondawg]

Normally I would preface this with dumbass, but under the new rules will just say this. We had some really good years under Bob Tyler! Just kidding, I don't do that.

I totally agree with this thread, we can all be civil as I imagine all of us probably have more maroon t shirts than we actually need.

[Gutter Cobreh]

It's a massive inferiority complex that is part of MSU Sports Induced PTSD. We have come to expect failure. So in order to prevent failure we pick apart successful coaches and players to justify our belief that we will fail. It then gets whipped up into a froth of discontent that eventually makes its way up from the fringe to the mainstream. It then induces panic at the first sign of not having a good season - or by being let down during a successful season that did not result in the ultimate championship. With so many engineers in our base the natural progression is to to try to fix what is broken - even if it isn't broken. This leads to the general belief that what isn't broken actually can't be fixed, so we have to blow it up and start over from scratch to fix the over engineering of the fix that wasn't needed in the first place.

(sorry if I'm picking on Engineers, but I just dealt with a stupid AU dirt mover who can't figure out retention ponds to save his life)

Good post. I would add though that this inferiority complex comes only after having your heart ripped out over and over.

Honestly, how many of us either said it or knew that we would miss the final FG to end the South AL game as they were lining up for it? I'll be honest and say that I out loud voiced to those around me that we would miss it, and everyone agreed. Why did I have this mentality? It's because failures like that have happened time and time again. We're all fearful of the top regarding State, as all we've ever really known (or at least me) is small, minor successes with prolonged times of despair. We live by the motto "there is always next year"....

If I'm incorrect in this logic, please let me know.

[gtowndawg]

A thread complaining about people complaining...go figure

I'm starting a new thread about you complaining about other people complaining!

[BrunswickDawg]

Good post. I would add though that this inferiority complex comes only after having your heart ripped out over and over.

Honestly, how many of us either said it or knew that we would miss the final FG to end the South AL game as they were lining up for it? I'll be honest and say that I out loud voiced to those around me that we would miss it, and everyone agreed. Why did I have this mentality? It's because failures like that have happened time and time again. We're all fearful of the top regarding State, as all we've ever really known (or at least me) is small, minor successes with prolonged times of despair. We live by the motto "there is always next year"....

If I'm incorrect in this logic, please let me know.
USA was the first time my daughter as been to a game in DWS. I turned to her right before the kick and said "we will miss this, welcome to MSU football."

[Commercecomet24]

It's a massive inferiority complex that is part of MSU Sports Induced PTSD. We have come to expect failure. So in order to prevent failure we pick apart successful coaches and players to justify our belief that we will fail. It then gets whipped up into a froth of discontent that eventually makes its way up from the fringe to the mainstream. It then induces panic at the first sign of not having a good season - or by being let down during a successful season that did not result in the ultimate championship. With so many engineers in our base the natural progression is to to try to fix what is broken - even if it isn't broken. This leads to the general belief that what isn't broken actually can't be fixed, so we have to blow it up and start over from scratch to fix the over engineering of the fix that wasn't needed in the first place.

(sorry if I'm picking on Engineers, but I just dealt with a stupid AU dirt mover who can't figure out retention ponds to save his life)

Man you nailed it! Excellent post!

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I'm starting a new thread about you complaining about other people complaining!

Might as well. And then I'll create one about..oh nvm. You see how this could go on forever.

[Commercecomet24]

It was a more fun when we just made fun of unm instead of our players and coaches.

[benbow]

This is an excellent post and far truer than I wish it to be.

[RocketDawg]

I agree with the original post. I think he was only talking about other posters; if so, it needs to be extended to the coaching staff and players too. Criticism within reason is fine, but it gets out of hand. And I doubt there's a single poster here who could do as good or better job as Dan. If there was, he'd be a major college coach instead of a forum poster.

[Political Hack]

I agree with the original post. I think he was only talking about other posters; if so, it needs to be extended to the coaching staff and players too. Criticism within reason is fine, but it gets out of hand. And I doubt there's a single poster here who could do as good or better job as Dan. If there was, he'd be a major college coach instead of a forum poster.

Coaches have always been fair game here but players have historically been off limits. They're not being paid $4.5 million. That said, we need to tighten up the player hating. They're kids. I understand they play big boy football in the SEC and will occasionally get ridiculed, but there's no need for it to come from their own fanbase. It's hasn't been bad IMO considering the season we're having, but we should be careful with going too far down that path.

[msbulldog]

Well just my opinion but, outside of a couple of years with Jackie, we have never known success in football prior to Mullen's arrival. We just don't know how to handle winning nor what to do to sustain it. Age of the fan has a lot to do with it also, the fifty something has an entirely different view of State athletics than a twenty something and sometimes those views clash. I feel that most of us that attended MSU or are just fans of the school did so because the engineering and technical aspect that is the backbone of our university represents our personality. We try to analyze every detail and dissect every aspect instead of just looking at some pie in the sky ending that the liberal arts bastion up north is chasing.

I like it +1

[tireddawg]

I don't like being accused of being a black bear. That shit stings. I'd rather be called a ****sucking piece of **** .

[CadaverDawg]

I admittedly haven't been on the board nearly as much in the last several months due to work and just being busy. That being said, y'all PLEASE report the posts if you have a problem with them. Reporting the post will send an instant message to all mods and we can close or delete the post/thread. I agree with Jack, and I think we all want this place to be great...and we're all family here, so let's all try to do our part to Make Elitedawgs Great Again.

HailState

[RocketDawg]

I don't like being accused of being a black bear. That shit stings. I'd rather be called a ****sucking piece of **** .

Ha. :) That wouldn't bother me all that much, but then I don't have to live with them every day. Living in Crimson Tide land is bad enough.

[Maroonthirteen]

Good post. I would add though that this inferiority complex comes only after having your heart ripped out over and over.

Honestly, how many of us either said it or knew that we would miss the final FG to end the South AL game as they were lining up for it? I'll be honest and say that I out loud voiced to those around me that we would miss it, and everyone agreed. Why did I have this mentality? It's because failures like that have happened time and time again. .

I did. I said it out loud. Now my daughter blames me for the miss. hahaha!

[PassInterference]

This board is a lot better than the others. Let's keep it that way.

[starkvegasdawg]

Honestly, how many of us either said it or knew that we would miss the final FG to end the South AL game as they were lining up for it?

Sadly, I never had a doubt we would miss it. I'll admit something else. I get nervous everytime the other team punts us the ball. I expect us to muff it somehow.

[Gutter Cobreh]

Sadly, I never had a doubt we would miss it. I'll admit something else. I get nervous everytime the other team punts us the ball. I expect us to muff it somehow.

And now we're rolling.... I didn't want to admit that initially, but I'm with you...I blame Jamoral Graham in 2014 for adding to that complex!!!

He muffed so many punts that year that my anxiety level rises every time I see us send someone back....at it's been 2 years!!!

[War Machine Dawg]

Valid point. Clean it up guys.

Members, if you see something that's unacceptable, please report the post so mods will be notified ASAP.

One of the mods/owners is a large part of the problem.

[Gutter Cobreh]

One of the mods/owners is a large part of the problem.

I am of the opinion that the person you are referring to simply puts some things up to create clicks and hits here...

I haven't been here as long as most, so I don't have a lot of history to pull from - just my observation.

If I'm wrong, I apologize.

[DownwardDawg]

Sadly, I never had a doubt we would miss it. I'll admit something else. I get nervous everytime the other team punts us the ball. I expect us to muff it somehow.

Me too! On both your statements. I always expect us to muff the punt for some reason.
And I looked at my wife and said " you know we're gonna miss this right?"

[LC Dawg]

Coaches have always been fair game here but players have historically been off limits. They're not being paid $4.5 million. That said, we need to tighten up the player hating. They're kids. I understand they play big boy football in the SEC and will occasionally get ridiculed, but there's no need for it to come from their own fanbase. It's hasn't been bad IMO considering the season we're having, but we should be careful with going too far down that path.

I agree because the coaches know what they signed up for. Sometimes, though, since we all love Mississippi State, when the attacks on coaches are particularly vicious and have a personal feel to them you will see posters on here take it personally. I'm not saying its right but I somewhat understand it when it happens. I try not to get involved in the personal stuff even though I'm over 40 and I'm a man.
I agree 100% on the players. Unless they do something to disparage our university they deserve our full support and I'm proud every one of them decided to be a Bulldog.

[blacklistedbully]

There was no personal attacks on other posters. Everyone disagreed on stuff which is ok but now there are some hash stuff said to each other. That was the part of Six Pack I did not like, "the personal attacks". This board is becoming much like that one.

***k you, you ************g son of a ******g whore-mongering piece of ***t. If you had any ******g balls, you'd stop ******g sucking **** all ******g day long, like a ************g ***-*******g ****h. ******e!

JK

[starkvegasdawg]

***k you, you ************g son of a ******g whore-mongering piece of ***t. If you had any ******g balls, you'd stop ******g sucking **** all ******g day long, like a ************g ***-*******g ****h. ******e!

JK

This felt like I just read a line from the script of Casino or Pulp Fiction.

[Dental Dawg33]

There was no personal attacks on other posters. Everyone disagreed on stuff which is ok but now there are some hash stuff said to each other. That was the part of Six Pack I did not like, "the personal attacks". This board is becoming much like that one.

That's human nature these days. If someone disagrees with what I said then they automatically are hating on me and I must get defensive instead of acting like an adult and having an educated debate and actually analyzing a different point of view. And you know what, it's ok to have differing opinions. That is what makes forums great. But just because someone doesn't agree with you (even if they are wrong) doesn't warrant a personal attack or belittlement. We are all big boys and girls here. Lets act like it.

[Liverpooldawg]

It's a massive inferiority complex that is part of MSU Sports Induced PTSD. We have come to expect failure. So in order to prevent failure we pick apart successful coaches and players to justify our belief that we will fail. It then gets whipped up into a froth of discontent that eventually makes its way up from the fringe to the mainstream. It then induces panic at the first sign of not having a good season - or by being let down during a successful season that did not result in the ultimate championship. With so many engineers in our base the natural progression is to to try to fix what is broken - even if it isn't broken. This leads to the general belief that what isn't broken actually can't be fixed, so we have to blow it up and start over from scratch to fix the over engineering of the fix that wasn't needed in the first place.

(sorry if I'm picking on Engineers, but I just dealt with a stupid AU dirt mover who can't figure out retention ponds to save his life)

THIS. It's always been the same way since I've been alive. When you see me refer to "old MSU" or "poor ole whooped down MSU" this is exactly what I'm talking about. Well said Brunswick.

[QuadrupleOption]

USA was the first time my daughter as been to a game in DWS. I turned to her right before the kick and said "we will miss this, welcome to MSU football."

My daughter turned to me in the 3rd quarter and asked if we could leave because "there's no way that other team (USA) can come back and win this game."

I damn near choked her.

[MSUDawg99]

Valid point. Clean it up guys.

Members, if you see something that's unacceptable, please report the post so mods will be notified ASAP.

Heck, when I first joined this board all I saw was fighting, bickering, attacking...so & so telling so & so how stupid they were for their opinion.

I remember texting C34 & asking him if it was always this way. He said you gotta have tough skin to be on the board.

And I thought females were bitches for all the bickering. Lord have mercy!

[NELA Dawg]

Normally I would preface this with dumbass, but under the new rules will just say this. We had some really good years under Bob Tyler! Just kidding, I don't do that.

I totally agree with this thread, we can all be civil as I imagine all of us probably have more maroon t shirts than we actually need.

Hey, be nice about Bob, he is family. Grew up with Cam.

[NELA Dawg]

Coaches have always been fair game here but players have historically been off limits. They're not being paid $4.5 million. That said, we need to tighten up the player hating. They're kids. I understand they play big boy football in the SEC and will occasionally get ridiculed, but there's no need for it to come from their own fanbase. It's hasn't been bad IMO considering the season we're having, but we should be careful with going too far down that path.

Thank you, I agree with this. But, at times, there has been things said about players that was a little over the top. Now, got to head to high school football game to ring my cowbell and NOT stand when they play Dixie. Figure that out!

[oldtrickdawg]

A more civil level of discourse..What a novel idea...I like it....

[Todd4State]

It's a massive inferiority complex that is part of MSU Sports Induced PTSD. We have come to expect failure. So in order to prevent failure we pick apart successful coaches and players to justify our belief that we will fail. It then gets whipped up into a froth of discontent that eventually makes its way up from the fringe to the mainstream. It then induces panic at the first sign of not having a good season - or by being let down during a successful season that did not result in the ultimate championship. With so many engineers in our base the natural progression is to to try to fix what is broken - even if it isn't broken. This leads to the general belief that what isn't broken actually can't be fixed, so we have to blow it up and start over from scratch to fix the over engineering of the fix that wasn't needed in the first place.

(sorry if I'm picking on Engineers, but I just dealt with a stupid AU dirt mover who can't figure out retention ponds to save his life)

If anything history has shown that we wait too long and are too patient with our coaches. Most fans want a new coach when the team fails. Our fans point to Frank Beamer.

[TUSK]

Does this new edict carry over to the Poly Board?:eek:

[starkvegasdawg]

Does this new edict carry over to the Poly Board?:eek:

See your sig.

[Dawg61]

Maybe just have a "venting" thread/forum? Limited access to the lurker crew based on post count, rep, etc. like some of the other forums on here. Simply go in bi+<h about what you want then go on about your business. Remove the "reply" button it's simply to get it said and be done with it. Removing the back and forth dialogue should help the personal attack stuff, an Elitedawgs confessional if you will. The bully pulpit? I don't know just a thought, could have fun with in title and drive a few lurkers nuts wondering what's said in there.

Your idea is rusty but it has potential. Gotta have a reply button though or else you're just rambling at yourself like a crazy retard.

[BrunswickDawg]

Your idea is rusty but it has potential. Gotta have a reply button though or else you're just rambling at yourself like a crazy retard.
For some on this board, rambling at themeselfs like a crazy retard is their SOP.

[Dawg61]

For some on this board, rambling at themeselfs like a crazy retard is their SOP.

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