Patterson considering transferring?

[Political Hack]

His family wanted him to play immediately, which is likely because they know they need to save his RS season for a possible transfer pending the announcement of sanctions.

Freeze isn't a dummy. He knows burning that RS would likely result in Patterson leaving next year after sanctions are announced. It would allow Patterson to use the RS season as his "sit out" season. Would make life a lot easier for the kid.

I wonder how Freeze was justifying this to his family. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during those conversations. Ole lying Hugh at it again.

[Todd4State]

He should have never gone there in the first place. For multiple reasons. It was documented that they were being investigated at that time. Even Archie's kid was smart enough to not go there during an investigation.

Patterson could be hoping that the NCAA will let him transfer without penalty due to the probation so he may come out good in the end.

[StatesboroBlues]

I would think they wanted him to play early when they first signed. Now, it seems a RS year would be the way to go and have the ability to transfer after sanctions. If they are bad enough to transfer than you are probably looking at a bowl ban as being part of the sanctions. Wouldn't most transfers get to leave without having to sit in this situation...seems that is the way I remember USC and others.

Edited: Todd beat me to my line of thinking...

[Political Hack]

I would think they wanted him to play early when they first signed. Now, it seems a RS year would be the way to go and have the ability to transfer after sanctions. If they are bad enough to transfer than you are probably looking at a bowl ban as being part of the sanctions. Wouldn't most transfers get to leave without having to sit in this situation...seems that is the way I remember USC and others.

NCAA makes that decision case to case, but these kids knew coming in that Ole Miss was under a serious NCAA investigation. They still signed. They had their chance. I'd think the NCAA is a little tighter with this than they were with USC because of the timing, publicity, and how long it's taken to conduct the investigation. It isn't like this is coming out of nowhere at this point.

If he RS this year he can only play 3 years after transferring. If he doesn't , he could play his year, RS, and still play 3. It's the difference in an entire season. Nobody in their right mind would want to give up 12-15 games of college when the NFL is in play.

[Bodaski]

The saving grace on them signing while OM is under investigation was manipulated by Freeze. It is well documented the players were lied to about the severity of the investigation. This will be their out to transfer.

[messageboardsuperhero]

NCAA makes that decision case to case, but these kids knew coming in that Ole Miss was under a serious NCAA investigation. They still signed. They had their chance. I'd think the NCAA is a little tighter with this than they were with USC because of the timing, publicity, and how long it's taken to conduct the investigation. It isn't like this is coming out of nowhere at this point.

If he RS this year he can only play 3 years after transferring. If he doesn't , he could play his year, RS, and still play 3. It's the difference in an entire season. Nobody in their right mind would want to give up 12-15 games of college when the NFL is in play.

Or maybe the NCAA is aware of the lies that were told to the recruits about the seriousness of the investigation and let's them go. The recruits knew UM was under investigation, but it's hard to say they knew about the seriousness of it when you have players quoted as being told by Hugh Freeze that it was all old stuff, nothing to do with him, etc.

Combine that with the obvious BS that was leaked to the media before signing day- how can you say the recruits that signed with UM knew how bad it could get?

[HSVDawg]

NCAA makes that decision case to case, but these kids knew coming in that Ole Miss was under a serious NCAA investigation. They still signed. They had their chance. I'd think the NCAA is a little tighter with this than they were with USC because of the timing, publicity, and how long it's taken to conduct the investigation. It isn't like this is coming out of nowhere at this point.

If he RS this year he can only play 3 years after transferring. If he doesn't , he could play his year, RS, and still play 3. It's the difference in an entire season. Nobody in their right mind would want to give up 12-15 games of college when the NFL is in play.

To play devil's advocate, the Forde article didn't come out until February of 2016 and Patterson enrolled after December of 2015. At that time, the "women's basketball and track" narrative was still being spread, and I don't know that any recruits had reason to believe anything different.

[mcain31]

Maybe one of the players will sue the C-L for not informing the public of the investigation in a timely manner

[Bothrops]

I think he transfers after OM has to promote an interim, or hires a replacement. He may not play a single snap at OM.

[Political Hack]

To play devil's advocate, the Forde article didn't come out until February of 2016 and Patterson enrolled after December of 2015. At that time, the "women's basketball and track" narrative was still being spread, and I don't know that any recruits had reason to believe anything different.

The timing is key for him. Didn't realize he was an early enrollee.

They could clear them all to transfer, but I just see this as being different than USC. The length of the investigation alone will work against it. The one thing that the NCAA won't consider is players saying "but Hugh lied to me." They'll probably laugh and say "yeah, we've met him too."

[Tbonewannabe]

I think he transfers after OM has to promote an interim, or hires a replacement. He may not play a single snap at OM.

Talk about not getting any bang for your buck.

[gtowndawg]

Talk about not getting any bang for your buck.

Oh, they got their bang all right. Crootin' rankings an all.

[StatesboroBlues]

Edited: was said above.

[Johnson85]

The timing is key for him. Didn't realize he was an early enrollee.

They could clear them all to transfer, but I just see this as being different than USC. The length of the investigation alone will work against it. The one thing that the NCAA won't consider is players saying "but Hugh lied to me." They'll probably laugh and say "yeah, we've met him too."

Depends on whether the NCAA wants to put more of the punishment on the school or the players. If they make it hard for people to transfer, they allow UM to benefit more from their cheating and may end up not punishing the players that much either. If they all stay, UM will be pretty decent over their career and they'll at worst end up missing two bowls, which a lot of players will do just by virtue of the team not being that good. If they let the players leave with no penalty, it will hurt UM that much more nad make other schools that more hesitant to copy their game plan.

[notsofarawaydawg]

The almighty power of this got them on campus.......

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/sixpaksux/dollabills_zpspk8cujwd.jpg

[StatesboroBlues]

Depends on whether the NCAA wants to put more of the punishment on the school or the players. If they make it hard for people to transfer, they allow UM to benefit more from their cheating and may end up not punishing the players that much either. If they all stay, UM will be pretty decent over their career and they'll at worst end up missing two bowls, which a lot of players will do just by virtue of the team not being that good. If they let the players leave with no penalty, it will hurt UM that much more nad make other schools that more hesitant to copy their game plan.

Exactly...scholarship reductions are magnified when you have transfers. The team does not have the ability to make up for those scholarships along with your normal transfers, players giving up football, and graduation.

I will try and find the article that was written about USC talking about this very issue. They had very little transfer (even though it was given, I think one RB to Penn State maybe) and it made a huge difference in the program.

[WSOPdawg]

I LOVE THIS SUBJECT MATTER!!! :D

I fully expect the NCAA to allow the Bears' players to transfer without penalty after the hammer drops, which should further decimate their program. Now, if we can only get the hammer to drop by mid-February 2017 (which I'm not holding my breath on).

[Tbonewannabe]

Can Dan start having late night calls with Little? We could use some Oline help.

[dawgday166]

Can Dan start having late night calls with Little? We could use some Oline help.

Little couldn't crack our lineup then. We'll be loaded with 3* developmental guys that Hev has turned into NFL prospects ***

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

This title indicates that he is really considering transferring but it should be "Will he consider transferring?"

[thf24]

I will try and find the article that was written about USC talking about this very issue. They had very little transfer (even though it was given, I think one RB to Penn State maybe) and it made a huge difference in the program.

The comparisons are interesting. Even if OM is hit with sanctions on par with USC's, I'm thinking it'll hurt OM far worse. USC was able to retain most of its players and still recruit fairly well on name alone. It's going to be a rude awakening for OM since most of their fans seem to believe their name carries a whole lot more weight than it actually does.

[ClangaDawg]

Seriously, who cares what Patterson does? Let's just line up and whip that A$$ and it won't matter who they have as a QB. The obsession with them on this board borders on the absurd, and it makes us look ridiculous as a fan base! I have to work with a lot of bears and I get tired of hearing about how much we obsess over them.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

It has really gotten bad. It's like our fans think that our success is solely based on them failing and it's not.

[Political Hack]

It has really gotten bad. It's like our fans think that our success is solely based on them failing and it's not.

We won't beat LSU for Louisiana players. We won't beat Bama (or likely Auburn) for Alabama players. We need to absolutely dominate MS to build the base of a good team. That and Juco have to be our bread and butter. For that to happen we have to be option #1 in the state of Mississippi. Pretty simple equation if you think about it. We cannot play 2nd fiddle to OM and compete for championships. It's impossible.

It's also sports in MS. We talk about South Panola losing. The Shuckers from time to time and occasionally break a Tiger Woods is in sex rehab story. If it's relevant in sports in MS, it's likely going to hit this board. But by all means Clanga should continue letting bears tell him what he should and should not be upset about.

[MCsMGs]

Seriously, who cares what Patterson does? Let's just line up and whip that A$$ and it won't matter who they have as a QB. The obsession with them on this board borders on the absurd, and it makes us look ridiculous as a fan base! I have to work with a lot of bears and I get tired of hearing about how much we obsess over them.

Yep!

[MCsMGs]

It has really gotten bad. It's like our fans think that our success is solely based on them failing and it's not.

and Yep!

[whatever]

He may have more of a battle on his hands than he thought with Pellerin also.

That guy is bigger, presumably a better runner as well as a physical runner, and has a stronger arm than Kelly per "reports" and some video of him throwing it 70 yards on 1 knee. Not saying, just saying

[Political Hack]

Low post count says "don't talk bad about the Bears."

Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for everyone here guys.

[Gomez09]

My count is low too but **** those guys......

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

For that to happen we have to be option #1 in the state of Mississippi. Pretty simple equation if you think about it. We cannot play 2nd fiddle to OM and compete for championships. It's impossible.

Have you heard that they are under investigation? The reason we are playing second fiddle is because those bastards have a $$competitive advantage$$ on us.

[MadDawg]

We won't beat LSU for Louisiana players. We won't beat Bama (or likely Auburn) for Alabama players. We need to absolutely dominate MS to build the base of a good team. That and Juco have to be our bread and butter. For that to happen we have to be option #1 in the state of Mississippi. Pretty simple equation if you think about it. We cannot play 2nd fiddle to OM and compete for championships. It's impossible.

I'm constantly amazed at fans that can't get this.

[MadDawg]

Have you heard that they are under investigation? The reason we are playing second fiddle is because those bastards have a $$competitive advantage$$ on us.

In other news, grass is green and the sky is blue.

[StatesboroBlues]

The comparisons are interesting. Even if OM is hit with sanctions on par with USC's, I'm thinking it'll hurt OM far worse. USC was able to retain most of its players and still recruit fairly well on name alone. It's going to be a rude awakening for OM since most of their fans seem to believe their name carries a whole lot more weight than it actually does.

Exactly...if they get what USC did than they are in major trouble. The initial transferring of players just magnifies/speeds up the process.

As for as players transferring and a high profile QB.
Barkley was very vocal about sticking it out which made a huge difference on players staying through the bowl ban. If Patterson was to leave...

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm constantly amazed at fans that can't get this.

There is not enough talent in-state for us to rely on year in and year out. We have to become a recruiting presence out of state. Until we start developing pipelines into LA and Georgia we will continue to hit a ceiling. We don't have to outrecruit LSU for kids, we need to out recruit Nebraska, Arkansas, and Miami for kids that LSU pass on. Same with Georgia kids. LSU and Georgia routinely sign about 12-15 in state kids a year. There are roughly 30 SEC players in LA and probably 55-60 SEC players in GA. The talent is there, we should have to beat out other programs for them.

Our best teams have relied on out of state kids. 2014 - Dak, Jrob, Preston Smith, D'Runnya, Ross, Dillon Day, Clausell, and Redmond were all out of state kids.

We will live and die by out of state recruiting. Look at the in-state crop this year, not enough OL, not enough DL, not enough LB's, not enough CB's, you could sign the top 12 kids in state this year, and you would be RB heavy and not sign a dominant DL.

Personally I think the board focuses too much on the bears, but its a message board, to each his own. I know I didn't feel better leaving Davis Wade stadium after losing to south alabama because the bears are about to get hammered by the ncaa, but maybe im in the minority.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Well it was like it wasn't being realized.

[DLGDawg]

Low post count says "don't talk bad about the Bears."

Got it. Thanks for clearing that up for everyone here guys.

From Trading Places...YEAH

It's about sports. The investigation and the outcome of the investigation greatly affects us.

That's not obsession....Its our job. The Bares would love for us to "in fight" and call each other obsessed. Anything to keep us from talking about
THA HAMMER that's comin down on that arse.

[HSVDawg]

There is not enough talent in-state for us to rely on year in and year out. We have to become a recruiting presence out of state. Until we start developing pipelines into LA and Georgia we will continue to hit a ceiling. We don't have to outrecruit LSU for kids, we need to out recruit Nebraska, Arkansas, and Miami for kids that LSU pass on. Same with Georgia kids. LSU and Georgia routinely sign about 12-15 in state kids a year. There are roughly 30 SEC players in LA and probably 55-60 SEC players in GA. The talent is there, we should have to beat out other programs for them.

Our best teams have relied on out of state kids. 2014 - Dak, Jrob, Preston Smith, D'Runnya, Ross, Dillon Day, Clausell, and Redmond were all out of state kids.

We will live and die by out of state recruiting. Look at the in-state crop this year, not enough OL, not enough DL, not enough LB's, not enough CB's, you could sign the top 12 kids in state this year, and you would be RB heavy and not sign a dominant DL.

Personally I think the board focuses too much on the bears, but its a message board, to each his own. I know I didn't feel better leaving Davis Wade stadium after losing to south alabama because the bears are about to get hammered by the ncaa, but maybe im in the minority.

Great post. I'll add that we are NEVER going to dominate MS recruiting to the extent that would be required to become a dominate force nationally based on that alone (even if the number of available prospects drastically increases). Historically, the absolute best case scenario for either state or OM is to pull about 60% of the top 12 to 15 prospects that decide to remain in-state, with the worst case being the opposite end of that spectrum (40%). And W/L records really don't matter one bit. Look at 2011 where we finished with 9 wins and a Top 15 ranking, and were up against a 4 win OM team heading into a lame duck season for their head coach. All that in our favor, and we still absolutely got our clocks cleaned on in-state recruiting. Fortunately for us, that ended up being a bust year for a lot of the big prospects, but we were still hard after all them and came up way short.

A year where either MSU or OM signs 80-90% of the CL 10 Most Wanted is literally never going to happen. Anyone who thinks the NCAA sanctions for OM are going to change that are kidding themselves.

[Spiderman]

If Kelly happened to get injured, he would hit the field pretty quick.

Freeze's plan is for him to start as a RS freshman. Hugh Freeze does not believe they are going to get hit hard by NCAA.

I DIDN'T SAY IF THEY WERE OR NOT.

I said it's what Hugh believes, because he has to believe it. He is very confident his faith will guide him and his team through this "dark time'.

He refuses to even think of the alternative.

[ShotgunDawg]

If Kelly happened to get injured, he would hit the field pretty quick.

Freeze's plan is for him to start as a RS freshman. Hugh Freeze does not believe they are going to get hit hard by NCAA.

I DIDN'T SAY IF THEY WERE OR NOT.

I said it's what Hugh believes, because he has to believe it. He is very confident his faith will guide him and his team through this "dark time'.

He refuses to even think of the alternative.

He is the biggest media ass kisser I've ever seen as a coach.

Finebaum just said he would be on the show tomorrow live from Oxford, which seems to becoming a weekly time slot for Freeze

I honestly have never heard of a coach going on TV this often. He's obviously trying to do something.

[Bucky Dog]

Patterson would already be starting at LSU most likely

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Patterson would already be starting at LSU most likely

Maybe he and his family are realizing that now..

[ClangaDawg]

From Trading Places...YEAH

It's about sports. The investigation and the outcome of the investigation greatly affects us.

That's not obsession....Its our job. The Bares would love for us to "in fight" and call each other obsessed. Anything to keep us from talking about
THA HAMMER that's comin down on that arse.

And anyone that doesn't think everything here should be about the bears is a certain troll! So your either an OM obsess-or or a troll on this board it seems. I have been reading here for a long time, and finally decided to start participating, and just because I don't fall in line with everything "bear," I must be a bear. Give me a break, some of you are overly obsessed, plain and simple. I'm not saying that we should never talk about them, because some things should be talked about, but when posters start making excuses for why they win, or gee, I hope this guys transfers, then they just sound like jealous kids that feel left out. Why do we have to make ourselves look like that is all I'm saying? I will say it again, who cares what Patterson does? I'm more interested in what Fitz does. This thread gives the impression that we are worried we can't win or compete with them unless we get "lucky" and Patterson transfers. The "old Po Old State" syndrome is alive and well here!

[MadDawg]

I'm not saying that we should never talk about them, because some things should be talked about, but when posters start making excuses for why they win

Ok, so talking about them cheating is fine, but if we have the mental capacity of a 4 year old and can deduce that rampant cheating might lead to more wins for them, that's obsessed. Brilliant dude, just brilliant.

The "I'm a dumb Old State" fan is live and well.

[Dolphus Raymond]

ClangaDawg, I'm quickly becoming convinced that you are full of shit.

[EliteDawgEnforcer]

ClangaDawg, I'm quickly becoming convinced that you are full of shit.

He was. He gone.

[Todd4State]

He was. He gone.

Usually when Ole Miss fans troll like that there is something to the rumor.

[Apoplectic]

His family wanted him to play immediately, which is likely because they know they need to save his RS season for a possible transfer pending the announcement of sanctions.

Freeze isn't a dummy. He knows burning that RS would likely result in Patterson leaving next year after sanctions are announced. It would allow Patterson to use the RS season as his "sit out" season. Would make life a lot easier for the kid.

I wonder how Freeze was justifying this to his family. I'd love to be a fly on the wall during those conversations. Ole lying Hugh at it again.

As I posted earlier freeze implied to the family that OTF problems with MGK would result in early PT.

[Dolphus Raymond]

ClangaDawg, I'm sure you are reading this, because any child who goes to a board pretending to be someone they are not, is undoubtably too self-absorbed to stay away. So here it goes.
ClangaDawg, FU-K YOU. Going on another board, for whatever reason you had for doing so, does not change this one very important fact: the NCAA is going to stomp Ole Miss a new asshole. Deal with it however you wish but deal with it. Perhaps posing as an MSU fan was cathartic? Just remember, no matter how hard you wish, the NCAA is not going away. Ole Miss and Hugh Freeze are FU--ED.
You're Welcome,
Dolphus Raymond

[Jarius]

Hey clangadawg, I know you are reading this....go **** yourself you **********. Your team is about to get anal raped
By Alabama and then by the NCAA: enjoy your vacated wins dickhead.

[DancingRabbit]

Ha, stupid obsessed bear trolls. Make up a Dawg username, come on a Dawg board and try to impersonate a Dawg and call us obsessed.

[JDog13]

Wasn't a certain ole miss player's dad again was it?

[Dallas_Dawg]

Wasn't a certain ole miss player's dad again was it?
I think that was group trolling. Folks coming to agree with that dumb shit
so what player's dad trolled?
And Enforcer, who is this idiot?
These posers deserve to be outed. **** em

[Spiderman]

I think that was group trolling. Folks coming to agree with that dumb shit
so what player's dad trolled?
And Enforcer, who is this idiot?
These posers deserve to be outed. **** em

I agree, out them all and it will soon stop

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree, out them all and it will soon stop

It'll stop once sanctions come down.

They'll be too embarrassed to visit this site then.

[BeastMan]

This post was from April...

http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?43225-Hearing-about-Shea-Patterson

[starkvegasdawg]

It'll stop once sanctions come down.

They'll be too embarrassed to visit this site then.

It'll be easier to spot the few that do come on after sanctions. They will be the ones trying to start rumors about our players being in trouble either legally, NCAA wise, or both. They'll post things like I hear XXXXX was given $25k and a hooker named Michelle if he'd come visit, and if he signed they had a judge that would make his dad's gambling incident at a certain Tunica casino go away.

[msbulldog]

He was. He gone.

As always, good job. +1

[TNDawg35]

It'll be easier to spot the few that do come on after sanctions. They will be the ones trying to start rumors about our players being in trouble either legally, NCAA wise, or both. They'll post things like I hear XXXXX was given $25k and a hooker named Michelle if he'd come visit, and if he signed they had a judge that would make his dad's gambling incident at a certain Tunica casino go away.

Where can I find "Michelle"?

[Political Hack]

Great post. I'll add that we are NEVER going to dominate MS recruiting to the extent that would be required to become a dominate force nationally based on that alone (even if the number of available prospects drastically increases).

Agree. You have to dominate in-state first though. You can't let the good 3 stars, 4 stars and 5 stars in your backyard go somewhere else. If you're allowing that to happen you have to go find a replacement from FL or TX or GA, which means you need to target 4 kids and hope you get one. It's more resource intensive, takes more time, and is a much harder sell.

Step One: Get everything you can get that will help you win inside the Magnolia State.
Step Two: Find quality depth and/or starters from Juco.
Step Three: Fill the gaps with out of state kids.

This has been, and always will be, our best approach to recruiting. I'd be interested if others think differently.

[Political Hack]

Usually when Ole Miss fans troll like that there is something to the rumor.

Bingo. Network trying to shut down the chatter. And some of the folks here actually bought in. It's hilarious to me when people don't immediately recognize their BS.

News Flash: Patterson not playing has A LOT to do with the ongoing NCAA investigation. Period.

[BossDawg]

As I posted earlier freeze implied to the family that OTF problems with MGK would result in early PT.

Wow. That's nuts if true. But as desperate at recruiting as they are, I can certainly see Freeze telling Patterson's parents that....like the whole "Blind Side 2" stuff. Evidently Freeze doesn't think these things through, as his little white lies appear to be starting trouble for him.

[Todd4State]

Agree. You have to dominate in-state first though. You can't let the good 3 stars, 4 stars and 5 stars in your backyard go somewhere else. If you're allowing that to happen you have to go find a replacement from FL or TX or GA, which means you need to target 4 kids and hope you get one. It's more resource intensive, takes more time, and is a much harder sell.

Step One: Get everything you can get that will help you win inside the Magnolia State.
Step Two: Find quality depth and/or starters from Juco.
Step Three: Fill the gaps with out of state kids.

This has been, and always will be, our best approach to recruiting. I'd be interested if others think differently.

I totally agree with your recruiting philosophy. How would we feel about our class if we had Akers, Gay, Charles, and Epson committed right now? And how would we feel about the future had we landed Brown, Knott, and Lashley? We have to land the best guys in state.

[notsofarawaydawg]

Hey ClangaDipChit .. you were just about to get this treatment.

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/sixpaksux/fanga_zpsglqatwpc.jpg

[BrunswickDawg]

Agree. You have to dominate in-state first though. You can't let the good 3 stars, 4 stars and 5 stars in your backyard go somewhere else. If you're allowing that to happen you have to go find a replacement from FL or TX or GA, which means you need to target 4 kids and hope you get one. It's more resource intensive, takes more time, and is a much harder sell.

Step One: Get everything you can get that will help you win inside the Magnolia State.
Step Two: Find quality depth and/or starters from Juco.
Step Three: Fill the gaps with out of state kids.

This has been, and always will be, our best approach to recruiting. I'd be interested if others think differently.

I would agree with this as an outline - and I think that is the way we started out under Mullen before the Network went wild in '13. But, there are some years where MS just doesn't produce enough quality players and/or produce the right positions for our needs. Mullen and Crew have to be able to recognize that at least 1-2 years out to be able to jump on OOS guys early. That takes a lot of manpower that we haven't had. I hoping the off-field hires help with that.

[StatesboroBlues]

I totally agree with your recruiting philosophy. How would we feel about our class if we had Akers, Gay, Charles, and Epson committed right now? And how would we feel about the future had we landed Brown, Knott, and Lashley? We have to land the best guys in state.

Agree with both of you...

Exactly why I have always said....when we have a shot (not a UM lock) at a top In-State player we have to hit at a very high percentage.

[MadDawg]

Agree. You have to dominate in-state first though. You can't let the good 3 stars, 4 stars and 5 stars in your backyard go somewhere else. If you're allowing that to happen you have to go find a replacement from FL or TX or GA, which means you need to target 4 kids and hope you get one. It's more resource intensive, takes more time, and is a much harder sell.

Step One: Get everything you can get that will help you win inside the Magnolia State.
Step Two: Find quality depth and/or starters from Juco.
Step Three: Fill the gaps with out of state kids.

This has been, and always will be, our best approach to recruiting. I'd be interested if others think differently.

You said it a lot better than I did.

[I_Spy]

Well if he transfers, let Shea Pat come here so we can do this thing. As long as Dan wants him and Shea wins no games for OM. I would like Kylin and Cam too. I love our Defense now and the the next few years.

[Statecoachingblows**]

Hey ClangaDipChit .. you were just about to get this treatment.

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p572/sixpaksux/fanga_zpsglqatwpc.jpg


Ewwww...I read that article the other day****

[Political Hack]

I was looking for another thread, which I?ll bump when I find it, but thought this was interesting too.

Was hearing way back when they burned Shea Shea?s RS that they were trying to prevent him from transferring. Even that didn?t work. Dirty, dirty.

[Goldendawg]

Is Shea's big bro still drawing a UNM check?

[DogsofAnarchy]

PH, I wish people on our own board would adopt the mantra to NEVER discuss OM on our boards and to delete anything discussed about them. Frankly, they pray on us discussing them and their antics. Everybody in this league knows they’re dirty. I think we should wash our hands of them.

[Goldendawg]

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". Don't know who said it.

[Political Hack]

Is Shea's big bro still drawing a UNM check?

I don’t know. I also don’t know if they’re still living in Bent Oaks in Biloxi, but I’m about to ask. Lol.

I know there’s been a lot of talk about the Patterson family, but I can completely understand what happened with them and their son!’s recruitment. I know his dad has a reputation for being a bit of a dick, but his sons are doing pretty damn well and I can certainly respect that. I hope they don’t get blackballed in-state for what they did with Ole Miss. I’ve always enjoyed watching Shea play. And I tell my son to watch him every time he’s on. I’m actually going to enjoy watching him play for Michigan. I may have to rethink my lack of appreciation for Jim Harbaugh.

I hope the Patterson’s don’t take crap for Shea leaving although I’m worried they will.

[Goldendawg]

I don’t know. I also don’t know if they’re still living in Bent Oaks in Biloxi, but I’m about to ask. Lol.

I know there’s been a lot of talk about the Patterson family, but I can completely understand what happened with them and their son!’s recruitment. I know his dad has a reputation for being a bit of a dick, but his sons are doing pretty damn well and I can certainly respect that. I hope they don’t get blackballed in-state for what they did with Ole Miss. I’ve always enjoyed watching Shea play. And I tell my son to watch him every time he’s on. I’m actually going to enjoy watching him play for Michigan. I may have to rethink my lack of appreciation for Jim Harbaugh.

I hope the Patterson’s don’t take crap for Shea leaving although I’m worried they will.

Don't forget, UNM's new QB beat two weak teams and us (barely), after taking Fitz out in the 1st quarter. Not much of a body of work in the SEC, but most UNM fans quickly washed their hands of Shea and crowned a new king. Hail State!

[BeardoMSU]

"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer". Don't know who said it.

Vito Corleone**


https://youtu.be/TqoMFLXsyAs?t=203

[Dawgface]

I don’t know. I also don’t know if they’re still living in Bent Oaks in Biloxi, but I’m about to ask. Lol.

I know there’s been a lot of talk about the Patterson family, but I can completely understand what happened with them and their son!’s recruitment. I know his dad has a reputation for being a bit of a dick, but his sons are doing pretty damn well and I can certainly respect that. I hope they don’t get blackballed in-state for what they did with Ole Miss. I’ve always enjoyed watching Shea play. And I tell my son to watch him every time he’s on. I’m actually going to enjoy watching him play for Michigan. I may have to rethink my lack of appreciation for Jim Harbaugh.

I hope the Patterson’s don’t take crap for Shea leaving although I’m worried they will.

I have no reason to watch him play at Mich. He can suck it for all I care.

[Political Hack]

They still live in Bent Oaks.

[parabrave]

They still live in Bent Oaks.

I think they're gone. They were my cousins neighbor and that house is empty.

[Bully13]

I think they're gone. They were my cousins neighbor and that house is empty.

If true, the timing is awesome.