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MafiaDawg
09-04-2016, 07:05 AM
The lack of recruiting really showed up yesterday with Dak not there to mask it. I have no doubt it's being used against us when Dan flirts with other jobs and won't commit publically. As much as Scott may not want admit it, the whole athletic dept basically depends on one sport, football. It drives the whole damn bus. He needs to do whatever he can to keep the wheels from falling off before it's too late. Recruiting is the lifeblood of the football program and the football program is the lifeblood of the athletic dept. So basically Scott's job success depends on football recruiting. Do something about it!

msstate7
09-04-2016, 07:36 AM
USA recruiting...
'14 -- 111th
'15 -- 90th
'16 -- 93rd

Us...
'14 -- 35th
'15 -- 18th
'16 -- 27th

msbulldog
09-04-2016, 07:59 AM
USA recruiting...
'14 -- 111th
'15 -- 90th
'16 -- 93rd

Us...
'14 -- 35th
'15 -- 18th
'16 -- 27th

Good point State7, but maybe those ranking service aren't all their cracked up to be.

msstate7
09-04-2016, 08:07 AM
Good point State7, but maybe those ranking service aren't all their cracked up to be.

Lsu lost to Wisconsin bc of recruiting
Om lost last year to Memphis bc of recruiting
Houston recruits better than Oklahoma
Usm recruits better than Kentucky

Tcu, Arkansas, and Tennessee just barely recruited well enough to beat South Dakota st, la tech, and app state

MafiaDawg
09-04-2016, 08:17 AM
The vast majority of the time, not always, the teams with better players wins. Unfortunately our talent is on a sun belt level and the margin for error is extremely small when we play USA. If we had recruited better and had better players, even with our coach who doesn't want to be here, we would have won. The thing about lack of recruiting is that it shows itself 2 years later.

MarketingBully
09-04-2016, 08:19 AM
Recruiting wasn't what got us beat yesterday. Poor gameplanning and poor personnel decisions are what lead to our loss which is on Mullen. Where was the Relf offense? We averaged 7-8 yards a play running the football. Our OL out weighed their DL by 50 pounds on average. Shit, we have three 4 star running backs who between them got 2 carries yesterday (Aeris Williams, Lee, and Gibson). If we had used those three as our running backs along with running the football in the first half, we would have worn them down in the second and imposed our will offensively. Nope, this loss is 100% on Mullen and it was not recruiting why we lost it.

MarketingBully
09-04-2016, 08:22 AM
The vast majority of the time, not always, the teams with better players wins. Unfortunately our talent is on a sun belt level and the margin for error is extremely small when we play USA. If we had recruited better and had better players, even with our coach who doesn't want to be here, we would have won. The thing about lack of recruiting is that it shows itself 2 years later.

How do you win a game when you call the offense like Dak never left with two QBs who have no business throwing it 30 times. This is just plain stupid thinking. Our recruiting is at a 25-30 level. No Sun Belt team is any where close to that.

msstate7
09-04-2016, 08:22 AM
Recruiting wasn't what got us beat yesterday. Poor gameplanning and poor personnel decisions are what lead to our loss which is on Mullen. Where was the Relf offense? We averaged 7-8 yards a play running the football. Our OL out weighed their DL by 50 pounds on average. Shit, we have three 4 star running backs who between them got 2 carries yesterday (Aeris Williams, Lee, and Gibson). If we had used those three as our running backs along with running the football in the first half, we would have worn them down in the second and imposed our will offensively. Nope, this loss is 100% on Mullen and it was not recruiting why we lost it.

Winner

MarketingBully
09-04-2016, 08:25 AM
The lack of recruiting really showed up yesterday with Dak not there to mask it. I have no doubt it's being used against us when Dan flirts with other jobs and won't commit publically. As much as Scott may not want admit it, the whole athletic dept basically depends on one sport, football. It drives the whole damn bus. He needs to do whatever he can to keep the wheels from falling off before it's too late. Recruiting is the lifeblood of the football program and the football program is the lifeblood of the athletic dept. So basically Scott's job success depends on football recruiting. Do something about it!

The biggest thing that is showing this year is our lack of recruiting CBs and our lack of getting Cord Sandberg on campus. Those are the biggest issues right now. I am hoping that Mullen gives Wyatt Roberts a chance to show what he can do. The other two QBs are not the answer.

Turfdawg67
09-04-2016, 08:29 AM
Recruiting wasn't what got us beat yesterday. Poor gameplanning and poor personnel decisions are what lead to our loss which is on Mullen. Where was the Relf offense? We averaged 7-8 yards a play running the football. Our OL out weighed their DL by 50 pounds on average. Shit, we have three 4 star running backs who between them got 2 carries yesterday (Aeris Williams, Lee, and Gibson). If we had used those three as our running backs along with running the football in the first half, we would have worn them down in the second and imposed our will offensively. Nope, this loss is 100% on Mullen and it was not recruiting why we lost it.

Great post! We have enough talent to win games like this and "compete" in the SEC. This was completely on our coaches. Lack of planning, preparing and quite frankly... giving a sh*t!

TrapGame
09-04-2016, 08:30 AM
Recruiting wasn't what got us beat yesterday. Poor gameplanning and poor personnel decisions are what lead to our loss which is on Mullen. Where was the Relf offense? We averaged 7-8 yards a play running the football. Our OL out weighed their DL by 50 pounds on average. Shit, we have three 4 star running backs who between them got 2 carries yesterday (Aeris Williams, Lee, and Gibson). If we had used those three as our running backs along with running the football in the first half, we would have worn them down in the second and imposed our will offensively. Nope, this loss is 100% on Mullen and it was not recruiting why we lost it.

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RBritt
09-04-2016, 08:30 AM
Cord is tearing it up in High A. Maybe he'll reach the majors by 2022.

MafiaDawg
09-04-2016, 08:37 AM
It doesn't matter how much our OL weighs. They are terrible. Our talent isnt anywhere close to 25th in the nation. I bet less than a third of our 22 starters had offers from other SEC west schools.

msstate7
09-04-2016, 08:37 AM
Cord is tearing it up in High A. Maybe he'll reach the majors by 2022.

.621 ops this year
.625 ops for career

Time to give football a look, cord

MarketingBully
09-04-2016, 08:38 AM
Cord is tearing it up in High A. Maybe he'll reach the majors by 2022.

Yeah, sucked ass he went the baseball route. He would have been our starter this year with probably two years to play? I would think he would have redshirted one of those years.

MarketingBully
09-04-2016, 08:42 AM
It doesn't matter how much our OL weighs. They are terrible. Our talent isnt anywhere close to 25th in the nation. I bet less than a third of our 22 starters had offers from other SEC west schools.

Yeah, they are terrible (sarcasm). Did you even watch the game yesterday or what? The QBs had plenty of time to throw 99% of the time. When plays did get stuffed, it was running players like Holloway and Shumpert up the middle on bad reads from Williams. Whether you like it or not, we have a top 25-30 recruiting footprint. Now we are very weak at CB and we did a shitty job recruiting a QB and those two are IMO the biggest factors that will hurt us this year.

mic
09-04-2016, 09:39 AM
You have to have players for sure. The more horses the better the team.. That's not hard to figure out. But we have some talented cats ..
And when ur coach courts every job In The country , it rubs off on the team.
The country club shows up week one... Could be a very long year ...

DogsofAnarchy
09-04-2016, 12:45 PM
the problem yesterday. Coaching was. This team was not prepared and Dan will not put the best talent on the field. We have 4 running backs better than Hollaway. We have 2 OL's better than the ones that played. Dan just has to be RIGHT all the time. He has grown stagnant in his play calling and he is trying to be a finesse team instead of a power team. Simple as that.




The lack of recruiting really showed up yesterday with Dak not there to mask it. I have no doubt it's being used against us when Dan flirts with other jobs and won't commit publically. As much as Scott may not want admit it, the whole athletic dept basically depends on one sport, football. It drives the whole damn bus. He needs to do whatever he can to keep the wheels from falling off before it's too late. Recruiting is the lifeblood of the football program and the football program is the lifeblood of the athletic dept. So basically Scott's job success depends on football recruiting. Do something about it!

Commercecomet24
09-04-2016, 12:56 PM
Recruiting wasn't what got us beat yesterday. Poor gameplanning and poor personnel decisions are what lead to our loss which is on Mullen. Where was the Relf offense? We averaged 7-8 yards a play running the football. Our OL out weighed their DL by 50 pounds on average. Shit, we have three 4 star running backs who between them got 2 carries yesterday (Aeris Williams, Lee, and Gibson). If we had used those three as our running backs along with running the football in the first half, we would have worn them down in the second and imposed our will offensively. Nope, this loss is 100% on Mullen and it was not recruiting why we lost it.

Bingo! This is the correct answer!

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-04-2016, 01:22 PM
.621 ops this year
.625 ops for career

Time to give football a look, cord

He would probably go to UCF or Florida Atlantic

Op4isabitch
09-04-2016, 01:29 PM
100% on the coaches. Anyone know where Houston ranks in recruiting?

Percho
09-04-2016, 02:52 PM
Winner

Plus 2.

USM came from behind 35 - 10 last night running the football right up the gut.

They also got after some on defense once they got that feeling.

Our defense is worse than our offense in our approach IMHO.

Percho
09-04-2016, 02:56 PM
Yeah, they are terrible (sarcasm). Did you even watch the game yesterday or what? The QBs had plenty of time to throw 99% of the time. When plays did get stuffed, it was running players like Holloway and Shumpert up the middle on bad reads from Williams. Whether you like it or not, we have a top 25-30 recruiting footprint. Now we are very weak at CB and we did a shitty job recruiting a QB and those two are IMO the biggest factors that will hurt us this year.

Have we run the counter since Dixon left? We accidentally ran it once yesterday when Hollyway started one way but had to go the other and may have been his best run.

Goldendawg
09-04-2016, 03:07 PM
Take the WR runs/jet sweeps out of the equation and how did our rushing look from the RB's? Look at the time of possession. We tried to run the Dak attack without Dak, including the required Hollaway runs up the middle and still giving Shump his carries for the same results in year 4. We need to run an offense that fits the limited talent that we have at this time. Don't forget Croom plus McCorvey also equals Dan plus Hev. Our AD doesn't have the guts or ability to straighten out this mess. He is however good at marketing gimmics.

WildDawg
09-04-2016, 03:37 PM
Recruiting wasn't what got us beat yesterday. Poor gameplanning and poor personnel decisions are what lead to our loss which is on Mullen. Where was the Relf offense? We averaged 7-8 yards a play running the football. Our OL out weighed their DL by 50 pounds on average. Shit, we have three 4 star running backs who between them got 2 carries yesterday (Aeris Williams, Lee, and Gibson). If we had used those three as our running backs along with running the football in the first half, we would have worn them down in the second and imposed our will offensively. Nope, this loss is 100% on Mullen and it was not recruiting why we lost it.

I will never forget when Croom was coaching and Jackie Sherrill was asked about our team, he mentioned that we had a player in Anthony Dixon and said "I'd run him till his shoes fell off". Croom must've heard it, cause that's the offense he went to, and it got us to the Liberty Bowl and Croom COY. We need to be doing more of that now.

FWIW...Shump was a 4* recruit also if I remember correct.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
09-04-2016, 04:52 PM
When Shump was first rated he was a 5*

Goldendawg
09-04-2016, 05:05 PM
I think a couple of SEC teams wanted him to play defense and recruited him on that side of the ball. He's a beast on special teams, but our RB experiment with him is in year 4 with no change in sight.