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TheRef
07-15-2016, 07:15 PM
http://maroonandwhitenation.com/2016/07/15/report-mississippi-state-to-implement-clear-bag-policy-this-season/

This is according to the Alabama Press Release that listed MSU as a fellow school to be implementing this policy before the 2017 required mark by the SEC.

War Machine Dawg
07-15-2016, 07:39 PM
Completely ridiculous. Enough of this shit. Treating your fans like the criminals has to stop, dammit.

TheRef
07-15-2016, 07:52 PM
Completely ridiculous. Enough of this shit. Treating your fans like the criminals has to stop, dammit.

To be fair, it will speed up the bag check process, which means you'll get to your seat quicker. But the fact that it will be an 11 AM kickoff for the first game of this new policy. There's going to be A LOT of cranky people week 1 against USA.

starkvegasdawg
07-15-2016, 07:59 PM
How does that affect people bringing in coolers to baseball games?

InTheIttaBenaHotSun
07-15-2016, 08:03 PM
Hope it doesn't

PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE
07-15-2016, 08:03 PM
Just curious, what do ppl bring in bags to football games? The only thing I bring is liquid & goes around my waist but it was already on the no-fly list.

TheRef
07-15-2016, 08:04 PM
How does that affect people bringing in coolers to baseball games?

Will be interesting to see, for sure. I'm sure coolers will be an exception for baseball.

starkvegasdawg
07-15-2016, 08:07 PM
I've brought stuff in for my kids when it's cold like blankets and hidden juice boxes when it's hot.

TheRef
07-15-2016, 08:11 PM
I've brought stuff in for my kids when it's cold like blankets and hidden juice boxes when it's hot.

On that note, each patron is allowed one clear bag. So your kids can have a clear bag themselves so you can have them help carry stuff in. Blankets will be carried outside of bags and will just be draped over your shoulder or stuff like that.

Reason2succeed
07-15-2016, 08:18 PM
Safety third!!!

Dawg-gone-dawgs
07-15-2016, 08:22 PM
http://maroonandwhitenation.com/2016/07/15/report-mississippi-state-to-implement-clear-bag-policy-this-season/

This is according to the Alabama Press Release that listed MSU as a fellow school to be implementing this policy before the 2017 required mark by the SEC.

Absolutely no problem with this!! Anything to make it more safe.

Jack Lambert
07-15-2016, 09:05 PM
Sounds like another way to squeeze money out of fans unless they are going to offer them for free.

War Machine Dawg
07-15-2016, 09:11 PM
Sounds like another way to squeeze money out of fans unless they are going to offer them for free.

This too.

TheRef
07-15-2016, 09:20 PM
Sounds like another way to squeeze money out of fans unless they are going to offer them for free.

You can use a Gallon Ziploc bag and bring it in too.

WildDawg
07-15-2016, 09:24 PM
Don't have to worry about clear bags at home. Have to wonder if this will lower fan support at the games?

TheRef
07-15-2016, 09:33 PM
Don't have to worry about clear bags at home. Have to wonder if this will lower fan support at the games?

If that's the case, then in 2017 it will be down conference wide. Doesn't seem to affect the NFL much considering they have the same policy.

Jack Lambert
07-15-2016, 09:55 PM
If that's the case, then in 2017 it will be down conference wide. Doesn't seem to affect the NFL much considering they have the same policy.

but you can buy beer at their stadium.

Irondawg
07-15-2016, 10:16 PM
It's still gonna take people by surprise. Got me and my wife off guard when we went to a Saints game 2 years ago. It had been about 5 years since we had gone to a game and we just weren't aware of the policy

TaleofTwoDogs
07-15-2016, 10:34 PM
Ask and you shall receive................


2374

Jack Lambert
07-15-2016, 10:57 PM
Ask and you shall receive................


2374

Women cannot carry purses and the bags they carry will be clear. So out of six home games there is a chance a few 1000 women will not attend every game due to monthly cycle.

Memphisbulldog
07-15-2016, 11:20 PM
Just curious, what do ppl bring in bags to football games? The only thing I bring is liquid & goes around my waist but it was already on the no-fly list.


The main thing this affects is a woman's purse. No regular purses.

HereComesTheSpiral
07-15-2016, 11:47 PM
Just curious, what do ppl bring in bags to football games? The only thing I bring is liquid & goes around my waist but it was already on the no-fly list.

Rain jacket and rain pants.

msujan
07-16-2016, 02:56 AM
What does a monthly cycle have to do with plastic bags? LOL. We're smart enough to put the necessities in something so as not to be seen. Come on!

baddmann
07-16-2016, 08:36 AM
My wife is not happy... We just got her a new purse for mother's day just to use for football and baseball.

Dawgface
07-16-2016, 08:49 AM
In today's world, I understand the policy. It's a shame, but probably necessary.

Beaver
07-16-2016, 08:50 AM
Women cannot carry purses and the bags they carry will be clear. So out of six home games there is a chance a few 1000 women will not attend every game due to monthly cycle.

Policy says you're allowed to bring a small clutch purse in addition to a clear bag.

dickiedawg
07-16-2016, 09:25 AM
Has this been confirmed or denied by anyone at the university?

Seems like they should have issued a press release by now if the cat is out of the bag.

TheRef
07-16-2016, 09:56 AM
Has this been confirmed or denied by anyone at the university?

Seems like they should have issued a press release by now if the cat is out of the bag.

Hasn't been denied...Alabama's release explicitly stated that MSU would have it in place this season.

dickiedawg
07-16-2016, 10:22 AM
I realize Alabama's press release listed MSU.
But I don't view that as a super reliable source on the subject. It's weird that no one has sought verification, or if they have that it wasn't verified from our end.

TheRef
07-16-2016, 10:25 AM
I realize Alabama's press release listed MSU.
But I don't view that as a super reliable source on the subject. It's weird that no one has sought verification, or if they have that it wasn't verified from our end.

I'll send an email tonight to see. It'll probably be Monday before I get a response however.

sandwolf
07-16-2016, 11:07 AM
In today's world, I understand the policy. It's a shame, but probably necessary.

Agreed. I am honestly surprised that a sporting event hasn't been hit yet.

Duckdog
07-16-2016, 12:39 PM
This is stupid

msubullylady
07-16-2016, 02:17 PM
Hi, I went ahead & purchased one from Amazon. There are several selections ranging from $8.00 and up. I will buy a decal and decorate. Just a suggestion ~

David Luiz's Afro
07-16-2016, 02:22 PM
Boston marathon. Football match in France.

RocketDawg
07-16-2016, 05:42 PM
Hi, I went ahead & purchased one from Amazon. There are several selections ranging from $8.00 and up. I will buy a decal and decorate. Just a suggestion ~

Link to what you bought? Remember it's still got to fit in the sizing box.

msubullylady
07-16-2016, 05:53 PM
I am new to posting ~ I pray this is the correct way.....
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MEZKF1I/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468709359&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=stadium+tote+bag&dpPl=1&dpID=51PDUqyjO-L&ref=plSrch

TheRef
07-16-2016, 06:06 PM
I am new to posting ~ I pray this is the correct way.....
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MEZKF1I/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468709359&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=stadium+tote+bag&dpPl=1&dpID=51PDUqyjO-L&ref=plSrch

That's a good bag. 12" x 12" x 6"

msubullylady
07-16-2016, 06:10 PM
Thank you....I thought so! I know there are more stylish, cuter ones available, but this will be just fine after I add a decal ~

TheRef
07-16-2016, 06:12 PM
Thank you....I thought so! I know there are more stylish, cuter ones available, but this will be just fine after I add a decal ~

Good rule of thumb on this: If it says NFL clear bag compliant, then you're good to go.

RocketDawg
07-16-2016, 06:45 PM
I am new to posting ~ I pray this is the correct way.....
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MEZKF1I/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1468709359&sr=8-2&pi=SY200_QL40&keywords=stadium+tote+bag&dpPl=1&dpID=51PDUqyjO-L&ref=plSrch

Yes, that worked. Thanks! My wife will need one and that one looks ideal, as well as being Prime.

RocketDawg
07-16-2016, 06:47 PM
Thank you....I thought so! I know there are more stylish, cuter ones available, but this will be just fine after I add a decal ~


Think the decals or stickers will stay on the bag?

I seen it dawg
07-16-2016, 06:52 PM
It's the new world because of all the stupid pieces of shit in it. Deal.

TheRef
07-16-2016, 06:54 PM
Think the decals or stickers will stay on the bag?

Depends on the type of decals you place on the plastic. Should be able to see on the package if the decal stays on plastic/PVC.

I seen it dawg
07-16-2016, 06:56 PM
As long it's a GTHOM sticker you're good

TheRef
07-16-2016, 07:02 PM
MSU Game Ops has confirmed that the clear bag policy is in place this upcoming season.

https://twitter.com/HailStateOps/status/754461843230425088

msubullylady
07-16-2016, 07:43 PM
Y'all are most welcome.....I suppose I will check out stickers/decals both when I get to StarkVegas. Wouldnt be necessary though....just jazz up with some maroon/white chevron ribbon or an inexpensive scarf even ~

AusTexDawg
07-18-2016, 09:37 AM
FWIW, A&M is implementing this policy starting in August 2016 as well for all ticketed athletic events. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about this at more schools starting in the upcoming school year.

scottycameron
07-18-2016, 03:02 PM
FWIW, A&M is implementing this policy starting in August 2016 as well for all ticketed athletic events. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about this at more schools starting in the upcoming school year.

Absolutely. We all know how Muslims flock to college football games in the fall *****

Granny has to bring hers purse stuff in a plastic bag now. Makes sense***

TheRef
07-18-2016, 03:34 PM
FWIW, A&M is implementing this policy starting in August 2016 as well for all ticketed athletic events. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear about this at more schools starting in the upcoming school year.

All SEC schools will have this policy starting at the 2017 football season.

rem101
07-19-2016, 07:48 AM
Women cannot carry purses and the bags they carry will be clear. So out of six home games there is a chance a few 1000 women will not attend every game due to monthly cycle.

If it reflects the NFL policy, you can carry a 5x7 bag that doesn't have to be clear. I bought my wife the phone case that carries her ID and credit card for when we go to Saints games. Guess she'll use that for State games now too.

TheRef
07-19-2016, 10:38 AM
If it reflects the NFL policy, you can carry a 5x7 bag that doesn't have to be clear. I bought my wife the phone case that carries her ID and credit card for when we go to Saints games. Guess she'll use that for State games now too.

You can carry one clutch purse in addition to the 12 x 12 x 6 clear bag. The Purse is essentially a 5 x 7 and can have the strap, or be without the strap. Also, if you wish to bring in a sweatshirt or blanket then you may do so, and just throw it over your shoulder.

fccee1
07-19-2016, 10:55 AM
Absolutely. We all know how Muslims flock to college football games in the fall *****

Granny has to bring hers purse stuff in a plastic bag now. Makes sense***

They should make them wear clear plastic hijab

scottycameron
07-19-2016, 11:14 AM
They should make them wear clear plastic hijab

Lol, that's a great idea. We'll carry around stupid clear plastic bags because of their dumbassery, but they have to wear clear towels around their head. That's very fair.

MSUDawg99
07-19-2016, 11:16 AM
What does a monthly cycle have to do with plastic bags? LOL. We're smart enough to put the necessities in something so as not to be seen. Come on!

Thank you! Cosmetic bags still fit in clear plastic bags. Or better yet, my small shoulder strap purse fits within the parameters mentioned that IS on the fly list.

MSUDawg99
07-19-2016, 11:17 AM
Has this been confirmed or denied by anyone at the university?

Seems like they should have issued a press release by now if the cat is out of the bag.

Stricklin somewhat confirmed it the other day by answering someone's tweet on Twitter. I'm sure they're in the process of writing up the policy in our own MSU terms, not Bama's.

TheRef
07-19-2016, 11:24 AM
Stricklin somewhat confirmed it the other day by answering someone's tweet on Twitter. I'm sure they're in the process of writing up the policy in our own MSU terms, not Bama's.

Game Ops confirmed it on Twitter.

sleepy dawg
07-19-2016, 04:05 PM
Absolutely no problem with this!! Anything to make it more safe.

This will do absolutely nothing to improve game safety.

TheRef
07-19-2016, 04:25 PM
This will do absolutely nothing to improve game safety.

I beg to differ, but that's just me. It's a step.

Bama_Dawg
07-19-2016, 04:46 PM
Just curious, what do ppl bring in bags to football games? The only thing I bring is liquid & goes around my waist but it was already on the no-fly list.

My wife is diabetic so she brings her supplies. And we've also still got one in diapers, so we bring all of those supplies too, and a change of clothes for the little one.

sleepy dawg
07-19-2016, 05:53 PM
I beg to differ, but that's just me. It's a step.

What is it going to stop? There's no metal detectors or pat downs. Anything that could've fit in a small non-clear bag could just as easily be planted on you somewhere. This will be about as effective and useful as the TSA airports.

TheRef
07-19-2016, 07:33 PM
My wife is diabetic so she brings her supplies. And we've also still got one in diapers, so we bring all of those supplies too, and a change of clothes for the little one.

Just an FYI, I'm sure medical supply bags will be good to go. Diapers and change of clothes, however, will need to be in the clear bag.

TheRef
07-19-2016, 07:36 PM
What is it going to stop? There's no metal detectors or pat downs. Anything that could've fit in a small non-clear bag could just as easily be planted on you somewhere. This will be about as effective and useful as the TSA airports.

You're less likely to hide things in a plastic bag than one that could easily have hidden pockets. Also, I know you would be bitching and moaning if we started having metal detectors and pat downs. This is to help speed up the process even more, while still providing good security measures. But hey...if you want to do a full pat down before going into every single game, then be my guest. I'll talk to my people and tell you exactly which gate to go through for your special pat down, sleepy.

sandwolf
07-19-2016, 08:42 PM
What is it going to stop? There's no metal detectors or pat downs. Anything that could've fit in a small non-clear bag could just as easily be planted on you somewhere. This will be about as effective and useful as the TSA airports.

You don't think the TSA does anything to improve safety?

scottycameron
07-19-2016, 09:41 PM
You're less likely to hide things in a plastic bag than one that could easily have hidden pockets. Also, I know you would be bitching and moaning if we started having metal detectors and pat downs. This is to help speed up the process even more, while still providing good security measures. But hey...if you want to do a full pat down before going into every single game, then be my guest. I'll talk to my people and tell you exactly which gate to go through for your special pat down, sleepy.

WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

TheRef
07-19-2016, 10:07 PM
WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

Nothing more than some alcohol and the occasional knife. I was being completely sarcastic about pat downs.

msujan
07-19-2016, 10:10 PM
They have some cute ones at The Lodge. I got mine to go to the Orange Bowl, but I actually saw some today in the store.

War Machine Dawg
07-19-2016, 10:18 PM
WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

I've been patted down before I could enter at Oxford and Memphis. I gave them hell about it for a bit and told them they better not touch me without a warrant. This bullshit has gone too far. Treating citizens like criminals is crazy. But hey, we're now in the Socialist States of America, where the Elites are above the law and we the Plebes are content to trade our liberty for false security.

RocketDawg
07-20-2016, 07:45 AM
Nothing more than some alcohol and the occasional knife. I was being completely sarcastic about pat downs.

I'm pretty sure they did a pat down at the Music City Bowl, and had metal detectors.

missouridawg
07-20-2016, 08:01 AM
WTH would you need to do a pat down on anybody entering our stadium? Where the hell do y'all come up with this crap? What do you people think we are sneaking into DWS?

To be fair, Oktibbeha County did have two ISIS sympathizers arrested recently. I'm all for improving security, even if it means longer lines. Each individual just needs to plan appropriately.

TheRef
07-20-2016, 08:44 AM
I'm pretty sure they did a pat down at the Music City Bowl, and had metal detectors.

I wouldn't doubt it. Most NFL stadiums have much more strict protocols than NCAA stadiums. Then again, I haven't been to an NFL stadium, so I might be talking out my arse

sleepy dawg
07-20-2016, 09:20 AM
You don't think the TSA does anything to improve safety?

Every private test I've read about over the years, the TSA has failed to stop. There is 0 evidence they have ever stopped a terrorist attack. The TSA is a scare tactic at best.

Sure, they've confiscated firearms, but again, there that was being done before the TSA too.

The only thing this new rule does is prevent women from bringing in their purses. Almost anything you could've fit in a purse could easily be hidden somewhere else on you.

TheRef
07-20-2016, 10:06 AM
Every private test I've read about over the years, the TSA has failed to stop. There is 0 evidence they have ever stopped a terrorist attack. The TSA is a scare tactic at best.

Sure, they've confiscated firearms, but again, there that was being done before the TSA too.

The only thing this new rule does is prevent women from bringing in their purses. Almost anything you could've fit in a purse could easily be hidden somewhere else on you.

Not really...it really does more than just prevent women from bringing in purses. If you really get down to it, everyone that brings in diaper bags, camera bags, students that bring in backpacks, satchels, fanny packs, etc, those are the ones who will be affected. If you're pissed off about the new rule, it could be worse. I know a couple of Big 10 schools who won't let you bring in any bag at all, including purses. We all know that alcohol is coming in on people, but unless you want us taking the time to pat down every single individual who comes through the gates, then suck it up and be happy with the current safety measures.

sleepy dawg
07-20-2016, 10:29 AM
Not really...it really does more than just prevent women from bringing in purses. If you really get down to it, everyone that brings in diaper bags, camera bags, students that bring in backpacks, satchels, fanny packs, etc, those are the ones who will be affected. If you're pissed off about the new rule, it could be worse. I know a couple of Big 10 schools who won't let you bring in any bag at all, including purses. We all know that alcohol is coming in on people, but unless you want us taking the time to pat down every single individual who comes through the gates, then suck it up and be happy with the current safety measures.

I'm not pissed off about it. It doesn't affect me in the least. I was just responding to those who think this is going to cut down on all that terrorism that happens in our stadium.
I don't ever carry any bags in. However, I have smuggled in alcohol and cowbells numerous times without needing a non-clear bag to do so. Other items of similar size would be just as easy. They've always searched bags anyway, so anyone who was trying to sneak something in would've probably hid it outside their bag anyway. I just believe it's an unnecessary policy and do not it believe it will be effective. Anyone that truly wants to cause harm, will find a way.

Dawg61
07-20-2016, 10:37 AM
It's called being proactive not reactive. Why wait for a bad incident to occur before implementing the clear bag policy? The rest of the country already has it in place. Let's stop being the last state to implement things for once.

scottycameron
07-20-2016, 11:31 AM
Also we need to make sure everyone is changing their underwear daily. From now on underwear will be worn on the outside so it can be checked.

Dawg61
07-20-2016, 12:07 PM
Also we need to make sure everyone is changing their underwear daily. From now on underwear will be worn on the outside so it can be checked.

That sucks for you since you're still wearing your great grandma's civil war bloomers

sleepy dawg
07-20-2016, 12:49 PM
I've been patted down before I could enter at Oxford and Memphis. I gave them hell about it for a bit and told them they better not touch me without a warrant. This bullshit has gone too far. Treating citizens like criminals is crazy. But hey, we're now in the Socialist States of America, where the Elites are above the law and we the Plebes are content to trade our liberty for false security.

ding ding ding ding! This, all day long.

TheRef
07-20-2016, 01:03 PM
FWIW, in talking to people about this, most people are okay with the new policy. Did a Twitter poll and out of over 300 votes, 47% said it was a necessary measure for safety, while 26% said they didn't care. Only 13% of those who responded said that it was stupid/get rid of it.

sleepy dawg
07-20-2016, 01:52 PM
FWIW, in talking to people about this, most people are okay with the new policy. Did a Twitter poll and out of over 300 votes, 47% said it was a necessary measure for safety, while 26% said they didn't care. Only 13% of those who responded said that it was stupid/get rid of it.

Which group do you fall in ref? I am in both the "don't care" and the "stupid/get rid of it" groups. Ultimately, I don't care because I don't bring in bags. I think it's "stupid/get rid of it" because I really don't see it helping anything at all.

Can someone name a bad event in the past 20 years inside one of our stadiums that this policy would've prevented from happening? I get the idea of it being proactive, but what specific situation is it going to stop... And in those scenarios, is there not a similar path that person could take to get a similar result to get around the new policy? I just can't think of a scenario that this would stop if someone was serious about causing harm.

I'm not trying to rustle the feathers of anyone who is in support of it. It just seems like it should be simple to lay out clear scenarios this is going to stop if you are going to implement such a policy.

scottycameron
07-20-2016, 02:03 PM
I could have told you nerds on Twitter would be all for it.

TheRef
07-20-2016, 02:05 PM
Which group do you fall in ref? I am in both the "don't care" and the "stupid/get rid of it" groups. Ultimately, I don't care because I don't bring in bags. I think it's "stupid/get rid of it" because I really don't see it helping anything at all.

Can someone name a bad event in the past 20 years inside one of our stadiums that this policy would've prevented from happening? I get the idea of it being proactive, but what specific situation is it going to stop... And in those scenarios, is there not a similar path that person could take to get a similar result to get around the new policy? I just can't think of a scenario that this would stop if someone was serious about causing harm.

I'm not trying to rustle the feathers of anyone who is in support of it. It just seems like it should be simple to lay out clear scenarios this is going to stop if you are going to implement such a policy.

I'm in the support group of this. As someone who has been in groups to help implement plans such as this in venues, I know the pros and cons of each system that could be placed. And trust me, I've heard every complaint and insult in the book. I've dealt with hundreds of angry fans and patrons with events and games.

The more streamlined we can make the process of you getting into a stadium, while keeping security measures at an acceptable level, the better the outcome for the event and patrons. This is all about making it quicker to get in without sacrificing security.

And yes...there are ways to get around it. But it's not cost-effective to put everyone through a body scanner and do pat downs for every game. Time and money are two key commodities in the world of event security and planning.

Let's put it this way, in events that I've worked and supervised, I've had to confiscate everything from a water bottle filled with alcohol, to a pistol by a CCP holder that didn't understand the gun policy for the venue. And these weren't at backwoods venues, these were at SEC stadiums and venues. In each case, after a little bit of discussion, they understood the safety concerns presented and complied to the posted policies. 9 times out of 10 the policy works as it should, which is that no major incidents occur at the events.

Goldendawg
07-20-2016, 04:43 PM
One of my last Egg Bowl visits to Oxford( will never go back again), I was pulled out of line and patted down by "security", (not a licensed law officer), just for being dressed as a State fan. They claimed to be looking for a cowbell, which I did not have. It was humiliating and I pitched a fit to no avail. I think the clear bags are a good idea in today's world, especially in view of the threat of some crazy looking for a soft target to hit. Wonder how this will affect sneaking in pint bottles of booze at some other SEC stadiums, one in particular?

msubullylady
07-20-2016, 05:46 PM
Hi....following up. My clear bag arrived today. I think it will be perfect for my needs......meds, kleenex, phone. Hail State ~

TheRef
07-20-2016, 05:52 PM
Hi....following up. My clear bag arrived today. I think it will be perfect for my needs......meds, kleenex, phone. Hail State ~

Great to hear!

MSUDawg99
07-21-2016, 01:53 PM
Mine supposed to arrive this wknd...but I'll be in Starkville all wknd. Will get it Sun. night.

DudyDawg
07-22-2016, 07:12 AM
As long as I can still bring my whiskey in my waist band, I don't give a damn

sleepy dawg
07-22-2016, 10:18 AM
As long as I can still bring my whiskey in my waist band, I don't give a damn

You can bring in anything you would've brought in already. This policy in and of itself will not prevent anything.