OT: Big TV

[Engine]

Looking to buy a nice sized tv 55" or larger. Any suggestions?

Nothing with that awful "soap opera effect" picture that is horrid.

[MaroonDawg4Life]

i bought a 65" samsung 4k uhd. I love it! Great picture for all sports!

[CadaverDawg]

Looking to buy a nice sized tv 55" or larger. Any suggestions?

Nothing with that awful "soap opera effect" picture that is horrid.

PM me ASAP

[RocketDawg]

Not sure what the "soap opera effect" is, but I bought a 65" Samsung 4K 3D in January. Love it. I've never even tried 3D though.

4K streams nicely but you need HDMI 2.0 high speed cables. You can buy them on Amazon for very little, or pay about $85 each in HH Gregg.

[dparker]

They all have the "soap opera" effect now. It's how they smooth the frame rate but you can go into the settings and turn it off on any TV. Fun fact: The higher frame rate is technically a better standard it's just that we American's mentally associate it with Soap Opera's because they historically used the cameras that supported it. And as such we don't like it.

[PassInterference]

The soap opera effect is s smoothing function that can be turned off on the TV's settings.

It has nothing to do with cameras that support some kind of soap opera feature. Soap operas were shot with too much light on the subject while the background looked fuzzy.

The smoothing effect does the same thing to make the foreground look unnaturally sharp.

While looking at any TV in a store, I would ask for the remote control. Then go through the TV menu options to see if you can turn off the picture smoothing. If you can't figure it out, ask the sales person how.

[CadaverDawg]

The soap opera effect is s smoothing function that can be turned off on the TV's settings.

It has nothing to do with cameras that support some kind of soap opera feature. Soap operas were shot with too much light on the subject while the background looked fuzzy.

The smoothing effect does the same thing to make the foreground look unnaturally sharp.

While looking at any TV in a store, I would ask for the remote control. Then go through the TV menu options to see if you can turn off the picture smoothing. If you can't figure it out, ask the sales person how.

Yea each manufacturer calls it something different in their menu...but it's easy to turn off. I bought the 65" Samsung Curve last night and turned off the soap opera effect easily after googling

[Dawgology]

Looking to buy a nice sized tv 55" or larger. Any suggestions?

Nothing with that awful "soap opera effect" picture that is horrid.

I searched all over the place for about 6 months trying to find the perfect tv for my needs. I love the idea of 4K but it's not offered in our area and even though HBO Go and some other streaming services offer 4K if your ISP can't deliver 4K then it's not true 4K you are getting. At that point your TV tries to upscale to 4K and you get that soap opera look. I checked Best Buy, Cowboy Malone's, Target, and Walmart. Ended up choosing a 55" LED HD Vizio Smart TV from Walmart for only $800. Target and Best Buy both had the exact same TV with the EXACT same specs but wanted $500 more for it. I've loved it. Sports look great on it and movies and PS4 games look great on it. It's probably not the greatest of the greatest but I'm loving it and folks that stop by always ask what brand it is because it look so good.

And you can't beat that price.

[Coldsleeve Jr.]

I got a 65" Vizio and surprisingly the pic quality is way better than our Samsung smart tv. About 30% less the price also.

[Engine]

Do you need ultra high speed internet with these, as in the highest priced option provided? Is 4K an obvious listing?

[RocketDawg]

Do you need ultra high speed internet with these, as in the highest priced option provided?

No. I have 60 MBPS and things stream fine. And most of the time I'm not getting 60.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Just wait for the price on the OLED tvs to drop. Looked at one in Best Buy next to a 4K and the 4K looked horrible in comparison. Of course this could be Best Buy purposefully doing this to get you to want to buy the $8000 tv over the $2000 tv.

[Dawgology]

No. I have 60 MBPS and things stream fine. And most of the time I'm not getting 60.

We are stuck with 17'n AT&T DSL out here as the ONLY option. Lucky to get 3 MBPS on the highest package available. It's an f'n joke.

[dparker]

It has nothing to do with cameras that support some kind of soap opera feature. Soap operas were shot with too much light on the subject while the background looked fuzzy.



Only commenting on this since there is nothing interesting to discuss but there are different cameras used for soap operas. Because they needed to be recorded cheaply they used video cameras instead of film. Traditionally film was recorded at 24 fps (frames per second) and the video cameras they used recorded at 30 fps. So the higher frame rate gives a smoother motion that we associated with video. Now why we don't like it has a lot to do with what you said about soaps having poor filming technique (too bright, bad script, bad props, etc.) due to the budget. We've subconsciously associated the smoother frame rate with all that stuff because it was the main thing shown on US TV that way. So much so that when good filmographers try to use a higher frame rate people lose their mind about the "soap opera" effect. Just to google Hobbit 48 fps reviews to see what I mean. Here is a decent article on it. http://hometheaterreview.com/what-is-soap-opera-effect-and-how-to-make-it-go-away/

[the59dawg]

Amen. Same problem w AT&T. But 3 MPS streams ok most of the time.

[Bullsy]

Samsung no questions asked

[PassInterference]

Is there any way to get rid of SDTV on Uverse other than hiding 800 channels individually?

[dickiedawg]

Is there any way to get rid of SDTV on Uverse other than hiding 800 channels individually?

I'm not a UVerse user but a Google search suggested it doesn't have a "show Hd only" option.
I would start by trying to create a favorites list rather than trying to hide all of them... How many of the channels do you actually watch?

[Engine]

If I can't find a stupid good deal I think I'm leaning towards the Sony 930D.

[Engine]

Just wait for the price on the OLED tvs to drop. Looked at one in Best Buy next to a 4K and the 4K looked horrible in comparison. Of course this could be Best Buy purposefully doing this to get you to want to buy the $8000 tv over the $2000 tv.

Those look awesome but again stupid expensive.

[greenbean]

I got a 65" Vizio and surprisingly the pic quality is way better than our Samsung smart tv. About 30% less the price also.

I have the Vizio too, good picture at a good price. When it comes to this technology, better to be in the trailing end than leading edge.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Those look awesome but again stupid expensive.

The price has fallen quite a bit over the last few months, if you can hold out a little longer they will begin settling at the market price around $2000-2500 for 65 inch tvs.

[Msudogsrule]

Either get an OLED or a 4K that has HDR. The Vizio P series is a nice option and comes with a great little remote as well. If you don't get one with either of those technologies, then it is an obsolete set already.

[Indndawg]

If you truly want the best PQ, go OLED, 4K. Here's an amazon link.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_4?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=oled+tv+4k&sprefix=OLED%2Celectronics%2C199

[Barking 13]

We are stuck with 17'n AT&T DSL out here as the ONLY option. Lucky to get 3 MBPS on the highest package available. It's an f'n joke.

Try Centurylink 1.5mbps... and it's on average 1.2.. forget streaming, and it has a hard time loading this site. It takes about 5 minutes to load FWTCT.

Thank God for awful Direct TV....

[Dawgology]

Try Centurylink 1.5mbps... and it's on average 1.2.. forget streaming, and it has a hard time loading this site. It takes about 5 minutes to load FWTCT.

Thank God for awful Direct TV....

That's terrible. I wish there was another option for those of us without cable access in our area. I used to complain about Cable One. If I had only known the horrors of DSL. We tried the satellite based internet but it was horrible also (high ping rates) and very expensive.

[MaroonDawg25]

I'm pretty sure when you say "soap opera effect" you mean how smooth it runs. Soap Operas and now other HD shows are filmed at 60 frames per second instead of the normal 24. This gives you 36 more frames each second making it seems smoother.

If you have a TV that is 60 Hertz or Hrz this will register all the frames. If you have a TV with lower hrz or refresh rate it will only register the number of frames as hrz. So a 42 hrz tv will only register 42 frames per second whether or not it's filmed in 24 or 60.

I haven't bought a new TV in a while but if what others are saying is true and you can turn the "effect" off you're basically just underclocking the screen to run at lower than 60 hrz and not being able to register all the frames per second. So basically in short don't by a TV with 60+ hrz if you don't plan on using them all because it will be a waste of money.

ETA: If you don't have an HD receiver and dish I don't think you'll have a problem because most non HD shows are filmed at 24 so it doesn't matter how many hrz your screen is it will only get to 24 frames per second. With the sole exception of Soap Operas I'm pretty sure but don't quote me on that.

[Engine]

If you truly want the best PQ, go OLED, 4K. Here's an amazon link.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_4?url=search-alias%3Delectronics&field-keywords=oled+tv+4k&sprefix=OLED%2Celectronics%2C199

What is the difference in 2015 and 2016 4K OLED LG's?

[Engine]

What is the difference in 2015 and 2016 4K OLED LG's?

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[32 Dive]

You can get a LG 55" (Curved) OLED on Amazon, for $1600 (https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-55EG9100-55-Inch-Curved/dp/B0148OZNKK/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1467301428&sr=1-2&keywords=oled+tv). Or, a Flat OLED for $2000 (https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-55EF9500-55-Inch-Ultra/dp/B010RWWQF2/ref=sr_1_1?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1467301428&sr=1-1&keywords=oled+tv) So, they are starting to come down...

[Engine]

You can get a LG 55" (Curved) OLED on Amazon, for $1600 (https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-55EG9100-55-Inch-Curved/dp/B0148OZNKK/ref=sr_1_2?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1467301428&sr=1-2&keywords=oled+tv). Or, a Flat OLED for $2000 (https://www.amazon.com/LG-Electronics-55EF9500-55-Inch-Ultra/dp/B010RWWQF2/ref=sr_1_1?s=tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1467301428&sr=1-1&keywords=oled+tv) So, they are starting to come down...

The 2015's. What's upgraded on the 2016's that keep them 4000$+?

Are 2015 OLED 4K LG's better than the brand new Sony/Samsung 4K's

[dparker]

The 2015's. What's upgraded on the 2016's that keep them 4000$+?

Are 2015 OLED 4K LG's better than the brand new Sony/Samsung 4K's

AVS Forums is where I go to ask questions like that. Very knowledgeable forum. Link to OLED section (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-oled-technology-flat-panels-general/)

Also a Link to the OLED deals found (http://www.avsforum.com/forum/322-oled-technology-great-found-deals/) section if anyone's looking. Hypnodawg has an OLED and I'll be the first to say that they are awesome. As soon as my old Pioneer Kuro plasma gives out I'll be picking one up.