Freeze quotes from teleconference

[Really Clark?]

Freeze: We've had some adversity around our place since draft night. Admin working to reach a resolution. I'm told we made a lot of progress

Freeze: Our admin will work with all the parties to reach a conclusion as soon as possible, which we hope comes quickly.

(Asked by someone about paying players) Freeze: Again, I'm not in the process of the fact-finding process. I know our admin is working and i'm told they made a lot of progress.

Freeze: I think it depends on what the facts reveal. Ross and I haven't discussed next step. Get facts first.

Sounds like what many of us have speculated, the administration has taken the lead role over the athletic department and negotiations are being held about who and/or how many heads will roll.

[jumbo]

crap, mods delete my thread

[jumbo]

sounds like a risky strategy for Freeze. head coaches can't play dumb anymore, but if they can 100% without a doubt prove they didn't know that an assistant was doing what they were doing they can survive.

[HoopsDawg]

The NCAA has to send a message. If Ole Miss gets off easy, there's no incentive not to cheat.

[lefty96]

sounds like a risky strategy for Freeze. head coaches can't play dumb anymore, but if they can 100% without a doubt prove they didn't know that an assistant was doing what they were doing they can survive.

I'm amazed he got on the call. I think he is a raging moron, but there isn't much he can do at this point. I wish SI or ESPN turns up something meaty here soon just to keep the pressure up.

[Bodaski]

Suppose you were present somewhere and a recruit was possibly offered extra incentive by an alum or someone of that nature. Would you be guilty then? Just asking???

[Covercorner2]

I thought Ole Miss was already aware of the Tunsil situation prior to draft night and had all the facts (docs) to support it?

[DancingRabbit]

http://optionsmeister.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Sgt-Schultz2.jpg

[Really Clark?]

Missed this one:

Freeze: I know nothing. I'm not involved in the fact finding process. I was shocked like everyone else.

[HoopsDawg]

Suppose you were present somewhere and a recruit was possibly offered extra incentive by an alum or someone of that nature. Would you be guilty then? Just asking???

can you spell it out? I have no clue what you are asking.

[Really Clark?]

Suppose you were present somewhere and a recruit was possibly offered extra incentive by an alum or someone of that nature. Would you be guilty then? Just asking???

If you are a member of the staff and don't report it to compliance, yes you are guilty and could possibly face a show cause. If you lie or try to cover up your knowledge and the NCAA finds out, you will get a show cause.

[HoopsDawg]

If you are a member of the staff and don't report it to compliance, yes you are guilty and could possibly face a show cause. If you lie or try to cover up your knowledge and the NCAA finds out, you will get a show cause.

And also if this is an ongoing situation, your university has created a culture of non-compliance, i.e. lack of institutional control.

[SailingDawg]

http://dailynewsdig.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/20-Funny-Shocked-Cat-Memes-12.jpg

[smootness]

Missed this one:

Freeze: I know nothing. I'm not involved in the fact finding process. I was shocked like everyone else.

Did he say he was shocked? If so, there goes that whole 'this is part of the legal emergency fund' crap.

[confucius say]

Suppose you were present somewhere and a recruit was possibly offered extra incentive by an alum or someone of that nature. Would you be guilty then? Just asking???

Well this is not at all what happened with freeze, but in your hypothetical am I a head coach who is recruiting the player and the alum is a booster of my school? If so, yes.

[Beaver]

Freeze on February 3rd -- "We’ve had four consecutive top 15 classes. I know how we do things. I know how our staff does things." Link (http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/hugh-freeze-discusses-2016-class/)

Freeze on Cinco de Mayo -- "I know nothing"

[confucius say]

Freeze: We've had some adversity around our place since draft night. Admin working to reach a resolution. I'm told we made a lot of progress

Freeze: Our admin will work with all the parties to reach a conclusion as soon as possible, which we hope comes quickly.

(Asked by someone about paying players) Freeze: Again, I'm not in the process of the fact-finding process. I know our admin is working and i'm told they made a lot of progress.

Freeze: I think it depends on what the facts reveal. Ross and I haven't discussed next step. Get facts first.

Sounds like what many of us have speculated, the administration has taken the lead role over the athletic department and negotiations are being held about who and/or how many heads will roll.

Sounds like to me he is trying to distance himself from the whole saga. Barney is his boy so going to be tough to throw him under the bus. And Barney doesn't scratch his butt without freeze's approval so I'm not buying he and Miller went rogue on this.

[TrapGame]

Oh, he's screwed.

Dead Man Walking.

[Coach34]

Freeze on February 3rd -- "We’ve had four consecutive top 15 classes. I know how we do things. I know how our staff does things." Link (http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/hugh-freeze-discusses-2016-class/)

Freeze on Cinco de Mayo -- "I know nothing"

great post

[Really Clark?]

Did he say he was shocked? If so, there goes that whole 'this is part of the legal emergency fund' crap.

Per Paulling that was Freeze's quote

[Mjoelner34]

Freeze on February 3rd -- "We’ve had four consecutive top 15 classes. I know how we do things. I know how our staff does things." Link (http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/hugh-freeze-discusses-2016-class/)

Freeze on Cinco de Mayo -- "I know nothing"

Posted this yesterday but it fits here too:

December 15th, 2015: "And we all follow the plan I created for recruiting." http://gridironnow.com/hugh-freezes-recruiting-ability-has-changed-ole-miss/

[ILOATHEBears]

Oh, he's screwed.

Dead Man Walking.

Refresh my memory. What did the NCAA get usm's ex basketball coach on that got him a show cause? I just don't recall anything as bad as what freeze is associated with such as loaner cars, mommas rent, cheating the act system etc....

[Really Clark?]

Refresh my memory. What did the NCAA get usm's ex basketball coach on that got him a show cause? I just don't recall anything as bad as what freeze is associated with such as loaner cars, mommas rent, cheating the act system etc....

Burner phones, arranging fraudulent academic credit, lying and impermissible financial aid. Got a 10 year show cause tied for the longest in history I believe with Bliss from Baylor

[ILOATHEBears]

Burner phones, arranging fraudulent academic credit, lying and impermissible financial aid. Got a 10 year show cause tied for the longest in history I believe with Bliss from Baylor

Sounds like they both have a lot in common.

[DCdawg]

Was Freeze asked directly if he had any knowledge of players receiving money?

[HSVDawg]

If you are a member of the staff and don't report it to compliance, yes you are guilty and could possibly face a show cause. If you lie or try to cover up your knowledge and the NCAA finds out, you will get a show cause.

Even if Freeze legitimately didn't know about the payments arranged by Miller / Farrar, he can still be hit with the "failure to monitor" charge that also leads to a show cause. That should be fairly automatic considering he had more than one member of his staff that were engaging in improprieties.

[Really Clark?]

Was Freeze asked directly if he had any knowledge of players receiving money?

Yes. Or something to the effect of paying players

[Martianlander]

Did he say he was shocked? If so, there goes that whole 'this is part of the legal emergency fund' crap.

Yes, he was shocked like the policeman in Casa Blanca was shocked to find gambling there.

[DancingRabbit]

In January 2015 Freeze referred to John Miller as "simply the best". Didn't say exactly what he was the best at.

Miller once describe his job as "head babysitter".

[Liverpooldawg]

Yes, he was shocked like the policeman in Casa Blanca was shocked to find gambling there.

THIS

[AlmostPositive]

never gets old.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

[maroonmania]

sounds like a risky strategy for Freeze. head coaches can't play dumb anymore, but if they can 100% without a doubt prove they didn't know that an assistant was doing what they were doing they can survive.

I'm pretty sure the NCAA has eliminated "plausible deniability" from the HC position if his assistants are directly implicated in paying players. And I'm not sure how you would ever "prove without a doubt" that you didn't know something.

[ShotgunDawg]

February

Bjork & Freeze: "I am confident that how we do things inside this building are the right way."

May

Freeze: "I'm shocked. I know nothing."

Isn't Freeze saying he's confident that things are being done the right way and then saying "I'm shocked and know nothing" by definition failure to monitor and lack of institutional control. If they don't know what's going on inside the building that is lack of control

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

In January 2015 Freeze referred to John Miller as "simply the best". Didn't say exactly what he was the best at.

Miller once describe his job as "head babysitter".

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/05/ole_miss_building_the_right_wa.html

Miller, who described his job as "the head babysitter," came to Oxford after 17 years at Southern Miss, his alma mater.

"We'll build this thing on family," Miller said. "We're a Christian-based staff. We don't allow any cussing in the building, not by the players, coaches, not on the field or anything. We do it a little bit different than you'll see throughout the country. When we get this thing going, our players will know that we care about them."

[ILOATHEBears]

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2012/05/ole_miss_building_the_right_wa.html

Miller, who described his job as "the head babysitter," came to Oxford after 17 years at Southern Miss, his alma mater.

"We'll build this thing on family," Miller said. "We're a Christian-based staff. We don't allow any cussing in the building, not by the players, coaches, not on the field or anything. We do it a little bit different than you'll see throughout the country. When we get this thing going, our players will know that we care about them."

Can someone pull the clip of freeze saying 17U to one of his own fans as he walked to locker room

[archdog]

Freeze on February 3rd -- "We?ve had four consecutive top 15 classes. I know how we do things. I know how our staff does things." Link (http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ole-miss-football/hugh-freeze-discusses-2016-class/)

Freeze on Cinco de Mayo -- "I know nothing"

Paging Paul Finebaum. Someone please tweet this to him.

[basedog]

"Ward aren't you a little hard on the Beav"?

Leave it to Beaver, great show huh?

[Bothrops]

The NCAA has to send a message. If Ole Miss gets off easy, there's no incentive not to cheat.

And if there's no reason not to cheat, MSU losses.

[starkvegasdawg]

"Ward aren't you a little hard on the Beav"?

Leave it to Beaver, great show huh?

Imagine the irony if one of the NCAA investigators was named Ward.

[basedog]

Imagine the irony if one of the NCAA investigators was named Ward.

LMBO, well Ward or No Ward somebody is gonna be a little hard on the Beav!

[fishwater99]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/hugh-freeze-said-he-was--shocked--by-laremy-tunsil-s-admission-174838707.html


Comments section is getting good..

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Can someone pull the clip of freeze saying 17U to one of his own fans as he walked to locker room


https://youtu.be/H0CZn_ZWutI

[SailingDawg]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/hugh-freeze-said-he-was--shocked--by-laremy-tunsil-s-admission-174838707.html


Comments section is getting good..

Poor gal, living life with a pair of rose colored glasses.

Deborah 5 minutes ago
You people are stupid. Coach Freeze is one of the most ethical men in coaching. I would never say Tunsil wouldn't take money from someone but I will say it wouldn't be the coaching staff; Freeze would have them out the door in a heartbeat.

And a lot of teams go from trainwrecks to great teams. Freeze came into a program that had some decent talent but a fired coach was terrible kept throwing the kids under the bus and they gave up...all because Nutt couldn't quit chasing the women, and Freeze is a great recruiter was when he was at Ole Miss before. Plus Ole Miss got rid of Poole the athletic director who was all about his power and not the good of the athletic program. He was so vile that former players who had spoke out in favor of his removal were not allowed in the athletic facilities when they came back to visit while those who liked him were welcomed with open arms.

As far as beating AL 2 years in a row. In 2014 they came into Oxford overconfident after the 2013 blowout and met a Rebel team trying to vindicate themselves and a couple of costly mistakes cost them the game; much like Auburn's win over them in 2013, and A&M in 2012#$%$ happens in in 2015 they were hurting from injuries. Not that I am not thrilled we beat them but I am a realist and saw how they played the rest of the year not the same team that suited up vs Ole Miss that night. One needs to remember Saban brought Bama back after their disaster years. If all this had happened under the 2 prior coaches I wouldn't be defending the school or the coaches; but Freeze is a different story.

[LeakyD]

David Brandt was the only one to ask a legitimate question, but it was great. He said something like "Hugh, you've been quick to spin the story most of the time and this time you've been silent." Then he asked about paying players.

[TrapGame]

Poor gal, living life with a pair of rose colored glasses.

Deborah 5 minutes ago
You people are stupid. Coach Freeze is one of the most ethical men in coaching.

http://underachievingdomesticgoddess.blogspot.com/


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/20/df/23/20df232b8535899257e4b7826dd3a63a.jpg


http://cdn2.everyjoe.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/tyson-laugh.gif

[jbjones]

Poor gal, living life with a pair of rose colored glasses.

Deborah 5 minutes ago
You people are stupid. Coach Freeze is one of the most ethical men in coaching. I would never say Tunsil wouldn't take money from someone but I will say it wouldn't be the coaching staff; Freeze would have them out the door in a heartbeat.


Haha! Hell yeah, pass that shit this way...my glaucoma could use some relief of that magnitude.

[Mjoelner34]

Haha! Hell yeah, pass that shit this way...my glaucoma could use some relief of that magnitude.

No shit. We know who Tunsil passed the gas mask to now.

[gravedigger]

I'm amazed he got on the call. I think he is a raging moron, but there isn't much he can do at this point. I wish SI or ESPN turns up something meaty here soon just to keep the pressure up.

Isnt much he can do? How about act like the man he says he is? How about be consistent with what has been said already? How about saying the kid didnt do anything wrong is that is the case? How about just taking responsibility for the position he is in?

He could have done plenty. He is just too much of a coward to stand up for what he knows is right.

And the media like sallee who know they backed this trainwreck are trying to act like rebecca from donnybrook farm. They are as bought and paid for as a three dollar street walker.

Either the old mississippi corruption ends or it continues.

Ncaa has the choice.

[RocketDawg]

Freeze: We've had some adversity around our place since draft night. Admin working to reach a resolution. I'm told we made a lot of progress

Freeze: Our admin will work with all the parties to reach a conclusion as soon as possible, which we hope comes quickly.

(Asked by someone about paying players) Freeze: Again, I'm not in the process of the fact-finding process. I know our admin is working and i'm told they made a lot of progress.

Freeze: I think it depends on what the facts reveal. Ross and I haven't discussed next step. Get facts first.

Sounds like what many of us have speculated, the administration has taken the lead role over the athletic department and negotiations are being held about who and/or how many heads will roll.

If he's telling the truth, it sounds like he's not even in the loop any more. Maybe the administration is assuming he's guilty. Or maybe they're being cautious about letting the fox investigate the henhouse. If he's been taken out of the decision-making process, he must be leading an agonizing life these days.

[gravedigger]

If he's telling the truth, it sounds like he's not even in the loop any more. Maybe the administration is assuming he's guilty. Or maybe they're being cautious about letting the fox investigate the henhouse. If he's been taken out of the decision-making process, he must be leading an agonizing life these days.

He was in the decision making process last spring and summer he is lying. How can roundsaville and porter and the ding dong from tupelo know?

This is just bald faced lying.

[RocketDawg]

Imagine the irony if one of the NCAA investigators was named Ward.

That would be priceless. And what if his wife was named June?

[Bucky Dog]

Word is Freeze is out of the loop completely and getting desperate. Trying to get some assistants to take the fall and they ain't having it!

[RocketDawg]

He was in the decision making process last spring and summer he is lying. How can roundsaville and porter and the ding dong from tupelo know?

This is just bald faced lying.

I meant taken out of the loop since last Thursday night. He may actually not know what's going on now with the "internal investigation" because they've cut him out. I have a feeling there is some ill will between Bjork and Freeze right now ... and I somehow think Bjork may not have really known what was going on. I suppose we'll find out fairly soon though.

[KB549]

By "internal investiigation", do you mean clicking the delete button, shredding documents, and forging new ones? Because if you believe they are going to hang themselves, I have some beachfront property in Indianapolis to sell you.

[Liverpooldawg]

If he's telling the truth, it sounds like he's not even in the loop any more. Maybe the administration is assuming he's guilty. Or maybe they're being cautious about letting the fox investigate the henhouse. If he's been taken out of the decision-making process, he must be leading an agonizing life these days.

I think you might be right. If that is the case it would suck to be him right now. If he is out of the loop he may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but he HAS to know what that would mean.

[defiantdog]

The admin has taken the lead role in this investigation since the beginning

[RocketDawg]

By "internal investiigation", do you mean clicking the delete button, shredding documents, and forging new ones? Because if you believe they are going to hang themselves, I have some beachfront property in Indianapolis to sell you.

Well, I was just using their words ("internal investigation"), but I'm sure there are people at UMiss right now looking into the scandal who are not directly involved in the football program. Could be the only person "investigating" who does have a direct involvement is Bjork himself. It's in the University's best interest to minimize impact to the school, of course, but I'm not sure that outsiders (meaning those not directly involved with athletics) are literally destroying evidence. But it's not hard to believe that some football coaches might have been. I think what they're doing is actually trying to find out exactly what's going on, who started it, who continued it, and who to fire when it's all said and done. I suspect they're trying to salvage all the positive image that the school might have, and minimize the negative. Most likely a few heads in the athletic department will roll. Whether it's Bjork and/or Frieeze, or lower persons, remains to be seen. I don't think Freeze is naive enough to believe he's that great a recruiter based strictly on his persona, so he must have been involved.

[AlmostPositive]

Ole Miss fans seem to believe that Freeze recruits well because he's really "good at building relationships with the young men." I have seen them say that a dozen times. I guess childish delusion is better than admitting your school is thoroughly corrupt.

[KB549]

I'm with ya. I forgot the ****. The administration knew what was going on. Maybe. They may be so full of themselves that they think all these 5 stars just up and decided to come there because it is the most wonderful place on earth. If so, they have no business running a kindergarten class, much less a university.

The problem is they don't know what to do. They have lifted Freeze upon a pedestal and proclaimed him to be the second coming. If they fire him, they have to admit they were wrong. :::GASP::: If they keep him, they worsen their chances of getting body slammed by the NCAA for not being proactive. Image. Pride.

This is high stakes poker. They can keep bluffing and hope the NCAA is bluffing, too. They're all in.

[HailState39110]

I just read Freeze's statement and it went something like this :

"facts , facts , gather facts ... Fact finding. I trust our adminstration in gathering facts . I'm shocked .. Facts.. I know nothing . We will base our findings on facts . Praise Jesus . We will continue to investigate and get the right fact . Recruits love our beautiful campus. Amen "