Dak got a DUI!!

[maroonwhitedawg3ddd]

Smh.. Cotton district driving a 2016 escalade... 17ed his draft status...

[Big4Dawg]

Per Bonner Twitter. Not good. Not good at all

[Steakonastick]

Well Clairon ledger just broke what I heard at the baseball game. That's gonna be an expensive mistake.

[BurgDawg]

Don't drink and drive fellas.... I actually found out about this around 8a this morning but wasn't sure it was true...http://on.thec-l.com/1pn42Uo

[Steakonastick]

Yup I heard at the baseball game. Surprised it took this long to break. Gonna be a very costly mistake.

[Coach34]

yeah- gonna cost him a round most probably

[msstate7]

yeah- gonna cost him a round most probably

Although they're completely different players, nfl gm's are probably leary of qb's that drink after manziel

[Dawg61]

yeah- gonna cost him a round most probably

Doubt it. Not this late in the process. Teams are desperate for QBs and Dak is the 3rd or 4th one on the board. He'll still go 2nd round.

[I seen it dawg]

Dumbass. He just decreased the number of teams that will draft him.

[djaymsu5]

Now every team is going to think he is just putting up a front when he portrays to be a God child. This sucks! Damnit DAK you couldn't get anybody to come pick you up

[cheewgumm]

Hard to believe he made such a dumb mistake.

[starkvegasdawg]

Dumbass. He just decreased the number of teams that will draft him.

Dallas looking for a QB?

[DancingRabbit]

Doubt it. Not this late in the process. Teams are desperate for QBs and Dak is the 3rd or 4th one on the board. He'll still go 2nd round.

Unfortunately, I'm afraid you're wrong. Hope you're right though.

"Intangibles" is what put Dak in the 2nd-3rd, instead of 3rd-4th-5th.

Dak should already have a "Turtle" handling his driving when he's going out.

[Dawg61]

Can we let the whole story come out before we convict him of a DUI?

[nsvltndog]

Got to give the Clarion Ledger credit, this is now the top story on their website - much more important than 1000's of state residents currently losing their homes to flooding.

[Political Hack]

Absolutely a boneheaded move. Hope he learns from it.

[Political Hack]

Got to give the Clarion Ledger credit, this is now the top story on their website - much more important than 1000's of state residents currently losing their homes to flooding.

Or the 3+ year NCAA investigation in Oxford.

[TheRef]

It's been confirmed by Starkville Daily News by calling SPD Chief. He was arrested and charged with a DUI this morning near the Cotton District.

[ShotgunDawg]

Meh, Dak can't make those mistakes, but teams make decisions by getting to know the player, not by a random DUI.

The truth is that the scouts that truly know Dak are excited about this because they now think they can get him a round later.

It's not right, but my guess is that everyone on this board has driven under the influence before and so have the scouts and GMs. Good teams don't make political draft pics. They do their research and take who they feel can help them the most.

[Bmydawg]

Nice job by SPD. Give him a pass and drive him home for all the good he has done. Freakin Barney Fifes on SPD. Dak did indeed screw up but the SPD should have covered this crap up once for all the good he has done for our school. Pisses me off!!

[TheRef]

Nice job by SPD. Give him a pass and drive him home for all the good he has done. Freakin Barney Fifes on SPD. Dak did indeed screw up but the SPD should have covered this crap up once for all the good he has done for our school. Pisses me off!!

Nope...can't fault cops on this one...take that argument elsewhere.

[civildawg]

Wow I honestly can't believe you typed that out. If you drive drunk and get caught, I don't care if your mother Teresa, you should be charged

[Dawgface]

One bad move erased all the good leadership qualities he supposedly had. Costly night out.

[ShotgunDawg]

One bad move erased all the good leadership qualities he supposedly had. Costly night out.

It only erased them for idiots.

Driving drunk is terrible but it's only a problem if you have a drinking problem. Manziel's problem was a drinking problem not a matter if he got a DUI or not.

[DancingRabbit]

Can we let the whole story come out before we convict him of a DUI?

If the Starkville PD released this to the CL he's already convicted in the media perception arena.

SPD cost Smoot some big money in March 2001 before the draft. Smoot attends a house party, cops come in, roach found in a garbage can and Fred's the one arrested. SPD dropped the charges 3 weeks later but the 1st rounder became a 2nd rounder. Back then the SPD chief was an OM guy.

But Dak's gotta be smarter than that.

[BeardoMSU]

If the Starkville PD released this to the CL he's already convicted in the media perception arena.

SPD cost Smoot some big money in March 2001 before the draft. Smoot attends a house party, cops come in, roach found in a garbage can and Fred's the one arrested. SPD dropped the charges 3 weeks later but the 1st rounder became a 2nd rounder. Back then the SPD chief was an OM guy.

But Dak's gotta be smarter than that.

Yup. This shat is crazy. Just like our guys getting arrested by the sheriff dept for having beer in a dry ****ing county.

[starkvegasdawg]

Did the CL say this was actually good news for Dak?***

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

Hate it for Dak and he should have been smarter. I can remember numerous times I should have been smarter too, but wasn't. I was never caught when drinking while driving, but I never had as much on the line as Dak either. I was lucky. I never condemn a kid for this because I know how many times it could have been me. I just hope they learn from it and hopefully the next guys coming up (Ross, etc.) learns from it.

[BeardoMSU]

Did the CL say this was actually good news for Dak?***

Ha, winner.

[Bmydawg]

Yeah. None of us have ever driven a tad over the limit. I was just saying, that all the revenue he has generated for Starkville should have told Barney to say. Hey pal, gonna give you one free pass and I will get you home. If we see you out again tonite or ever again driving drunk, you are toast. Quite frankly, I can't believe that MSU doesn't have a policy in place withSPD to cover this crap up internally and be handled by the coaching staff.Dak screwed up, but his character leading up to this unfortunate incident should have been considered. Nice job Barney. Go shine your f ing bullet

[BeardoMSU]

Hate it for Dak and he should have been smarter. I can remember numerous times I should have been smarter too, but wasn't. I was never caught when drinking while driving, but I never had as much on the line as Dak either. I was lucky. I never condemn a kid for this because I know how many times it could have been me. I just hope they learn from it and hopefully the next guys coming up (Ross, etc.) learns from it.
same here, dude. It's a total miracle I never crashed and hurt some one else, let alone gotten a dui, back in the day. Never again though. Dak should have had a driver.

[Coach34]

The SPD is in no way to blame. They just did their job. Dakota has to be smarter and not give Turtle any nights off now that he is NFL-bound. Its a mistake he will hopefully learn from

[DudyDawg]

It only erased them for idiots.

Driving drunk is terrible but it's only a problem if you have a drinking problem. Manziel's problem was a drinking problem not a matter if he got a DUI or not.

Not daks first alcohol related incident either

[Liverpooldawg]

It only erased them for idiots.

Driving drunk is terrible but it's only a problem if you have a drinking problem. Manziel's problem was a drinking problem not a matter if he got a DUI or not.

Nope DUI is a serious crime. Driving while drunk doesn't only affect you, it has the potential to kill others. I wouldn't draft him now if I was a GM.

[Liverpooldawg]

Hate it for Dak and he should have been smarter. I can remember numerous times I should have been smarter too, but wasn't. I was never caught when drinking while driving, but I never had as much on the line as Dak either. I was lucky. I never condemn a kid for this because I know how many times it could have been me. I just hope they learn from it and hopefully the next guys coming up (Ross, etc.) learns from it.

What if he had killed someone?

[BoomBoom]

The SPD is in no way to blame. They just did their job. Dakota has to be smarter and not give Turtle any nights off now that he is NFL-bound. Its a mistake he will hopefully learn from

assuming he actually was drunk. last time i drove back to the Cotton District at 1am on a weekend, i got pulled over for touching the line on my right as i made a hard right turn off old 182. then was told i blew a .07 when all i'd had was 2 Coors Lights. time before that i was pulled over for no seat belt. still got the ticket after i blew solid. that area is worse than Gordo or Reform at that time of night on a weekend.

[Liverpooldawg]

Wow I honestly can't believe you typed that out. If you drive drunk and get caught, I don't care if your mother Teresa, you should be charged

Yep, and I'm not a teetotaler.

[Dawg61]

Yeah. None of us have ever driven a tad over the limit. I was just saying, that all the revenue he has generated for Starkville should have told Barney to say. Hey pal, gonna give you one free pass and I will get you home. If we see you out again tonite or ever again driving drunk, you are toast. Quite frankly, I can't believe that MSU doesn't have a policy in place withSPD to cover this crap up internally and be handled by the coaching staff.Dak screwed up, but his character leading up to this unfortunate incident should have been considered. Nice job Barney. Go shine your f ing bullet

Unless Dak blew an absurd amount I agree with Bmydawg. Dak brought Starkville an extra couple mill last year alone. SPD hit the jackpot for DUI arrests while MSU's football team was #1 in the country. Gotta think they've hit way over their quota of DUIs the last two years. They should of let this one get an escort home.

[Tbonewannabe]

In the late 90s & early 00s Starkville cops hated MSU students.

[fccee1]

Smh.. Cotton district driving a 2016 escalade... 17ed his draft status...
There but by the grace of God go I

[blacklistedbully]

Nope DUI is a serious crime. Driving while drunk doesn't only affect you, it has the potential to kill others. I wouldn't draft him now if I was a GM.

If you were a GM you wouldn't be able to field a team. Good Lord, it's a mistake, one that a lot of people make. Thank God nobody was hurt, and thank God the NFL isn't full of people who won't take a guy because he made ONE MISTAKE.

Seriously, if you were the GM of my team, I'd find another team to pull for.

[Dawg61]

I wouldn't draft him now if I was a GM.

It must be challenging for you to continuously type increasingly stupid posts. Just when I think you've peaked you reach back and go a little more. You're talented.

[BeardoMSU]

assuming he actually was drunk. last time i drove back to the Cotton District at 1am on a weekend, i got pulled over for touching the line on my right as i made a hard right turn off old 182. then was told i blew a .07 when all i'd had was 2 Coors Lights. time before that i was pulled over for no seat belt. still got the ticket after i blew solid. that area is worse than Gordo or Reform at that time of night on a weekend.

This is not uncommon with SPD, sadly, and not just in the CD.

[blacklistedbully]

It must be challenging for you to continuously type increasingly stupid posts. Just when I think you've peaked you reach back and go a little more. You're talented.

Hate to say I agree with you, but...

[Bmydawg]

Thanks for the support 61. There are ways to make a point without endangering a fine young mans future. I really do applaud law enforcement fo all they do, but sometimes you have to look at the total picture and make a call that even though it might not be completely legal, it is the right call. Btw. Any chance that Barney has ties to AJ Browns family?? Now that's one that should have a hard time driving in Starkville

[Liverpooldawg]

If you were a GM you wouldn't be able to field a team. Good Lord, it's a mistake, one that a lot of people make. Thank God nobody was hurt, and thank God the NFL isn't full of people who won't take a guy because he made ONE MISTAKE.

Seriously, if you were the GM of my team, I'd find another team to pull for.

And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?

[MafiaDawg]

But he didn't

[MSUDeltadawg1971]

First let me say what an idiot for drinking and driving. Now he needs to be on the phone and get Mitchell Creel out of Greenville, go to court and beat it. Mitchell's unreal at beating DUI's. That will at least keep it off his record. Maybe he can tell the GM's see, I wasn't guilty.

[BeardoMSU]

For those of you talking about GM's no longer looking upon Dak in good graces, remember, this is the same league that continues to employ Greg Hardy... And Dak is an Apple to his Orange.

Actually, Dak isn't even a food group**

[DancingRabbit]

The SPD is in no way to blame. They just did their job. Dakota has to be smarter and not give Turtle any nights off now that he is NFL-bound. Its a mistake he will hopefully learn from

We hope that's the case. I'm sure it is most of the time.

But I sat on a jury that found a DUI arrest not guilty because of the cop's approach. First, the cop was hanging out watching folks leaving a bar. Sounds OK but it's not an approved police practice. Next, he says he pulled the guy over for weaving "between the lines". The video showed the car move a little from side to side over a stretch but never got near the center line or the side line. Wasn't weaving.

Then after he pulled the guy over and started on the field sobriety tests, the guy did fine. I think the guy tested slightly over the limit back at the station, but as a jury we couldn't see justification for ever pulling the guy over in the first place.

[ShotgunDawg]

Some of you are having real trouble separating the severity and seriousness of a DUI, from draft status.

1. DUIs are serious and inexcusable. End of story. SPD did their job. Period.

2. Does this mean Dak is a bad person, has a problem, and not capable of running a football team? Absolutely not.

3. Does this mean Dak's draft status will fall? It certainly won't help, but scouts and coaches know Dak better than us. To them, it just may be an unfortunate incident but not indicative of the player's character.

4. Does this make him riskier? Yes. Hard to say how much.

Point, any team making a decision off of this DUI is behind because the point is to know the player. You make decision off of knowing the player. Not by politics

[Saltydog]

nt

[Bmydawg]

All you bleeding hearts. On here. He didn't hit or kill anyone. Once stopped the SPD could have said, hey pal. We are going to get you home this one time. If this happens again you are toast!! Instead, I am sure they treated him as if he had killed someone. Common sense and handling things in a rational way have left our society. I am confident now that some of you would actually vote for Hilary or Bernie?? If you are in that contingent then you need way more help than Dak

[Liverpooldawg]

But he didn't

By the Grace of God.

[Commercecomet24]

He's a young un who made a mistake. The NFL is full of people who do way worse than get dui's. Heck my brother in law works for Baldwin County Sherrifs dept and he's gotten more than one NFL player for dui. I don't drink and wished that nobody would get in a car after they drank. I don't condone what he did and there will be consequences for him but This is not a pattern of behavior for Dak and until he proves me wrong I'm in his corner.

[ShotgunDawg]

And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?

Your having trouble hashing this out. DUI is terrible but doesn't mean you are a bad guy. It only means you made a mistake.

The result of Dak hitting or not hitting someone while driving under the influence, has nothing to do with what type of person he is.

Let me ask this, would you not draft someone that hit someone while texting and driving? What's the difference? Texting and driving is dumb but isn't indicative of the character, leadership, and intelligence of the person. It's just a dumb, unacceptable mistake.

[Liverpooldawg]

We hope that's the case. I'm sure it is most of the time.

But I sat on a jury that found a DUI arrest not guilty because of the cop's approach. First, the cop was hanging out watching folks leaving a bar. Sounds OK but it's not an approved police practice. Next, he says he pulled the guy over for weaving "between the lines". The video showed the car move a little from side to side over a stretch but never got near the center line or the side line. Wasn't weaving.

Then after he pulled the guy over and started on the field sobriety tests, the guy did fine. I think the guy tested slightly over the limit back at the station, but as a jury we couldn't see justification for ever pulling the guy over in the first place.

So YOU let a guy that was legally over the limit get away scot free? WOW.

[BeardoMSU]

So YOU let a guy that was legally over the limit get away scot free? WOW.

How bout the guys we entrust to enforce the law actually be responsible to know the law, and follow the law themselves..

I know, crazy concept**

[Liverpooldawg]

Your having trouble hashing this out. DUI is terrible but doing mean you are a bad guy. It only means you made a mistake.

The result has of Dak hitting or not hitting someone while driving under the influence, has nothing to do with what type of person he is.

Let me ask this, would you not draft someone that hit someone while texting and driving? What's the difference? Texting and driving is dumb but isn't indicative of the character, leadership, and intelligence of the person. It's just a dumb, unacceptable mistake.

There is no difference. It's a comment on judgement and decision making. It's also a BIG comment on character. It's going to hurt Dak BAD because those things were Dak's biggest pluses in the draft. Somebody will still draft him, but it cost him some money, as it should. He is very lucky it didn't cost him or worse, someone else, a lot more. Stop making excuses like the Rebs do.

[blacklistedbully]

And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?

If Dak had hit and killed my child, I'd be heart-broken. But knowing what kind of young man Dak has shown himself to be, I'd still call it a mistake. A tragic mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.

And I'd bet everything I own that young man would be as torn up about it as I would. I'd mourn my child and I'd mourn for Dak as well, knowing he, too,would have to live with the consequences of his actions.

Sometimes good people make bad decisions, and sometimes those bad decisions end in tragedy. That doesn't make them bad people.

You are vastly overreacting and are coming across as an intolerant priss with her panties in a wad. For all the tremendous good Dak has done, for all the fine examples he has set in his 4 years at MSU, you are ready to throw him under the bus for one mistake.

I'm quite sure I'd take Dak every day of the week and twice on Sundays over you for the Model Citizen award.

[Liverpooldawg]

How bout the guys we entrust to enforce the law actually be responsible to know the law, and follow the law themselves..

I know, crazy concept**

So you believe a guy that tested over the limit deserves no punishment? OK. For the record see my post in the outdoor weekend thread.

[bluelightstar]

It's a mistake -- it's a costly one, but it's a mistake nonetheless. As long as he isn't making a habit of it, that should be that. "I wouldn't draft him because of it" is just damn stupid.

[Coach34]

And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?

Less than 1% of people that drink and drive hit someone. Calm down Francis

[Coach34]

There is no difference. It's a comment on judgement and decision making. It's also a BIG comment on character. It's going to hurt Dak BAD because those things were Dak's biggest pluses in the draft. Somebody will still draft him, but it cost him some money, as it should. He is very lucky it didn't cost him or worse, someone else, a lot more. Stop making excuses like the Rebs do.

he will drop a round at the most- its not going to hurt him "BAD"

[BeardoMSU]

So you believe a guy that tested over the limit deserves no punishment? OK. For the record see my post in the outdoor weekend thread.

No, not if he was illegally detained. We have laws for a reason. Entrapment is not "cops doing their jobs". As mentioned several times this thread, SPD is known for pulling this kind of stuff, and this doesn't just concern Dak; I'd feel the same for any Joe Blow.

[Liverpooldawg]

If Dak had hit and killed my child, I'd be heart-broken. But knowing what kind of young man Dak has shown himself to be, I'd still call it a mistake. A tragic mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.

And I'd bet everything I own that young man would be as torn up about it as I would. I'd mourn my child and I'd mourn for Dak as well, knowing he, too,would have to live with the consequences of his actions.

Sometimes good people make bad decisions, and sometimes those bad decisions end in tragedy. That doesn't make them bad people.

You are vastly overreacting and are coming across as an intolerant priss with her panties in a wad. For all the tremendous good Dak has done, for all the fine examples he has set in his 4 years at MSU, you are ready to throw him under the bus for one mistake.

I'm quite sure I'd take Dak every day of the week and twice on Sundays over you for the Model Citizen award.
http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?41675-Weekend-Cooking-amp-Drinking-Thread-Rainy-Edition

I haven't been out driving though. He threw himself under the bus by drinking and then driving. It won't end his career. Thank goodness for him the cop did his job and possibly kept that from happening. .

[Commercecomet24]

If character flaws kept GMs from drafting people the NFL wouldn't exist.

[Liverpooldawg]

No.
What if the guy had had a wreck and killed someone and tested slightly over the limit? Just an accident?

[bluelightstar]

What if the guy had had a wreck and killed someone and tested slightly over the limit? Just an accident?

But he didn't.

[Bothrops]

Alright, first off, who were the dickheads that let Dak Prescott drive off from a ****ing bar, especially in the Cotton District. They should have their asses kicked. Secondly, why would any STARKVILLE cop give Dak a mother****ing dui? Two things, he was driving erratic and was visibly drunk driving--which meant the cocksuckers..or somebody at the bar knew he was drinking...and let him drive off anyway. Or, the arresting officer obviously doesn't give a **** about the university that resides in the town that he serves. This is bullshit. I'll bet he was within a mile from his destination. Have someone pick him up!

[Liverpooldawg]

Less than 1% of people that drink and drive hit someone. Calm down Francis

That's a great comfort to the victims of the 1% I'm sure.

[OSCAR]

I think the interested NFL teams will interview him again. They will vet this situation and dig into everything they had previously given him the benefit of the doubt on. If I'm a GM, i want to ask more questions now about some of the issues he had that involved drinking while in school where he was the victim(spring break, etc.). That being said, i think he will be able to answer those questions to their satisfaction and this will not hurt him too bad unless when the nfl digs and they see something they don't like, which i don't see happening. He made a awful mistake, one many fine men have made and learned from. I am just thankful no one was hurt.

[blacklistedbully]

So YOU let a guy that was legally over the limit get away scot free? WOW.

HO LEE SHIT! Are you for real?? I know your type. You're the type that clamors to be the one to cast the first stone.

Truth - were you the momma's boy who would tattletale on anyone and everyone who did anything wrong, taking great satisfaction in getting someone in trouble?

Sanctimonious much?

[Liverpooldawg]

But he didn't.

So no such crime as attempted murder then?

[BeardoMSU]

What if the guy had had a wreck and killed someone and tested slightly over the limit? Just an accident?

Then that wouldn't be entrapment. He would have been arrested at the scene.

[DancingRabbit]

So YOU let a guy that was legally over the limit get away scot free? WOW.

He got arrested, had to sit in jail, probably got his license suspended and probably paid $2-5000 in attorney fees because a cop saw him driving away from a bar. I don't call that scot free.

[bluelightstar]

So no such crime as attempted murder then?

Attempted murder is a specific intent crime.

[Liverpooldawg]

HO LEE SHIT! Are you for real?? I know your type. You're the type that clamors to be the one to cast the first stone.

Truth - were you the momma's boy who would tattletale on anyone and everyone who did anything wrong, taking great satisfaction in getting someone in trouble?

Sanctimonious much?

Nope. I just don't have much if any tolerance for drinking and driving. I DO drink. There are some things you just don't do. That's one of them. If you do it and get caught you should have to pay the price. Our laws in the US are WAY to soft on this.

[BeardoMSU]

So no such crime as attempted murder then?

Christ, dude.


Are you driving driving while drinking right now? And posting on ED no less...***

[Liverpooldawg]

Attempted murder is a specific intent crime.

So is drinking and driving.

[Liverpooldawg]

Christ, dude.


Are you driving driving while drinking right now? And posting on ED no less...***

Drinking and posting, yes. Driving, no. Sounds like you might be as well! LOL!

[Bmydawg]

Go blow your partner liver. Don't be such a Nancy

[BeardoMSU]

Drinking and posting, yes. Driving, no.

Ha, fair enough.

[DancingRabbit]

So you believe a guy that tested over the limit deserves no punishment? OK. For the record see my post in the outdoor weekend thread.

Yeah, **** the Constitution. Let's put a government camera in your ****in bedroom to make sure you're doing it right.

[BeardoMSU]

Yeah, **** the Constitution. Let's put a government camera in your ****in bedroom to make sure you're doing it right.

Ya know, considering how antiquated MS is with its sexual acceptance, I'd be willing to bet there are still laws on the books against all things not "missionary style".

[Dawg61]

Any chance that Barney has ties to AJ Browns family?? Now that's one that should have a hard time driving in Starkville

Or does Barney have ties to Old Misses? Bet someone would pay a pretty penny to have some negative attention turned on MSU for a bit and there's almost no better target than Dak besides Mullen. Anyone else remember the SPD cop that planted a shit ton of drugs on the frat boy that had rejected him a couple years earlier? It is very possible we haven't heard the whole story here yet.

[Liverpooldawg]

Yeah, **** the Constitution. Let's put a government camera in your ****in bedroom to make sure you're doing it right.

I'm not in a vehicle driving down the road that other people are traveling on in my bedroom. If I'm not doing it right it ain't going to affect anyone outside that bedroom. It has been tested repeatedly in court. You do NOT have a constitutional right to get behind the wheel while drunk. If you want to get hammered by all means have at it. Just don't drive while you are there.

[TheRef]

Christ, guys...calm the 17 down.

[DancingRabbit]

Nope. I just don't have much if any tolerance for drinking and driving. I DO drink. There are some things you just don't do. That's one of them. If you do it and get caught you should have to pay the price. Our laws in the US are WAY to soft on this.

Many of us know someone hurt by a drunk driver, so I know why many have strong opinions. Somewhat fortunately for me, no one close to me was a victim, except for some of my friends that were injured while drunk during my college days. My room-mate wrecked while drunk on dead man's curve near Skuna bottom between Gore Springs and Coffeeville. He didn't hurt anybody else but he went through his wind shield. His face was one big scab.

BUT, many of the statistics you see put out by MADD are rigged. If you're sober and you wreck and kill a drunk guy, that goes in the books as a drunk driving fatality. A couple of years ago a good friend of mine in Dallas was T-boned at an intersection. Not his fault. He was given a DUI because some bitch was probably texting her girl friend.

[Dawg61]

Our laws in the US are WAY to soft on this.

Bull****ing shit our laws are too soft now. They USED to be too soft when your generation was in college and entering young adulthood but just like everything else y'all couldn't ****ing control yourselves and now it's my generation and the one below us that gets to suffer the consequences of growing up in a society with much stricter laws and enforcement. In 1980 a college student was about a million times less likely to get a DUI than they are today. I'm not condoning drinking and driving I just don't really appreciate someone from your generation thumbing their nose at everyone else about it.

[Coach34]

Nope. I just don't have much if any tolerance for drinking and driving. I DO drink. There are some things you just don't do. That's one of them. If you do it and get caught you should have to pay the price. Our laws in the US are WAY to soft on this.


disagree...We got to get home. If we got tougher on D&D- then bars would close all over the US

[Bothrops]

Bull****ing shit our laws are too soft now. They USED to be too soft when your generation was in college and entering young adulthood but just like everything else y'all couldn't ****ing control yourselves and now it's my generation and the one below us that gets to suffer the consequences of growing up in a society with much stricter laws and enforcement. In 1980 a college student was about a million times less likely to get a DUI than they are today. I'm not condoning drinking and driving I just don't really appreciate someone from your generation thumbing their nose at everyone else about it.

True, back in the good 'ol days a cop would call somebody to come pick you up, which was embarrassing enough. That is, if you weren't visibly intoxicated and could stand up straight. But now cops receive bonuses into their pensions for DUI arrests. Plus, it's a way for cities to get more tax revenue. But then there will always be people that get drunk, drive and kill people.

[LC Dawg]

Dak screwed up. It's his fault. His NFL career will be based on whether or not he can help a team win games. The main thing that was affected is his legacy at MSU. A lot of people looked at Dak as if he was different from most players/students. I still feel like the good he did for so many, especially kids, should outweigh his mistakes but he definitely damaged his legacy.

[Beaver]

There are ways to make a point without endangering a fine young mans future. I really do applaud law enforcement fo all they do, but sometimes you have to look at the total picture and make a call that even though it might not be completely legal, it is the right call.

Yikes...

What 'point' were they supposed to make? This wasn't an innocent mistake. You don't give anyone a pass if they are driving drunk. Actually, it would be more endangering to Dak's future if he thinks he's above the law and can get away with driving drunk. Dak is leaving Starkville in 2 months for the NFL, and I hope he understands that no matter where he is, he needs to be smart and surround himself with people that will look out for him.

Dak an incredible leader, and I bet if the roles were reversed, he'd arrest the star athlete instead of giving him a free pass.

[Dawg61]

Yikes...

What 'point' were they supposed to make? This wasn't an innocent mistake. You don't give anyone a pass if they are driving drunk. Actually, it would be more endangering to Dak's future if he thinks he's above the law and can get away with driving drunk. Dak is leaving Starkville in 2 months for the NFL, and I hope he understands that no matter where he is, he needs to be smart and surround himself with people that will look out for him.

Dak an incredible leader, and I bet if the roles were reversed, he'd arrest the star athlete instead of giving him a free pass.

There's a huge difference between driving under the influence (DUI) and driving while intoxicated (DWI). Let's see what he blew first before saying he was driving drunk.

[dawgday166]

I'm thinking now we should outlaw carrying a gun in a vehicle because someone got killed in a drive-by shooting.

[dawgday166]

It don't take much alcohol to blow .08. Not sure what he blew ... just saying.

[dawgday166]

Quote Originally Posted by bluelightstar View Post
Attempted murder is a specific intent crime.

So is drinking and driving.

Say whaaaatt????

[dawgday166]

Yeah, **** the Constitution. Let's put a government camera in your ****in bedroom to make sure you're doing it right.

What's this here "Constitution" you talking about??

[dawgday166]

delete

[dawgday166]

Bull****ing shit our laws are too soft now. They USED to be too soft when your generation was in college and entering young adulthood but just like everything else y'all couldn't ****ing control yourselves and now it's my generation and the one below us that gets to suffer the consequences of growing up in a society with much stricter laws and enforcement. In 1980 a college student was about a million times less likely to get a DUI than they are today. I'm not condoning drinking and driving I just don't really appreciate someone from your generation thumbing their nose at everyone else about it.

Sorry bout that dude, I sympathize with you on this one. Old codgers tend to forget all the stupid shit they did that probably should've gotten them either thrown under the jail or killed. I am one, but I haven't forgotten. My life is littered with mistakes. I'm just glad to be on a board now where there are a significant number of perfect old codgers that never made mistakes.

[Maroonthirteen]

It absolutely sucks being a State fan.

That's my thoughts on this. Sucks.

[Dawg61]

Sorry bout that dude, I sympathize with you on this one. Old codgers tend to forget all the stupid shit they did that probably should've gotten them either thrown under the jail or killed. I am one, but I haven't forgotten. My life is littered with mistakes. I'm just glad to be on a board now where there are a significant number of perfect old codgers that never made mistakes.

Lol thanks your post is gold

[grinnindawg]

This is so stupid on so many levels.

First, Dak just instructed any team looking at him he's more likely to be Johnny M. than Russell W.
May not be true, but it now can be inferred from his actions.
It likely cost him $100ks if not $1Ms.

Second, He's the face of the university at the moment.
He could've called dozens of people to drive him home, including university president.

Third, while I agree with Barkley that athletes shouldn't be roll models, for some kids they are.
Of all those 8 to 12 year olds running around in 15 jerseys, some of them are now more likely to engage in this idiotic behavior.

For all you idiots saying the SPD should've given him a pass, have you ever had a loved one affected by a dui?
It's a crime for a reason.

[Schultzy]

The .08 threshold is way too low... We have criminalized going out to eat and having a glass of wine these days. It's only the people driving at 1.3 or more that should get popped.

[msudawg1200]

All you bleeding hearts. On here. He didn't hit or kill anyone. Once stopped the SPD could have said, hey pal. We are going to get you home this one time. If this happens again you are toast!! Instead, I am sure they treated him as if he had killed someone. Common sense and handling things in a rational way have left our society. I am confident now that some of you would actually vote for Hilary or Bernie?? If you are in that contingent then you need way more help than Dak

I think you 'd see thing a little different if you have had a family member killed by a drunk driver. If he did it he should have been arrested and punished.

[Reason2succeed]

Jeez, you guys haven't learned how to spin a story at all. You would think that by watching OM and the CL spin stories so much that y'all would learn something. Let me show you how it's done:

"Dak getting a DUI is a good thing. Just last week the Cleveland Browns scouts were all over him. Of course Dak smiles and says all the right things to them but everyone knows that if there is one team he does NOT want to be drafted by it is the Browns.

So afterwards Dak talks to his agents who talks to a few teams that assure him that they are interested and there is nothing that would change that. So Dak does the one thing that would disqualify the Cleveland Browns from drafting Dak: getting a DUI. I'm sure the SPD were probably in on it too. After the Manziel fiasco the Browns cannot draft another SEC QB that seemingly likes to drink. Problem averted."

This is exactly how OM and the CL would spin this story if it were Eli or Chad Kelly. Get with the program guys.

[Dawg61]

The .08 threshold is way too low... We have criminalized going out to eat and having a glass of wine these days. It's only the people driving at 1.3 or more that should get popped.

Two drink max and you'll be fine. Want more than two drinks don't drive. Call Uber, a taxi or a friend BEFORE you go out. That's where people make the mistake. They don't spend money when they are sober to get them to the bar without their vehicle. Then they drink too much and lose their discipline to not just drive their own vehicle home. If your car isn't with you you can't possibly drive it home. Yea it sucks paying $40 on Uber to and from but it's way better than getting a DUI. Also don't be on the road after midnight. You're a fish swimming in a pool full of sharks at that time of night. All the cops out are looking to bust everyone for DUIs. If you've had more than two and you're driving after midnight you're just asking to get a DUI. Gotta be smart before even leaving the house.

[I seen it dawg]

Great thread.

[I seen it dawg]

Dak is trying to handle all of this by himself. He's lost his mom and he's the only adult he has. Why hasn't Mullen found him a mentor of some kind to look out for him , a former player or something. Shit help the guy navigate all he's had. To do solo.

[Coach34]

The .08 threshold is way too low... We have criminalized going out to eat and having a glass of wine these days. It's only the people driving at 1.3 or more that should get popped.

Totally agree.

We sell alcohol at damn near every restaurant in the US. We sell it in quick stores. Well sell it in grocery stores. We have alcohol meeting places called bars for people to meet up and drink. Drinking and driving is never going away. We support it too much

[JohnnyQuid]

dak has to be smarter but ******* how terrible is spd. some moron who never done shit thinks he's some big dick - GOT DAK BAWS. OH YEAAAA.

die scrub

[mic]

Alright, first off, who were the dickheads that let Dak Prescott drive off from a ****ing bar, especially in the Cotton District. They should have their asses kicked. Secondly, why would any STARKVILLE cop give Dak a mother****ing dui? Two things, he was driving erratic and was visibly drunk driving--which meant the cocksuckers..or somebody at the bar knew he was drinking...and let him drive off anyway. Or, the arresting officer obviously doesn't give a **** about the university that resides in the town that he serves. This is bullshit. I'll bet he was within a mile from his destination. Have someone pick him up!

If this was a roadblock or check point ... And Dak wasn't ripped drunk or being a dick to the officer , SPD has got to let this go.. Let him call someone to come get them, something..

If he was all over the road or whatever whole different animal.. For sure arrest him get him off road..
But If this is a case of an officer pounding his chest over this , then that's BS..

And yeah where are Daks boys?.? **** no reason this guy should be driving drunk or sober..

The result of this is...
Dak gets off , and the lawyers get paid..
Hurts his cred and draft status
Ex players and NFL guys see shit like this and don't like coming back here.. ( AD and the cowbell fiasco).. Not saying this keeps players from coming back here but it damn sure don't help..

In the end it's on Dak.. Period..
Might better check ur boys or women you roll with... They can't let this happen...

[mic]

Dak is trying to handle all of this by himself. He's lost his mom and he's the only adult he has. Why hasn't Mullen found him a mentor of some kind to look out for him , a former player or something. Shit help the guy navigate all he's had. To do solo.

Exactly...

[Maroonthirteen]

Dak is trying to handle all of this by himself. He's lost his mom and he's the only adult he has. Why hasn't Mullen found him a mentor of some kind to look out for him , a former player or something. Shit help the guy navigate all he's had. To do solo.

Well, he has his brothers but I get your point.

Because we are a mom and pop organization in a competitive market with fortune 500 companies.

[dawgday166]

The .08 threshold is way too low... We have criminalized going out to eat and having a glass of wine these days. It's only the people driving at 1.3 or more that should get popped.

It has become about generating revenue, as opposed to saving lives. Lawyers & PDs are making some dough on this.

[defiantdog]

I can't wait to see this board when the NTSB drops the legal BAC to .05

[Percho]

Nope...can't fault cops on this one...take that argument elsewhere.

I agree. Ref. What they did is better for us and also better for Dak in the long run.

[War Machine Dawg]

Nice job by SPD. Give him a pass and drive him home for all the good he has done. Freakin Barney Fifes on SPD. Dak did indeed screw up but the SPD should have covered this crap up once for all the good he has done for our school. Pisses me off!!

Gotta agree here. After everything Dak has done for the State and community, they expect me to believe they couldn't have handled the situation quietly and avoided giving him a DUI? I call bullshit. We've heard for years the SPD has an antagonistic relationship with our football players - this is just more evidence of it. And I put this partly on Mullen for not making an effort to cultivate a good relationship with SPD.

Also, the DUI laws in MS are crazy. Literally, 2-3 beers puts you over the limit now. They have lowered it that much. Had a big time Bulldog Club guy tell me last night "I went to Como Steakhouse tonight and had 3 beers. If the cops had stopped me on the way home, they'd have given me a DUI. That's how low the BA level is now."

That said, I'm guessing the Clarion Liar is making this a much bigger deal than it really is. The hell with all the flooding or other actual news in the state. Nope, a MSU football player and potential 2nd-3rd round Draft pick got a DUI. Splatter that shit all over the front page, baby!

[Bubb Rubb]

Doubt it. Not this late in the process. Teams are desperate for QBs and Dak is the 3rd or 4th one on the board. He'll still go 2nd round.

Retarded response as usual when there's any criticism of your boy.

[Commercecomet24]

Dang, he's not Aaron Hernandez. He made a mistake. I for one am proud of Dak and what he's done for MSU. This just shows he's human not superman. I don't condone what he did and there will be consequences but let's not act like this is a pattern of behavior or who he is.

[Jack Lambert]

HOw many of you have drinking and drove?

[maroonmania]

It absolutely sucks being a State fan.

That's my thoughts on this. Sucks.

This is my feeling on the subject as well. I guess this is just one of reasons why we can't have nice things. I don't want to get in the middle of this back and forth but I just hope if the SPD found it necessary to put a black eye on the poster boy for not just MSU football, but all of MSU athletics for the time being, then I REALLY hope he was significantly over the limit. Yes, this will hurt Dak's reputation and draft stock personally somewhat but it also hurts Mississippi State and in turn Starkville. Nobody is asking SPD to turn a blind eye to MSU athletes in general but Dak is a different animal and EVERYONE should know it. I can tell you that whatever success Dak has on the next level he will be the first one to market us and give financially back to the University and cause other high profile recruits to have a higher interest in us (which he already does). Anything the SPD does to tarnish Dak is just hurting everything MSU and Starkville related. Would take a pretty short sighted cop to not understand this so I hope the arrest for DUI that Dak got was something that just could not have been avoided due to his significant level of blood alcohol. If this same type situation had happened in another big time college football town I would bet it would have been handled in a much different way.

[Dawg61]

Retarded response as usual when there's any criticism of your boy.

Alright you Cam Newton cock$ucker I am questioning if you're actually an MSU fan after this latest post. You love Cam Newton and now you're knocking Dak. Seems awfully Auburn or Old Misses of you.

[Dawgology]

This is my feeling on the subject as well. I guess this is just one of reasons why we can't have nice things. I don't want to get in the middle of this back and forth but I just hope if the SPD found it necessary to put a black eye on the poster boy for not just MSU football, but all of MSU athletics for the time being, then I REALLY hope he was significantly over the limit. Yes, this will hurt Dak's reputation and draft stock personally somewhat but it also hurts Mississippi State and in turn Starkville. Nobody is asking SPD to turn a blind eye to MSU athletes in general but Dak is a different animal and EVERYONE should know it. I can tell you that whatever success Dak has on the next level he will be the first one to market us and give financially back to the University and cause other high profile recruits to have a higher interest in us (which he already does). Anything the SPD does to tarnish Dak is just hurting everything MSU and Starkville related. Would take a pretty short sighted cop to not understand this so I hope the arrest for DUI that Dak got was something that just could not have been avoided due to his significant level of blood alcohol. If this same type situation had happened in another big time college football town I would bet it would have been handled in a much different way.

I've not responded on this subject because of my close relation to law enforcement but, that being said, I hope he was REALLY sloshy drunk and ready to fight or this was just a bad idea. Not even counting Dak's career, the long term impact this could have on MSU AND Starkville is significant. You can say all people should be treated equally but there is something called officer discretion that is implemented EVERY day in the profession. I have no idea the circumstances surrounding what happened but I do know Dak was teaching a bunch of young kids 6 hours later at a football camp. Not many folks can do that after a heavy bindger. He has either hidden is alcoholism REALLY well the past 5 years or this was a major overreaction by an officer.

[Percho]

This is my feeling on the subject as well. I guess this is just one of reasons why we can't have nice things. I don't want to get in the middle of this back and forth but I just hope if the SPD found it necessary to put a black eye on the poster boy for not just MSU football, but all of MSU athletics for the time being, then I REALLY hope he was significantly over the limit. Yes, this will hurt Dak's reputation and draft stock personally somewhat but it also hurts Mississippi State and in turn Starkville. Nobody is asking SPD to turn a blind eye to MSU athletes in general but Dak is a different animal and EVERYONE should know it. I can tell you that whatever success Dak has on the next level he will be the first one to market us and give financially back to the University and cause other high profile recruits to have a higher interest in us (which he already does). Anything the SPD does to tarnish Dak is just hurting everything MSU and Starkville related. Would take a pretty short sighted cop to not understand this so I hope the arrest for DUI that Dak got was something that just could not have been avoided due to his significant level of blood alcohol. If this same type situation had happened in another big time college football town I would bet it would have been handled in a much different way.

I agree with this post and I Googled and .08 is consistent through the country.

[War Machine Dawg]

I agree with this post and I Googled and .08 is consistent through the country.

Probably a federal "mandate" tied to federal funds. Much like the drinking age being 21. "You don't have to set your drinking age at 21 or BAL at .08, but if you don't, you won't receive federal highway funds."

[Liverpooldawg]

Probably a federal "mandate" tied to federal funds. Much like the drinking age being 21. "You don't have to set your drinking age at 21 or BAL at .08, but if you don't, you won't receive federal highway funds."

Tis exactly what it is.

Dak's statement last night was good. He said what he needed to say. Now he needs to live by it. I think he will.

[Maroonthirteen]

Yeah, I think he is a good guy. No different than any other 22 year old but after the horrible spring break incident, how could he and the university not ensure he has protection (who could drive) with him anytime he goes out in bar/party type setting? Just absolutely dumb all around.

As for SPD, the difference between now and 1980/90... Dash cams and MADD. You cant let people walk like back in the day.

[confucius say]

So no such crime as attempted murder then?

Google "mens rea"

[confucius say]

So is drinking and driving.

No, it's not actually

[tallydawg]

It only erased them for idiots.

Driving drunk is terrible but it's only a problem if you have a drinking problem. Manziel's problem was a drinking problem not a matter if he got a DUI or not.

Please tell that to someone who has actually been affected by a drunk driver. 239 children 14 years and younger killed by drunk drivers in 2012. It is not only a problem if you have a drinking problem because even if it is an isolated incident, it can adversely affect people as we see almost every day.

We all respect Dak and we all make mistakes, but as they say, one "oh shit" can void a thousand "atta boys". If people are skeptical of him and his leadership qualities after this, they have a right to be.

[tallydawg]

Many of us know someone hurt by a drunk driver, so I know why many have strong opinions. Somewhat fortunately for me, no one close to me was a victim, except for some of my friends that were injured while drunk during my college days. My room-mate wrecked while drunk on dead man's curve near Skuna bottom between Gore Springs and Coffeeville. He didn't hurt anybody else but he went through his wind shield. His face was one big scab.

BUT, many of the statistics you see put out by MADD are rigged. If you're sober and you wreck and kill a drunk guy, that goes in the books as a drunk driving fatality. A couple of years ago a good friend of mine in Dallas was T-boned at an intersection. Not his fault. He was given a DUI because some bitch was probably texting her girl friend.

I think that's a skewed logic. There is a difference between the statistics being slightly misleading (maybe off by a few here and there) and by them being rigged. No one has a reason to rig drunk driving statistics. The hard truth is that drunk driving has and will continue to adversely affect people's lives. Making excuses for it doesn't change anything and isn't going to help Dak.

[tallydawg]

Less than 1% of people that drink and drive hit someone. Calm down Francis

239 kids (ages 14 and younger) were killed in 2012 as a result of drunk driving. Statistics for adults is probably much more. Ultimately, I don't see how one could say this was only a "mistake". It was wrong and more than that, it was dangerously selfish.

[Dawgology]

239 kids (ages 14 and younger) were killed in 2012 as a result of drunk driving. Statistics for adults is probably much more. Ultimately, I don't see how one could say this was only a "mistake". It was wrong and more than that, it was dangerously selfish.

Did you know that you can drink one (1) beer and be over the limit? In fact, you can drink 2 or 3 and not even feel it in any way and still blow over a .08. You would be, by the letter of the law, breaking the law and not even know it. Add into the mix a small town DUI unit that has to justify their existence and you have a perfect storm.

Conversely, let's say you had that one beer and were legally over .08. You hop in your car to head home for the night and, as you head down the bypass, a minivan swerves in front of you, catches your bumper losing control and everyone in the minivan dies. Guess who's fault that is? Not the minivans once the tox screen is conducted. Family will be looking for someone to crucify because of the pain they are experiencing.

I have helped with this type of case and it can be tough. It can also lead to some very skewed stats. All of that said...drinking and driving is stupid but I think we need to know more of the story surrounding this incident (which we probably never will). I find it very hard to believe he was really drunk and still made it to his kids camp several hours later. Lots of people there and no one reported him smelling of alcohol or being inebriated.

Just food for thought.

[maroonmania]

Did you know that you can drink one (1) beer and be over the limit? In fact, you can drink 2 or 3 and not even feel it in any way and still blow over a .08. You would be, by the letter of the law, breaking the law and not even know it. Add into the mix a small town DUI unit that has to justify their existence and you have a perfect storm.

Conversely, let's say you had that one beer and were legally over .08. You hop in your car to head home for the night and, as you head down the bypass, a minivan swerves in front of you, catches your bumper losing control and everyone in the minivan dies. Guess who's fault that is? Not the minivans once the tox screen is conducted. Family will be looking for someone to crucify because of the pain they are experiencing.

I have helped with this type of case and it can be tough. It can also lead to some very skewed stats. All of that said...drinking and driving is stupid but I think we need to know more of the story surrounding this incident (which we probably never will). I find it very hard to believe he was really drunk and still made it to his kids camp several hours later. Lots of people there and no one reported him smelling of alcohol or being inebriated.

Just food for thought.

That's why I want to wait and make full judgement after we find out what he blew. Its one thing to be sloshing drunk and to wrecklessly jump behind the wheel of your vehicle and its another to really, truly believe you are OK and be just slightly over the limit. I mean its not like most folks carry a blood alcohol meter on their person.

[tallydawg]

Did you know that you can drink one (1) beer and be over the limit? In fact, you can drink 2 or 3 and not even feel it in any way and still blow over a .08. You would be, by the letter of the law, breaking the law and not even know it. Add into the mix a small town DUI unit that has to justify their existence and you have a perfect storm.

Conversely, let's say you had that one beer and were legally over .08. You hop in your car to head home for the night and, as you head down the bypass, a minivan swerves in front of you, catches your bumper losing control and everyone in the minivan dies. Guess who's fault that is? Not the minivans once the tox screen is conducted. Family will be looking for someone to crucify because of the pain they are experiencing.

I have helped with this type of case and it can be tough. It can also lead to some very skewed stats. All of that said...drinking and driving is stupid but I think we need to know more of the story surrounding this incident (which we probably never will). I find it very hard to believe he was really drunk and still made it to his kids camp several hours later. Lots of people there and no one reported him smelling of alcohol or being inebriated.

Just food for thought.

Good points. I'm also confident he showed up to the camp ready to go and of course no one is doubting that he is a professional individual.

The thing is, as a quarterback and potential leader of an NFL team, it's his responsibility to know the law and understand why he can't make mistakes like that. In addition to that, there is a reason why the legal limit is set to .08. Countless studies show the effects that alcohol has on drivers with reaction time being a big part of it.

Having served in the military for the past few years, I can tell you that we are constantly training on these things. And it wouldn't matter if I blew a .09 and was an outstanding individual, I would be shown the door and likely lose some of my benefits. People look to the military as a standard, but even more than that, our kids are looking at Dak to set a better example.

All of that to say, I'm disappointed and I thought better of him. I still respect him and I will be rooting for him big time at the next level. But as State fans, I don't think we should go easy on him for this. We need to keep our standards high and make sure that all of our players understand that. After all, this isn't TSUN.

[Maroonthirteen]

I hate to keep this topic bumped but...

Y'all do realize that most folks in the GTR are NOT State fans? It is very likely that this cop wasn't a fan. Maybe he was but likely not. Point being, don't expect everyone at SPD to be all in for MSU.

[maroonmania]

I hate to keep this topic bumped but...

Y'all do realize that most folks in the GTR are NOT State fans? It is very likely that this cop wasn't a fan. Maybe he was but likely not. Point being, don't expect everyone at SPD to be all in for MSU.

Well the truth of the reality is that what is good for MSU is good for Starkville and vice versa. I realize that those that are not State fans in the GTR don't really care about that but it doesn't make it any less true. Without MSU Starkville would be lucky to show up on a map.

[Maroonthirteen]

Well the truth of the reality is that what is good for MSU is good for Starkville and vice versa. I realize that those that are not State fans in the GTR don't really care about that but it doesn't make it any less true. Without MSU Starkville would be lucky to show up on a map.

OH! I agree 100%. Starkville and it's citzens should be very thankful for MSU. But that isn't the reality of the situation....

[Coach34]

239 kids (ages 14 and younger) were killed in 2012 as a result of drunk driving. Statistics for adults is probably much more. Ultimately, I don't see how one could say this was only a "mistake". It was wrong and more than that, it was dangerously selfish.

Millions drink and drive everyday. As I said- less than 1%.

This is life and there are dangers out there. We cant eliminate all dangers. You want to eliminate drinking and driving? Then let's ban the sale of alcohol in public places. That would deter it more than anything. We wont do that because alcohol is big business and employs alot of people. Their livelihood depends on people drinking and driving.

[tallydawg]

I understand your point and I agree, but that has nothing to do with Dak's decision. I don't think it is right for us as State fans to try and defend Dak on this by diminishing the seriousness of driving drunk. We can talk statistics and theories all day, but ultimately I think you are in keeping with the opinion that it was not a wise decision for a future NFL quarterback to make. More than that, as I said in the other post, it was a dangerously selfish decision meaning that driving under the influence (no matter how you spin it) is dangerous, and making that decision when you have thousands of people looking up to you is selfish. He's owned up to it and that's the most he can do for now, but I don't think he would ask us to justify this at all. The right thing for fans and staff to do is make sure that our players understand that there is a higher standard to be accountable to, and when you make bad decisions, you are responsible for them.

[Tbonewannabe]

Your having trouble hashing this out. DUI is terrible but doesn't mean you are a bad guy. It only means you made a mistake.

The result of Dak hitting or not hitting someone while driving under the influence, has nothing to do with what type of person he is.

Let me ask this, would you not draft someone that hit someone while texting and driving? What's the difference? Texting and driving is dumb but isn't indicative of the character, leadership, and intelligence of the person. It's just a dumb, unacceptable mistake.

Actually texting and driving is more dangerous unless you are the level drunk where you had to have help starting your car. I see people weave all the time and pull up beside them and they are looking at their phone.