UMassLowell vs MSU Baseball Game Thread

[Coach34]

https://twitter.com/HailStateBB/status/703323894187294721


Good job Coach

[bulldogcountry1]

I like to think I had something to do with it.

[Big4Dawg]

Lovelady...? I'd rather play the freshmen or Collins then him.

[GreenheadDawg]

Not a bad lineup but I don't get Lovelady. He's an automatic out

[msstate7]

Not a bad lineup but I don't get Lovelady. He's an automatic out

He's not playing bc of offense

[GreenheadDawg]

He's not playing bc of offense

Ok good because we have plenty of that **

[msstate7]

Ok good because we have plenty of that **

If lovelady is the catcher that's the greatest asset to our pitchers, I want him to play regardless of offense. Now if marrero is close to calling games and defense, I'd rather him play. I don't want Collins catching at all

[MaroonFlounder]

Keep a close eye on Hump at 3rd. I like the 3 big bats in the top of the lineup behind Robson. Kruger, Rooker, and Lowe.

[GreenheadDawg]

If lovelady is the catcher that's the greatest asset to our pitchers, I want him to play regardless of offense. Now if marrero is close to calling games and defense, I'd rather him play. I don't want Collins catching at all

I definitely agree with that last sentence. I think I would rather Marrero catch to try to get him comfortable at the plate. He needs some ABs

[ScoobaDawg]

and now...1st pitch hit... and lovelady is hurt and down holding his left knee... Great...

[mparkerfd20]

Well Lovelady won't be playing today after all. Goes down first pitch of the game.

[GreenheadDawg]

Dakota better get some damn movement on that fastball or his shit is gonna get rocked in SEC

[War Machine Dawg]

Stovall in to catch. Wow.

[ScoobaDawg]

Lovelady out of the game. Stovall in to catch

[War Machine Dawg]

The Meddler strikes aGAIN. Where is Marrero?

[msstate7]

Lovelady out of the game. Stovall in to catch

Jim said marrero

[BankerDog]

Stovall just called every pitch..and the result was three strikeouts.

[Really Clark?]

Hudson strikes out the remaining side on 13 pitches.

[War Machine Dawg]

Hudson Ks the side after the leadoff hit. Headed B1.

[bulldogcountry1]

So which douchebag X-ed out our logo behind the mound?

[War Machine Dawg]

UML works around a hit from "Freddy" Kruger. 0-0 after 1.

[msstate7]

Jim still saying marrero catching

[Big4Dawg]

So did marrero sleep with Cohen's daughter?

[I seen it dawg]

Jim just realized it wasn't marrero. Jesus

And ****ing Hudson is a mental midget. ****ing pound the zone.

[War Machine Dawg]

Hudson gets out of a jam with a K. 0-0 heading B2.

[War Machine Dawg]

So did marrero sleep with Cohen's daughter?

No, it's just The Meddler being The Meddler. He can't help himself when it comes to being a mad scientist with his subs.

[I seen it dawg]

**** it. If Stovall hits at all let him catch.

[War Machine Dawg]

Jim just realized it wasn't marrero. Jesus

And ****ing Hudson is a mental midget. ****ing pound the zone.

He's getting old and the eyes are going. He's made that mistake consistently across every sport for at least 2-3 years. We need to quietly put him out to pasture, but we don't have the guts to do it. But I know for a fact Will Kollmeyer would crawl over broken glass naked doused in medical alcohol for the job.

[mparkerfd20]

Where is the aggressiveness at the plate from last weekend? This guy has done got in our heads. Watching 1st and 2nd pitch strikes left a right. GEESH!

[Percho]

Does anyone in the dugout know this ump likes them up?

[War Machine Dawg]

Dawgs go in order in the second. Still 0-0.

[I seen it dawg]

Hudson is Evan Mitchell 2.0

[maroonmania]

Hudson is Evan Mitchell 2.0

Exactly, I think I'm just going to start calling him "wild thing".

[Homedawg]

Thru 2 1/3 and Hudson has allowed 5 base runners. Ugh.

[maroonmania]

Dang, nice pick out of the dirt by Nate Lowe for the 3rd out.

[Homedawg]

So in 42 innings in the cape Hudson walks 8 people. In 8 innings here he's walked 6........

[War Machine Dawg]

Hudson works around 1 out walk in the 3rd. 5 Ks through 3. And our fans are bitching. 0-0 after T3. 8-9-1 due up.

[I seen it dawg]

Imagine that....Cody with a laser double

[Really Clark?]

Cody Brown with a double

[Percho]

Lead the nation in doubles but bunt. Works out ok.

[War Machine Dawg]

Brown with a leadoff double. Coinz tries to sac Stovall. Both guys safe thanks to an idiot play. Coinz bailed out because UML is dumber than him.

[Really Clark?]

Dear lord I guess he-who-shall-not-be-named is about to post.

[Blackout]

Dear lord I guess he-who-shall-not-be-named is about to post.

https://media.giphy.com/media/TDMwAs1KQVQWI/giphy.gif

[War Machine Dawg]

Dear lord I guess he-who-shall-not-be-named is about to post.

He should. That was a ****ing stupid call. He just got lucky that UML ****ed it up.

[Blackout]

Coinz bailed out because UML is dumber than him.

You could perfectly hear on ESPN3 "They bailed you out Coach!" after that terrible bunt call

[Really Clark?]

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Hahahaha. Perfect timing

[Really Clark?]

He should. That was a ****ing stupid call. He just got lucky that UML ****ed it up.

Yeah I don't disagree. Just he hadn't posted all thread and I knew that was going to bring him out flaming.

[maroonmania]

Robson beyond lucky he didn't get rung up. Bases loaded no outs for the Dogs.

[War Machine Dawg]

Robson walks. Bases juiced for "Freddy" Kruger.

[War Machine Dawg]

Yeah I don't disagree. Just he hadn't posted all thread and I knew that was going to bring him out flaming.

Fair enough.

[I seen it dawg]

Hudson works around 1 out walk in the 3rd. 5 Ks through 3. And our fans are bitching. 0-0 after T3. 8-9-1 due up.

This is a juco team.

[War Machine Dawg]

You could perfectly hear on ESPN3 "They bailed you out Coach!" after that terrible bunt call

Wondered if anyone else heard that.

[mstatefan91]

Bunt, walk, walk, score. So typical that it hurts lol

[I seen it dawg]

16 juco kids. We are playing Co-Lin

[War Machine Dawg]

Kruger walks. 1-0 Dawgs, bases still juiced. Rooker up.

[mparkerfd20]

This ump behind the plate doesn't know what a strike is.

[War Machine Dawg]

Rooker pops out to 1B on a 3-1 pitch. F me. 1 out.

[War Machine Dawg]

Lowe grounds to 2B, UML unable to turn the DP, 2 score. 3-0 Dawgs. Hump up.

[Really Clark?]

Bail out on error on possible DP plates 2 more

[maroonmania]

Well UML pretty much gifted us all of those runs.

[War Machine Dawg]

Hump flies out to end the inning. 3-0 Dawgs after 3.

[I seen it dawg]

Jim needs to be replaced. They have a ****ing clock to know how long between innings is. And he refuses to shut up so the radio people can actually get the first 2 pitches of any inning.

[War Machine Dawg]

This is a juco team.


16 juco kids. We are playing Co-Lin

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[maroonmania]

Boy, Ricky Vaughn couldn't have done it any better than that first pitch of the inning by Hudson!

[Bucky Dog]

Typical State inning. Cohen bunts in the third after a lead off double ties 0-0 and gets bailed out! What a stupid ass! Then we don't get another hit and score 3 on walks and errors.

[War Machine Dawg]

Quick T4 for Huddy. 2 Ks to give him 7. 6-8 due up.

[War Machine Dawg]

Typical State inning. Cohen bunts in the third after a lead off double ties 0-0 and gets bailed out! What a stupid ass! Then we don't get another hit and score 3 on walks and errors.

It really is getting f'n old. Let 'em hit, dammit!

[I seen it dawg]

Cody 2-2. Shocker

[War Machine Dawg]

Cody Brown rips a 2 out single. Stovall up. Probably gonna bunt.

[War Machine Dawg]

Stovall walks. Robson up.

[msstate7]

Om pouncing #2 Louisville 6-1.

[Really Clark?]

Quick T4 for Huddy. 2 Ks to give him 7. 6-8 due up.

Nice change up as well. If he settles and has that pitch as well. That's pretty nasty.

[War Machine Dawg]

Robson grounds out. 3-0 good guys after 4.

[msstate7]

Hit the ball!

[War Machine Dawg]

Huddy has a quick T5. UML works around another Kruger hit in their half. Still 3-0 after 5.

[I seen it dawg]

Walk the leadoff. ****

[I seen it dawg]

****ing compete dammit

[I seen it dawg]

Good job there by Hudson. And Stovall has some shit in his neck.

[War Machine Dawg]

Huddy works around the leadoff walk, adds 2 more Ks. New career high with 9 K so far. 3-0 after T6.

[War Machine Dawg]

New pitcher for UML: true frosh Kendall Pomeroy.

[Really Clark?]

Tatum is warming up

[MaroonFlounder]

I'm logging in late and this has probably already been covered, but Hunter Stovall is a catcher?

[I seen it dawg]

Yes he is. And a gamer

[War Machine Dawg]

UML works around a 2-out "hit" by Brown. 3-0 after 6.

[War Machine Dawg]

Huddy done, Tatum in.

[Really Clark?]

UML works around a 2-out "hit" by Brown. 3-0 after 6.

Yeah. Talk about falling where they ain't.

[War Machine Dawg]

Leadoff walk from Tatum.

[War Machine Dawg]

2-run shot for UML. 3-2 good guys, 0 out, top 7. F our pen.

[msstate7]

2015 all over again

[War Machine Dawg]

Tatum bounces back to get a backward K. 1 away.

[Brando]

Good God we suck right now. They better wake up or its going to be a LONG F'in season.

[War Machine Dawg]

Backward K x 2 for Tatum.

[sandjunky]

You 17ers do realize that Stovall was an All American and Gatorade Player of the Year as a 17ing catcher right?

[War Machine Dawg]

Backward K x 3. Helluva recovery for Tatum. 3-2 after T7.

[maroonmania]

Guess we will again have nobody out of the pen we can trust to hold a freakin' lead. Of course only 3 runs against this team is ridiculous. Their keystone cop defense has given us most of those.

[War Machine Dawg]

You 17ers do realize that Stovall was an All American and Gatorade Player of the Year as a 17ing catcher right?

Has nothing to do with Stovall. Has to do with The Meddler. We're ****ing loaded at C, especially when Kruger gets healthy. But thanks for playing, asshat.

[Really Clark?]

Well that was a response. Good grief we are Jykle and Hyde

[War Machine Dawg]

"FREDDY" KRUGER BOMB!!!! 4-2 Dawgs!!!!!

[Really Clark?]

I really like what I've seen of his swing. Very nice stroke

[War Machine Dawg]

Rooker & Lowe weak outs to end the inning. 4-2 after 7.

[War Machine Dawg]

Mid-batter pitching change. Tatum out, Blake Smith in. 2 out, runner on 1st, T8. I really hate this bullshit, but apparently it's a Meddler thing and didn't leave with Butch.

[War Machine Dawg]

1 pitch, 1 backward K for Smith. 4-2 good guys after T8.

[Really Clark?]

Mid-batter pitching change. Tatum out, Blake Smith in. 2 out, runner on 1st, T8. I really hate this bullshit, but apparently it's a Meddler thing and didn't leave with Butch.

Yeah but that's not just a Cohen thing either. College coaches do it. I don't like it but they do it.

[Bothrops]

"FREDDY" KRUGER BOMB!!!! 4-2 Dawgs!!!!!

Kruger is the best hitter we've had in a long time.

[War Machine Dawg]

Kruger is the best hitter we've had in a long time.

It's only been a week, so I wouldn't go that far. But he's certainly head and shoulders above everyone else right now.

[MaroonFlounder]

Give me hell about Stovall, but he has NOT been mentioned all preseason as a possibility behind the plate....only infield.

[War Machine Dawg]

2 out, Gridley on 1B, pitching change for UML. Brown hitting.

[sandjunky]

Has nothing to do with Stovall. Has to do with The Meddler. We're ****ing loaded at C, especially when Kruger gets healthy. But thanks for playing, asshat.

Ha! Says the guy that is overly emotional...I didn't say we weren't loaded jackass

[War Machine Dawg]

Give me hell about Stovall, but he has NOT been mentioned all preseason as a possibility behind the plate....only infield.

Exactly. We know he isn't a catcher long term. So why waste a developmental opportunity with Marrero? Unless there's an injury we don't know about, it's a dumb decision.

[War Machine Dawg]

Brown backwards K to end the inning. 4-2 after 8. 3 more outs!

[sandjunky]

Exactly. We know he isn't a catcher long term. So why waste a developmental opportunity with Marrero? Unless there's an injury we don't know about, it's a dumb decision.

Maybe the plan is for him to play both tomorrow?

[djaymsu5]

That ball was wayyyy outside on Brown! Ball 4 that was a horseshit call

[War Machine Dawg]

That ball was wayyyy outside on Brown! Ball 4 that was a horseshit call

The zone has expanded dramatically the last couple innings. Ump is ready to get out of the cold and go home.

[Really Clark?]

Nice job Blake

[mparkerfd20]

I'm liking some Blake Smith

[War Machine Dawg]

Smith Ks the side. 4-2 Dawgs, final. Wrap it in Maroon and White!!

[I seen it dawg]

Good win. We better find some guys that are gonna compete and win at the plate.

[Bucky Dog]

We have a lot of work to do and Cohen has to settle on lineup and quit bunting in the third inning after a lead off double.

[War Machine Dawg]

Good win. We better find some guys that are gonna compete and win at the plate.

Agree. 7 guys throwing up an 0-fer against UML is atrocious. Especially when we only started one true freshman.

[dawgday166]

We have a lot of work to do and Cohen has to settle on lineup and quit bunting in the third inning after a lead off double.

I didn't watch ... please tell me he didn't do that.

[dawgday166]

Yeah I don't disagree. Just he hadn't posted all thread and I knew that was going to bring him out flaming.

That doesn't sit well with me either. I saw some of that shit last year and had to quit watching.

[War Machine Dawg]

I didn't watch ... please tell me he didn't do that.

Indeed he did. Cody Brown ripped the leadoff double, then he asks true frosh Stovall - who had just come into the game due to Lovelady being injured - to lay down a bunt. Fortunately, UML screwed it up. But yes, The Meddler went full Coinz in the 3rd.

[tcdog70]

Can we hire Kruger's JUCO hitting Coach

[Blackout]

I really like what I've seen of his swing. Very nice stroke

Like all of our West Coast JUCO's he hasn't been corrupted by Cohen yet in year 1

[Bucky Dog]

I didn't watch ... please tell me he didn't do that.

Of course he did. It's a momentum killer and takes away the confidence of the kids IMO

[Blackout]

We have a lot of work to do and Cohen has to settle on lineup and quit bunting in the third inning after a lead off double.

He's the same blockheaded moron he's always been. Can't fix stupid. If 2012 didn't teach him, nothing will.

[dawgday166]

I took a minute since I don't know personnel that well to look up past box scores. Looks like Stovall has subbed in one of the games against SDSU and batted 2x in the 4 hole for Collins. So unless I looked at the box score wrong somehow, after a leadoff double in the 3rd, Cohen is then bunting with someone who can hit in the 4 hole for Collins??

I sure hope someone will tell me I'm misreading something here and Stovall is at least a horrific hitter or something similar.

[sandjunky]

I took a minute since I don't know personnel that well to look up past box scores. Looks like Stovall has subbed in one of the games against SDSU and batted 2x in the 4 hole for Collins. So unless I looked at the box score wrong somehow, after a leadoff double in the 3rd, Cohen is then bunting with someone who can hit in the 4 hole for Collins??

I sure hope someone will tell me I'm misreading something here and Stovall is at least a horrific hitter or something similar.

No Stovall is not horrific at hitting...

[War Machine Dawg]

I took a minute since I don't know personnel that well to look up past box scores. Looks like Stovall has subbed in one of the games against SDSU and batted 2x in the 4 hole for Collins. So unless I looked at the box score wrong somehow, after a leadoff double in the 3rd, Cohen is then bunting with someone who can hit in the 4 hole for Collins??

I sure hope someone will tell me I'm misreading something here and Stovall is at least a horrific hitter or something similar.

No, you aren't missing anything. He's a true freshman, so there will be some inconsistency, but he was the damn Gatorade PotY last year. The kid can hit.

[sandjunky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_FWqWK33ic

I like this dudes confidence and how he handles himself

[Really Clark?]

I took a minute since I don't know personnel that well to look up past box scores. Looks like Stovall has subbed in one of the games against SDSU and batted 2x in the 4 hole for Collins. So unless I looked at the box score wrong somehow, after a leadoff double in the 3rd, Cohen is then bunting with someone who can hit in the 4 hole for Collins??

I sure hope someone will tell me I'm misreading something here and Stovall is at least a horrific hitter or something similar.

As far as the sub deal, I wouldn't look too much into that in trying to determine the type of hitter a player is. Once you get into the game it's about a match up and/or just a substitution to get players AB's. That doesn't mean he is consider a 4 hole type of hitter. Michael Smith subbed into the 4 hole in the other SDST game.

[Really Clark?]

No, you aren't missing anything. He's a true freshman, so there will be some inconsistency, but he was the damn Gatorade PotY last year. The kid can hit.

I agree he can hit and should have.

[dawgday166]

Guys ... I'd love to see Cohen be real successful, but he ain't gonna make it I don't think. I'd probably quit if he did that to me ... unless MAYBE if it was a drag or push bunt ... and then I'd want the option if it's in the 3rd inning.

[dawgday166]

As far as the sub deal, I wouldn't look too much into that in trying to determine the type of hitter a player is. Once you get into the game it's about a match up and/or just a substitution to get players AB's. That doesn't mean he is consider a 4 hole type of hitter.

I sorta figure if someone stays in the game for 2 abs in the 4 hole, he probably can drive the ball pretty decent. May not be a power hitter but probably can at least hit line drives pretty decent.

[Really Clark?]

I sorta figure if someone stays in the game for 2 abs in the 4 hole, he probably can drive the ball pretty decent. May not be a power hitter but probably can at least hit line drives pretty decent.

Well like I added to that post, in the other SDST game we subbed Smith into the 4 hole. These were both blowout games with mass substitutions. Depending on who is coming up next would have determined the order not the starting line up. It's like if you have 6, 7, 8 coming up, you may mass sub with what you think would be future 1, 2, 3 type of hitters. On the card they are listed in the 6, 7, and 8 hole but may not be what is projected. Make sense?

[dawgday166]

That's why I asked for clarification from the board that he could hit.

[Really Clark?]

That's why I asked for clarification from the board that he could hit.

Sure. And he can hit. He is just young. But looking at where he subbed doesn't necessarily mean anything depending on where we are in the line up. The game you are talking about he came in as a pinch runner in the 4th. His first at bat was leading off the 6th. So absolutely no coorelation where he subbed and being a 4 hole hitter. He may project into that role but where he subbed was incidental.

ETA. This is not even mentioning that defensive positions has much more to do with who you are subbing with as hitting ability.

[dawgday166]

Ok. Based on finding out he can hit ... to me that's hurting good hitters confidence and probably ain't making the clubhouse a fun place to be either. I don't know ... I guess I just don't understand Cohen's baseball philosophy. I was surprised the recruiting class was so good after last year ... especially if any of the recruits watched the games and saw some of Cohen's calls.

If he gets us to Omaha then that would be good ... but I'm not gonna bet the ranch on it.

[Blackout]

Where you sub into doesn't mean shit. But, he shouldn't be bunting there for damn sure.

Cohen gonna get cute and cost us big necessary innings with that bullshit. Innings cost games, games cost hosting, costing Cohen his job.

[Really Clark?]

Ok. Based on finding out he can hit ... to me that's hurting good hitters confidence and probably ain't making the clubhouse a fun place to be either. I don't know ... I guess I just don't understand Cohen's baseball philosophy. I was surprised the recruiting class was so good after last year ... especially if any of the recruits watched the games and saw some of Cohen's calls.

If he gets us to Omaha then that would be good ... but I'm not gonna bet the ranch on it.

I understand. Just was trying to help you understand that subbing is not necessarily an indication of someone's projected role in the line up for the future. In simplest terms Collins was playing 3rd. So you subbed with a 3rd baseman in Stovall. And in those games it was just mass substitutions. It was a coincidence that Stovall should be a good hitter. But he is young still.

And while I am a mix but still believe bunting is not only useful but also an underrated tool to the pure Sabermatrics guys, I didn't like that bunt in that situation and during this time of year especially.

[dawgday166]

So refresh my memory some here ... been many years since I followed baseball too much. But I thought the box score kept the batting order intact. For instance, Stovall could have played 2nd for say Grindley, but he batted for Collins (which is the 4 hole in the 1st SDSU game).

Is that not the way it works? That's assuming at least a double switch.

In this particular case it looks to me like he subbed at 3rd for Collins and batted for him. He may have been a pinch runner for someone else.

[Really Clark?]

So refresh my memory some here ... been many years since I followed baseball too much. But I thought the box score kept the batting order intact. For instance, Stovall could have played 2nd for say Grindley, but he batted for Collins (which is the 4 hole in the 1st SDSU game).

Is that not the way it works? That's assuming at least a double switch.

In this particular case it looks to me like he subbed at 3rd for Collins and batted for him. He may have been a pinch runner for someone else.

No he pinch ran for Collins in the 4th. When he subbed for him when Collins time in the order came up is when he hits. If Collins was batting 9th he would hit in that spot. His hitting potential is irrelevant. This was a blowout mass sub deal. This is the actual sub for that game for the top of the fifth:

M Smith to cf for Jacob Robson. Jake Mangum to lf. (He also pinch ran in the bottom of the 4th). H Stovall to 3b. (Pinch ran for Collins) Cole Gordon to 1b for N Lowe. Cody Brown to rf for R Humphreys. Ryan Gridley to ss. John Holland to 2b for L Alexander. Elih Marrero to c for J Lovelady.

You are inserted into that persons spot in the line up. But that is completely irrelevant to what type of hitter you are. It's based on position. And in this case it was just a mass sub.

[dawgday166]

I understand. Just was trying to help you understand that subbing is not necessarily an indication of someone's projected role in the line up for the future. In simplest terms Collins was playing 3rd. So you subbed with a 3rd baseman in Stovall. And in those games it was just mass substitutions. It was a coincidence that Stovall should be a good hitter. But he is young still.

And while I am a mix but still believe bunting is not only useful but also an underrated tool to the pure Sabermatrics guys, I didn't like that bunt in that situation and during this time of year especially.

I just reread this and see what you're getting at a little better now ... since it was a blowout. But I guess if I was mass substituting I would probably try to stick someone in the 4 hole that could drive the ball some. Just my thoughts, maybe. It might depend I guess.

[Really Clark?]

I just reread this and see what you're getting at a little better now ... since it was a blowout. But I guess if I was mass substituting I would probably try to stick someone in the 4 hole that could drive the ball some. Just my thoughts, maybe. It might depend I guess.

But during the game you no longer have a 4 hole per say in relation to the score card vs who is actually up in the batting order. You keep thinking in terms of the batting order for the first inning but once the game starts and hopefully you are pounding the ball, by the middle of the game the ACTUAL order coming up for an inning could be any combination. You are going to sub based on defensive positions more so than anything else. If Stovall was light hitting he still slots into Collins spot as a sub in that situation because he plays 3rd.

[dawgday166]

Yea ... the more I think about it the more I recall situations where you might put a real weak hitter in the 4 hole. Certainly late in the game if the 4 hole is down in the order at that time. With the 2 abs/1hit I sorta jumped to the conclusion he was a good hitter. I haven't paid attention to baseball for about 12 or so years now. Watched a little in 2013 and some last year.

I do remember tho, despite my CRS syndrome these days, that with a leadoff double in the 3rd I'm probably gonna try to get more than 1 run unless "maybe" if the roster is full of weak hitters and I have Maddux, Glavine, or Smoltz starting with Rivera in the bullpen. Cohen drove me a little nuts last year doing stuff like that.

[Blackout]

SMDH

[Schultzy]

Bunting a leadoff double, I hate that kind of baseball. Still pulling for us of course but I'll be surprised if he makes it.

[sandjunky]

Exactly...I'm not playing for the one run; I'm trying to break it open early in the game

[Schultzy]

Exactly...I'm not playing for the one run; I'm trying to break it open early in the game
And I'll add this, its got to be embarrassing to our players. If I played for the other team I'd be ragging the shit out of our dugout.

[Bucky Dog]

And I'll add this, its got to be embarrassing to our players. If I played for the other team I'd be ragging the shit out of our dugout.

But my confidence would be crushed for the coach not allowing me the chance to get a hit and drive in the run! It makes now freaking sense in the world to bunt right there. None!!

[tcdog70]

Stovall has speed, why not bunt for a hit in that situation? A nice drag bunt would be OK. Or you could hit the ball to the right side and that would advance the runner. A straight up sacrifice bunt there just sucks.

[dawgday166]

SMDH

Yea ... LOL.

[dawgday166]

Stovall has speed, why not bunt for a hit in that situation? A nice drag bunt would be OK. Or you could hit the ball to the right side and that would advance the runner. A straight up sacrifice bunt there just sucks.

That's why I said in earlier post I might could see a drag or push bunt. Way back in HS I actually batted in 4 hole most of the time from 9th grade though 12, in HS & Summer league ball. Wasn't a mega power hitter, but hit line drives and drove runs in. Had a good coach, especially when it came to hitting. Had a little speed and I could bunt, so i had green light to drag or push bunt in some of those situations when the infield was playing back. I can't recall ever being asked to sac bunt though. Hit and run or run and hit I was called to do .. especially hit and run. Batter has to make contact then.

What Bucky said about confidence is probably happening too. That's why I said I'd probably want to quit in one of my other posts. Plus, you don't make it to the bigs by being a good bunter.

Wanting to give Cohen the benefit of the doubt earlier is why I asked from the board if Stovall could hit. Even then in my mind you'd have to be a damn poor hitter for me to even consider doing something like that, and from reading a little it seems like most of the team can hit pretty good. I think Cohen fell in love with small ball in 2013 and is now taking it into the twilight zone ... and to me he is playing in a twilight zone in baseball I've never witnessed. I've never seen ANYONE have a small ball strategy (if that is what it is) like him. Makes no damn sense half the time.

Something else I scratch my head at a little ... Cohen played a lot last year like he had great pitching. I don't recall that being the case.

[Blackout]

This is SEC college baseball our 1-9 should be able to hit without meddling... And they can. Just stop meddling.

[dawgday166]

This is SEC college baseball our 1-9 should be able to hit without meddling... And they can. Just stop meddling.

That's sorta my thinking (and there's a DH). Size of ballpark doesn't matter if you drive hard-hit line drives all over the place.

From reading boards, all these guys had very good summer leagues with wooden bats. Makes me wonder what happens to them when they come back to school. All of the sudden they can't hit and have to bunt runners over all the time?

And the pitching staff and philosophy is such that Cohen thinks they can hold everyone to 2 or 3 runs max while using 5 pitchers a game?

I don't know ... I don't have a PhD in baseball, but this sure perplexes me.

[War Machine Dawg]

That's sorta my thinking (and there's a DH). Size of ballpark doesn't matter if you drive hard-hit line drives all over the place.

From reading boards, all these guys had very good summer leagues with wooden bats. Makes me wonder what happens to them when they come back to school. All of the sudden they can't hit and have to bunt runners over all the time?

And the pitching staff and philosophy is such that Cohen thinks they can hold everyone to 2 or 3 runs max while using 5 pitchers a game?

I don't know ... I don't have a PhD in baseball, but this sure perplexes me.

Wooden bats are hotter than BBCOR bats. That's why the NCAA changed the baseball.

[dawgday166]

Huh ... didn't know that about the bats. Saw something about change of baseball and changes seemed to affect amount of movement (lower seams I believe).

[War Machine Dawg]

Huh ... didn't know that about the bats. Saw something about change of baseball and changes seemed to affect amount of movement (lower seams I believe).

Correct. The ball is also supposed to carry further when hit. But the current BBCOR bats are deader than a hammer. That's why they "thunk" instead of "ping" now.