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Really Clark?
02-25-2016, 02:59 PM
Dak is 6'2" 226 lbs and has a hand size of 10 7/8". As odd as this sounds, that hand size will move him up several teams boards.

Tbonewannabe
02-25-2016, 03:05 PM
Dak is 6'2" 226 lbs and has a hand size of 10 7/8". As odd as this sounds, that hand size will move him up several teams boards.

I read an article talking specifically about how Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have hand size bigger than 10" and it is a big indicator of accuracy. That will help him maybe slip into the early 2nd round.

Really Clark?
02-25-2016, 03:07 PM
I read an article talking specifically about how Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have hand size bigger than 10" and it is a big indicator of accuracy. That will help him maybe slip into the early 2nd round.

His hands are also the biggest measured with the QB's.

Jack Lambert
02-25-2016, 03:10 PM
You know what they say "big hand means big....."

HoopsCoach21
02-25-2016, 03:10 PM
I read an article talking specifically about how Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have hand size bigger than 10" and it is a big indicator of accuracy. That will help him maybe slip into the early 2nd round.

Teams also have to value hand size for ball security purposes. Especially with a mobile QB.

HoopsCoach21
02-25-2016, 03:11 PM
You know what they say "big hand means big....."

Gloves???

DancingRabbit
02-25-2016, 03:11 PM
Dak at the combine podium

https://www.periscope.tv/w/1ynJOnpqRoWGR

smootness
02-25-2016, 03:11 PM
That hand size is gigantic. That really is huge for him.

smootness
02-25-2016, 03:12 PM
I read an article talking specifically about how Drew Brees and Russell Wilson have hand size bigger than 10" and it is a big indicator of accuracy. That will help him maybe slip into the early 2nd round.

And theirs are around 10 1/4".

Big4Dawg
02-25-2016, 03:14 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25462743/senior-bowl-south-team-official-measurements


Conversely, the large hands for Mississippi State quarterback Dak Prescott (9 7/8") is among the reasons why he was sure a sure-handed ball-carrier and passer for the Bulldogs. Prescott's hands measured biggest among all four South team quarterbacks.

How did he grow his hands a whole inch in a month?

msstate7
02-25-2016, 03:14 PM
How do you get that measurement? Middle finger to start of palm?

smootness
02-25-2016, 03:19 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25462743/senior-bowl-south-team-official-measurements



How did he grow his hands a whole inch in a month?

Interesting. I would guess one of the two is being reported incorrectly.

Really Clark?
02-25-2016, 03:20 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25462743/senior-bowl-south-team-official-measurements



How did he grow his hands a whole inch in a month?

That's odd. You would think the NFL scouts would have measured it the same. Maybe typo?

HoopsDawg
02-25-2016, 03:22 PM
How do you get that measurement? Middle finger to start of palm?

Pinky to Thumb. If that's Dak's true hand size, that's a big positive for him. That's bigger than Favre's hands.

Anything over 10 is considered big by NFL standards.

DancingRabbit
02-25-2016, 03:24 PM
Yeah, I've seen it reported both ways.

This would seem to be official:
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dak-prescott?id=2555260

Really Clark?
02-25-2016, 03:24 PM
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/Dak-Prescott?id=2555260

It's 10 7/8"

smootness
02-25-2016, 03:24 PM
Pinky to Thumb. If that's Dak's true hand size, that's a big positive for him.

It has to be palm to the tip of the middle finger. If it's pinky to thumb, then my hand is more than 11".

HoopsDawg
02-25-2016, 03:28 PM
It has to be palm to the tip of the middle finger. If it's pinky to thumb, then my hand is more than 11".

nope.

Bully13
02-25-2016, 03:29 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25462743/senior-bowl-south-team-official-measurements


How did he grow his hands a whole inch in a month?

Viagra

HoopsDawg
02-25-2016, 03:32 PM
http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/Dak-Prescott?id=2555260

It's 10 7/8"

Kind of interesting:

Weaknesses Beat up this year thanks to poor protection. When he wasn't being sacked, he was being hit hard. Not as competitive a rusher in 2015. Sacks and usage in run game might be taking a toll. Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers. Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply. Pocket poise has been compromised. Hyper* aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw. Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions. Must speed up the pace of his reads. Footwork is a mess. Slight stride onto stiff upper leg with little weight shift. Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body. Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws. Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense. Needs to improve anticipation

They took a shot at our O-line and Mullen has to take some blame for the footwork.

Jack Lambert
02-25-2016, 03:39 PM
[QUOTE=

Anything over 10 is considered big by NFL standards.[/QUOTE]

That would be big based on anyone's standards.

DancingRabbit
02-25-2016, 04:24 PM
Clint Stoerner just tweeted:


Y'all better get on the @DakPrescott band wagon ladies & gentleman he's the safest QB pick in this draft with a huge upside @dallascowboys

https://twitter.com/ClintStoerner/status/702965037741113344

AROB44
02-25-2016, 04:26 PM
Kind of interesting:

Weaknesses Beat up this year thanks to poor protection. When he wasn't being sacked, he was being hit hard. Not as competitive a rusher in 2015. Sacks and usage in run game might be taking a toll. Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers. Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply. Pocket poise has been compromised. Hyper* aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw. Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions. Must speed up the pace of his reads. Footwork is a mess. Slight stride onto stiff upper leg with little weight shift. Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body. Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws. Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense. Needs to improve anticipation

They took a shot at our O-line and Mullen has to take some blame for the footwork.

I know everything that goes wrong on the planet is Mullen's fault, but isn't footwork what the QB coach is responsible for?

Jack Lambert
02-25-2016, 04:34 PM
I know everything that goes wrong on the planet is Mullen's fault, but isn't footwork what the QB coach is responsible for?

How many QB's come out of college with good foot work?

Bully13
02-25-2016, 04:37 PM
If everything was accurate in this guy's "report", Dakota would have to go free agent. Sounds like someone with MSU hate. His criticisms are exaggerated.

Really Clark?
02-25-2016, 04:42 PM
If everything was accurate in this guy's "report", Dakota would have to go free agent. Sounds like someone with MSU hate. His criticisms are exaggerated.

What was posted was just the weakness part. This is the whole thing. And was done I think right after the season.

STRENGTHS
Thick, muscular frame. Has proven over last three seasons that he can withstand a pounding. Has enough natural arm strength and hip snap to fit throws into an NFL window. Stands tall and delivers a tight spiral with over-*the*-top delivery. Very little wind*up and gets ball out with the flick of a wrist. When pocket is clean, can deliver accurate strikes around the field. Played with improved vision and care for football this season and eliminated many of the ill-*fated throws that turned into interceptions in 2014. Still a work in progress, but continues to show a level of growth as a passer. Threat with his legs, scoring 37 rushing touchdowns over last three seasons and had 94 rushes of ten yards or more during that time. Can be used as goal-*line rushing option. Willing to extend plays outside of pocket with legs but look to finish the play with his arm. Mentally tough enough to carry a heavy offensive burden for the Bulldogs over last three years. When protected better in 2014, showed an ability to challenge deep and strike with accuracy and touch.
WEAKNESSES
Beat up this year thanks to poor protection. When he wasn't being sacked, he was being hit hard. Not as competitive a rusher in 2015. Sacks and usage in run game might be taking a toll. Increase in short pass attempts from 86 to 208 this year reason for higher completion numbers. Accuracy on intermediate and deep throws dropped sharply. Pocket poise has been compromised. Hyper* aware of pressure around him and lacks awareness to slide and find temporary shelter to make throw. Concern over pressure too often trumps ability to get through progressions. Must speed up the pace of his reads. Footwork is a mess. Slight stride onto stiff upper leg with little weight shift. Restricted follow through and too often tries to muscle throws with upper body. Throws to target rather than leading or throwing them open on short/intermediate throws. Too respectful of underneath coverage and must be more willing to challenge the defense. Needs to improve anticipation.
NFL COMPARISON
Brett Hundley
BOTTOM LINE
Hard to find an NFL comp for Prescott because he's built like Donovan McNabb, but lacks McNabb's ability and polish. Prescott has NFL size, mobility and enough arm, but the tape shows a player who must improve his mechanics, poise and quickness through his progressions if he is to become a full*-time starter in the NFL. There are absolutely draftable traits and upside, but he will need extended work to smooth out his flaws. Until then, a team would be wise to utilize him on short-yardage packages.

DawgNamedScuba
02-25-2016, 04:55 PM
I try not to read any snippets, I'm just gonna wait till our boys get on the field and show their worth to an organization. Then come back to state and show love back to the program.

Commercecomet24
02-25-2016, 04:56 PM
If everything was accurate in this guy's "report", Dakota would have to go free agent. Sounds like someone with MSU hate. His criticisms are exaggerated.

The Bama and unm games skewed the sack numbers. The ol actually only gave up 14 sacks total in the other 11 games and protected well. That being said those 2 games were brutal. Also note Tom Brady was said to have horrible footwork coming out of college too, see how that one worked out. Also odd that most analysts in our games praised Dak for his improved footwork, reading defenses and pocket presence.

Big4Dawg
02-25-2016, 05:02 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/preston-smith?id=2552276

WEAKNESSES Must time snap to get enough burst upfield to win the edge. More of an edge-rounder than corner-turner. Pedestrian inside pass-rush moves. Scouts say he "sees it" but doesn't have the quick-twitch athleticism to react quickly enough to make plays. Disengages a step slow. Takes too long to ramp up to play speed when asked to stop/start. Will jog and watch in pursuit away. Lacks power to bull rush.

They were sure right about Smith =/

Political Hack
02-25-2016, 05:07 PM
Dak is 6'1".

Political Hack
02-25-2016, 05:11 PM
Those weaknesses are are off IMO. His pocket awareness and ability to move behind the LOS are two of his biggest assets. I understand they're talking about sliding up in the pocket to avoid an end rusher, but they should've said that because it's way overblown the way they describe it.

Tbonewannabe
02-25-2016, 05:19 PM
Whoever gets him is going to get a steal. He has all the attributes you want your NFL QB to have. His arm is plenty strong enough and he can learn footwork. He was extremely successful in the SEC who produces NFL lineman and linebackers at a consistent pace. Dak is the person every team would want as the face of their franchise.

Commercecomet24
02-25-2016, 05:33 PM
Those weaknesses are are off IMO. His pocket awareness and ability to move behind the LOS are two of his biggest assets. I understand they're talking about sliding up in the pocket to avoid an end rusher, but they should've said that because it's way overblown the way they describe it.

Agree completely. The weaknesses are exaggerated big time. His pocket presence is fine.

Todd4State
02-25-2016, 05:41 PM
It has to be palm to the tip of the middle finger. If it's pinky to thumb, then my hand is more than 11".

Maybe you should have been a QB?

mic
02-25-2016, 06:25 PM
Big hands..... I guess that was why Hevesy was involved with Dak during his recruiting process...

Schultzy
02-25-2016, 06:26 PM
Dak is 6'1".

Senior Bowl scouts listed him at 6' 2-1/4"

ILOATHEBears
02-25-2016, 07:02 PM
Big hands..... I guess that was why Hevesy was involved with Dak during the recruiting process...

The more I read about dark the more I already miss that guy in maroon but it also makes me want walk up to Hevesy and kick his ass. We all knew 4-5 years ago we had a special player in the works and all Hev had to do was go get 4 or 5 good oline and we could have won more than 19 in 2. We would have been a playoff team his junior year and a contender or sugar bowl winner this year. Damn u Hevesy

preachermatt83
02-25-2016, 07:52 PM
He is 6'2.

SapperDawg
02-25-2016, 09:10 PM
Does Kapernick now wanting out of SF put Dak on Kelky's more immediate radar (note Mullen connection) at pick number 6 in the second round? No way they would take him with the #7 in the first round.

jbjones
02-25-2016, 09:21 PM
Does Kapernick now wanting out of SF put Dak on Kelky's more immediate radar (note Mullen connection) at pick number 6 in the second round? No way they would take him with the #7 in the first round.

I don't know...Kelly said he's excited to coach Colin, and Colin has not said to him that he wants to leave, according to this article posted a few hours ago.

CBS SPORTS article (www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25495476/chip-kelly-finally-reveals-his-thoughts-on-coaching-colin-kaepernick)

However, I think Dak would be a good clipboard holder for a year or so, when Kelly gets tired of Kaepernick. I hope he ends up starting somewhere, but we'll have to see how it plays out.

SapperDawg
02-25-2016, 09:25 PM
ESPN say otherwise: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14846522/colin-kaepernick-san-francisco-49ers-requests-trade-sources-say

DancingRabbit
02-25-2016, 09:48 PM
WTF? Was this written by a Chinese guy and then run through an online translator?

http://newsbry.com/dak-prescott-at-combine-to-represent-mississippi-state/


Prescott stated he already spoke with Wade Wilson of the Dallas Cowboys in Indianapolis. The quarterbacks coach requested Prescott about backing up Tony Romo and soccer usually.

The Buffalo Payments, Houston Texans and Denver Broncos have additionally proven curiosity both on the Senior Bowl or on the mix.

“Clearly, you need to go as excessive as you possibly can from the monetary standpoint,” Prescott stated. “However I’m simply nervous about getting my foot in at camp, getting in that group and displaying them what I can do.”

Prescott entered 2015 projected as a late-spherical decide. As a senior at Mississippi State, he threw for three,793 yards, 29 touchdowns and solely 5 interceptions.

Todd4State
02-25-2016, 10:09 PM
Does Kapernick now wanting out of SF put Dak on Kelky's more immediate radar (note Mullen connection) at pick number 6 in the second round? No way they would take him with the #7 in the first round.

You never know with Chip Kelly.

smootness
02-25-2016, 11:03 PM
The Buffalo Payments. Hahahahahahahahaha

A late-spherical decide...holy crap, that is amazing.

louisvilledawg
02-26-2016, 09:21 AM
Viagra

I lold

Tbonewannabe
02-26-2016, 09:45 AM
Goff measured in with small hands so it will be interesting to see if that affects his draft stock. Cleveland Browns coach said that hand size was very important to their team. Playing in adverse conditions, hand size affects throwing accuracy and fumbles.

BeardoMSU
02-26-2016, 09:53 AM
Goff measured in with small hands so it will be interesting to see if that affects his draft stock. Cleveland Browns coach said that hand size was very important to their team. Playing in adverse conditions, hand size affects throwing accuracy and fumbles.

I'd rather Dak be drafted in the 2nd round to a "healthy" team, than #1 overall to Cleveland. **** that dumpster fire.

QuadrupleOption
02-26-2016, 09:54 AM
That would be big based on anyone's standards.

Yep. I have pretty massive hands by most people's standards. Having a tape measure handy I went pinky to thumb (10" exactly), edge of palm to tip of middle finger was 8". So either way if that measurement is accurate, Dak's hands are insanely large.

Tbonewannabe
02-26-2016, 11:43 AM
I'd rather Dak be drafted in the 2nd round to a "healthy" team, than #1 overall to Cleveland. **** that dumpster fire.

I doubt Dak goes in the first but I was more referring to people that think Goff is going to Cleveland. I could see Cleveland either trading back to pick up another pick or taking Paxton Lynch or Carson if either are available.

fccee1
02-26-2016, 12:08 PM
You know what they say "big hand means big....."

Big heart.

Travelingdawg
02-26-2016, 12:44 PM
^^^^^^ what he said!!!!!!!!!

tenureplan
02-26-2016, 12:50 PM
explained...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2619668-brandon-allen-uses-hand-massages-to-make-hands-bigger-at-2016-nfl-combine?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial