The Walking Dead Thread

[DownwardDawg]

Holy shit!!!! What a start!!!!!!

I hope it was ok to start a new thread.

[starkvegasdawg]

Looks like Rick had got to find him another piece to tap.

[DownwardDawg]

One of the best episodes ever!!!!! Loved it.

[State82]

Looks like Rick had got to find him another piece to tap.

Hated to see that eye candy have to bite the dust. But at least Carrie Underwood is on The Talking Dead so we have that going for us.

[PassInterference]

Holy freaking shit!

[Political Hack]

That was one of the best episodes ever.

I really thought they were going to kill Glenn this time. Carl's eye was shocking. I figured the kid was dead but didn't think mom would go with him.

[starkvegasdawg]

It had to rank up there with one of my favorite episodes as well. The episode where Terminus collapsed and the one where the prison fell were two of my other favorites.

Yeah, my wife walked out of the room because she thought Glenn was gone and didn't want to watch him die. I had to call her back in just as soon as she got out saying he made it.

Was glad her two sons bought it, but really sucked they let Jessie become a late night snack. That was some true eye candy right there.

The only problem I had with the episode was the scene with Negan's group. I'm trying to figure out how Daryl was able to kill a guy with his bare hands, retrieve a rocket launcher, step out from behind the truck with said rocket launcher, aim, and blow up the gang with out any of them ever hearing or seeing anything.

[jumbo]

Glenn has to be the luckiest character in the history of television.

[msstate7]

It had to rank up there with one of my favorite episodes as well. The episode where Terminus collapsed and the one where the prison fell were two of my other favorites.

Yeah, my wife walked out of the room because she thought Glenn was gone and didn't want to watch him die. I had to call her back in just as soon as she got out saying he made it.

Was glad her two sons bought it, but really sucked they let Jessie become a late night snack. That was some true eye candy right there.

The only problem I had with the episode was the scene with Negan's group. I'm trying to figure out how Daryl was able to kill a guy with his bare hands, retrieve a rocket launcher, step out from behind the truck with said rocket launcher, aim, and blow up the gang with out any of them ever hearing or seeing anything.

I thought there were way too many stretches in this episode... I agree on Daryl pulling that stunt. I thought the whole fighting their way thru the mass of walkers in the dark mind you was crazy. Abraham is one of a hell shot with an automatic weapon hitting only the walkers all around glen, but not glen and hitting the walkers in the head... In the dark. Glen has now survived 2 times when he shouldn't have. I love the show and zombies aren't realistic anyway, but I hope they start making it a little more realistic anyway

[Tbonewannabe]

I thought there were way too many stretches in this episode... I agree on Daryl pulling that stunt. I thought the whole fighting their way thru the mass of walkers in the dark mind you was crazy. Abraham is one of a hell shot with an automatic weapon hitting only the walkers all around glen, but not glen and hitting the walkers in the head... In the dark. Glen has now survived 2 times when he shouldn't have. I love the show and zombies aren't realistic anyway, but I hope they start making it a little more realistic anyway

I loved it also but I mentioned it to my wife with the gun fire and with the amount of zombies out there and no one got bit. I expected Eugene to go down saving someone. I also thought it was a surprise with the Alexandrians not losing anyone either. Props to Michonne for not even blinking an eye when she killed Ron. I hated that punk and his whiny little bitch of a brother. I texted my buddy that I was sad to see Jesse go and he said she died because she raised 2 little bitches. Guilt by association.

[msstate7]

What's up with Jesus? Where's this going?

[chainedup_Dawg]

What's up with Jesus? Where's this going?

Gotta be a Neegan chronie, that's my gut feeling anyway

[jumbo]

Gotta be a Neegan chronie, that's my gut feeling anyway


that was my first thought as well, but I've started thinking maybe he's not and Neegan won't actually show up until next season. The teased the Wolves in season 5 but they didn't show up until the beginning of this season.

I haven't read the comics, so I have no clue. I'd also like to ask that those of you who have please keep the spoilers to a minimum.

[starkvegasdawg]

I won't say much, but if they follow the comics he is not a Neegan chronie although they do know of each other.

[Tbonewannabe]

I think Negan will be at the end of the season. I don't know who this Jesus guy is but he seems like a kungfu Rick. I am guessing he is the leader of another group of survivors that was out scouting like Rick and Darryl. The way he got out of the house means he could have snuck out without anyone probably seeing him but he chose to talk to Rick. The previews showed he was leading them somewhere but you can never tell if it is a trap.

What about Michonne and Rick hooking it up? Glad it finally happened. Jesse was a hot piece of eye candy but her kids were a pain in the ass. I was willing to lose her if it meant never having to hear those kids bitch and moan again.

[starkvegasdawg]

What about Michonne and Rick hooking it up? Glad it finally happened. Jesse was a hot piece of eye candy but her kids were a pain in the ass. I was willing to lose her if it meant never having to hear those kids bitch and moan again.

I knew it was going to happen after Jesse became an appetizer. I was telling my wife I thought that would happen. Although, I thought it would be later in the season or a later season. Didn't know it was going to be three minutes after I said that.

[BulldogBear]

I won't say much, but if they follow the comics he is not a Neegan chronie although they do know of each other.


I think Negan will be at the end of the season. I don't know who this Jesus guy is but he seems like a kungfu Rick. I am guessing he is the leader of another group of survivors that was out scouting like Rick and Darryl. The way he got out of the house means he could have snuck out without anyone probably seeing him but he chose to talk to Rick. The previews showed he was leading them somewhere but you can never tell if it is a trap.

What about Michonne and Rick hooking it up? Glad it finally happened. Jesse was a hot piece of eye candy but her kids were a pain in the ass. I was willing to lose her if it meant never having to hear those kids bitch and moan again.


I knew it was going to happen after Jesse became an appetizer. I was telling my wife I thought that would happen. Although, I thought it would be later in the season or a later season. Didn't know it was going to be three minutes after I said that.
I expected Rick and Michone to happen but later as SVD thought.

As to Paul, aka Jesus, he really doesn't seem like such a bad guy. He could've ended Darryl and instead saved him. He is definitely slick and is also well trained in something. Without giving away spoilers I'll just give the opinion that Negan and gang won't show up till the season finale and will probably result in a major character's gruesome end. In the meantime, we're gonna learn a lot more about "Jesus" and Negan, although indirectly on the latter for 4-5 episodes. This is gonna be a good ride.

[tcdog70]

Jesus, will actually be a good guy. I think we will have some new people join the cast.

[starkvegasdawg]

Without giving away spoilers I'll just give the opinion that Negan and gang won't show up till the season finale and will probably result in a major character's gruesome end.

Any guesses on who? Since they've killed off all of Rick's other love interests is Michonne next on the block or think they'll go more the Abraham/Eugene route? Rick and Daryl are about the only two I would consider safe.

[Dawg61]

Any guesses on who? Since they've killed off all of Rick's other love interests is Michonne next on the block or think they'll go more the Abraham/Eugene route? Rick and Daryl are about the only two I would consider safe.

Michonne just signed her own death warrant once the producers realize those two are very awkward as a forced couple. Makeout scene was like freshman year in high school bad. Michonne's eyes when he leaned in to kiss her haha. Rick is absolutely terrible as an actor when he's not killing zombies. I now believe Shane woulda been the better choice. Did you see him in Fury? Outstanding

[War Machine Dawg]

that was my first thought as well, but I've started thinking maybe he's not and Neegan won't actually show up until next season. The teased the Wolves in season 5 but they didn't show up until the beginning of this season.

I haven't read the comics, so I have no clue. I'd also like to ask that those of you who have please keep the spoilers to a minimum.

Neegan will show up in the season finale. That has been confirmed.

[War Machine Dawg]

Any guesses on who? Since they've killed off all of Rick's other love interests is Michonne next on the block or think they'll go more the Abraham/Eugene route? Rick and Daryl are about the only two I would consider safe.

Actually, Kurtzman (the creator) has said he believes he could kill anyone and keep the show going. But his favorite character is Carol and he doesn't want to kill her. So basically, everyone but Carol is fair game. If I'm going predictions on who it is: Glenn, Maggie, Eugene, Abraham, or Tara.

[starkvegasdawg]

Actually, Kurtzman (the creator) has said he believes he could kill anyone and keep the show going. But his favorite character is Carol and he doesn't want to kill her. So basically, everyone but Carol is fair game. If I'm going predictions on who it is: Glenn, Maggie, Eugene, Abraham, or Tara.

I have to disagree with him. I think there would be a fan revolt if one of those two are killed. Have a hard time thinking Maggie since she is pregnant. I could see Glenn since he has come within a whisper of being killed twice. All of the others I see as not being a big deal either.

[Jack Lambert]

I have to disagree with him. I think there would be a fan revolt if one of those two are killed. Have a hard time thinking Maggie since she is pregnant. I could see Glenn since he has come within a whisper of being killed twice. All of the others I see as not being a big deal either.

Agreed. I think the whole Glenn dying episodes was a trial so see how fans would react. I think they will put some thought into killing off someone.

[starkvegasdawg]

They may still off Glenn, but I think one of Abraham, Rosita, or Sasha will be gone. It never fails that when one character starts talking about trying to start a normal life they end up dead. Last night we saw Abraham really starting to want to try and do that so him or one of his lady friends will bite it. Although I will say, I can't believe it looks like he is really conflicted about choosing between Rosita or Sasha. To me, that ain't even a contest. He's already got one of the hottest women on the show. Don't screw that up, man! Not for Sasha.

My favorite part of the show last night was right after Rick killed a guy in the Hilltop group he gets up covered in blood and asks, "What?"

[msstate7]

They may still off Glenn, but I think one of Abraham, Rosita, or Sasha will be gone. It never fails that when one character starts talking about trying to start a normal life they end up dead. Last night we saw Abraham really starting to want to try and do that so him or one of his lady friends will bite it. Although I will say, I can't believe it looks like he is really conflicted about choosing between Rosita or Sasha. To me, that ain't even a contest. He's already got one of the hottest women on the show. Don't screw that up, man! Not for Sasha.

My favorite part of the show last night was right after Rick killed a guy in the Hilltop group he gets up covered in blood and asks, "What?"

Agree about Rick... He was covered in blood again and he just acted normal.

[Political Hack]

Rick or Michone one are going to take a dirt nap at some point before the series finale. Their love interest may speed it up though. I don't think they'll mess with Darryl. I think anyone else is fair game, except maybe Rick. I'm starting to think Carl is a bionic boy too.

One thing that didn't get a lot of talk was Carl's moment with Michone on the porch. He said it wasn't his place to kill what's her face out in the woods. It should be family. That's one of two things: 1) foreshadowing or 2) Carl becoming a decent person in the middle of a chit storm of chaos that enveloped the world. Either of which are significant developments.

I'm a Jesus fan.

Maggie as a leader seems forced.

[engie]

I think they are going to pull a Gov/Tyrese/Hershel switcharoo on Negan/Glenn/Abraham...

[Dawg61]

Negan about to 86 Glenn

[BulldogBear]

Negan about to 86 Glenn

I still think it'll be in the season finale

[State82]

Holy crap what a wicked episode.

[starkvegasdawg]

Holy crap what a wicked episode.

To say the least. That was wild. Even the mid series premiere didn't have me on the edge of my seat like last night did. Once you got past the acorn beet cookies it was an excellent episode.


i was wondering how they would end up that not being the end of the savior story line since Neegan was still upright and taking nourishment. I guess now we know. I guess the question now is how big of a dent did they put in their group?

My top 4 most likely candidates to die this season are Maggie, Glen, Michonne, and Daryl.

[Tbonewannabe]

It was interesting that Carol is showing remorse for all the people who she has killed and then leaves a cookie on Sam's grave. She is looking at Maggie like she wants to protect her from becoming what she is. Oddly enough her fighting with Maggie is what got them caught.

Glenn also crossed the line of now taking someone's life. He also took the burden from the other guy so he could still be "pure" or however you might describe it. At the end they took those people's lives but with a gun. It is probably a little big different than sliding a blade into the eye socket. Glenn seeing the pictures on the wall of Negan's handy work was another interesting nod to the comics. It will be interesting if they go down the path the comic has laid.

I personally would enjoy it if the show differs from the comic similar to Game of Thrones. GRR Martin has said he is thinking of a twist for the books that is impossible for the show because the character is alive in the books but dead in the show.

[Bully13]

I didn't like the way Abraham treated that pretty girl. She's too good for him. If someone has to die, I guess I'd lose the least amount of sleep over him dying.

[starkvegasdawg]

I didn't like the way Abraham treated that pretty girl. She's too good for him. If someone has to die, I guess I'd lose the least amount of sleep over him dying.

Had someone here at work and fellow ED poster theorize that Sasha will be on the cutting block and force Abraham to come grovelling back to Rosita. And I agree, she is waaaay too hot to be treated that way. I also like the way the guy on Talking Dead put it...That was guaranteed ass. You don't throw away guaranteed ass.

[Tbonewannabe]

Had someone here at work and fellow ED poster theorize that Sasha will be on the cutting block and force Abraham to come grovelling back to Rosita. And I agree, she is waaaay too hot to be treated that way. I also like the way the guy on Talking Dead put it...That was guaranteed ass. You don't throw away guaranteed ass.

Also hot Latina ass, she looks like she could throw down.

[starkvegasdawg]

Also hot Latina ass, she looks like she could throw down.

You better believe it. The fact that she had no problem a couple seasons ago when Eugene was watching them let me know she was a freak in the sack.

[mparkerfd20]

Neegan won't kill Glen. It's going to be Darryl.

[starkvegasdawg]

Neegan won't kill Glen. It's going to be Darryl.

I've heard that rumor. You really think they'll take him off the show? I hope not.

[Dawg61]

Sorry but this episode sucked imo. When did they all turn into Seal Team Six? Zero casualties while storming a complex they have almost no clue about what's inside?! Yea right. Shit has been unrealistic over and over ever since Glenn magically survived with a body being torn apart on top of him and he had to crawl into a 4 inch gap of space. Rocket launcher destroys everything but the good guy? 40 walkers get dropped simultaneously right before Glenn gets it? Every member of the group is suddenly elite special forces trained? Next episode of The Walking Navy Seals Michone will get fire breathing dragon capabilities.

[Bully13]

What a buzz kills 61

[Bully13]

Neegan won't kill Glen. It's going to be Darryl.

If darryl goes, I may also

[Bully13]

If darryl goes, I may also

Oops. ..misunderstood

[starkvegasdawg]

Just saw Daryl doing a dish network commercial.

[Dawg61]

What a buzz kills 61

Lol I'm talking about how unrealistic a show is centered around walking zombies so don't take me too seriously it's all in good fun

[msstate7]

Lol I'm talking about how unrealistic a show is centered around walking zombies so don't take me too seriously it's all in good fun

I found it funny when Glenn was killing the 2 in the room with the door open and a light on in the hallway... Somehow I don't think there'd be very many deep sleepers in this new world

[Tbonewannabe]

I found it funny when Glenn was killing the 2 in the room with the door open and a light on in the hallway... Somehow I don't think there'd be very many deep sleepers in this new world

Well they did have a big room full of Mary Jane. Maybe they liked to party?

[msstate7]

Well they did have a big room full of Mary Jane. Maybe they liked to party?

That's true

[Dawg61]

I found it funny when Glenn was killing the 2 in the room with the door open and a light on in the hallway... Somehow I don't think there'd be very many deep sleepers in this new world

Yea that and they all were shoving large knives through human skulls with about the same amount of force you'd use to slice butter with zero blood splattering and no sound whatsoever

[starkvegasdawg]

Yea that and they all were shoving large knives through human skulls with about the same amount of force you'd use to slice butter with zero blood splattering and no sound whatsoever

I was thinking they were going through the eye socket. That would allow for a much easier path to the brain. Not sure about blood spatter and noise levels.

[Dawg61]

I was thinking they were going through the eye socket. That would allow for a much easier path to the brain. Not sure about blood spatter and noise levels.

I mean I'm no forensic pathologist or anything but I'd assume the human body has the natural reflex to make some type of noise/scream at the moment a knife goes through the brain. Even if it's just for a half a second your brain is gonna send a message fast enough to make some type of sound. But like I said I'm no True Detective. The entire storming the complex scene was the most unrealistic bullshit I remember watching. It's all in good fun though. I'm still watching ain't I.

[Tbonewannabe]

I mean I'm no forensic pathologist or anything but I'd assume the human body has the natural reflex to make some type of noise/scream at the moment a knife goes through the brain. Even if it's just for a half a second your brain is gonna send a message fast enough to make some type of sound. But like I said I'm no True Detective. The entire storming the complex scene was the most unrealistic bullshit I remember watching. It's all in good fun though. I'm still watching ain't I.

Do people make a noise when a sniper takes someone out with a head shot? The knife wouldn't penetrate the entire brain as fast but going through the eye socket would be instant brain damage similar. Most movies and shows have someone shot in the head as just dropping instantly. The only issue I see is the knife not penetrating as fast so I would think you might have someone gasp or something. They could have been covering their mouth as the knife slid in which might cover any sound.

[Dawg61]

Alicia Witt is the ginger's name and she can clean up real nice when she wants to. This was the feminist episode in case you couldn't tell. Why would you walk around for an entire day and never check once to realize you only have two bullets left? 17ing rookie

[Tbonewannabe]

Interesting episode tonight showing the toll it is taking on Carol and Maggie to do what they have had to do. This episode blew my theory out of the water of how Negan was going to show up. Rick made a big mistake shooting that guy before they could get more information.

[jumbo]

Alicia Witt is the ginger's name and she can clean up real nice when she wants to. This was the feminist episode in case you couldn't tell. Why would you walk around for an entire day and never check once to realize you only have two bullets left? 17ing rookie



She looked real good on talking dead.

[Dawg61]

She looked real good on talking dead.

Serious ginger heat

1894

[BulldogBear]

Interesting episode tonight showing the toll it is taking on Carol and Maggie to do what they have had to do. This episode blew my theory out of the water of how Negan was going to show up. Rick made a big mistake shooting that guy before they could get more information.

This is why I still think it will be the season finale and a notable character will be done in by him.

[Dawg61]

This is why I still think it will be the season finale and a notable character will be done in by him.

Glenn gonna get murdered by the real Negan by baseball bat to the face. They all call themselves Negan to protect the identity of the real one. Real Negan is going to be nasty. Worse than the Guvanah.

[tcdog70]

Alicia Witt was Dewey Crowes cousin on Justified. I thought it pretty stupid that when she saw they had escaped then she jacked a bullet into her gun. How stupid to not have your gun without a bullet in the chamber. And you can throw a lit cig on gas and it won't light the gas.

[Dawg61]

Alicia Witt was Dewey Crowes cousin on Justified. I thought it pretty stupid that when she saw they had escaped then she jacked a bullet into her gun. How stupid to not have your gun without a bullet in the chamber. And you can throw a lit cig on gas and it won't light the gas.

It also isn't going to turn into a massive inferno. Sure it'd burn their feet and legs badly but they could just run straight back where they came from without more than 2nd degree burns. The human body isn't a combustible gas can and the room wasn't filled with plywood like our IDPF. You also wouldn't leave M&C alone in a room that isn't locked without making certain they are tied to something so they can't just stand up and walk out the door. Oh zero casualties for the Walking Navy Seals again. Carol was counting her steps and leaving a trail for Darryl to track with a hood over her face. Yea ok. Not gonna lie though I got a little enjoyment outta watching Carol blast that girl in the head and then Rick did it too.

Sorry if I'm a buzzkill again Bully13.

[Tbonewannabe]

It also isn't going to turn into a massive inferno. Sure it'd burn their feet and legs badly but they could just run straight back where they came from without more than 2nd degree burns. The human body isn't a combustible gas can and the room wasn't filled with plywood like our IDPF. You also wouldn't leave M&C alone in a room that isn't locked without making certain they are tied to something so they can't just stand up and walk out the door. Oh zero casualties for the Walking Navy Seals again. Carol was counting her steps and leaving a trail for Darryl to track with a hood over her face. Yea ok. Not gonna lie though I got a little enjoyment outta watching Carol blast that girl in the head and then Rick did it too.

Sorry if I'm a buzzkill again Bully13.

That is just in general how Hollywood handles how combustible gas is. It is the same as cars exploding when something happens or running through the woods with a head shot every time. Not many people could train to the point they could do it but pretty much everyone does it on TWD. I wouldn't think they had enough ammo to waste to get to practice enough for everyone.

[Dawg61]

That is just in general how Hollywood handles how combustible gas is. It is the same as cars exploding when something happens or running through the woods with a head shot every time. Not many people could train to the point they could do it but pretty much everyone does it on TWD. I wouldn't think they had enough ammo to waste to get to practice enough for everyone.

Ha yea I'll stop being a bitch about TWD once Negan hits a homerun with Glenn's face

[Tbonewannabe]

Ha yea I'll stop being a bitch about TWD once Negan hits a homerun with Glenn's face

I am still unsure if it will be Glenn. They like to have the show different but I am sure Negan will make a memorable entrance.

[Bully13]

Ha yea I'll stop being a bitch about TWD once Negan hits a homerun with Glenn's face

Why you hating Glen?

[Dawg61]

Why you hating Glen?

It's not so much that I hate Glen (I don't) but more that I'm sick of the Maggie & Glen love story and them putting the whole group at risk over it. Really all the love stories during a zombie apocalypse are just stupid and forced imo. Only one I found interesting was the triangle one between Shane, Rick's wife and Rick.

[msstate7]

Rosita probably a goner

[Tbonewannabe]

I think either Darryl or Carol get killed by Negan in the finale.

[starkvegasdawg]

Hope it's Carol. But I think you're right. It will be one or the other I'm betting.

[Mjoelner34]

My bet is on Maggie.

[Johnson85]

Rick or Michone one are going to take a dirt nap at some point before the series finale. Their love interest may speed it up though. I don't think they'll mess with Darryl. I think anyone else is fair game, except maybe Rick. I'm starting to think Carl is a bionic boy too.

I don't think you'll see any of those characters bite the dust until ratings start to slip (or until one of them asks for a big contract). I don't think the creators are like Martin in that they take a perverse pleasure in showing that none of the characters are ultimately important (or at least you can't tell from teh story arc which ones will be important and which ones will die off). I think the Walking Dead tv show has some popular characters and they're not going to rock the boat just to rock the boat. I think that's why you see the unrealistic seal Team 6 stuff. They're not going to kill off popular characters just to kill them off.


Maggie as a leader seems forced.

Not nearly as forced as the red head's character. I get that she was supposed to be the mirror image of Carol, but it just wasn't believable. They've both pretty unrealistic characters, but Carol is much better at pulling the persona off and she also has the benefit of some character development.

[BulldogBear]

My bet is on Maggie.

This is where I've been leaning as well. It's still "connected to Glen." I have trouble seeing them going forward in the show with two babies. Environment around everyone about to go to crap again anyway. And now they got no doctor and for the moment at least, no bullet guy.

Around the room in my family we thought a tier 2 character would die last night and we were right. You knew something was gonna go badly. They don't generally show "missions" that go off without a hitch. For instance, apparently they went back and got the girl's (her name eludes me at moment) body but they didn't show that "mission" 'cause nothing apparently went awry.

So, is Carol being gone gonna lead to the big confrontation coming with Negan? I'm having a little trouble with her suddenly having a bunch of Twilight/Hunger Games teenagish angst about killing "for" someone at this point. <<<being believable at this point is what I mean

[Tbonewannabe]

This is where I've been leaning as well. It's still "connected to Glen." I have trouble seeing them going forward in the show with two babies. Environment around everyone about to go to crap again anyway. And now they got no doctor and for the moment at least, no bullet guy.

Around the room in my family we thought a tier 2 character would die last night and we were right. You knew something was gonna go badly. They don't generally show "missions" that go off without a hitch. For instance, apparently they went back and got the girl's (her name eludes me at moment) body but they didn't show that "mission" 'cause nothing apparently went awry.

So, is Carol being gone gonna lead to the big confrontation coming with Negan? I'm having a little trouble with her suddenly having a bunch of Twilight/Hunger Games teenagish angst about killing "for" someone at this point. <<<being believable at this point is what I mean

I think Carol basically "turned herself off" to survive. She walled up her emotions so she could get through everything. Now she is where they can have some semblance of a normal life and the walls came crashing down. It was similar to Morgan but less socially crazy.

[Johnson85]

So, is Carol being gone gonna lead to the big confrontation coming with Negan? I'm having a little trouble with her suddenly having a bunch of Twilight/Hunger Games teenagish angst about killing "for" someone at this point. <<<being believable at this point is what I mean


I don't think her protectiveness of Maggie came with any angst about killing. She wanted to protect Maggie from becoming as desensitized as she had become because she didn't think Maggie could be a good mother if she was forced to do the things Carol has done. She was perfectly fine continuing to kill if it meant that Maggie could retain some of her tenderness for motherhood.

I think Carol's angst about killing didn't show up until she saw her mirror image in the red head, and (1) was reminded of what parts of herself she had given up to survive, especially related to being a mother and/or (2) realized that the people she was killing had likewise changed just to survive, not necessarily b/c they were evil.

I thought Carol's story arc was one of the most believable (at least as far as the emotional aspects of it go, maybe not with respect to being a special ops quality strategist, although even that is probably more realistic than Morgan becoming a ninja) especially compared to somebody like Morgan's or the preacher's

[greenbean]

As soon as the fat blonde starting getting philosophical with her little speech, I told my daughter she was going to buy it, a few seconds later the arrow shuts her mouthy ass up. Now if only Carl will come down with a antibiotic resistant infection in that empty eye socket.....

[HereComesTheSpiral]

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/walkingdead/images/0/04/505_Eugene_Explaining.png/revision/latest?cb=20141111011307

Just threw his' hat into the power struggle. Why continue trading lives for goods when you can hold the monopoly on manufacturing needed goods and controlling the trade of other goods with other colonies.

[Political Hack]

As soon as the fat blonde starting getting philosophical with her little speech, I told my daughter she was going to buy it, a few seconds later the arrow shuts her mouthy ass up. Now if only Carl will come down with a antibiotic resistant infection in that empty eye socket.....

Lol brutal.

[BulldogBear]

Lol brutal.

Tonight they'll give us an emotional break and not kill anyone off!!!!

[starkvegasdawg]

Tonight they'll give us an emotional break and not kill anyone off!!!!
You still stand by that?

[BulldogBear]

You still stand by that?

Blood splatter angle is wrong but if it's Daryl, if anything it was in the arm or something. Carol not dead either.

[starkvegasdawg]

Blood splatter angle is wrong but if it's Daryl, if anything it was in the arm or something. Carol not dead either.

Talking Dead confirmed he was shot, but that's it. Norman Reedus just tweeted this out so I'm guessing he was shot in the hip.

1979

[mparkerfd20]

One of the Top 6 of Rick, Michionne, Daryl, Carol, Glen or Maggie have to die at some point rather soon. Otherwise, the show loses it's flavor.

[Dawg61]

Looked like he shot him in the shoulder and then said "you'll be alright" and I still think it'll be Glenn that goes this time.

[Mjoelner34]

So, what are the chances of Maggie having a John Hurt-like alien birth scene with a zombie baby? Now that'd be good tv!

[starkvegasdawg]

I was reading a rumor/spoiler site and they were theorizing it was Rick that kisses Lucille the season finale. I just have a hard time thinking they kill him off. I think it will be someone involved in a relationship. My money is on Michonne. Here is why I say that. Think back to that scene with Rick and Abraham with Abraham asking Rick about this world when you have a partner you care about. Forgot the exact dialogue but Abraham saying he was not ready to rip the world a new asshole. I think Michonne dies and that takes currently hard core Rick into uber hardcore Rick and the first half of next season is him plotting to kill Negan to exact revenge with the mid season finale being Rick killing Negan in some horrific manner we can't even fathom right now.

[Dawg61]

So, what are the chances of Maggie having a John Hurt-like alien birth scene with a zombie baby? Now that'd be good tv!

Oh man if it was actually Alien 5 it would be the greatest thing ever for this show!! Please let a baby Alien rip through her chest cavity and eat Glenn's face!! Woulda been even better if it had happened during that shower scene. You're a genius Mjoelner!! Rep given

[Jack Lambert]

I was reading a rumor/spoiler site and they were theorizing it was Rick that kisses Lucille the season finale. I just have a hard time thinking they kill him off. I think it will be someone involved in a relationship. My money is on Michonne. Here is why I say that. Think back to that scene with Rick and Abraham with Abraham asking Rick about this world when you have a partner you care about. Forgot the exact dialogue but Abraham saying he was not ready to rip the world a new asshole. I think Michonne dies and that takes currently hard core Rick into uber hardcore Rick and the first half of next season is him plotting to kill Negan to exact revenge with the mid season finale being Rick killing Negan in some horrific manner we can't even fathom right now.

They have obviously introduce some new characters and a few of them could become leaders and they have to make room for them. They have gradually been making Rick out to be like the Governor. They might be building a case to have him hacked. You could be right about Rick.

I think the TV version of Negan is not going to be as bad ass as the comic book version and I don't think rick will be as much of a ***** with his dealings with Negan as in the comic book. Plus the TV show Producers and writers said they like to do their thing.

With the TV show it is about ratings and they will do what they have to keep the ratings up. I still think that the Glenn dying crap several episodes ago was a trial to see how the viewers would react. I suspect they filmed two versions of the season endings based on that reaction.

I think Abraham dies and Sasha dies and possibly Rosetta (spelling) the hot Spanish chick. They seem to have the knack of knocking off hot ones.

Also I think Negans troops are being depleted. 4 were killed by the RPG, 18 killed at the satellite physicality, 7 were killed at the meat plant, 4 were killed when Dwight killed the doctor and Carol just killed another five. Judging by the Pike the guys that carol killed was using, they got some of the Hill Top people to help.

Like I said the TV producers and writer don't like following the comic book.

I think Carol will be off the show for at lest one season. I don't think they kill her off.

I would not be surprise if it all don't come down like Terminus. Think about it, she went away right before the prison fell. She just left again and Alexandria might getting ready to fall. She came back right before Rick and the gang were about to be dinner and saved their ass. Rick and the group might become prisoners or servants to Negan and that is what next season will be all about and Carol show up at the end of the season to save their ass again.

Morgan and Carol might be gone all season to make room for new characters and once some of the others get killed off they bring them back in. They just might not kill off any main characters this season. Just make them disappear for a while.

Just my thoughts.

[BulldogBear]

I think the guy looking for his horse was Negan. And of course Morgan stopped Rick from shooting him. Another reason I think this is because of the big speech (good one actually) where Morgan tied his mercy on the Wolf boy into it leading to the saving of Carl's life. They're setting that up to be ironic when not killing Negan leads to the death next episode of Michone and/or Glen and/or Darryl. I don't think it'll be Rosita.

They also showed a guy riding bold as brass down the middle of a street on a horse in the previews for next week. I don't think that means the guy is just some schmo on a horse. He's someone important. At this point who else would it be?

[Tbonewannabe]

I honestly don't care about any of the new people. If they kill off several of the main people then I will be getting to the point of not caring anymore. I couldn't care less about any of the Alexandria people.

[Jack Lambert]

I think the guy looking for his horse was Negan. And of course Morgan stopped Rick from shooting him. Another reason I think this is because of the big speech (good one actually) where Morgan tied his mercy on the Wolf boy into it leading to the saving of Carl's life. They're setting that up to be ironic when not killing Negan leads to the death next episode of Michone and/or Glen and/or Darryl. I don't think it'll be Rosita.

They also showed a guy riding bold as brass down the middle of a street on a horse in the previews for next week. I don't think that means the guy is just some schmo on a horse. He's someone important. At this point who else would it be?

As perverted and horny as Negan is in the comic I don't think he would kill Rosita off either. She's hot.

[starkvegasdawg]

As perverted and horny as Negan is in the comic I don't think he would kill Rosita off either. She's hot.

Yes. Yes she is. No way in hayuhl I could give her the boot for Sasha. Nope.

[Jack Lambert]

Yes. Yes she is. No way in hayuhl I could give her the boot for Sasha. Nope.

I went back and watched and Dwight did not have a burned faced when he and his girlfriend took the bike from Daryl. When he got his nuts bitten he did have a burned face.

I am thinking in the episode he took the bike he and his girlfriend were trying to escape from negan because Negan has a harem and wanted Dwight girl. At lest he does in the comic book. so they tried to get away but got caught and Negan took Dwight's girl friend or wife and burned his face. I think in the end he ends up being good and joining Rick and crew and becoming a main character. It's obvious he is not a bad guy because he did not kill Daryl when he took the bike and I don't think he killed Daryl the other night.

The question is who does he replace? I am think Sasha or Maggie will leave the show or both. Sasha just had a kid in real life and Maggie is starting to get movie roles.

Dwight could be the one who ends up killing Negan saving Rick and the others and this is how he gets into the group.

[Tbonewannabe]

I went back and watched and Dwight did not have a burned faced when he and his girlfriend took the bike from Daryl. When he got his nuts bitten he did have a burned face.

I am thinking in the episode he took the bike he and his girlfriend were trying to escape from negan because Negan has a harem and wanted Dwight girl. At lest he does in the comic book. so they tried to get away but got caught and Negan took Dwight's girl friend or wife and burned his face. I think in the end he ends up being good and joining Rick and crew and becoming a main character. It's obvious he is not a bad guy because he did not kill Daryl when he took the bike and I don't think he killed Daryl the other night.

The question is who does he replace? I am think Sasha or Maggie will leave the show or both. Sasha just had a kid in real life and Maggie is starting to get movie roles.

Dwight could be the one who ends up killing Negan saving Rick and the others and this is how he gets into the group.

Interesting theory but I don't think Dwight would ever be welcomed in because he killed Denise. Tara or Darryl is going to do whatever they have to make sure he isn't breathing.

[Jack Lambert]

Interesting theory but I don't think Dwight would ever be welcomed in because he killed Denise. Tara or Darryl is going to do whatever they have to make sure he isn't breathing.

If he ends up being the hero and killing Negan it's possible. Anyways Tara and Daryl might die. It's my understanding that Daryl was not in the comic book and his character was based on Dwight.

[starkvegasdawg]

If he ends up being the hero and killing Negan it's possible. Anyways Tara and Daryl might die. It's my understanding that Daryl was not in the comic book and his character was based on Dwight.

He was not in the comic. I think I heard he auditioned for Merle but they didn't think he was a good for that role so they invented a role as his brother because they liked him so much. Whether that was based on Dwight I am not sure. I was reading a spoiler that we may not know who Negan kills until season premiere of next season. The death of the character is from the character's POV so all you have to go off of is hearing other people screaming. If that is true I guess it comes down to how well can you recognize voices off camera.

[starkvegasdawg]

So who was it?

[msstate7]

That was a terrible ending to the season. I watch this show, but crap like that is why I'm really losing interest

[starkvegasdawg]

Something tells me it was Rick based on what was just said on talking dead.

[Uncle Ruckus]

I wasn't paying attention, what was said? I think they will stick with the comics and let it be Glenn after I originally thought it would be Carol. Don't think it will be someone minor like Eugene, Abraham, Sasha, Hot Chick, Gay Guy, etc it'll be one of the long time guys. He said your taking it like a champ, making you think it would be someone surprisingly strong like michone, Carl or Maggie but I'm sticking with Glenn.

[chainedup_Dawg]

Something tells me it was Rick based on what was just said on talking dead.

I don't think it was Rick. Negan said right before he bashed the person's head in "if anyone moves cut out the kid's other eye and feed it to his father". That would leave me to believe it's someone else

[BoomBoom]

That was a terrible ending to the season. I watch this show, but crap like that is why I'm really losing interest

it's amazing how it can be so good and so bad at the same time.

[mparkerfd20]

I don't think it was Rick. Negan said right before he bashed the person's head in "if anyone moves cut out the kid's other eye and feed it to his father". That would leave me to believe it's someone else

That was the first thing I noticed. So it's not Rick and it's not Carl. It's one of Maggie, Daryl, Glen, or Michonne.

[Jack Lambert]

That was the first thing I noticed. So it's not Rick and it's not Carl. It's one of Maggie, Daryl, Glen, or Michonne.

It was Eugene Porter who got his head bashed. Think about it. He said his good bye to everyone. Shook hands with Abraham. Gave his ammo plans on how to make ammo to Rick.

[starkvegasdawg]

I think it was bigger. On talking dead the exec prod said since they killed off this person then the season premiere would be justifying it. Don't think they'd be doing that for a Eugene. That'd be for a truly main character. I'm thinking it was Daryl. Nobody else other than Rick would warrant a statement like that.

[msstate7]

I think it was bigger. On talking dead the exec prod said since they killed off this person then the season premiere would be justifying it. Don't think they'd be doing that for a Eugene. That'd be for a truly main character. I'm thinking it was Daryl. Nobody else other than Rick would warrant a statement like that.

I think there's zero chance Daryl dies before he kills Dwight. Dwight has stolen daryl's motorcycle, crossbow, killed the doctor with daryl's crossbow, captured Daryl, and shot Daryl... Daryl is gonna kill Dwight.

[starkvegasdawg]

I think there's zero chance Daryl dies before he kills Dwight. Dwight has stolen daryl's motorcycle, crossbow, killed the doctor with daryl's crossbow, captured Daryl, and shot Daryl... Daryl is gonna kill Dwight.

That's a good point. I remember reading a supposedly reliable spoiler that it was Rick. I know that doesn't jive with the feeding him his son's eye and I have a hard time thinking they'd kill him off since the show is centered around him. But some things that happened in the show make me wonder.

Gabriel is coming on as having transformed into a coward pacifist into a cold hearted survivor. Rick basically gave him his blessing as leading the community defense and taking care of his daughter. And if you watched Talking Dead then they really made it seem like it was a major character that bought it. I guess that could be Glen. Almost hope it is. He is the main character I could most stand to see go. Wondering if he was the one and then Maggie dies in the season premiere in October. Maybe that would be the premiere that justifies Glen dying last night. I also think it will be a major character that comes back to kill Negan. Although...I also got to thinking that maybe they allow Morgan or Carol to do that as sort of a coming full circle from killer to pacifist back to killer.

Lot of possibilities out there. Sucks we have to wait almost 6 months to find out. Hoping rumors start to circulate when they start filming this summer of who is not on set.

[Jack Lambert]

I think it was bigger. On talking dead the exec prod said since they killed off this person then the season premiere would be justifying it. Don't think they'd be doing that for a Eugene. That'd be for a truly main character. I'm thinking it was Daryl. Nobody else other than Rick would warrant a statement like that.

They may not have decided who it is yet. Too much chance of letting the bag out. You got crazies watching every move that every actor, directors, writers and producers do. If one of the actors up's and moves folks are watching. What is going to be hard for them to do is keep it quiet when they start to film next seasons. People will be watching to see who is on the set.

It still could be Eugene. I am guessing like everyone else. But they have been giving him more subject lines the past four weeks. Also the Producer said on the talking dead that there are clues to who it is.

By the way I just noticed I have over 2 million in vCash.

[starkvegasdawg]

They may not have decided who it is yet. Too much chance of letting the bag out. You got crazies watching every move that every actor, directors, writers and producers do. If one of the actors up's and moves folks are watching. What is going to be hard for them to do is keep it quiet when they start to film next seasons. People will be watching to see who is on the set.

It still could be Eugene. I am guessing like everyone else. But they have been giving him more subject lines the past four weeks. Also the Producer said on the talking dead that there are clues to who it is.

By the way I just noticed I have over 2 million in vCash.

I think the exec producers know who it is but they may not have announced it yet. I remember on TD where Chandler Riggs tweeted in that he still doesn't know who died.

[Jack Lambert]

I think the exec producers know who it is but they may not have announced it yet. I remember on TD where Chandler Riggs tweeted in that he still doesn't know who died.

I agree an I think the writer have a good idea but I would be willing to bet my balls that the actors do not. It is going to be hard to keep it form leaking out especially when they start to film next season.

[Mjoelner34]

I pretty much agree with what this person wrote on a board speculating about who it was:

I think its Glenn. Kirkman said on TTD that there were clues. The POV was used throughout the episode. I'm assuming this meant something. The POV started in the van, which when the doors are opened, the POV comes from the character that is the furthest back. This POV is Glenn's. Just my thoughts.

[DownwardDawg]

Abraham. He was ready. And Negen said damn, took it like a champ.

[Dawg61]

I pretty much agree with what this person wrote on a board speculating about who it was:

I think its Glenn. Kirkman said on TTD that there were clues. The POV was used throughout the episode. I'm assuming this meant something. The POV started in the van, which when the doors are opened, the POV comes from the character that is the furthest back. This POV is Glenn's. Just my thoughts.

Good catch. I think it's Glenn too. Although the smart thing for Negan to do would be kill Rick as he's the leader. You kill the leader and everyone else falls in line. This should be common sense for psycho serial killing leaders right? I could see it being Karl too. He had Negan's gun.

[starkvegasdawg]

Good catch. I think it's Glenn too. Although the smart thing for Negan to do would be kill Rick as he's the leader. You kill the leader and everyone else falls in line. This should be common sense for psycho serial killing leaders right? I could see it being Karl too. He had Negan's gun.

I read that in the comic books he didn't want to kill Rick because he didn't want to make him a martyr. I know the TV show does not always follow the comics, but thought I would throw that out there.

[Jack Lambert]

it's amazing how it can be so good and so bad at the same time.

Kind of like ****ing a fat chic.

[Tbonewannabe]

Someone supposedly slowed down the audio and they think the person is saying Maggie but it says Magg then thud. Then you hear Maggie yell Glenn. It is so distorted, I am not sure if they are just hearing what they want it to be. I also saw someone talking about all the POV scenes might have been from Glenn. The view from the van was farther back and Glenn was one of the last ones out. The other POV, you really couldn't completely tell. The only thing is when Negan is giving his speech about you can cry and what not he talks to the left and right, Glenn was the last one on the end so it might be kind of odd if Negan is telling his guys that.

[starkvegasdawg]

One thing is for sure...it's a good thing we are in the DVR age now because that scene is going to be watched so much between now and October it isn't funny from people trying to figure it out. VHS tapes would have worn out. I know the Exec Prod said they left clues as to who it was. I will say this. I think all these people saying their goodbyes and all that were decoys. I don't think they'd make a cliff hanger to the level of Who Shot JR and leave clues to make the answer that obvious. To me, that rules Eugene and Abraham out. Plus, I don't think they are main enough characters. It's going to be one of Rick, Carl, Daryl, Glen, Maggie, or Michonne. Here is where I put the odds of each:

Rick - 25% Would be the biggest shock value the show could do by killing off the main character. Not sure they have balls that big. Arguments in favor of it being Rick is him showing faith in Gabriel to lead the security of Alexandria and take care of his daughter. He could die knowing those were in good hands after Gabriel went from coward to cold hearted bad ass.
Carl - 15% Killing a kid would make Negan an uber villian and a lot of people would love to see him go. That line about cutting his eye out and feeding it to Rick I don't think is an automatic disqualifer. They could do that after he was dead.
Daryl - 15% There would be riots in America if they killed him, but he would fit the bill of being a major character killed. I just don't think he goes until he gets to kill what's his name with the burned face. EP said the season premiere would hopefully justify killing off the person they did making it sound like it was a big one.
Glen - 30% He's escaped certain death twice this season. Was that foreshadowing his eventual demise here? It's also who he kills in the comics, but the TV show is not shy about deviating from the script.
Maggie - 5% Not sure they let him kill a pregnant woman. That may be just too far even for them. Plus, in the comics she becomes the leader of the Hilltoppers and Glen getting killed would pave the way for her to be willing to leave Alexandria to take on that role. Would also justify Rick putting her in charge of the negotiations when they first met.
Michonne - 10% Every other love interest of Rick has died so she might as will continue the trend.

All of that to say my money is on Glen but Rick wouldn't surprise me.

[Tbonewannabe]

One thing is for sure...it's a good thing we are in the DVR age now because that scene is going to be watched so much between now and October it isn't funny from people trying to figure it out. VHS tapes would have worn out. I know the Exec Prod said they left clues as to who it was. I will say this. I think all these people saying their goodbyes and all that were decoys. I don't think they'd make a cliff hanger to the level of Who Shot JR and leave clues to make the answer that obvious. To me, that rules Eugene and Abraham out. Plus, I don't think they are main enough characters. It's going to be one of Rick, Carl, Daryl, Glen, Maggie, or Michonne. Here is where I put the odds of each:

Rick - 25% Would be the biggest shock value the show could do by killing off the main character. Not sure they have balls that big. Arguments in favor of it being Rick is him showing faith in Gabriel to lead the security of Alexandria and take care of his daughter. He could die knowing those were in good hands after Gabriel went from coward to cold hearted bad ass.
Carl - 15% Killing a kid would make Negan an uber villian and a lot of people would love to see him go. That line about cutting his eye out and feeding it to Rick I don't think is an automatic disqualifer. They could do that after he was dead.
Daryl - 15% There would be riots in America if they killed him, but he would fit the bill of being a major character killed. I just don't think he goes until he gets to kill what's his name with the burned face. EP said the season premiere would hopefully justify killing off the person they did making it sound like it was a big one.
Glen - 30% He's escaped certain death twice this season. Was that foreshadowing his eventual demise here? It's also who he kills in the comics, but the TV show is not shy about deviating from the script.
Maggie - 5% Not sure they let him kill a pregnant woman. That may be just too far even for them. Plus, in the comics she becomes the leader of the Hilltoppers and Glen getting killed would pave the way for her to be willing to leave Alexandria to take on that role. Would also justify Rick putting her in charge of the negotiations when they first met.
Michonne - 10% Every other love interest of Rick has died so she might as will continue the trend.

All of that to say my money is on Glen but Rick wouldn't surprise me.

Supposedly Norman Reedus is looking at movie roles. He has done a couple of movies the past year though. We watched it several times and wasn't sure who it was. I convinced myself that when the person gets hit there is a big white rock around their left knee and there was one around Sasha and Aaron. I don't think Darryl could have "taken it like a champ" because after getting shot he was barely able to sit up. I am still unsure whether this is all to drum up drama because everyone knows what happens in the comic or if they kill someone else just to be different.

I will say Negan is a total badass. I really want to know his backstory.

[Jack Lambert]

Supposedly Norman Reedus is looking at movie roles. He has done a couple of movies the past year though. We watched it several times and wasn't sure who it was. I convinced myself that when the person gets hit there is a big white rock around their left knee and there was one around Sasha and Aaron. I don't think Darryl could have "taken it like a champ" because after getting shot he was barely able to sit up. I am still unsure whether this is all to drum up drama because everyone knows what happens in the comic or if they kill someone else just to be different.

I will say Negan is a total badass. I really want to know his backstory.

I went back and watched the ending and it has to be glenn based on the POV. The only other one it could be is Rositta and I doubt it her based on the fact that Negan likes women a lot.

[Tbonewannabe]

I went back and watched the ending and it has to be glenn based on the POV. The only other one it could be is Rositta and I doubt it her based on the fact that Negan likes women a lot.

Read something today saying they thought it was Michonne because of the angle of the POV in the van. Supposedly it was on the passenger side and Glenn and Rosita were on the driver side. Watching it the only thing I could tell was Darryl was in front of the POV in the van because you can see his messed up hair. Also there was no way in his weakened state that he would have "taken it like a champ".

[starkvegasdawg]

Read something today saying they thought it was Michonne because of the angle of the POV in the van. Supposedly it was on the passenger side and Glenn and Rosita were on the driver side. Watching it the only thing I could tell was Darryl was in front of the POV in the van because you can see his messed up hair. Also there was no way in his weakened state that he would have "taken it like a champ".

Of all the main characters, she is the one I would lose the least amount of sleep over not coming back.

[Tbonewannabe]

Of all the main characters, she is the one I would lose the least amount of sleep over not coming back.

I still think it is going to be Glenn. I think all of this is just creating chaos and at the end they actually follow the comic.

[BoomBoom]

Fear the Walking Dead is still godawful.