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ShotgunDawg
02-12-2016, 02:02 PM
Steve has taken a very factual tone to his findings. Not a lot of personal opinions or speculation.

Here are the major points from today:

1. Ross Bjork's comments that the investigation is over are factually incorrect. The NCAA currently has boots on the ground and interviews were done yesterday.

2. Questioned extensively about why the NCAA would give David Saunders an 8 year show cause and why the Texas coach, who has been gone for sometime and been to 2 other jobs, would be fired if these were only "minor" allegations.

Other than that, there wasn't much meat today.

Coach34
02-12-2016, 02:05 PM
Because they are not minor infractions- thats been a terrible lie

You have Saunders getting an 8 year show-cause- and half of that comes from his time at OM
Now you have Vaughn getting a show-cause
And as Bo mentioned today- there is another coach getting the axe- my guess is its another recruiter and probably on the current staff

jumbo
02-12-2016, 02:11 PM
Per Dan Wolken when the NCAA sends an NOA to a school it now includes not only the charges, but the evidence as well. Could help explain why OM won't let anyone see it.

Mjoelner34
02-12-2016, 02:13 PM
And as Bo mentioned today- there is another coach getting the axe- my guess is its another recruiter and probably on the current staff

So you think somebody is about to get 'nixed' up north?

RC3
02-12-2016, 02:15 PM
So you think somebody is about to get 'nixed' up north?

i see what you did there

Coach34
02-12-2016, 02:15 PM
So you think somebody is about to get 'nixed' up north?

I think its almost a certainty- not sure if Nix tho or someone else to take the fall

dawggoneit
02-12-2016, 02:20 PM
But but but Byork said....... oh never mind it's been more than 5 minutes so those talking points have changed!

Commercecomet24
02-12-2016, 02:21 PM
Its all starting to come together now, all the pieces are slowly fitting together.

Raytoraid83
02-12-2016, 02:28 PM
Friend sent me this:
"So recruiting coordinators for ole miss
Vaughn - 2008-2011 just fired from Texas over NCAA allegations
Freeze - 2006-2007
Saunders - 2003-2005 8 year show cause penalty"

2006-2007 to be determined

chef dixon
02-12-2016, 02:30 PM
Friend sent me this:
"So recruiting coordinators for ole miss
Vaughn - 2008-2011 just fired from Texas over NCAA allegations
Freeze - 2006-2007
Saunders - 2003-2005 8 year show cause penalty"

2006-2007 to be determined

I'm sure they had freeze in there to clean up the act

TrapGame
02-12-2016, 02:36 PM
Friend sent me this:
"So recruiting coordinators for ole miss
Vaughn - 2008-2011 just fired from Texas over NCAA allegations
Freeze - 2006-2007
Saunders - 2003-2005 8 year show cause penalty"

2006-2007 to be determined

Freeze is the capstone. The NCAA knew Freeze was cheating in 2006 cause they caught his ass. Now they're looking at current conditions and evaluating his complicity in the whole thing.

There's a damn good chance Freezus the Pious gets a show cause.

Coach34
02-12-2016, 02:44 PM
There's a damn good chance Freezus the Pious gets a show cause.

Thats what the NCAA is going for....will they get enough to get it??? Thats what the excitement and waiting is for

mparkerfd20
02-12-2016, 02:46 PM
Per Dan Wolken when the NCAA sends an NOA to a school it now includes not only the charges, but the evidence as well. Could help explain why OM won't let anyone see it.

Also says that someone in Texas has a copy of the NOA more than likely if they saw Chris Vaughn's 'damaging' evidence.

CooterDavenport
02-12-2016, 02:52 PM
Did I catch Steve subtly apologizing to Political Hack in there?

preachermatt83
02-12-2016, 02:59 PM
Some are hinting that maybe Branden Wenzel may be next.

Coach34
02-12-2016, 03:01 PM
Some are hinting that maybe Branden Wenzel may be next.

well there you go- thats the current staffer I'm hearing about...asst Crootin coordinator aka Hugh Freezus Deflector Shield

preachermatt83
02-12-2016, 03:03 PM
well there you go- thats the current staffer I'm hearing about...asst Crootin coordinator aka Hugh Freezus Deflector Shield

Yea... He is just gonna be a fall guy of sorts. Somebody they can point to and say "oh but we fired him "

confucius say
02-12-2016, 03:07 PM
Thats what the NCAA is going for....will they get enough to get it??? Thats what the excitement and waiting is for

First time it has struck me, but considering he has already been reprimanded by the ncaa for cheating previously, freeze better hope they can't link him to this.

confucius say
02-12-2016, 03:09 PM
Yea... He is just gonna be a fall guy of sorts. Somebody they can point to and say "oh but we fired him "

Yea, after getting caught. That's like confessing your affair and telling the wife you've ended it after she walked in on you.

Ralph
02-12-2016, 03:13 PM
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26635632/Bahgdad%20Sallee.jpg

Buddy
02-12-2016, 03:13 PM
Some are hinting that maybe Branden Wenzel may be next.

Looks like he's already been removed from their website? Or would he not be listed here?

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/m-footbl-coaches.html

I found this.... but no bio..

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/branden_wenzel_816697.html

PassInterference
02-12-2016, 03:15 PM
In the new world of today's NCAA, the head coach is held responsible for staff's actions (so is the staff).

TrapGame
02-12-2016, 03:17 PM
First time it has struck me, but considering he has already been reprimanded by the ncaa for cheating previously, freeze better hope they can't link him to this.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5e/dc/c9/5edcc96eeaedfc0e8a87df6ae3e27c9f.jpg

Bully13
02-12-2016, 03:19 PM
Looks like he's already been removed from their website? Or would he not be listed here?

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/m-footbl-coaches.html

I found this.... but no bio..

http://www.olemisssports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/branden_wenzel_816697.html

I went and googled him and clicked on his Twitter and nothing since 3rd. The day before signing day he has a pic of their commits names. Is that kosher?

gtowndawg
02-12-2016, 03:21 PM
Some are hinting that maybe Branden Wenzel may be next.

Branden Wenzel = Chet Wallaby


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igtRWNi5yrI

Really Clark?
02-12-2016, 03:22 PM
Hugh Freeze statement: "Spread the good news! We have purged the evil in our midst! Can I get an amen?!?"***

Bubb Rubb
02-12-2016, 03:24 PM
I went and googled him and clicked on his Twitter and nothing since 3rd. The day before signing day he has a pic of their commits names. Is that kosher?

All of those guys were early enrollees....they were already on campus, so it was ok to mention them.

mechdog
02-12-2016, 03:40 PM
Looks like Wenzel was removed from their staff directory.
This screenshot is from Feb 2: http://s30.postimg.org/64c7607w1/2216.jpg

This one is the current directory: http://s10.postimg.org/jg8almy0p/current.jpg

Technetium
02-12-2016, 03:43 PM
Looks like Wenzel was removed from their staff directory.


Gold.

Bully13
02-12-2016, 03:47 PM
Kind of funny nothing since 2-3 on that Twitter account. Did they dismiss a coach with no announcement?

mechdog
02-12-2016, 03:49 PM
Don't know that we can definitively connect it to NCAA troubles. Could be that he left or got fired for other reasons, but it sure is suspicious that his name was removed some time between the day before signing day and now without any sort of announcement.

turkish
02-12-2016, 03:51 PM
Well that's interesting.

Really Clark?
02-12-2016, 03:52 PM
Don't know that we can definitively connect it to NCAA troubles. Could be that he left or got fired for other reasons, but it sure is suspicious that his name was removed some time between the day before signing day and now without any sort of announcement.

I'm sure Footballscoop is all over this. I mean they announce every single one of our people leaving. Surely they are writing up this departure as we speak.

sandwolf
02-12-2016, 03:56 PM
Did I catch Steve subtly apologizing to Political Hack in there?

I think so.....that's definitely how I took it.

mstatefan91
02-12-2016, 03:57 PM
I'm sure Footballscoop is all over this. I mean they announce every single one of our people leaving. Surely they are writing up this departure as we speak.

lol you forgot the part where they wait for a confirmation from a bigger news agency and then they BREAK the news to the world.

It is a big deal and very useful to college coaches that this is done with extreme integrity.*****

mechdog
02-12-2016, 04:16 PM
From footballscoop.com:

Ole Miss: Sources tell us that assistant recruiting director Branden Wenzel has resigned.

They just needed us to break it first.

mstatefan91
02-12-2016, 04:19 PM
From footballscoop.com:

Ole Miss: Sources tell us that assistant recruiting director Branden Wenzel has resigned.

They just needed us to break it first.

I don't see that anywhere... Not that I particularly want to give footballscoop that many clicks.

mechdog
02-12-2016, 04:20 PM
I don't see that anywhere... Not that I particularly want to give footballscoop that many clicks.

https://twitter.com/CoachSamz/status/698248640826052608

mstatefan91
02-12-2016, 04:26 PM
https://twitter.com/CoachSamz/status/698248640826052608

ahh ok

Really Clark?
02-12-2016, 04:28 PM
I don't see that anywhere... Not that I particularly want to give footballscoop that many clicks.

It's not their general feed

preachermatt83
02-12-2016, 04:42 PM
From footballscoop.com:

Ole Miss: Sources tell us that assistant recruiting director Branden Wenzel has resigned.

They just needed us to break it first.

Did they credit ED with originally breaking the story!! #TheRealScoop