Official MSU at LSU Basketball Thread - Well... Keep it Closee

[ScoobaDawg]

Game Information
When: Saturday, Feb. 6, 2016
Time: 5 p.m. CT
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Arena: Maravich Assembly Center
TV: ESPN2
PxP: Mark Jones
Analyst: Kara Lawson

MSU Radio Network:
PxP: Jim Ellis
Analyst: Richard Williams
Sirius/XM: 136/190

Mississippi State Coach: Ben Howland
vs. LSU: 1-0

MSU GAME NOTES (http://www.hailstate.com/fls/16800/pdf/mbk/mbk_notes_020616.pdf?&&&&&&&ATCLID=205324153&SPSID=90865&SPID=10994&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=16806)
LIVE STATS (http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=103029)

BET YOU ASS OFF LINK (http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?40530-MSU-at-LSU-Basketball-(Sat-Feb-6))

WHAT TO NOTE AS MSU PLAYS LSU . . .
- Although LSU has won four out of the last five in this series, MSU has won eight out of the last 15.
- The Tigers have won three straight in Baton Rouge, but it?s 4-4 the last eight outings there.
- The last nine meetings between the two have been tightly contested, with the average margin of victory being 4.6 points. Five of those games have been decided by two points or less.
- MSU has used seven different starting lineups this year.
- Five of the Bulldogs? seven SEC losses this year have been by six points or less (combined 17 points, 3.4 average). All seven have been by an average of 5.9 points.
- In his last two games agaisnt Missouri and Alabama, senior guard Travis Daniels had his best stretch in SEC play 13 and 11 points, respectively.
- The Alabama game also marked the first overtime affair for MSU since beating Texas A&M 81-72 on an. 18, 2014. The Bulldogs are now 60-50 all-time in overtime games, 6-7 against the Tide.
- In just 20 games, Malik Newman has already drained 52 3-pointers. That?s currently the 4th most by an MSU freshman, while his 124 attempts rank 6th.
- Senior forward Gavin Ware leads the SEC and is 13th nationally with his .631 FG percentage after making 12 of his 16 shots against the Crimson Tide.
- MSU had 71 field goal attempts against Bama, the most since having 71 against Troy on 12-10-11.
- Saturday?s game showcases two of the nation?s best in regards to ESPN player efficiency in Gavin Ware (9, 31.34) and LSU?s Ben Simmons (7, 31.48).
-Saturday?s matchup also features a 2015 McDonald?s All-American reunion with Malik Newman and Ben Simmons.


MSU BY THE NUMBERS
46 ? I.J. Ready is 44th nationally with his 2.76 assist/turnover ratio.
291? After having just 278 assists all of last year, MSU already has 291 this year



Last Time Out For LSU
- Won at Auburn, 78-64.
- Ben Simmons paced LSU with 21 points and 13 rebounds to go along with his 7 assists.
- LSU won the battle of the boards, 43-32.
- LSU forced 14 turnovers and had 16.
- The Tigers had 16 assists and 8 steals.
- The Tigers were 34-60 shooting, 3-13 from long range. Auburn was 23-63, 10-34.
- Craig Victor II had 13 points, 8 rebounds.

[ScoobaDawg]

Covers.com preview
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ABOUT MISSISSIPPI STATE (9-12, 2-7 SEC): Senior center Gavin Ware leads the Bulldogs in scoring (16.3) and rebounding (7.3) and he scored a career-best 28 points on 12-of-16 shooting in Tuesday's 82-80 overtime loss to Alabama. "I just kept playing the way I always do," Ware told reporters after moving into 22nd place in school history with 1,227 career points. "I made sure I slowed down and was in the right position to seal in the post." Freshman guard Malik Newman averages 13.2 points while senior Craig Sword scores 12.5 per game despite shooting just 17.5 percent from 3-point range.

ABOUT LSU (14-8, 7-2): Simmons is shooting 56.4 percent from the field while averaging 19.5 points, 12.5 rebounds and five assists and is the prime reason why the Tigers are tied with Texas A&M for first place at the halfway point of the conference season. Sophomore forward Craig Victor II, a transfer from Arizona, is making an impact with averages of 13 points and 6.4 rebounds since becoming eligible after the first semester. Senior guard Keith Hornsby (12.7) and junior guard Tim Quarterman (11.7) also average in double digits.

TIP-INS

1. Mississippi State won last season's lone meeting to halt LSU's four-game series winning streak.

2. Quarterman leads the Tigers with 31 3-pointers and he is 8-of-15 from behind the arc over the past four games.

3. Newman had just three points against Alabama after averaging 19.7 points and making 16-of-26 3-pointers over the previous three contests.

PREDICTION: LSU 75, Mississippi State 70

[starkvegasdawg]

This'll be a game of which freshman gets the ball the less.

[ScoobaDawg]

THE MATCHUP
Pulling the SEC Only comparison stats from the SEC Stats Release (http://assets.espn.go.com/SEC/basketball/ncb/2016/MBKB%20Release.pdf)


Scoring Offense
2. LSU 77.9
6. MSU 74.2

Scoring Defense
8. LSU 74.0
11. Mississippi State 76.6

FT%
3. Mississippi State .723
9. LSU .671

FG %
1. LSU .469
4. Mississippi State .445

FG Defense
8. Mississippi State .431
10. LSU .437

3pt FG%
8. Mississippi State .342
11. LSU .326

3pt Defense
5. LSU .329
13. Mississippi State .391

Rebounds
2. LSU 40.4
13. Mississippi State 33.3

Turnovers
5. Mississippi State 12.9
7. LSU 12.8



I'm not computing it for sec only games but
LSU commits 19.1 fouls per game, while we commit 19.7
Which leads to them taking 25.5 ft per game while we average 17.7 ftpg
LSU is making 68.3% of their ft's at home while we are making 72.7 on the road.

[ScoobaDawg]

Ware will join the 1,000pt/ 800 rebounds with his next rebound....
Currently, only six players in Mississippi State
history have totaled 800 rebounds and 1,000 points.

The six players who have achieved that feat are Bailey Howell (2,030 pts, 1,277 rbs), Jarvis Varnado (1,403 pts, 1,096 rbs), Rickey Brown
(1,838 pts, 1,092 rbs), Wiley Peck (1,136 pts,964 rbs), Erick Dampier (1,231 pts, 859 rbs) and
Tyrone Washington (1,119 pts, 847 rbs). Ware now has 1,227 points and 799 boards


Ware closing in on Top 20 Points scored in MSU History
Will move past Dampier tonight likely...

20. Jack Bouldin 1,257
21. Jerry Graves 1,245
22. Erick Dampier 1,231
23. Gavin Ware 1,227

[Dawg61]

How close is flat top to 1,000 points? LSU is going to murder us on the glass. They are a poor 3point shooting team though so pack the zone in and let them jack 3s the entire game. Simmons is the real deal. Looks to me like the best future #1 since LeBron. Say hello to Josh Gray for the last time. He has gotten worse. Looks scared to shoot it now. Poor little depressed Josh Gray.

[MarketingBully]

As it turned out, the point they took away from us on Daniels first three on Tuesday did matter as we would have been up 1 regardless of whether Sword hit his 1+1 or not. *Sigh* I hate when shitty officiating decides games. Here is a prediction this game. If we get a lead in the second half, the officials will swallow the whistles against LSU and call touch fouls on us including off the ball fouls. Man, I am so ready for these seniors to graduate. Hopefully, the ref bias graduates with them.

[ScoobaDawg]

From LSU...
Quarterman left the Auburn game on Tuesday in the second half which was announced on the SEC Network as a hip issue, but Coach Johnny Jones listed him as probable for Saturday’s game.


Flattop is 17 away, I took that out of the game notes because that might take the rest of the season to get there.

[Dawg61]

As it turned out, the point they took away from us on Daniels first three on Tuesday did matter as we would have been up 1 regardless of whether Sword hit his 1+1 or not. *Sigh* I hate when shitty officiating decides games. Here is a prediction this game. If we get a lead in the second half, the officials will swallow the whistles against LSU and call touch fouls on us including off the ball fouls. Man, I am so ready for these seniors to graduate. Hopefully, the ref bias graduates with them.

I like Ware. A lot. He works his ass off. He is atrocious on defense but the dude is a disgusting ocean of sweat and hustle every game. Hard to hate a player that plays that hard for your school. Fred is growing on me a little too. He has developed a little bit of an attitude the last couple of games. He had to be removed by Howland after getting a technical in one of the games he was ready to start throwing punches. I still think he has fallen way short of his potential but I hope he gets 1,000 points. He is so close. Chicken Sword is such a mystery. He is elite at times when he drives and horrible all the time when he shoots from deep. 17% from 3?! I could shoot better than that left handed. How on earth do you play basketball for thousands and thousands of hours and still only shoot 17%? When your basketball IQ is negative is how.

[MarketingBully]

I like Ware. A lot. He works his ass off. He is atrocious on defense but the dude is a disgusting ocean of sweat and hustle every game. Hard to hate a player that plays that hard for your school. Fred is growing on me a little too. He has developed a little bit of an attitude the last couple of games. He had to be removed by Howland after getting a technical in one of the games he was ready to start throwing punches. I still think he has fallen way short of his potential but I hope he gets 1,000 points. He is so close. Chicken Sword is such a mystery. He is elite at times when he drives and horrible all the time when he shoots from deep. 17% from 3?! I could shoot better than that left handed. How on earth do you play basketball for thousands and thousands of hours and still only shoot 17%? When your basketball IQ is negative is how.

I get it. I like Sword and Ware's hustle as well. Thomas will get 1000 points. He is about 16-20 points away from that mark. Sword is playing with a bum shooting shoulder so that should explain his lack of three point shooting which is dumb he shoots it at all from three. Ready shows spots of being decent during the game but when it comes down to winning time Ready and Sword are the anti winners. Between those two, they have cost us at least six wins this year. At least. I wish when it comes down to winning time, we give Q or Malik a shot if for anything so they can be put in that position. I just think these seniors are cursed as being losers. They play as hard as any team I have seen BUT they don't play smart at all. If they actually played smart, they probably would have won a lot more of these close games this year.

[MarketingBully]

From LSU...
Quarterman left the Auburn game on Tuesday in the second half which was announced on the SEC Network as a hip issue, but Coach Johnny Jones listed him as probable for Saturday’s game.


Flattop is 17 away, I took that out of the game notes because that might take the rest of the season to get there.

I'm not getting my hopes up. They still have Blakney and Simmons. Alabama was without Hale on Tuesday and had to play a walkon several minutes but they had Obasahan and still beat us. That's all they needed.

[Dawg61]

Flattop is 17 away. Haha he is **** away.

[thf24]

Is the game not showing up on WatchESPN for anyone else? Neither live nor upcoming for me.

edit: Nevermind, it's up now.

[msstate7]

Fred passing to sword out of bounds... Pretty much sums up this senior class's career

[Dawg61]

How the **** does Fred not anticipate getting a pass there?! That's the only possible outcome he needs to be prepared for. Jesus he is braindead.

[ScoobaDawg]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CakUnxrW4AAnsnL.png:large

[Dawg61]

Simmons is so good

[msstate7]

Ready without 1 min. Think Howland was pissed about ready not trying to tie game vs bama?

[Dawg61]

Ooohhhhh we are hot!! 20-8!!! Daniels and Fred back 2 back 3s

[mic]

LSU is the worse coached team in the league.. And it's not even close...

[CrookedLetta]

Did IJ make the trip?

[Dawg61]

Good gawd Newman is fast when he wants to be!! He just flew up the court

[ScoobaDawg]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CakXKHsWIAANzl-.png:large

[msstate7]

LSU is the worse coached team in the league.. And it's not even close...

Jones will be in trouble next season. Simmons, gray, Hornsby, and probably quarterman will all be gone. Lsu's recruiting class is ranked in the 50s.

[Dawg61]

Lead evaporated 25-22

[ScoobaDawg]

Did IJ make the trip?

Gregg Ellis replied on twitter to someone, Foot.

[starkvegasdawg]

Won't even ask how we blew it. Can't stand prosperity.

[chef dixon]

Once again in a huge ridiculous foul deficit.

[Jacksondevildog]

Holman is as weak as well water. A stiff breeze will take the ball out of his hands.

[msstate7]

Gregg Ellis replied on twitter to someone, Foot.

I call BS. Howland wasn't happy with ready trying to lay up ball down 3 vs bama

[chef dixon]

Malik is looking so much faster than he did early in the season

[Dawg61]

Q with 2 3s Dawgs up 31-24 but we are in foul trouble

[ScoobaDawg]

I call BS. Howland wasn't happy with ready trying to lay up ball down 3 vs bama

well now...

MSU Men's Basketball ‏@HailStateMBK 59s60 seconds ago
.@IjReady is out with back spasms. Unlikely he’ll play. #HailState

[Dawg61]

Is Strugg dressed? We might have to use a walkon this game.

[ScoobaDawg]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CakZlWbUEAEDzfi.png:large

[RichardHarrow]

I'm at the game. Their lack of a student section blows my mind. There might be 65 or 70 of them.

[msstate7]

Is Strugg dressed? We might have to use a walkon this game.

What's strugg's injury?

[smootness]

Holman has to become more aggressive. Shooting a 3, no matter how wide open, with an entirely open lane to the basket, is inexcusable. Good job by him on the offensive glass, though.

[ScoobaDawg]

I'm at the game. Their lack of a student section blows my mind. There might be 65 or 70 of them.

It's the last weekend of Mardi Gras... It's not that surprising. Plus they arent even national ranked

[smootness]

There is nothing more irritating in basketball than a guy with a horrific shot making them.

[chef dixon]

Holman has to become more aggressive. Shooting a 3, no matter how wide open, with an entirely open lane to the basket, is inexcusable. Good job by him on the offensive glass, though.

That is part of his game and our fans need to accept that

[msstate7]

We are a fouling machine

[ScoobaDawg]

Ware NOW has over 1,000 points AND 800 rebounds.

[MarketingBully]

We get a lead. Get jobbed by the refs. What did I tell you. Never fails with this team. The foul descrepency is all you have to look at.

[smootness]

That is part of his game and our fans need to accept that

I'm totally fine with shooting 3's being part of his game. And there are some players who are good enough that they can shoot wide-open 3's even on a fast break. Holman is not that guy. I can take him shooting the occasional open 3, but not when there are 2 free points waiting for him if he dribbles to the basket.

[MarketingBully]

We are a fouling machine

Fouling machine? Either call fouls or let them play. How many free throws should we have shot had they called it evenly? They are fouling anyone who is going to the basket and not calling anything on LSU. Pretty disgusting if you ask me. Victor should have already fouled out.

[whosyourdawgy]

WTF has Simmons done to get calls from the refs? Ridiculous. He fouled Zuppardo on that layup period, yelled at the official to get Newmans second foul, and got a late whistle when he missed a layup.

[whosyourdawgy]

12 fouls to 4. Home cooking

[mstatefan91]

Why in the hell is Patterson in?

[MarketingBully]

It's amazing how bad these seniors get jobbed for fouls. I have been a fan for 30+ years and never seen refs job kids as much as they do our seniors.

[msstate7]

Is there anything worse than watching miss state basketball? Best case scenario is we keep it close. I hate this team except for the freshmen

[Big4Dawg]

Why the **** does Fred Thomas think he's Seth Curry now?

[MarketingBully]

12 fouls to 4. Home cooking

That's the difference in the game. They hand cuffed us and Simmons is able to do anything he wants to any of our guys and not get a foul called. This is just shit.

[whosyourdawgy]

Dude takes 4 steps and steps out of bounds and no call. What bullshit

[ScoobaDawg]

We get a lead. Get jobbed by the refs. What did I tell you. Never fails with this team. The foul descrepency is all you have to look at.

Or maybe... you just need to accept..we ARE NOT a good defensive team. Its why we dont play man to man full time and are still sloppy on zone down low.

SEC refs do suck though...

[mstatefan91]

Or maybe... you just need to accept..we ARE NOT a good defensive team. Its why we dont play man to man full time and are still sloppy on zone down low.

SEC refs do suck though...

Oh so that explains why LSU doesn't get called for anything even when they blatantly foul us? Gotcha

[BayouDawg]

This team makes me sick. It's one thing to lose but it's another thing to lose because of laziness. Not blocking out, lazy ass passes, being spectators in the 2-3 zone, and the list goes on and on. We came out playing great and then got lazy. It's ridiculous

[mstatefan91]

This team makes me sick. It's one thing to lose but it's another thing to lose because of laziness. Not blocking out, lazy ass passes, being spectators in the 2-3 zone, and the list goes on and on. We came out playing great and then got lazy. It's ridiculous
On top of the foul discrepancy, this is a big issue. We get complacent.

[MarketingBully]

Is there anything worse than watching miss state basketball? Best case scenario is we keep it close. I hate this team except for the freshmen

I don't hate this team as much as I hate the refs reffing this team. It's become predictable. This isn't as bad as the Florida ref raping but it's close and worst of all predictable. What did I say. It's hard to play basketball when the refs allow LSU to hack and push on players driving to the goal. Meanwhile, once we had a comfortable lead they started calling fouls like crazy. 12-4 our fouls to theirs? Are you ****ing kidding me? How can you get Simmons in foul trouble when he is allowed to do anything he wants out there. Including basically pushing the guy he is guarding all over the court (which should be an off the ball foul.)

[BayouDawg]

On top of the foul discrepancy, this is a big issue. We get complacent.
Yep cost us in the Bama game big time. Just a complete lack of focus. I think most of those problems will be making their exist around March. (Hopefully)

[MCsMGs]

I'm sitting in the middle of the LSU season ticket holders and even they won't argue that they are getting BS calls! Yes, LSU fans are quiet when asked about the calls!

[MarketingBully]

Or maybe... you just need to accept..we ARE NOT a good defensive team. Its why we dont play man to man full time and are still sloppy on zone down low.

SEC refs do suck though...

LSU is statistically worse on defense but they get the benefit of hacking bodying and slapping on our drive attempts. We should have gotten at least 20 more free throw attempts on 10 drives we got hacked they didn't call shit on.

[ScoobaDawg]

Oh so that explains why LSU doesn't get called for anything even when they blatantly foul us? Gotcha

Sounds like a conspiracy... since It's happening in EVERY sec game....

[mstatefan91]

Sounds like a conspiracy... since It's happening in EVERY sec game....

It's fairly obvious to see that the refs do not call us the same as the other teams. Other teams are allowed to be much more physical against us. We look at an opposing player wrong, and it's a whistle. Ben Simmons could clock someone right now, and they would probably look the other way (exaggeration).

[MarketingBully]

Listen, the SEC refs suck sure but all I am asking is for it to be called even. If you are going to call it close, call it close. Don't call it close on one end and call it loose on the other. Either let them play or don't. Pretty easy to do. This one sided bullshit pisses me off because it's hard to watch our games when you know you are getting jobbed. Hopefully Howland talked to the refs and it will even out in the second half. If it doesn't, we will have to forfeit this game for lack of players.

[BayouDawg]

I don't hate this team as much as I hate the refs reffing this team. It's become predictable. This isn't as bad as the Florida ref raping but it's close and worst of all predictable. What did I say. It's hard to play basketball when the refs allow LSU to hack and push on players driving to the goal. Meanwhile, once we had a comfortable lead they started calling fouls like crazy. 12-4 our fouls to theirs? Are you ****ing kidding me? How can you get Simmons in foul trouble when he is allowed to do anything he wants out there. Including basically pushing the guy he is guarding all over the court (which should be an off the ball foul.)

While I agree the refs suck. The refs aren't the ones throwing lazy passes, not blocking out, settling for lazy jump shots instead of moving the ball, being statues in the 2-3 zone. If this team would take care of things within their control (I.e. Effort and focus) this is a very winnable game because jones is a horrible coach.

[smootness]

Every fan of every team ever has complained about the refs.

We lose because we're just not good.

[MarketingBully]

Sounds like a conspiracy... since It's happening in EVERY sec game....

We don't get the home court bump at home which is precisely why we lost against Tennessee and Alabama. They both were in the bonus early in the game which changes your game planning considerably. And on the road, the home team gets a huge home team bump. Check out these foul numbers from the Florida game 23 fouls for us 12 fouls for Florida and they needed every foul possible to pull their come back. The foul descrepency is already 12 fouls for us 4 fouls for LSU. So let's see where that ends up.

[MarketingBully]

12-15 Freethrows vs 3-4 Freethrows. That's the game right there.

[BayouDawg]

12-15 Freethrows vs 3-4 Freethrows. That's the game right there.
I'm starting to think the refs hate our seniors even more than we do. Either that or they hate Howland

[MarketingBully]

Gee, a walk was called a foul. Imagine that.

[MarketingBully]

Wow, their first over and back called against LSU. They have done that all night.

[MarketingBully]

Love the hook non call that gave LSU a layup right there. He easily hooked our defender should have been offensive foul the other way.

[Skydawg1]

I'm starting to think the refs hate our seniors even more than we do. Either that or they hate HowlandThey're just trying to get LSU into the tourney. State kicking their ass the first 10 minutes had to be stopped.

[msstate7]

For the rest of the year, I wish we would move Malik to the point for pretty much the whole game, keep playing Q 30+ mins, and get Holman as many mins as possible. This team is done and playing for the future is the way to go. Maybe we can convince Malik to stay by selling him on a move strictly to pg

[MarketingBully]

They're just trying to get LSU into the tourney. State kicking their ass the first 10 minutes had to be stopped.

They started to enforce their will about the time we doubled them up. It took an 11 point lead against Florida in the second half for those dicks to enforce their will then.

[BayouDawg]

What are yalls thoughts on Simmons? He's a great player but with no real threat of an outiside jump shot I don't know if he's gonna be a great NBA player. He's 6-10 with great handles but without a jump shot he's gonna have to bang down low to make his living and I don't know if he can do that

[Perpetual Underachiever]

Watching the last few minutes of the first half, I couldn't help but be reminded of how G. Collins 2013 defenses finished the first half

[MarketingBully]

I can't wait for these seniors to graduate. Please Malik come back.

[msstate7]

Another freshman showing up Malik. Time to face the fact that Malik is overrated

[MarketingBully]

Also, Johnny Jones is the shittiest coach in the SEC. How did he lose 6 games with a pre-season schedule as bad as ours was.

[MarketingBully]

Another freshman showing up Malik. Time to face the fact that Malik is overrated

When your entire team has 3-4 fouls a piece, this type of effort in the second half is expected.

[whosyourdawgy]

Malik and Blakeney been talking. Blakeney is making Malik his bitch too. He can get his shot when hewants. Malik can't. We played as good as we could in the first half and now we are playing normal and they are kicking our ass

[MarketingBully]

The fact that we have Johnny Z get a bunch of minutes should tell you about how shitty our depth is.

[ScoobaDawg]

Malik is frustrated...dumb shot
Taking an extremely long 3 when you just drew a foul starting to drive to the goal..

[ScoobaDawg]

and again...

[MarketingBully]

LOL, they called a foul on that?

[whosyourdawgy]

Can you believe that ficking call

[msstate7]

Freshmen comparisons...

Blakeney -- 25 pts 7 reb 2 assists
Simmons -- 12 pts 7 reb 5 assists

Q -- 8 pts 6 reb 2 assists
Malik -- 2 pts 3 rebs 5 assists

[ScoobaDawg]

there ya go MALIK

[BayouDawg]

That's the problem with getting 5 stars from MS. The competition level is so bad compared to LA and TX and they usually don't even run sets. Malik needs another year atleast

[ScoobaDawg]

Malik two straight drives... gotta stop them

[MarketingBully]

Blakney is the biggest asshole I have seen this year. He isn't a one and done and probably will go three years and be the best player on a shit team his sophomore-seasons.

[ScoobaDawg]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CakoIWDWcAAvdev.png:large

[BayouDawg]

Also, Johnny Jones is the shittiest coach in the SEC. How did he lose 6 games with a pre-season schedule as bad as ours was.
He's a poor man's Rick Stansbury

[MarketingBully]

LSU would be shit without Simmons though.

[MarketingBully]

How many and 1s should we have? I'd say about 10.

[ScoobaDawg]

****ING SWORD HOW DO YOU MISS THAT

[MarketingBully]

If LSU makes the tournament, 1 and done easily.

[chef dixon]

Kinda annoying how blakeney, who has proven he is severely overrated, goes off on us like that.

[whosyourdawgy]

Against LSU you are better off playing the pass against Simmons than him shooting it. He sucked Daniels down in just then for wide open 3. Stay on your man. In the last 3 minutes sword left Hornsby open for a little jumper on the baseline on an oob play and Malik got caught cheating inside on an oob play for a wide open Blakeney 3.

[smootness]

Weatherspoon is our most consistent offensive threat right now. He is going to be so good in time.

[msstate7]

Kinda annoying how blakeney, who has proven he is severely overrated, goes off on us like that.

Malik avg'd bout 3 more points a game entering this game than blakeney. They'll probably avg the same after this game. Malik overrated too?

[MarketingBully]

Kinda annoying how blakeney, who has proven he is severely overrated, goes off on us like that.

Because Sword isn't getting out on his three point attempts so he is shooting it wide open. Next year defensively will be much much much much different because we won't have players playing out of position. Thanks to Ray's great use of our roster we have Q guarding the 4 and Sword guarding the 3 or 2. We will actually have battled in practice and play 1s, 2s, 3s, 4s, and 5s in their correct position. This year we are severely out of position in quite a few spots.

[HoopsDawg]

Can you believe that ficking call

I never complain about officiating. First post on the subject. But this has been the most one-sided officiated game I can remember.

[ScoobaDawg]

Yep Blakeney is a piece of shit....
glad he got that T

[MarketingBully]

Good job asshole Blakney!

[MarketingBully]

I never complain about officiating. First post on the subject. But this has been the most one-sided officiated game I can remember.

If they call the fouls they should have on Simmons in the first half, this is a much different game.

[Skydawg1]

What is this IDIOT on ESPN talking about? He's defending Blakeney's thuggish behavior. The one sitting next to Captain Caveman.

[MarketingBully]

LSU just became my team to hate. Their team is full of entitled cock suckers.

[whosyourdawgy]

No it's not. They are a much better team than we are. There is no question about that.

[MarketingBully]

Will be great to beat the shit out of this team next year. Hope Newman comes back just to beat the shit out of them.

[MarketingBully]

No it's not. They are a much better team than we are. There is no question about that.

Really? You don't think their team is full of entitled cock suckers? Have you watched this game?

[msstate7]

Will be great to beat the shit out of this team next year. Hope Newman comes back just to beat the shit out of them.

I'm not getting my hopes up for next year. I did that this year and another severe letdown. I think 2 years from now is the safe bet

[MarketingBully]

I'm not getting my hopes up for next year. I did that this year and another severe letdown. I think 2 years from now is the safe bet

Well, you will be plesantly surprised. The SEC will suck big time next year except for Kentucky. We should be picked in the top 4 with all of the talent we have coming in. A lot of teams in the SEC will just plain suck.

[whosyourdawgy]

Really? You don't think their team is full of entitled cock suckers? Have you watched this game?

Should've quoted the post I was referring to. You said if the fouls had been called in the first half on Simmons, the second half would've been different. I disagree. They came out in the second half and kicked our ass Blakeney used Malik to get himself jacked and put on a show. The first half fouls were bad but the way they played in the 2nd it wouldn't have mattered

[ScoobaDawg]

I'm not getting my hopes up for next year. I did that this year and another severe letdown. I think 2 years from now is the safe bet

Next year should be huge.. Malik is growing every game. plus the pieces we have coming in... there is no telling how big.. But it will be the biggest thing to look forward to

[msstate7]

Well, you will be plesantly surprised. The SEC will suck big time next year except for Kentucky. We should be picked in the top 4 with all of the talent we have coming in. A lot of teams in the SEC will just plain suck.

Hope so

[MarketingBully]

Should've quoted the post I was referring to. You said if the fouls had been called in the first half on Simmons, the second half would've been different. I disagree. They came out in the second half and kicked our ass Blakeney used Malik to get himself jacked and put on a show. The first half fouls were bad but the way they played in the 2nd it wouldn't have mattered

Simmons is everything to them. He is what gets them going. You have to go after Simmons and get him in foul trouble early. If he isn't in the game, they are just average. How do you think Blakney got open like he did? Because Simmons got him the ball once we doubled him in the post and Sword couldn't get back out to him. Simmons is the best player in college basketball but you still have to make the shots. Most of the threes they hit were wide open. Very few, maybe 2-3, were off sets.

[msstate7]

Next year should be huge.. Malik is growing every game. plus the pieces we have coming in... there is no telling how big.. But it will be the biggest thing to look forward to

Do we even expect Malik back?

[Big4Dawg]

Just an observation, if Q was in this next class, be would be the 5th best player.

[ScoobaDawg]

Do we even expect Malik back?

Obviously won't know until the season is over.. But it would be a HORRIBLE decision to leave as of right now.

[whosyourdawgy]

That's because Sword gives up wide open 3's every game by getting too far in the paint that he can't recover. Hornsby killed us as well.

[msstate7]

Just an observation, if Q was in this next class, be would be the 5th best player.

By ratings... If 5 of this upcoming class is better than Q, we'll be loaded. Malik was much higher rated than Q, but it was unwarranted imo

[msstate7]

Obviously won't know until the season is over.. But it would be a HORRIBLE decision to leave as of right now.

I agree.

[MarketingBully]

If I was Malik, I would hold off one more year so I could play with Kegler and kids that can absolutely light up the score board. Howland shouldn't have to spend a ton of time on the offensive end of the floor but be able to work on the defensive side of the ball which he basically had to spend his time on both offense and defense with this year's seniors. He has a chance to be a lottery pick next year but he is a kid who would only be possibly a late first round/early second round pick this year.

[MarketingBully]

That's because Sword gives up wide open 3's every game by getting too far in the paint that he can't recover. Hornsby killed us as well.

Next year, Kegler (a Dontae Jones clone) will play the three next year. 6'7 235 LB kid that handles the ball like a guard and can score at will will replace Sword.

[msstate7]

And om bout to beat vandy to get back to .500 in sec play and get themselves in position to make a run at postseason. God, I hate them being a better basketball program than us lately

[MarketingBully]

And om bout to beat vandy to get back to .500 in sec play and get themselves in position to make a run at postseason. God, I hate them being a better basketball program than us lately

That is a direct product of us hiring Rick Ray. Not a coincidence that they have been to two NCAA tourneys and an NIT with him as our coach. They will make the NIT this year based on Moody alone. You want to know how bad it could have gotten msstate7? If we kept Ray, odds would have been very good that Newman would be wearing Red and Blue or Purple and Gold and this team would still suck just as bad with the bottom falling out next year. At least, AT LEAST, we will start going in the right direction next year. We have a great chance these next three games to win all three to get to five wins. Stricklin at least stopped the self imposed death penalty he put on our basketball team and fixed his mistake when he hired Howland. We will be fine starting next year while Ole Miss will go back to at best mediocre.

[msstate7]

That is a direct product of us hiring Rick Ray. Not a coincidence that they have been to two NCAA tourneys and an NIT with him as our coach. They will make the NIT this year based on Moody alone. You want to know how bad it could have gotten msstate7? If we kept Ray, odds would have been very good that Newman would be wearing Red and Blue or Purple and Gold and this team would still suck just as bad with the bottom falling out next year. At least, AT LEAST, we will start going in the right direction next year. We have a great chance these next three games to win all three to get to five wins. Stricklin at least stopped the self imposed death penalty he put on our basketball team by hiring Howland. We will be fine starting next year while Ole Miss will go back to at best mediocre.

I think so too... Still sucks this year though

[fishwater99]

Just an observation, if Q was in this next class, be would be the 5th best player.

What? Q was a top 50 player.

[MarketingBully]

Obviously won't know until the season is over.. But it would be a HORRIBLE decision to leave as of right now.

I just looked on nbadraft.net and they dropped him all the way to the 60s and if that holds he will not be in the second round so yeah it would be in his best interest to come back.

[MarketingBully]

Also, they only have two UK players in the draft so they will have to process some high level players in order to make their numbers work. This might be the first year Cal's methods will screw him. Some of the players he thought were one and done aren't.