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blacklistedbully
01-31-2016, 10:05 AM
Ah, but they are most likely in for a rude awakening. Here's why:

The NCAA's four-year statute of limitations doesn't apply when there is a pattern of willful violations that continues into the past four years.

19.5.11 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is provided to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation: (Adopted: 10/30/12 effective 8/1/13)
(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;
(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and
(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association?s fundamental recruiting, extra benefit, academic or ethical-conduct bylaws or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning the matter.

You see, if the NCAA determines Ole Miss continued to use this ACT testing place to get ACT scores high enough to qualify recruits, they can, indeed go back as far as they want. We already know the NCAA became aware by 2013 of what Saunders was doing at Ole Miss.

So, the Statute of Limitations could very well offer them no protection. Also consider there have been some who have claimed Ole Miss has been under investigation the past 3 years (I believe this is now admitted to even by some OM folks). If that is true, their SOL is blown to hell again, as that could mean what Saunders did for Ole Miss in 2010-2011 would be in play.

Political Hack
01-31-2016, 10:52 AM
As long as they don't have to rely on a Statue of James Meredith.

Barkman Turner Overdrive
01-31-2016, 10:57 AM
Ah, but they are most likely in for a rude awakening. Here's why:

The NCAA's four-year statute of limitations doesn't apply when there is a pattern of willful violations that continues into the past four years.

19.5.11 Statute of Limitations. Allegations included in a notice of allegations shall be limited to possible violations occurring not earlier than four years before the date the notice of inquiry is provided to the institution or the date the institution notifies (or, if earlier, should have notified) the enforcement staff of its inquiries into the matter. However, the following shall not be subject to the four-year limitation: (Adopted: 10/30/12 effective 8/1/13)
(a) Allegations involving violations affecting the eligibility of a current student-athlete;
(b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period; and
(c) Allegations that indicate a blatant disregard for the Association?s fundamental recruiting, extra benefit, academic or ethical-conduct bylaws or that involve an effort to conceal the occurrence of the violation. In such cases, the enforcement staff shall have a one-year period after the date information concerning the matter becomes available to the NCAA to investigate and submit to the institution a notice of allegations concerning the matter.

You see, if the NCAA determines Ole Miss continued to use this ACT testing place to get ACT scores high enough to qualify recruits, they can, indeed go back as far as they want. We already know the NCAA became aware by 2013 of what Saunders was doing at Ole Miss.

So, the Statute of Limitations could very well offer them no protection. Also consider there have been some who have claimed Ole Miss has been under investigation the past 3 years (I believe this is now admitted to even by some OM folks). If that is true, their SOL is blown to hell again, as that could mean what Saunders did for Ole Miss in 2010-2011 would be in play.

What do you expect from their third tier law school and the fourth tier, unethical lawyers it pumps out?

dawgoneyall
01-31-2016, 11:01 AM
4 years before 2012 would put the 2008 period in play..right?

Coach34
01-31-2016, 11:05 AM
SOL is a non-factor. May as well stand for shit out of luck

Political Hack
01-31-2016, 11:12 AM
Every single ounce of what Saunders did is under investigation. The statue of limitations does not apply to a systematic finding of academic fraud. Also, they keep screaming "it's old, really old, statute of limitations" while not realizing that there's an investigation into their recruiting practices for every single year under the freeze regime. Let me repeat that... The NCAA is looking into EVERY SINGLE CLASS under Freeze. They may not find something that'll stick in every class, but they're looking. The scope of this investigation from every angle (academic, recruiting violations, number of sports involved, coaches involved, administration involved, and the total number of years all this shit has been going on), is probably the largest investigation the NCAA has ever had to undertake. It's MASSIVE. Anyone with half a fart of a brain cell left knows that the NCAA is about hammer them.

Also, for some additional context, during the 2012 investigation at State, the NCAA had over 100 interviews looking into around a dozen players. Everyone thinks it centered on one kid. It didn't. They got enough details (most of which were wrong technically) on 1 player to levee sanctions. What in the Sam hell do they expect to happen with 30, across multiple sports, involving academic fraud, for numerous years, and DIRECT INVOLVEMENT by an Associate Athletics Director? It's going to be horrendous.

BSME04
01-31-2016, 01:36 PM
Wasn't Saunders not being hired to a full time position one of the main complaints about Boone by the Forward Rebel campaign? Also, I wonder what happened to all that money they raised...

TUSK
01-31-2016, 01:45 PM
As long as they don't have to rely on a Statue of James Meredith.

Day. Um.

edit: apparently the Rep Police are Dems.... Something about "spreading the Rep around"....

Political Hack
01-31-2016, 02:38 PM
Wasn't Saunders not being hired to a full time position one of the main complaints about Boone by the Forward Rebel campaign? Also, I wonder what happened to all that money they raised...

They quickly chose to take a less public role in forwarding their rebels.

blacklistedbully
01-31-2016, 03:41 PM
If any of the current UNM athletes were sent to Waynesboro to take advantage of the system Saunders clearly set up while at UNM, then the 4 year SOL goes out the window. b) Allegations in a case in which information is developed to indicate a pattern of willful violations on the part of the institution or individual involved, which began before but continued into the four-year period

Hasn't someone already confirmed there were current UNM players on the roster (Tony Conner?) that took the 360 mile trek to Waynesboro for no apparent good reason?

And that's not the only way the SOL can be set aside for UNM.

Dawgowar
01-31-2016, 03:47 PM
Also, they are shitheads, total shitheads. No statute or statue of limitations on that.