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ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 01:05 PM
Game Information
When: Tuesday, Jan. 26, 2016
Time: 6 p.m. CT
Location: Columbia, S.C.
Arena: Colonial Life Arena

TV: SECN
PxP: John Saunders
Analyst: John Sundvold
Sideline: Kaylee Hartung

MSU Radio Network:
PxP: Jim Ellis
Analyst: Richard Williams
Sirius/XM: 134/190


Series Information
Series: 18-11, MSU
Home: 9-3, MSU
Away: 7-6, MSU
Neutral: 2-2, Tied


Ben Howland vs. South Carolina: First meeting

Game Notes
http://www.hailstate.com/fls/16800/pdf/mbk/mbk_notes_012616.pdf


Live Stats
http://www.gamecocksonline.com/gametracker/launch/gt_mbaskbl.html?event=1451398&school=scar&sport=mbaskbl&camefrom=&startschool=&

Bet your Ass off link
http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?39928-MSU-at-South-Carolina-Basketball-(Tues-Jan-26)

WHAT TO NOTE AS MSU PLAYS SOUTH CAROLINA . . .
- South Carolina and Ole Miss are SEC teams MSU has a winning record against.
- Although the Gamecocks have won the last two meetings, the Bulldogs have won seven out of the last 10 overall and three out of the last five in Columbia.
- South Carolina is the only SEC team MSU has winning record against on the road.
- Speaking of road games, Mississippi State has lost all five this year and seven straight dating back
to last season. MSU?s last road win came at Missouri on 2-14-15.
- Four of the Bulldogs? five SEC losses have been by six points or less (combined 15 points, 3.0 average). All five losses have been by an average of 5.8 points.
- Against Ole Miss, freshman guard Malik Newman scored a career-high 25 points, with 20 coming in the second half. When he scores 20-plus points, MSU is 2-0 (20 vs. Northern Colorado).
- Malik Newman drained seven 3-pointers, the second most in school history. The record of eight is held by Winsome Frazier, Marckell Patterson, Antonio Jackson and Darryl Wilson.
- In just 17 games, Malik Newman has already drained 43 3-pointers. That?s currently the 6th most by an MSU freshman, while his 108 attempts rank 7th. His 13.4 average, second highest on the
team, ranks 6th all-time by a freshman in school history.
- Senior forward Gavin Ware leads the SEC and is 13th nationally with his .636 FG percentage.
- Gavin Ware has a player efficiency ranking of 31.22, which is 11th best nationally and second best in the SEC behind Ben Simmons of LSU (4th, 32.71).
- MSU?s 12 made 3-pointers against Ole Miss were the most this season.
- The Bulldogs are looking to snap a 12-game losing skid to ranked teams.

MSU BY THE NUMBERS
7 - MSU has shot 50 percent or better from the field 7 times year. It?s 6-1 in those games.
25 - MSU is 25th nationally in free throw percentage at .745 (234-314), tops in the SEC.
253 - In 32 games last year, MSU had just 278 assists. In 18 games this year, MSU has 253.

thf24
01-26-2016, 01:25 PM
Didn't Ravern have eight 3's in a game once?

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 01:26 PM
MSU Men's Basketball
‏@HailStateMBK
.@Ben_Howland showing em how the half court shot is done. #Swish #HailState


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/692044741010153473/pu/vid/720x1280/P6bunpZuTaaIA2hq.mp4

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 01:28 PM
Need to limit turnovers to have a chance. Turnovers have been the common denominator in our losses.

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 01:30 PM
Didn't Ravern have eight 3's in a game once?

7 - vs Troy and South Carolina his Senior Season.

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 01:45 PM
Need to limit turnovers to have a chance. Turnovers have been the common denominator in our losses.


Last 3 games have been a lot better. 32 To's compared to causing 33. The UM game was the first time we had double digit turnovers in the past 3 games.
USC has turned the ball over 45 times in that same period.

A comparison for the game tonight

USC 14.4 Turn overs per game 293 in the NCAA (15.8 in SEC only games)
MSU 12.4 Turn overs per game 123 in the NCAA (13.2 in SEC only Games)

Dawg61
01-26-2016, 02:01 PM
We have almost as many assists as all of last year already. That is an amazing stat.

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 02:21 PM
Malik is shooting 40% from 3. That IS his game. He is just slowly figuring out ways to get more looks from there. I know we want him to be a finisher at the basket but that's not going to be his strength. He's a lot more likely to get to the free throw line than finish at the rim at this point in his career, which is something he could also turn into a strength of his.

drunkernhelldawg
01-26-2016, 03:08 PM
Could be a big night for our program. Very close to getting this ship turned around.

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 03:23 PM
Last 3 games have been a lot better. 32 To's compared to causing 33. The UM game was the first time we had double digit turnovers in the past 3 games.
USC has turned the ball over 45 times in that same period.

A comparison for the game tonight

USC 14.4 Turn overs per game 293 in the NCAA (15.8 in SEC only games)
MSU 12.4 Turn overs per game 123 in the NCAA (13.2 in SEC only Games)

Surprising stats. Just seems like our turnovers come in clumps and at the worst times, being more impactful. Seems we will commit a handful within a couple minutes of actual clock time and allow the other team go on a large run. Makes them seem more in number than they actually are.

smootness
01-26-2016, 03:31 PM
I don't expect a win tonight. I realize we won and Malik played well so we're feeling good, but that was a seriously undermanned Ole Miss team that we had difficulty putting away. We're not a good team, and given the number of seniors we have, I don't see us suddenly turning a corner. I think we'll win 4 or 5 SEC games.

DAWGSUP
01-26-2016, 03:49 PM
The turnovers come mostly from Sword pressing. Everyone else handles the ball pretty well. If Malik and Q continue shooting well from 3 we might pull the upset

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 06:47 PM
It feels a little now like the monkey is off our back with that win. Hopefully we can play more loose tonight and it can serve us well when the game is on the line with a couple minutes to go.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 06:55 PM
I don't expect a win tonight. I realize we won and Malik played well so we're feeling good, but that was a seriously undermanned Ole Miss team that we had difficulty putting away. We're not a good team, and given the number of seniors we have, I don't see us suddenly turning a corner. I think we'll win 4 or 5 SEC games.

I disagree to a point. Sure, Ole Miss was undermanned but they played about as loose as you could and weren't expecting a win. We pressed early and you could tell that the losing streak was getting to our guys early which kept that game close. When we went on that 12-0 run, the game was basically over at that point. I expect us to give USC a good game tonight and if we steal a win we could go on a win streak with @Missouri and winnable home games. This team is a lot better then you think if we can just get out of our own way and learn to play better together. That has been the key and what has created the bad chemistry is some of our guys haven't accepted their roles totally on the team. When they have, we have played extremely well.

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 06:59 PM
It feels a little now like the monkey is off our back with that win. Hopefully we can play more loose tonight and it can serve us well when the game is on the line with a couple minutes to go.

I believe we have a decent chance also... Malik HAS To continue to hit the 3's and put up another 20+
Ware has to stay out of foul trouble tonight.

Cocks are good at drawing fouls looks like...

South Carolina ranks
6th nationally in free
throw attempts at a
total of 557 (29.3 per
game) this season.

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:01 PM
MSU Men's Basketball ‏@HailStateMBK 5m5 minutes ago
Step 1️⃣: @IjReady strikes a pose
Step 2️⃣: Bulldogs take the floor
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/692133590403018754/pu/vid/1280x720/-FX0pMvMSFVBXwzl.mp4

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:01 PM
MSU Men's Basketball ‏@HailStateMBK 13m13 minutes ago
Starters at South Carolina |
@IAM_QUINN4
@iammaliknewman
@Craigsword32_
@BigWare_20
@IjReady

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:06 PM
3 fouls already...

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:07 PM
Holman! Love that

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 07:10 PM
Good start so far. Need to keep pushing the ball up the floor and make their bigs run

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:12 PM
Horrific call on Ware

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 07:13 PM
Someone please explain how them jumping over ware's back is a foul on ware?

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:14 PM
Zuppardo is giving us nothing

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 07:14 PM
Pathetic call on aware! I liked Holmans energy. We cannot miss wide open shots!

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:16 PM
Daniels is scared to shoot

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:18 PM
They are playing extremely close man defense, gotta draw a bunch of fouls from that.

BulldogBacker
01-26-2016, 07:18 PM
Horrific call on Ware

Ware has played 3 minutes and has 2 fouls, so will sit most of the rest of the first half.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:19 PM
Ware has played 3 minutes and has 2 fouls, so will sit most of the rest of the first half.

And zuppardo is garbage, so we in trouble

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 07:21 PM
We are getting our usual treatment from the zebras. Does this happen on such a regular basis to any other team besides us?

And how is that not a flagrant on them?

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 07:22 PM
Refs are sucking it tonight. Amazing how that works. USC are a bunch of thugs.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:22 PM
We can't execute on offense. We aren't winning this... Their defense too good

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 07:23 PM
We have no flow offensively. Ready is not a leader. SC is suffiocating on D

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 07:23 PM
They are playing extremely close man defense, gotta draw a bunch of fouls from that.

Difficult to draw fouls when they are calling one way at the moment and we keep throwing it to the other team time and time again.

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:24 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZr6GN6WkAAZ8va.png:large

Big4Dawg
01-26-2016, 07:25 PM
Well no shit these refs are calling the game for USC. They are all buddy buddy with Martin

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 07:25 PM
We can't execute on offense. We aren't winning this... Their defense too good

Yep unless we start hitting jumpers and quick it's gonna be a long night. They're packing the paint and daring us to shoot

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:26 PM
MSU Men's Basketball ‏@HailStateMBK 15s15 seconds ago
.@Craigsword32_ drives to the basket and gets the layup and is fouled. Misses the FT but MSU within three, 12-9. #HailState

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 07:27 PM
Here comes the meltdown. Going to paint something again for some excitement tonight.

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:28 PM
Whoever is bringing the ball down the court can't hesitate, they've got to take it right past that first defender

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:30 PM
3 straight turnovers....

SHIT...7 possessions, 6 turnovers

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:30 PM
This is pathetic. South Carolina is putting a bigger man on ready and ready can't get by him... We have no other pg

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:32 PM
We may not score 30

Big4Dawg
01-26-2016, 07:32 PM
Wow - this is just bad. And no, that isn't a bigger man. That is just their huge PG.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:33 PM
Wow - this is just bad. And no, that isn't a bigger man. That is just their huge PG.

Their 6'6" pg

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:33 PM
Just hang on... keep it to no more than 10..;. the run will come

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 07:33 PM
We are getting called for everything and they are taking 5 steps. This one is over. Y'all go do something productive like start a bank account for "Forward Bulldogs." Seems to be an easy way to funnel money to recruits.

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:34 PM
Ready drains a 3..
Offensive foul on USC.. 20-12 usc

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:34 PM
Ready is owning number 1. Keep him in the game Martin.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:34 PM
Ready giving us something

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:34 PM
Weatherspoon drains another...14-20

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:35 PM
READY picks the piccckkknic basket... and easy layup
20-16

7-0 run 7:03

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:36 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZr9JdmWkAEPhZ-.png:large

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:38 PM
Holman needs to play more

ScoobaDawg
01-26-2016, 07:39 PM
FLOP....this refs suck so bad.. theres a reason whitehead is usually in the big12...

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:39 PM
HOLMAN, suck it haters

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:40 PM
Q!!!

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:41 PM
Q! SUCK IT SILVA

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 07:41 PM
These refs ****ing suck! Holman picked up the charge and they call it a block and they almost didn't. Call the mugging there.

CarolinaDawgs
01-26-2016, 07:41 PM
EAT SHIT SILVA!!!!!

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:42 PM
Daniels and zuppardo are swac quality

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 07:42 PM
And that BS call on Daniels

Jacksondevildog
01-26-2016, 07:43 PM
Have I mentioned how bad Thomas sucks?

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:43 PM
They've got some true pieces of shit on their team

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 07:44 PM
Can't wait till those pieces of shit go one and done and we beat the shit out of the cocks next year.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:44 PM
They've got some true pieces of shit on their team

And we have shit, period

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 07:45 PM
All we have to do is hang around and we will be fine. Their offense sucks ass (USC's).

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 07:47 PM
Daniels and zuppardo are swac quality

More like NAIA quality

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 07:47 PM
Wait? We do the exact same thing I one end that Malik was called for an offensive foul on the other end, but we get a block? Neither defenders were set and we get fouls on both plays. These f*cking referees are atrocious.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 07:48 PM
Wait? We do the exact same thing I one end that Malik was called for an offensive foul on the other end, but we get a block? Neither defenders were set and we get fouls on both plays. These f*cking referees are atrocious.

That's happened all year long.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 07:50 PM
Saunders is an asshole.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:51 PM
Every foul on South Carolina, the announcers disagree with

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:52 PM
We need to get this lead to around 6 by halftime

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:53 PM
In other news. The entire Oklahoma team is the Steph Curry of college basketball.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:55 PM
Terrible last min.

Red Sox Dawg
01-26-2016, 07:56 PM
Every foul on South Carolina, the announcers disagree with

And that SC euro fouled Sword twice on the same play

msstate7
01-26-2016, 07:57 PM
Firing stansbury put a curse on our program. Teams hit 3's at will and refs call fouls like crazy

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 07:57 PM
That was a 2 pointer to end the half.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 07:59 PM
Yeah, I will say this at least the refs are calling fouls on USC but the way those guys play the refs have to call fouls. They are like the modern day Pistons without Isiah Thomas or any good shooters. They are all a bunch of Bill Lambiers without skill and just the thug side.

Jacksondevildog
01-26-2016, 07:59 PM
Why do we cut the score close and Newman is on the bench? There's a lot of times where I feel like he needs to be on the floor and we will have Thomas or Daniels out there. And they don't bring shit to the equation.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:01 PM
Why do we cut the score close and Newman is on the bench? There's a lot of times where I feel like he needs to be on the floor and we will have Thomas or Daniels out there. And they don't bring shit to the equation.

2 fouls... I'd play him anyway, but that's why

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 08:01 PM
Malik with only 2 shots in the half is not going to get it done. Hope Howlands got a plan for the second half to get some more looks.

smootness
01-26-2016, 08:01 PM
Why do we cut the score close and Newman is on the bench? There's a lot of times where I feel like he needs to be on the floor and we will have Thomas or Daniels out there. And they don't bring shit to the equation.

He had 2 fouls.

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 08:03 PM
Difficult to watch these officials. Our turnovers on top of it make me want to grab my unopened bottle of Basil Hayden's and empty it as quick as possible.

Jacksondevildog
01-26-2016, 08:06 PM
I would rather risk playing him with two fouls then put the other guys in and watch the other team stretch out the lead.

CadaverDawg
01-26-2016, 08:06 PM
Won't win many road games with a shitty defense. 43 points in a half ain't gonna cut it

tcdog70
01-26-2016, 08:06 PM
For the good Ready does sometimes on offense, his defense is a killer. 6'6" vs 5'10". Sword got mugged a couple time and no call. Newman will have to get hot again.Plus the Ref have to get better for us to have a chance. We would be better off if IJ stayed on the bench.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:09 PM
Difficult to watch these officials. Our turnovers on top of it make me want to grab my unopened bottle of Basil Hayden's and empty it as quick as possible.

It's not our turnovers. They have a 29-13 edge on the glass and have been able to take 9 extra shots. They actually have one more turnover then us. 10-9. I think the reason you think we are turning it over more then we are is the cluster effect where we turned it over three straight possessions without taking a shot.

TheRef
01-26-2016, 08:09 PM
For the good Ready does sometimes on offense, his defense is a killer. 6'6" vs 5'10". Sword got mugged a couple time and no call. Newman will have to get hot again.Plus the Ref have to get better for us to have a chance. We would be better off if IJ stayed on the bench.

I'M DOING ALL I CAN.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:11 PM
For the good Ready does sometimes on offense, his defense is a killer. 6'6" vs 5'10". Sword got mugged a couple time and no call. Newman will have to get hot again.Plus the Ref have to get better for us to have a chance. We would be better off if IJ stayed on the bench.

The only problem with ready on the bench is we don't have anyone that can run the offense. Malik just passes the ball around the perimeter and we throw up a 3 with about 5 seconds on the shot clock

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:12 PM
On btw guys, Holman made a three. :)

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:19 PM
Can Saunders be a bigger asshole tonight? Usually, I like him but tonight A-1 grade asshole.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:20 PM
I'm looking forward to baseball season and senior night at the hump

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 08:20 PM
We need a hug! Or two feet to the ass!!!

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:20 PM
Won't win many road games with a shitty defense. 43 points in a half ain't gonna cut it

Have you watched the game or just looked at the stats? We are extremely limited tonight.

CadaverDawg
01-26-2016, 08:21 PM
IJ Ready pisses Gary Ervin off.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:21 PM
After Malik went to the point, we can't score. If an nba team is drafting him as a pg, he's a big project

CadaverDawg
01-26-2016, 08:21 PM
Have you watched the game or just looked at the stats? We are extremely limited tonight.

I'm watching the game. And our D sucks

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 08:24 PM
Saunders loves him some cocks!

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 08:25 PM
I'm watching the game. And our D sucks

I agree CD. At times our D is so lazy and we make stupid fouls so far away from the goal.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:28 PM
Just a combination of bad officiating, them getting away with over the back fouls, and our limitations we have talent wise. We have Newman, Q, and Holman. Ready is struggling today due to his size and Sword is playing with a partially torn ligament in his shoulder in his shooting shoulder none the less and he is playing because we don't have anyone better.

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 08:28 PM
South Carolina's help defensive is very solid. But they tend to over help. If our team had a hint of basketball IQ we could take advantage of that with driving and kicking and ball reversals. We have too many ball stoppers. Need to keep the ball moving

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:29 PM
5 fouls on 1 possession

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:30 PM
Wow, just wow. How the **** are you supposed to play defense? How?

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:31 PM
5 fouls on 1 possession

Those weren't fouls dude.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:31 PM
Ray ****ed us on our roster as well. That is why we are where we are.

djaymsu5
01-26-2016, 08:31 PM
This new foul rule sucks so bad! It's not even fun to watch. My God just let the kids play!

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 08:32 PM
Wow, just wow. How the **** are you supposed to play defense? How?

I'm starting to think officials have a severe hatred for Howland

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:32 PM
All these hack jobs officials are giving us is starting to piss me off at Howland. Howland need to go the F off on an official or in a postgame press conference

djaymsu5
01-26-2016, 08:33 PM
**ck Rick Ray!!! That is all

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:33 PM
I mean really when Daniels and Zuppado are your big time recruits you are not a good recruiter.

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 08:34 PM
I've never seen a more worthless group of seniors. I know they're tryin but geez

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 08:38 PM
Whoa!!! Howland sarcastically applauds the refs for finally getting us some calls. And we are right back in it.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:38 PM
I will say this. I have a heck of a lot of respect for Craig Sword. He is a warrior out there.

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 08:38 PM
**ck Rick Ray!!! That is all

I blame our administration. I know it was time for stans to go but how the Hell did we end up with Ray?

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 08:41 PM
I will say this. I have a heck of a lot of respect for Craig Sword. He is a warrior out there.

He is. He just does things that make me wonder if he's all there in the head.

djaymsu5
01-26-2016, 08:41 PM
I blame our administration. I know it was time for stans to go but how the Hell did we end up with Ray?

Beats the hell out of me

BeardoMSU
01-26-2016, 08:43 PM
These refs are ****ing atrocious.

Has that been mentioned yet?**

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:45 PM
Need to get ware a look here

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:49 PM
Carrera is beating us himself... Good grief

CadaverDawg
01-26-2016, 08:50 PM
A bunch of Seniors and we fall for every pump fake

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 08:51 PM
I'm really starting to hate Europe. Specifically Spain and the Baltic region

mic
01-26-2016, 08:51 PM
Once again Gavin with his lazy ass fouls...

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:53 PM
We're just a team that's good at keeping games close. We can't complete runs... Just get it close and then fall back again

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:55 PM
If Newman can start finishing drives, he's gonna be unbelievable

mic
01-26-2016, 08:57 PM
I agree we have the SEC "D" crew tonight..
These officials are a joke ..

Percho
01-26-2016, 08:57 PM
The dogs have shown great effort tonight.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 08:58 PM
We're just a team that's good at keeping games close. We can't complete runs... Just get it close and then fall back again

Again and again and again... Teams can score on us anytime they buckle down and decide to

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:58 PM
It's okay guys. Some of these games we come up short this year because our depth sucks, won't be a problem next year.

CarolinaDawgs
01-26-2016, 08:58 PM
What do ya know Chicken with another cramp

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 08:59 PM
Again and again and again... Teams can score on us anytime they buckle down and decide to

It's because we have bad bad depth. Look who we are having to play in the post.

msstate7
01-26-2016, 09:00 PM
31 f'n points for carerra

msstate7
01-26-2016, 09:03 PM
Ware has gotten fouled several times and no call

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:03 PM
That was a foul on Carera. Oh and guess what Carrera, you ain't sniffing the NBA.

CarolinaDawgs
01-26-2016, 09:04 PM
Every player thats good on the opposing teams circle us on their schedule and invites all their friends and family and simply says "career night"

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 09:04 PM
31 f'n points for carerra

He's a damn euro trash punk

Big4Dawg
01-26-2016, 09:04 PM
How was that not a foul when Ware was shooting?

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 09:06 PM
Yet Another opposing player having a career night against us. Maybe we can lay claim to that title, most games allowing opposing player to have a career evening against us.

If I had to select collegiate basketball players to enter a geometry competition, I wouldn't even look at our roster. Never seen players not have a clue where the rebound is going more times than when I watch us.

tcdog70
01-26-2016, 09:07 PM
Chicken is playing his ass off

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 09:08 PM
How was that not a foul when Ware was shooting?

Because we are MSU. He got hit by both defenders there and no call. Imagine that.

mic
01-26-2016, 09:08 PM
Says it all when the best basketball IQ on your team are 2 freshman..
When you roster is full of upperclassmen

RougeDawg
01-26-2016, 09:10 PM
Says it all when the best basketball IQ on your team are 2 freshman..
When you roster is full of upperclassmen

Yep and they had the ball kept from them early in the year from the same upperclassmen.

mic
01-26-2016, 09:11 PM
I would love to know just how in the hell Fred Thomas scored high school??.
It's not like he played against inferior competition every night in the Jackson metro area

msstate7
01-26-2016, 09:11 PM
After another disappointing loss, just thought I'd give you something to smile about...

Fred, Daniels, sword, ware, and zuppardo all leaving.

Stapleton, peters, carter, wright, kegler, herard, and ado coming in

This makes me happy

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:12 PM
Why are we fouling?

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:13 PM
We lose by 7 if we don't foul. Instead fouling got us a 10 point loss. Nice guys.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:16 PM
Holman by himself out scored Thomas, Daniels and Zuppado. That is why we lose close games. Depth sucks to high hell.

MadisonDawg
01-26-2016, 09:22 PM
He's a damn euro trash punk

He's from Venezuela, not that it makes a difference. Hate that guy regardless

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 09:23 PM
After another disappointing loss, just thought I'd give you something to smile about...

Fred, Daniels, sword, ware, and zuppardo all leaving.

Stapleton, peters, carter, wright, kegler, herard, and ado coming in

This makes me happy
yep! We'll be young but only get better as the season goes. These seniors have already reached their peak which was more of a foothill than a peak. And I think we're doin one of those over seas trips in the off season so that should give us a jump start on developing some chemistry

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 09:25 PM
He's from Venezuela, not that it makes a difference. Hate that guy regardless

My bad I thought he was from Spain. He's still a punk

Bucky Dog
01-26-2016, 09:25 PM
We lose by 7 if we don't foul. Instead fouling got us a 10 point loss. Nice guys.

And I was this close to taking tho Dogs +9!

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:29 PM
I think what kills our defense the most is Ware sucks something awful at it. He is flat out terrible. He doesn't understand when to front or when to back the guy down low. He doesn't understand basic man to man principals like switching and help side defense and he fouls a lot. He has also been a guy who has hurt us down the stretch because of foul trouble and thus not in the game when it counted.

RezDawg
01-26-2016, 09:30 PM
Not sure that Ware leaving is a good thing. Everyone else I agree

BeardoMSU
01-26-2016, 09:31 PM
After another disappointing loss, just thought I'd give you something to smile about...

Fred, Daniels, sword, ware, and zuppardo all leaving.

Stapleton, peters, carter, wright, kegler, herard, and ado coming in

This makes me happy

http://i.imgur.com/OQxg7ME.gif

msstate7
01-26-2016, 09:35 PM
Not sure that Ware leaving is a good thing. Everyone else I agree

He's a senior

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:38 PM
Not sure that Ware leaving is a good thing. Everyone else I agree

Zuppado is s senior as well.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 09:41 PM
Not sure that Ware leaving is a good thing. Everyone else I agree

Herard is a true back to the basket center. His floor is basically Ware right now with better hands, better passing ability, better defensive ability, and better post moves.

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 09:45 PM
Ware has been good for us this year but for a 260 pounder he gets out muscled on rebounds way too often

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 10:00 PM
Not sure that Ware leaving is a good thing. Everyone else I agree

No, it is time for Ware to leave too.

Oh and there was a reason no one else had offered Zuppardo except for Ray after watching him play in a couple JUCO games.

MarketingBully
01-26-2016, 10:06 PM
We should win Saturday against a hapless Missouri team. We then play at LSU which will be an L but we then will get three winnable games at home against Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, and Vanderbilt. If we keep fighting, we could be 5-7 or 6-7 and go on a mini-run. We need to get something out of Thomas, Zuppado, and Daniels. Holman is continuing to improve and I think the more minutes he continues to get the better he will get.

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 10:07 PM
No, it is time for Ware to leave too.

Oh and there was a reason no one else had offered Zuppardo except for Ray after watching him play in a couple JUCO games.

Yea ware's not getting any better. Can't teach an old dog new tricks. That goes for all our seniors. They are what they are. Thank them for their service and bring in some young talented blood

chef dixon
01-26-2016, 10:07 PM
It's a concentration issue with these upper classmen. There is some ability but the mental errors after 4 years is astonishing. No other D1 team plays like us in that regard. Teams may suck because they can't shoot, not athletic enough, etc but it doesn't look like a clown show for half the game. I mean hell every other 4 minutes we look like a pretty damn good team.

BayouDawg
01-26-2016, 10:10 PM
We should win Saturday against a hapless Missouri team. We then play at LSU which will be an L but we then will get three winnable games at home against Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, and Vanderbilt. If we keep fighting, we could be 5-7 or 6-7 and go on a mini-run. We need to get something out of Thomas, Zuppado, and Daniels. Holman is continuing to improve and I think the more minutes he continues to get the better he will get.

Yea we have a chance to keep this season from being a total shitstorm. If zup and Daniels could just be glass eaters that would help out a lot. Tell them not to shoot ever just out fight the other guy for the rebound and immediately pass it

MadisonDawg
01-26-2016, 10:17 PM
After another disappointing loss, just thought I'd give you something to smile about...

Fred, Daniels, sword, ware, and zuppardo all leaving.

Stapleton, peters, carter, wright, kegler, herard, and ado coming in

This makes me happy

Peters dropped 40 tonight with 12 3's.