Official UM at MSU Basketball Thread - Time to Show up and Get #1

[ScoobaDawg]

Game Information
When: Saturday, Jan. 23 2016
Time: 1 p.m. CT
Location: Starkville, Miss.
Arena: Humphrey Coliseum
TV: SECN
PxP: Matt Stewart
Analyst: John Pelphrey
MSU Radio Network:
PxP: Jim Ellis
Analyst: Richard Williams
Sirius/XM: 136/191

Game Notes
http://www.hailstate.com/fls/16800/pdf/mbk/mbk_notes_012316.pdf?&&&&&&&ATCLID=205324153&SPSID=90865&SPID=10994&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=16806

WatchESPN
http://es.pn/1nji6x4

Live Stats (not up yet.. hope this works)
http://www.hailstate.com/liveStats/liveStats.dbml?SPSID=90866&SPID=10994&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=16800&LIST_SPORT_KEY=M_BASKETBALL

Bet your ass link
http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?39834-UM-at-MSU-Basketball-Sat-Jan-23

Series Information
Series: 141-111, MSU
Home: 93-25, MSU
Away: 81-43, Ole Miss
Neutral: 5-5, Tied
Last Meeting: 71-65, Ole Miss (2-19-15)
Mississippi State Coach: Ben Howland
MSU Record: 7-10, 1st year
Career Record: 408-216, 20th year
vs. Ole Miss: First meeting
Ole Miss Coach: Andy Kennedy
Ole Miss Record: 204-120, 10th year
Career Record: 225-133, 11th year

Mississippi State hasn?t started SEC play 0-6 since losing its first seven in 1985-86 in Bob Boyd?s
last year at the helm.
The Rebels have won four straight against the Bulldogs overall, but haven?t won five straight since
winning eight in a row from 1980-1983.
MSU and UM are meeting for the 252nd time. It?s the oldest rivalry in the SEC.
The 141 wins for MSU are the most against any team the Bulldogs have played.
At the Hump, the Bulldogs have won 15 out of the last 17. Overall in this series, MSU has won 23
out of the last 35.
Mississippi State hasn?t lost back-to-back games to Ole Miss at Humphrey Coliseum since losing
four in a row from 1980-83.
Although the Bulldogs are winless in league play, four of their losses have been by six points or
less (combined 15 points, 3.0 average). All five losses have been by an average of 5.8 points.
Gavin Ware?s streak of consecutive games scoring in double-digits ended at 15 at Florida.
Against the Gators, junior guard I.J. Ready scored 20 points, marking the second time this season
he?s scored 20-plus points. He had 25 against Eastern Washington.
In just 16 games, Malik Newman has already drained 36 3-pointers. That?s currently the 7th most
by an MSU freshman, while his 97 attempts rank 8th. His 12.6 average, second highest on the
team, ranks 6th all-time by a freshman in school history.
Senior guard Fred Thomas is now just 35 points shy of 1,000 for his career.
Gavin Ware has a player efficiency ranking of 31.93, which is seventh best nationally and second
best in the SEC behind Ben Simmons of LSU (4th, 32.52).

12 ? Gavin Ware is 12th nationally in field goal percentage at .636 (112-176), tops in the SEC.
35 ? MSU is 35th nationally in free throw percentage at .737 (219-297), tops in the SEC.
72 ? I.J. Ready is 72th nationally with his 2.55 assist-turnover ratio.

[ScoobaDawg]

‏@Ben_Howland
We need the student section PACKED tomorrow for our game against Ole Miss. First 1,000 will get a free t-shirt!!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZXGdRvWwAAC3bR.jpg

[ScoobaDawg]

Ill be on the road to Louisana during the game.. yall pull the win out.

[Dawg61]

I really can't believe Fred Thomas only needs 35 points to have 1,000 for his career. Watch him finish with 999.

[confucius say]

We are the better team. Mississippi is fortunate to be 2-4 in sec, could easily be 0-6. We win.

[msstate7]

Need ware to give us a double double today with points around 20

[MetEdDawg]

I don't know about you guys, but I get the feeling if we can break through and get a win today that it might be the start of a run through the end of the season.

We are not a great team by any stretch, but I do think we are pretty decent and that our record doesn't reflect how good we truly are.. We are going to be a tough out in the tournament and I think this team is good enough to finish strong. Anyone else agree?

[msstate7]

I don't know about you guys, but I get the feeling if we can break through and get a win today that it might be the start of a run through the end of the season.

We are not a great team by any stretch, but I do think we are pretty decent and that our record doesn't reflect how good we truly are.. We are going to be a tough out in the tournament and I think this team is good enough to finish strong. Anyone else agree?

Be tough to build momentum with a trip to South Carolina next

[MetEdDawg]

Be tough to build momentum with a trip to South Carolina next

True. But we could have beaten Kentucky in Rupp. Whether they overlooked us or not, it's a game we could have won. Think we might could take SC too.

[mic]

Need ware to give us a double double today with points around 20

We need Ware to play more than 20 minutes...
Stay out of foul trouble...

[confucius say]

Is moody playing or no?

[thf24]

"The Rebels have won four straight against the Bulldogs overall, but haven?t won five straight since
winning eight in a row from 1980-1983."

Damn, didn't realize we'd gotten swept two years in a row. Thought we'd gotten one in 2014. Come on Howland.

[msstate7]

Is moody playing or no?

Rebs I know say game time decision

[messageboardsuperhero]

"The Rebels have won four straight against the Bulldogs overall, but haven?t won five straight since
winning eight in a row from 1980-1983."

Damn, didn't realize we'd gotten swept two years in a row. Thought we'd gotten one in 2014. Come on Howland.

We did beat them once at home in 14- but they won at their place then beat us in the sec tourney. Then of course they swept last year.

[thf24]

Rebs I know say game time decision

I'm sure he'll be limited even if he plays, and it seems like hamstrings always get re-aggravated if the player plays this soon after the initial injury. We really need to step up and take this one.


We did beat them once at home in 14- but they won't at their place then beat us in the sec tourney. Then of course they swept last year.

That's right, forgot we played them in the tournament that year.

[msstate7]

I'm sure he'll be limited even if he plays, and it seems like hamstrings always get re-aggravated if the player plays this soon after the initial injury. We really need to step up and take this one.



That's right, forgot we played them in the tournament that year.

I agree. Even if moody plays, he won't be near as explosive jumping or as fast running. I think he'll be relegated to a spot up shooter from the perimeter

[LeakyD]

Game went from offline to State -6. Makes me think Moody is not playing. Expected -2 to + 2.

[Political Hack]

Thanks Scoob. Love that we've beaten OM more than any other team ever. We own them.

It'll also be nice getting our first SEC win against them. Maybe that Dick that works with Wyatt will have to eat his words about Malik come Monday morning.

[MarketingBully]

Man, we really needed to beat Tennessee and take advantage and beat A&M. We were right there for both...

[MarketingBully]

And I still say if Moore played against us for Tennessee, we win easily. They're not even shooting threes today at all against South Carolina.

[MarketingBully]

In this game, I'd like to see both Q and Newman go off in this game and both score 20+. I'd like to see Ware get a double double something like 15/10. If those things happen, we win easily.

[msstate7]

In this game, I'd like to see both Q and Newman go off in this game and both score 20+. I'd like to see Ware get a double double something like 15/10. If those things happen, we win easily.

Watch sword... He seems to always show up vs Rebs

[C222]

No Moody. If we lose, I'm done.

[spiritual_machine2005]

No Moody, no Siaz, no Newby. No excuses. Just win dammit!

[MarketingBully]

Yeah, for all intents and purposes this should be a blow out. We should win by 20+ with all of the people they will have out.

[Schultzy]

One point win would make me just as happy. Moody not dressed.

[MarketingBully]

South Carolina is a terrible offensive team. We should be in it in that game as well. If we win today, I predict an upset in Columbia on Tuesday.

[BeardoMSU]

South Carolina is a terrible offensive team. We should be in it in that game as well. If we win today, I predict an upset in Columbia on Tuesday.

But their defense/press is going to make our ball handlers look like Simple Jacks.

[MarketingBully]

We should have more fans there IMO.

[MarketingBully]

We play down to our competition. We need to settle down and take control of this game.

[MarketingBully]

We need to quit pressing and run our damn offense!

[MarketingBully]

Ready is killing us this game.

[Percho]

Ready is killing us this game.

Why because he shot a ball he had to shoot?

[preachermatt83]

Spoon and Newman are good defensively.

[MarketingBully]

You can tell the losing streak is effecting the crap out of us. We are trying too hard and not running our offense at all. The players Ole Miss has out there are terrible. This should be a blow out.

[MarketingBully]

This is how we should be playing. :)

[Goldendawg]

Like the uni's. move on offense. Get Ware the ball inside. We should have no trouble with any SEC team with 3 starters out.

[MarketingBully]

We got complacent and let Ole Miss back in the game. This team has too many seniors used to losing.

[preachermatt83]

That run by OM was Bc ware and newman were both not on the floor.

[MarketingBully]

That run by OM was Bc ware and newman were both not on the floor.

Stupid sub pattern on Howland there. Luckily Ready is on the bench right now. Wouldn't surprise me if we go on an extended run right here.

[MarketingBully]

We are playing like shit.

[MarketingBully]

What did we do to prepare for this game? This is rediculous!!!!!

[msstate7]

We are playing like shit.

Well that's what we are to be honest

[RougeDawg]

Holy shit this is pathetic and reaffirms why I don't plan my day/evening around MSU bball. I could take a quarter mile stroll down any street in Nola and pick 5 random people off of their porches and run this team out of the hump. Beyond pathetic. If this our effort and team we should shut down the rest of the season and save everyone the shame.

[MarketingBully]

Ready is killing us too. And we have a ton of careless careless turnovers keeping them in it.

[MarketingBully]

Sword turning it over like only Sword does.

[starkvegasdawg]

What did we do to prepare for this game? This is rediculous!!!!!
Practiced bad passes.

[RougeDawg]

I'm going to go paint something so I can get more excitement watching it dry, than I am with this game.

[MarketingBully]

Anyone we play is going to have a career day in threes!!!!!!!

[MarketingBully]

What is our problem???? Our seniors suck bad!!!!!

[Goldendawg]

Our talent level is pathetic. We don't have four guys that could make another SEC team and fewer that could start. We have no go to players. We sure know where to stand on offense.

[RougeDawg]

How can we not find someone open under the basket when they are triple teaming sword at half court? This team would be beat last year's team.

Ware has grown stone hands today. Pitiful.

[starkvegasdawg]

Nice way to end a half.

[RougeDawg]

Only player who may be one and done on this team is Spoon. Don't even try to argue that.

[msstate7]

Q is better than Malik, period

[klong-dog]

Our Seniors get worse year by year, game by game. Unbelievable how bad they are. They'd average 5 turnovers a piece if it were just them on the court.

[msstate7]

Hopefully being down 3 players with have om tired in the 2nd half

[HSVDawg]

Q is better than Malik, period

No question about it.

[Political Hack]

Played awful and only down 2. That's good. We'll win this game in the 2nd half. I fully expect Howland to outclass AK in the next 20 minutes.

[klong-dog]

Ware is clueless as always. He can't figure out how to play against an extra man. Puts the ball down on the floor way too much. He has no common sense.

[MarketingBully]

Hopefully that is a wake up call and we come out in the second half and blow them out. I hated our effort that first half. If we can cut down on turnovers in the second half, we can win comfortably. Only reason why Ole Miss is in this game is turnovers.

[MarketingBully]

Q is a bad ass and a great piece to build off of next year.

[MarketingBully]

Our team deserves a chewing after that effort. Hopefully Howland is giving them a chewing at halftime.

[msudawg1200]

Three things from the 1st half:
1. Why and how do teams keep burying Three's against us? Are we snakebit? Is our D just garbage? Are the other teams just great shooters? It bewilders me how all these terrible shooting teams seem to make 10-12 3's or more against us.
2. Weatherspoon is the man.
3. These announcers want to have a three-way with Andy Kennedy. I think I'll mute the 2nd half.

[C222]

Three things from the 1st half:
1. Why and how do teams keep burying Three's against us? Are we snakebit? Is our D just garbage? Are the other teams just great shooters? It bewilders me how all these terrible shooting teams seem to make 10-12 3's or more against us.
2. Weatherspoon is the man.
3. These announcers want to have a three-way with Andy Kennedy. I think I'll mute the 2nd half.

Perimeter D is awful

[MarketingBully]

Well, we get the ball to start the second half and hopefully we come out attacking both offensively and defensively. Attack the post and get those guys in foul trouble and just rebound after they miss.

[Bothrops]

If Moody was playing we'd be down at least 10-12. This shit is scaring me now.

[msstate7]

Malik can't finish

[msstate7]

Ridiculous foul by ware. This team is awful

[defiantdog]

Malik can't finish

He can't really shoot today either. 2 for 9 with 8 points.... is the toe still an issue?

[klong-dog]

I like it much better though. Having tough luck but looks so good getting to the hoop.

[CadaverDawg]

We suck

[ScottH]

Three things from the 1st half:
3. These announcers want to have a three-way with Andy Kennedy.

Has he regained his consortium ability?

[Liverpooldawg]

If they had all their starters we are down by 20+.

[msstate7]

He can't really shoot today either. 2 for 9 with 8 points.... is the toe still an issue?

I think the issue is he was severely overrated. He's good, but 1-and-done... Lol

[MarketingBully]

I guess the refs are going to swallow their whistles here. Fouls galore on Ole Miss' defense which really is basically grabbing our guys...

[klong-dog]

Ware, Sword, Thomas, Ready are depressing to watch. Lol won't even mention zapardo.

[C222]

I've never been as frustrated watching a game as I am now.

[Liverpooldawg]

I'm going to revise my opinion about us only having two real players. We only have one.

[MarketingBully]

If we lose here, 0-18 is a real possibility.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Inexcusable. This is the biggest bunch of losers I've ever seen step foot on a basketball court.

[messageboardsuperhero]

If we lose here, 0-18 is a real possibility.

Absolutely it is.

[the59dawg]

Sword is just a turnover machine. Needs to sit.

[klong-dog]

What the **** are you doing Ready??? You short stupid pos

[CadaverDawg]

Ready pisses me off so bad

[defiantdog]

When was the last time Newman pushed to make an offensive rebound? And Q may be a one and done how he's been carrying this team as of late.

[msstate7]

If we lose today, I'll be pissed if we don't start Malik, Q, and Holman from here out. If an upperclassman doesn't like it, bye

[MarketingBully]

Yeah, the upperclassman attitude on this team has really shaped the loser mentality.

[ScottH]

I think the issue is he was severely overrated.

There was a hoops guy on one of the national high school MLK games this week addressing that topic. Not just Malik but the freshman class in general. Said it was a down class. Other than 2 there really weren't any traditional one and dones as compared to other years.

Said no. 10 or so in last years class isn't top 30 in other years as an example.

Whether true or not it was interesting thesis.

Said next year is deep class. And we have 6 of them. Mentioned MSU specifically.

[smootness]

0-18? Weatherspoon a 1-and-done? Obviously we're not good, but calm down, people.

[defiantdog]

If we lose today, I'll be pissed if we don't start Malik, Q, and Holman from here out. If an upperclassman doesn't like it, bye

We need to go ahead and tell Ready to transfer. He wouldn't start for an all girls catholic middle school how he's playing.

[CadaverDawg]

Newman heating up

[CadaverDawg]

Dammit Chicken. Stupid stupid foul

[defiantdog]

0-18? Weatherspoon a 1-and-done? Obviously we're not good, but calm down, people.

I meant that Q is playing like the one and done player on the team right now.... not Newman.

[msstate7]

Newman heating up

He heard me**

[CadaverDawg]

Newman & Q with 32 out of 52 points.

[MarketingBully]

0-18? Weatherspoon a 1-and-done? Obviously we're not good, but calm down, people.

If you can't beat a gimped Ole Miss team at home, who would we have beaten. Luckily, we have stopped turning it over and are forcing them to score out of their half court sets. We need this win to have any chance at anything this season.

[defiantdog]

Newman & Q with 32 out of 52 points.

Hey, Fred Thomas made his first 3 pointer since his freshmen year ***********

[smootness]

If you can't beat a gimped Ole Miss team at home, who would we have beaten. Luckily, we have stopped turning it over and are forcing them to score out of their half court sets. We need this win to have any chance at anything this season.

Sure we should win this game, but anyone who's followed our season would know 0-18 is essentially an impossibility.

[klong-dog]

Sword the turnover machine is going bonkers with TO's.

[CadaverDawg]

Thug U

[CadaverDawg]

Our defense is pure trash

[CadaverDawg]

3 on 1 & we shoot a 3

[defiantdog]

Newman must have read our posts ***********

[defiantdog]

3 on 1 & we shoot a 3

We were playing the odds ***********

[rolodawg]

Score?

[CadaverDawg]

Score?

62-59 State

[defiantdog]

Score?

62 - 59 State.... Q with 18 and Newman with 19

[klong-dog]

Malik talking shit after the 3. I like it.

[mstatefan91]

I see Malik is finally out there playing his game, trash talk and all. Wish that had been here all season.

[klong-dog]

I hope this is his turn around game but then again, this season is an abortion and I want him back next year.

[CadaverDawg]

Newman looks like he's showing some swagger now that he's pissed. Been waiting on that. He plays too nice. Play like you're the best on the court, bc you are. I wanna see this Newman the rest of the year

[CadaverDawg]

I see Malik is finally out there playing his game, trash talk and all. Wish that had been here all season.

Ha, beat me to it. +1

[msstate7]

Assist to TO ratio is 1:1 right now... We get that on the plus side fo assists and we'll win

[CadaverDawg]

I hope this is his turn around game but then again, this season is an abortion and I want him back next year.

He's gone regardless, so cheer for him to dominate

[CadaverDawg]

Sword is great on the drive. Needs to do it more

[CadaverDawg]

Newman is en fuego

[starkvegasdawg]

Come on Ready. One more foul.

[klong-dog]

Ready working it down to ware results in what? Of course a turnover

[mstatefan91]

Come on guys, just f*cking win!

[CadaverDawg]

Attaboy Gavin

[klong-dog]

Finish these lame ****s off

[CadaverDawg]

Come on guys, just f*cking win!

Yep. Get it, guys!

[thf24]

Wait, but I thought Malik wasn't a great outside threat???

[CadaverDawg]

Finish these ****ERS!!

[starkvegasdawg]

Bears may be on verge of losing composure.

[CadaverDawg]

Wait, but I thought Malik wasn't a great outside threat???

He's a beast. Anybody that doesn't agree is crazy

[mstatefan91]

Nice shot Thomas

[CadaverDawg]

Freddie T!

[mstatefan91]

Can we finally beat those f*ckers in a men's sport? I don't give a flying f*ck if they are missing everyone. I just want to beat those f*ckers!

[klong-dog]

The last 10 mins is more of what I expected all year. :(

[CadaverDawg]

Come on, guys. We have to finish this one off. Lose an 11 point lead with <4:00 to these dipshits would be about as bad as it gets

[mstatefan91]

Why are these idiot announcers highlighting an OM offensive play? Do they not see the scoreboard? Good gracious.

[klong-dog]

And OM I think has actually played over their heads with the players they do have.

[CadaverDawg]

BULL SHIT, ref

[mstatefan91]

Come on Newman, get those 5 more.

[CadaverDawg]

75-65 Dawgs with 2:50 left.

[msstate7]

21 ft's to our 11

[CadaverDawg]

Nice job, Chicken

[starkvegasdawg]

Tsun made 18 FT's. We've shot 13 now.

[CadaverDawg]

Damn it

[starkvegasdawg]

Two easy layups.

[mstatefan91]

What in the f*ck?! What foul?!

[CadaverDawg]

What the ****? That should have been a jump ball! We're going to **** around and lose

[starkvegasdawg]

One more bucket we've got it.

[mstatefan91]

I'm going to have to mute these idiot announcers. They are almost praying for a comeback.

[BeardoMSU]

It'll be nice to get this first conference win, especially over those ****ers, but I'd hate to see the outcome if they were full strength....as easy as these scrub guards are driving on us, we better hope Moody is still out next time we meet.

[CadaverDawg]

Ready pisses me off, but those were huge free throws

[CadaverDawg]

Unreal how shots like that go in against us every game

[starkvegasdawg]

And tsun makes their 85th three pointer.

[BeardoMSU]

I'm going to have to mute these idiot announcers. They are almost praying for a comeback.

They're pretty insufferable.

[CadaverDawg]

If that doesn't fall it's over...but that damn rainmaker drops

[BeardoMSU]

Nice circus shot, IJ.....**** sake.

[mstatefan91]

F*cking Ready!

Gavin!!!!!

[CadaverDawg]

IJ tried to lose it for us, but couldnt

[msstate7]

Took long enough to get a win, but they picked a good team to get it against

[CadaverDawg]

Get used to this, Randy....you'll get us in Oxford this year, but that's it for a while

[MarketingBully]

The refs do job us on fouls. How are other teams able to get away with being more physical then us and we get more fouls called on us? That is the biggest bullshit of the season so far.

[Westdawg]

So did we win? Traveling today and can't get game on radio

[CadaverDawg]

The refs do job us on fouls. How are other teams able to get away with being more physical then us and we get more fouls called on us? That is the biggest bullshit of the season so far.

Bc other teams are physical but move their feet, we aren't in position while being physical.

My opinion

[mstatefan91]

These announcers are full on stupid.

[BeardoMSU]

IJ tried to lose it for us, but couldnt

He's the best dribbler I seen since Joe Montana***

[CadaverDawg]

83-77 w/3 seconds left

[CadaverDawg]

Dawgs win! Good job, guys

[mstatefan91]

We beat them in a big 3 sport! F*cking finally!

[OurState]

So did we win? Traveling today and can't get game on radio

We are about to.

It took too danm long and was embarrassingly close.

[Treemydawg]

He's the best dribbler I seen since Joe Montana***

Joe Montana was a QB you crazy asshole.

[MarketingBully]

Bc other teams are physical but move their feet, we aren't in position while being physical.

My opinion

From what I could see, we play the same way as the other teams. IMO, it's the facade of fouling and so refs look at us more then the other team. Howland doesn't seem to complain regarding it so they keep it up. Florida got away with murdering us with their defense and were able to jump over our backs to get offensive rebounds which was the difference in that game. They also called fouls away from the ball (bullshit in every since of the word) and that was a big difference as well. Not a single off the ball foul was called in today's game and that is the way it should be.

[BossDawg]

I'm hoping this might get the team over the hump. Hopefully they're starting to figure out how to finish games.

[msstate7]

As much as I dislike ready, we need Malik and the 2. We're much better offensively when Malik isn't at the point

[MarketingBully]

Difference in this game was Newman hit shots like we knew he could. If he does that to start SEC play instead of right now, our record is easily 4-2 right now instead of 1-5 with wins over A&M, Tennessee, and Florida.

[the59dawg]

Come on guys, just f*cking win!

Ware has awful hands. Doesn't help when he gets the ball to hold it low or try to bounce it to go up.

[mstatefan91]

Ware has awful hands. Doesn't help when he gets the ball to hold it low or try to bounce it to go up.

Did you quote the right person here?

[MarketingBully]

We've got to find a way to improve by 1000% our perimeter defense. This is getting nauseating when even shitty three point shooting teams can make three pointers on us. Ole Miss' three point shooting and our turnovers were the only reasons why they even had a chance in the end.

[BullDog]

Please stop the stupidity. IJ is a good point guard

[tcdog70]

It helps if Ware doesn't foul out

[Liverpooldawg]

Bc other teams are physical but move their feet, we aren't in position while being physical.

My opinion

That's exactly right and there are two reasons for it in my opinion. When you aren't as talented as the guy you are guarding you find yourself out of position a lot. They were allowed to get away with it by the previous regime FAR too much. In fairness the previous regime had no choice to let them. Howland doesn't have much of one either, YET.

[BeardoMSU]

Please stop the stupidity. IJ is a good point guard

You and I differ greatly in our definition of the word "good", then.

[klong-dog]

I actually thought OM played over their heads for the most part.

[the59dawg]

As much as I dislike ready, we need Malik and the 2. We're much better offensively when Malik isn't at the point

This+. Ready helps Newman be better. When he was out with 3 fouls in 1st half, Newman did nothing. Newman does not play the point well at all and we flounder when he is point. Also notice Ready broke the OM press and was able to get the ball up the floor in the last few minutes. That was critical.

[the59dawg]

It helps if Ware doesn't foul out

We can't win w/o Ware in the game. When he gets 2 early fouls, game over.

[C222]

Anyone still think a team wouldn't take Malik in the 1st round?

[defiantdog]

Please stop the stupidity. IJ is a good point guard

I thought you got banned a long time ago....

1-02-2015:

Originally Posted by BullDog View Post

Typical MSU redneck ignorance. It's a shame the silent majority of fans have to suffer phuks like you.


This is the most appropriate post I've seen on an MSU sight. THE CULTURE OF LOSING IS A BIG DEVASTATING PSYCHOLOGICAL HURDEL. GO elites go!!!!

[msstate7]

Anyone still think a team wouldn't take Malik in the 1st round?

He certainly has a nice stroke. If a team is looking for him to play the point though, Malik is certainly a project

[state66]

Malik is still just a shooter. Once he put it all together and starts finishing on his drives hes going to be hell. He cant live and die by the long ball. Weve seen him try and live by the long ball through the first 6 games of conference play.

[Intramural All-American]

Anyone still think a team wouldn't take Malik in the 1st round?

Not saying they wont, but one game does not do anything. He needs consistency. His performance today was nothing compared to what shan foster did to us, and he was a 2nd round pick with much better size.

[confucius say]

Ready is not great by any means, but he gets more blame on this board than he should. He does a lot of good.

Just reading through this thread, I would have thought we were getting blown out.

Mississippi shot the ball well today. Played over their collective heads offensively.

Team is playing hard. Good to see. Should have a shot in two road games this coming week.

[Jacksondevildog]

We will lose at South Carolina. We will have a chance at Missouri

[confucius say]

We will lose at South Carolina. We will have a chance at Missouri

We may lose at USCe, but don't be fooled by their record. They are not that good. They have more depth than us but their starting five is not any better than our starting five.

[MarketingBully]

We will lose at South Carolina. We will have a chance at Missouri

Their offense is terrible. If we can scrore in the 70's, we win.

[Jacksondevildog]

We are 1-5 and barely beat an injured UM team. I don't have much confidence in us winning in the road. I hope I'm wrong.

[confucius say]

We are 1-5 and barely beat an injured UM team. I don't have much confidence in us winning in the road. I hope I'm wrong.

Fair. But we lost at Ky and fla in nail biters, and USCe is not as good as either of those two.

[TXDawg]

Ware has awful hands. Doesn't help when he gets the ball to hold it low or try to bounce it to go up.

The main problem I saw today was that our entry passes were consistently at his shins. You can't throw bounce passes to a big man and expect good results.

[TXDawg]

Malik is still just a shooter. Once he put it all together and starts finishing on his drives hes going to be hell. He cant live and die by the long ball. Weve seen him try and live by the long ball through the first 6 games of conference play.

This, all day long. He had at least four dribble drives that gave him decent looks at the rim today and he didn't finish any of them. He's got to start making those or at least drawing fouls. Hopefully his break-out game from beyond the arc today will help boost his confidence and he'll start making some of those layups.

[CadaverDawg]

Ready is not great by any means, but he gets more blame on this board than he should. He does a lot of good.

Just reading through this thread, I would have thought we were getting blown out.

Mississippi shot the ball well today. Played over their collective heads offensively.

Team is playing hard. Good to see. Should have a shot in two road games this coming week.

I don't disagree with you, but at some point when every team "plays over their heads" against us, it's just that our defense is shit, we don't get a hand in anyone's face when they shoot, and we're sloppy with the ball.

[BayouDawg]

I don't disagree with you, but at some point when every team "plays over their heads" against us, it's just that our defense is shit, we don't get a hand in anyone's face when they shoot, and we're sloppy with the ball.

Yep a lot of the problem is that when we help on defense we're either late with the help or we over help and don't get back to the man leading to a wide open 3. I noticed this in rays first exhibition game in 2012. And it's still a lingering problem. But definitely a great win today for the dogs

[the59dawg]

Did you quote the right person here?

Yep. Watch closer when it is crowded aroiund the basket and he get the inbound pass. Watch how much the ball get knocked loose from him.

[the59dawg]

Please stop the stupidity. IJ is a good point guard

Agree. we are a better offensive team when IJ is at point. Mainly because Malik is better when IJ is at point. MN is very active and gets better open shots. IJ had 5 assists and Malik shoots 7-10 3's

[mstatefan91]

Yep. Watch closer when it is crowded aroiund the basket and he get the inbound pass. Watch how much the ball get knocked loose from him.

That makes no sense? My post was this: "Come on guys, just f*cking win!"

How in the world did that post have anything to do with Ware and hand position?

Btw, I don't disagree with what you are saying. I just don't know why it's directed at me.

[MaxedOutMaroon]

Lets get it straight, IJ had a terrible first half. And a good second half overall.

[MarketingBully]

Lets get it straight, IJ had a terrible first half. And a good second half overall.

I'd agree with that and if he wants a spot on next year's team, he needs to be a pass first shoot second point guard. He has to create for the shooters and Ware down low. If he does that, he can be a good PG for us next year and help us get to 500 the rest of the way this year.

[Schultzy]

Some dude sitting in the 3rd row directly behind the UNM bench wore his Valparaiso shirt today.

[BeardoMSU]

Some dude sitting in the 3rd row directly behind the UNM bench wore his Valparaiso shirt today.

That is awesome, haha.