Dear Clarion Ledger....

[Coach34]

You can file your FOIA request again.

It's Coming

[Political Hack]

Ruh roh shaggy.

[gravedigger]

You can file your FOIA request again.

It's Coming

So its not coming, its already here, right.

[Op4isabitch]

Oh hell yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaa,

Getting my pop kern ready.

[BeardoMSU]

http://i.imgur.com/xeB8flF.gif

[Coursesuper]

You can file your FOIA request again.

It's Coming

They didn't retain another outside law firm for nothing.

[I seen it dawg]

NCAA to OM

[turkish]

I thought they'd already gotten one of those.

[GreenheadDawg]

NCAA to OM

Rep points awarded!!

[Goldendawg]

So if this is true, what keeps their top 10 recruiting class in place? Downplay charges, pure out lie, or the Network stays in denial and spreads even more illegal benefits? Maybe a combination of all three.

[Harrydawg]

The campus may be so beautiful that nothing else matters.......

We are about to find out how pretty it is...

[raymond21]

Believe it when I see it. Been hearing it's coming for over a decade

[Statefan]

NCAA to OM

Trying not to get my hopes up, but you do have a really good track record....

[Mjoelner34]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee175/tflynt66/TSUNami2_zpsa2jg67cc.jpg

[Dawgbite]

To believe it, I gotta see it somewhere other than a message board!

[CadaverDawg]

NCAA to OM

https://38.media.tumblr.com/c26b20d3523d58572c00a59fabfc6650/tumblr_mtzmeqC16Z1qcga5ro1_500.gif

[Political Hack]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

[Statefan]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

That's exactly what they will do -- but that might bring about an even worse media fallout

[Dawgface]

So if this is true, what keeps their top 10 recruiting class in place? Downplay charges, pure out lie, or the Network stays in denial and spreads even more illegal benefits? Maybe a combination of all three.

All of the above.

[raymond21]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

If true, they will tie it up in the legal system for years. I'm telling you, I've heard over the last two months that tomorrow is the day , tomorrow is the day and nothing ever happens. Again, I don' believe any of this until or unless there is some documented proof

[Op4isabitch]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

That's exactly what they'll do, wouldn't expect any less. They don't care about the individual, see all the kids they've discarded. Douchbag Head Coach and even bigger douch for an A.D.

[Coach34]

If true, they will tie it up in the legal system for years. I'm telling you, I've heard over the last two months that tomorrow is the day , tomorrow is the day and nothing ever happens. Again, I don' believe any of this until or unless there is some documented proof

You need to stay on Elite more then- because this is the 1st time we have told the C-L to file a request.

We have maintained there is an investigation- and that is a well-known fact
We maintained that Tunsil would sit- when all the OM talking heads said he wouldnt- He sat 7 games

Keep the number 30 in mind

[Coursesuper]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

Why would they not, the players are no more to the than the paid help. It's not about the players, and what those coaches don't understand is they are expendable also. The coaches and players are all just pawns in these lowlife culls games. It's all about proving mine is bigger than yours and I kicked you ass this year. They don't care who gets burned in short term as long as they make them look good in their own little world.

[SDDawg]

You need to stay on Elite more then- because this is the 1st time we have told the C-L to file a request.

We have maintained there is an investigation- and that is a well-known fact
We maintained that Tunsil would sit- when all the OM talking heads said he wouldnt- He sat 7 games

Keep the number 30 in mind

So may great opportunities for the number 30:

- 30 lost scholarships (over 5 years)
- 30 forfeited wins (2012 - 2015 based on ineligible players in games)

Can't wait! LOL

[msstate7]

So may great opportunities for the number 30:

- 30 lost scholarships (over 5 years)
- 30 forfeited wins (2012 - 2015 based on ineligible players in games)

Can't wait! LOL

#30 -- aj Moore?

[PassInterference]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

Hugh Freeze signed Tee Shepard knowing fully well that he was deaf. Then didn't play him on the field because he was deaf. Tee was committed to us. Hugh had a spot available. Hugh didn't want us to have Tee and didn't give a damn if Tee got to play college football or not.

So Hugh bought off Tee, signed him, and didn't play him. Just so he wouldn't play here.

There is 0% chance that Ole Miss is forthcoming about this to the 2016 crootin class.

[Political Hack]

If true, they will tie it up in the legal system for years. I'm telling you, I've heard over the last two months that tomorrow is the day , tomorrow is the day and nothing ever happens. Again, I don' believe any of this until or unless there is some documented proof

Strange, I've only heard it a few times and every single person said last Friday... And last Friday is when it supposedly happened. Again, just chatter at this point but all the chatter I've heard aligned pretty consistently.

[msstate7]

Strange, I've only heard it a few times and every single person said last Friday... And last Friday is when it supposedly happened. Again, just chatter at this point but all the chatter I've heard aligned pretty consistently.

Coach66 on sps said Thursday night that Friday would be a good day. I took it as recruiting, but maybe it was this

[preachermatt83]

There are 3 epic posts in this thread. Just saying.

[preachermatt83]

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee175/tflynt66/TSUNami2_zpsa2jg67cc.jpg


The campus may be so beautiful that nothing else matters.......

We are about to find out how pretty it is...


NCAA to OM

These!

[BossDawg]

So if this is true, what keeps their top 10 recruiting class in place? Downplay charges, pure out lie, or the Network stays in denial and spreads even more illegal benefits? Maybe a combination of all three.

Dear people recruiting (not affiliated with UM),

You better be letting every recruit that is considering UM know about the smoke boiling out of Oxford. Feel free to exaggerate the details, too, a lot. Tell everyone who will listen, even if they aren't listening. Thanks..

Sincerely,
Everyone who isn't gullible enough to fall for that pathetic masquerade known as UMiss

[Spiderman]

Why would they not, the players are no more to the than the paid help. It's not about the players, and what those coaches don't understand is they are expendable also. The coaches and players are all just pawns in these lowlife culls games. It's all about proving mine is bigger than yours and I kicked you ass this year. They don't care who gets burned in short term as long as they make them look good in their own little world.

While not every OM fan, that is very true to an extent.

If you read the 'Fall of the House of Zeus" you will see that during a big football game at Ole Miss, Scruggs couldn't even watch the game because Tom Brokaw was in the skybox next to his. He spent most of the game trying to get him in his box. The owner of the other box?................ Joey Langston. His lawyer and fellow crime partner.

He couldn't stand his " main man" upstaging him.

On a personal note, I grew up with a guy, and am friends with another, who are bankrupt and one lost his professional license, because they tried to be a big dogs at Ole Miss.

Skyboxes and $3,000 a game Grove setups did them in. All because it was "expected of them" (their words), but was really just trying to be " True Ole Miss"

[Spiderman]

Hugh Freeze signed Tee Shepard knowing fully well that he was deaf. Then didn't play him on the field because he was deaf. Tee was committed to us. Hugh had a spot available. Hugh didn't want us to have Tee and didn't give a damn if Tee got to play college football or not.

So Hugh bought off Tee, signed him, and didn't play him. Just so he wouldn't play here.

There is 0% chance that Ole Miss is forthcoming about this to the 2016 crootin class.

That Tee deal stunk to high heaven, but I have no knowledge of what actually went down, but that wouldn't surprise me.

That's an Ole Miss gameplan.

Vaught signed a ton just so they wouldn't play at State back in the unlimited scholly days. He even admitted that in his book and interviews after he retired.

[TUSK]

So may great opportunities for the number 30:

- 30 lost scholarships (over 5 years)
- 30 forfeited wins (2012 - 2015 based on ineligible players in games)

Can't wait! LOL

might as well be the DP.... and you can read that in either one of two ways....

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

Perhaps, 30 missing emails that the compliance dept. would not release back in 13'??

[ILOATHEBears]

So if they vacate wins, who drives to Oxfart to pick up the golden egg

[JoseBrown]

Perhaps, 30 missing emails that the compliance dept. would not release back in 13'??

No, silly, 30 is the number of recruits they sent to Waynseboro to get Cragerized on with their ACT's...

[Todd4State]

So if they vacate wins, who drives to Oxfart to pick up the golden egg

I'll volunteer. With two middle fingers in the air while I'm driving off.

[CadaverDawg]

30 - The amount of Ole Miss fans & local "media" members that I will be getting blocked by on Twitter per day once the news breaks.

[notsofarawaydawg]

30 - the number of days before Freezus comes and forgives all our ED sins.

[Jack Lambert]

If they sit on this and allow kids to sign with them, it's the ultimate scum bag move. Surely a preacher man wouldn't do that.

When TV preacher will get a BJ from their Secretary and convince little old women to sign over thier SS check in the name of god they will do anything. Freeze is no better then Baker or any other TV preacher.

[Leroy Jenkins]

30- the number of trees in that thicket on campus Hugh will chew through when he realizes he missed his chance to get out before the reckoning.

[Dawg61]

30- the number Denzel Nkemdiche dials for more Spice

[somebodyshotmypaw]

30 - Jerrel Powe's IQ
30 - the number of dental hygienists it takes to floss Freeze's teeth
30 - the number of times Chad Kelly has been booted from a team
30 - the number of times that Freeze was told that Kimchee had a drug problem
30 - ACT score of players testing at Wayne County
30 - the number of miracles performed by Freezus according to his disciples
30 - the number of whites girls who were left with a bad taste in their mouth after this recruiting weekend
30 - the number of beers Andy Kennedy drank before he assaulted a cab driver

[Mjoelner34]

30 - Jerrel Powe's IQ
30 - the number of dental hygienists it takes to floss Freeze's teeth
30 - the number of times Chad Kelly has been booted from a team
30 - the number of times that Freeze was told that Kimchee had a drug problem
30 - ACT score of players testing at Wayne County
30 - the number of miracles performed by Freezus according to his disciples
30 - the number of whites girls who were left with a bad taste in their mouth after this recruiting weekend
30 - the number of beers Andy Kennedy drank before he assaulted a cab driver

BRAVO!

[dawgman42]

30 - Jerrel Powe's IQ
30 - the number of dental hygienists it takes to floss Freeze's teeth
30 - the number of times Chad Kelly has been booted from a team
30 - the number of times that Freeze was told that Kimchee had a drug problem
30 - ACT score of players testing at Wayne County
30 - the number of miracles performed by Freezus according to his disciples
30 - the number of whites girls who were left with a bad taste in their mouth after this recruiting weekend
30 - the number of beers Andy Kennedy drank before he assaulted a cab driver

https://media.giphy.com/media/h8UyZ6FiT0ptC/giphy.gif

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

The Ledger is scared to say anything. They know Bjork will rip his shirt off and use one of his really professional "come at me bro" Twitter breakdowns

[archdog]

So if they vacate wins, who drives to Oxfart to pick up the golden egg

Bracky.

[starkvegasdawg]

Bracky.

Make him walk carrying Will Redmond on his shoulders.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

30 as in there's a new 30 for 30 in the works?

ESPN films presents 30 for 30: "The Hugh"

What if I told you that a beautiful campus can bring together a preaching beaver, a WWF champion AD, an ACT miracle worker, & the greatest top 10 signing class in history, but it can't keep the NCAA from tearing them apart?

[Mjoelner34]

30 as in there's a new 30 for 30 in the works?

ESPN films presents 30 for 30: "The Hugh"

What if I told you that a beautiful campus can bring together a preaching beaver, a WWF champion AD, an ACT miracle worker, & the greatest top 10 signing class in history, but it can't keep the NCAA from tearing them apart?

Hahaha "a preaching beaver". Rep points for you!

[jumbo]

So if they vacate wins, who drives to Oxfart to pick up the golden egg


unfortunately it doesn't work that way. vacating wins doesn't mean the other team gets the W. that game is just erased from the vacating school's record

[Mjoelner34]

unfortunately it doesn't work that way. vacating wins doesn't mean the other team gets the W. that game is just erased from the vacating school's record

But, the perception that they still won is still there and that is all they care about. That is why they've been full speed ahead with 'crootin. Vacating wins, no matter how many, would equate to a slap on the wrist for them. Only scholly reductions, 'crootin visit limits and bowl bans would affect them.

[JDog13]

Make him walk carrying Will Redmond on his shoulders.

I think Redmond should drive him in his Mustang.

[Coach34]

unfortunately it doesn't work that way. vacating wins doesn't mean the other team gets the W. that game is just erased from the vacating school's record

Either way- it takes their win out of the record books. They owe us a couple from the 70's anyway

[Political Hack]

Either way- it takes their win out of the record books. They owe us a couple from the 70's anyway

Significant chance that Mullen is undefeated against the Land Bears after this. That would be sort of funny.

[32 Dive]

What would be humorous, is for them get caught having knowingly played an ineligible player vs Alabama. #Forfeit is better than #Vacate. #RuinedNocturnalEmission4Rebs

[cheat2win]

Keep the number 30 in mind

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I heard 27 was the number to keep in mind.

[Political Hack]

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I heard 27 was the number to keep in mind.

Maybe people were just rounding up? 27 vs 30 doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, especially considering that there's reportedly more to still look in to.

[MadDawg]

I'm not saying you are wrong, but I heard 27 was the number to keep in mind.

do tell

[louisvilledawg]

do tell

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[mic]

USCw...

Reduction in scholarships by 30 over 4 years and a 2 year post season ban.. And that's not counting attrition they had.
They played in the Las Vegas bowl after the bowl ban was lifted with I think 41 players..
And this was ****ing USCw that still was getting a few elite players every year during the probation.. That won't happen at UMiss..
If they get this punishment it will be crippling for years.....

Yeah I like that number 30....

[ShotgunDawg]

So, what's the time table on this?

With this much info leaking out, I'd assume soon?

[Thompson92]

So, what's the time table on this?

With this much info leaking out, I'd assume soon?

They're required to respond by mid-April. IYOK said OM could be next after UNC's case, which is supposed to end sometime this spring.

[MadDawg]

They're required to respond by mid-April. IYOK said OM could be next after UNC's case, which is supposed to end sometime this spring.

mid-freaking-April? So just a short 3 months away? Good grief.

Are you saying it will take that long for the investigation to conclude or that long before anything is made public?

[Outside-bystander]

You can file your FOIA request again.

It's Coming

That is what I signed up for!

[Thompson92]

mid-freaking-April? So just a short 3 months away? Good grief.

Are you saying it will take that long for the investigation to conclude or that long before anything is made public?

I don't have any inside information, I just know ULL took the full 90 days to respond. If you look up their response, it was very thorough, and obviously took a lot of time and work to put together. OM will want to do the same. I could be wrong.

[ShotgunDawg]

They're required to respond by mid-April. IYOK said OM could be next after UNC's case, which is supposed to end sometime this spring.

Curious if they'll allow players to transfer before the start of the fall semester?

[Coach34]

You can bet they will take the full 90 to respond

[starkvegasdawg]

Can someone elaborate on these numbers here or in a PM, por favor?

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/jc/p/7/005/0a8/204/0c1f282.jpg

[Really Clark?]

They can also request an extension to respond beyond the 90 days but I think that would only buy another 30 days, maybe.

[Coach34]

Rumor is that they are being hit with 30 allegations across multiple sports- football and a couple women's sports- resulting in LOIC- Lack of Institutional Control. Also, that the NCAA has new leads they are still investigation past the 30 allegations.

If true- they won't get SMU'ed cause the NCAA said never again- but they gonna get the next closest thing.

[gtowndawg]

that's the sad part. These kids are going to sign with Ole Miss not understanding the potential repercussions of being on probation the majority of the time they suit up. Why take that chance if they know what's coming down the pike? It's certainly not for a beautiful campus that's for sure.

[starkvegasdawg]

Rumor is that they are being hit with 30 allegations across multiple sports- football and a couple women's sports- resulting in LOIC- Lack of Institutional Control. Also, that the NCAA has new leads they are still investigation past the 30 allegations.

If true- they won't get SMU'ed cause the NCAA said never again- but they gonna get the next closest thing.

http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/359/165/1165359.jpg

[BeardoMSU]

Rumor is that they are being hit with 30 allegations across multiple sports- football and a couple women's sports- resulting in LOIC- Lack of Institutional Control. Also, that the NCAA has new leads they are still investigation past the 30 allegations.

If true- they won't get SMU'ed cause the NCAA said never again- but they gonna get the next closest thing.

https://daleofthedead.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/tumblr_mavlwksj0z1qady5mo1_r2_500.gif?w=640

[BeardoMSU]

Rumor is that they are being hit with 30 allegations across multiple sports- football and a couple women's sports- resulting in LOIC- Lack of Institutional Control. Also, that the NCAA has new leads they are still investigation past the 30 allegations.

If true- they won't get SMU'ed cause the NCAA said never again- but they gonna get the next closest thing.

So....just for the sake of discussion...if that were to all be true, and they do get slammed with a LOIC: how far would the damage extend? Coaches and AD shamed? Fired?

[Bully13]

http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/359/165/1165359.jpg

My sentiments as well Vegas. Hope 34 is right here.

[thf24]

So....just for the sake of discussion...if that were to all be true, and they do get slammed with a LOIC: how far would the damage extend? Coaches and AD shamed? Fired?

IF this is true and they do get LOIC, I think it's safe to assume Freeze would be getting a Show Cause and would have to be fired, which would no doubt unravel everything they have going.

IF.

[ShotgunDawg]

that's the sad part. These kids are going to sign with Ole Miss not understanding the potential repercussions of being on probation the majority of the time they suit up. Why take that chance if they know what's coming down the pike? It's certainly not for a beautiful campus that's for sure.

I don't view this as a huge deal because, just like they did with Penn State, if the sanctions are bad enough, the NCAA will probably allow players to transfer without penalty.

Ole Miss will get some good signing day publicity, but, if this is as bad as the rumors, it will all shake itself out in-time

[Bishop6]

It'll never happen

[BeardoMSU]

IF.

Yep...how many times has that word been uttered by State fans through the centuries?

[MagicDawg]

It'll never happen

I have to agree. I've been a Bulldog too long for me to believe otherwise.

[engie]

I have to agree. I've been a Bulldog too long for me to believe otherwise.
Yet they still hold the distinction as hardest hit team since SMU.

[thf24]

I have to agree. I've been a Bulldog too long for me to believe otherwise.

Don't get me wrong, I'm keeping my expectations tempered, but this time is different. This isn't the usual isolated instance of improper benefits. They've run themselves into a perfect storm with multiple players and areas of violation. Combine that with the NCAA's current need to show it still has teeth, and there's a much better chance than usual they get burned.

[HoopsDawg]

I don't view this as a huge deal because, just like they did with Penn State, if the sanctions are bad enough, the NCAA will probably allow players to transfer without penalty.

Ole Miss will get some good signing day publicity, but, if this is as bad as the rumors, it will all shake itself out in-time

That's true, we need to stay in touch with Benito Jones and some of those guys so we can take them when they are allowed to transfer.

[gtowndawg]

I don't view this as a huge deal because, just like they did with Penn State, if the sanctions are bad enough, the NCAA will probably allow players to transfer without penalty.

Ole Miss will get some good signing day publicity, but, if this is as bad as the rumors, it will all shake itself out in-time

I hope so. The kids deserve a chance to move on so they can enjoy their college football career.

[Really Clark?]

I wouldn't be holding my breath on transfers. Those incidents are few and far between. Only in extreme scandals or repeat offenders who are receiving severely escalating penalties have they allowed players to transfer because of sanctions. IF it happens with UNM, then that's the least of their worries. But it's way down the list of what might be a final outcome that follows sanctions.

[TXDawg]

Rumor is that they are being hit with 30 allegations across multiple sports- football and a couple women's sports- resulting in LOIC- Lack of Institutional Control. Also, that the NCAA has new leads they are still investigation past the 30 allegations.

If true- they won't get SMU'ed cause the NCAA said never again- but they gonna get the next closest thing.

If the NCAA is still investigating, why have their issued their NOA now? Wouldn't they wait until the investigation is complete before issuing a NOA?

[Travelingdawg]

So will big brother Patterson let little brother go to the bears , if this is all true?

[ShotgunDawg]

If the NCAA is still investigating, why have their issued their NOA now? Wouldn't they wait until the investigation is complete before issuing a NOA?

Could be that it's an endless rabbit hole & they had finally found enough to declare LOIC. If the NCAA has found enough to declare LOIC, then it make sense to go ahead & place sanctions or else you risk investigating for 10 years & penalizing people that weren't involved.

[Coach34]

If the NCAA is still investigating, why have their issued their NOA now? Wouldn't they wait until the investigation is complete before issuing a NOA?

I asked that- and the response:

A) There's been so much- they decided to conclude most of what they have to close that part

OR

B) They could be dealing with a time constraint on some of it

[ShotgunDawg]

I asked that- and the response:

A) There's been so much- they decided to conclude most of what they have to close that part

OR

B) They could be dealing with a time constraint on some of it

I think it's part A

I have asked a few times, "If the investigation never ends, does the team ever go on probation?"

This appears to be the NCAA's answer to this question

[TXDawg]

Could be that it's an endless rabbit hole & they had finally found enough to declare LOIC. If the NCAA has found enough to declare LOIC, then it make sense to go ahead & place sanctions or else you risk investigating for 10 years & penalizing people that weren't involved.

I hope this is right, but I guess we'll have to wait 90 days to find out. They're sure to drag the response out as long as possible.

[Bishop6]

When does the 90 days start? How about putting a countdown at the top of the site.

[Really Clark?]

When does the 90 days start? How about putting a countdown at the top of the site.

The day they receive the Notice of Allegations. That date is what many want to know.

[Big4Dawg]

So will big brother Patterson let little brother go to the bears , if this is all true?

This is a good question. Surely if this is all true, his brother would protect lil' bro and they would GTFO.

[Travelingdawg]

I would think that would be a red flag , and we would know by signing day.

[Big4Dawg]

He is an EE so should enroll pretty soon

[Op4isabitch]

If all member institutions receive notice,mother surely they are using this against Ole Miss in recruiting.
Why wouldn't one of these institutions let the information slip into the public arena?

[starkvegasdawg]

This is a good question. Surely if this is all true, his brother would protect lil' bro and they would GTFO.

Absolutely no way they are telling elder Patterson anything other than pumping sunshine up his southern orifice. You can guarantee he is on a strictly need to know basis. Last thing they would do is say anything to him that would jeopardize their star QB of the future changing his mind.

What I would like to know is what would they tell recruits on their big OV weekend if they point blank ask them what's up.

[JoseBrown]

It'll happen

There, fixed it for you. I like it much better this way.

Roy McLain will finally be vindicated. Wouldn't that be nice.

[ShotgunDawg]

Any chance Orgeron could get mixed up in this?
After all, wasn't he the initial implementer?

[raymond21]

When does the 90 days start? How about putting a countdown at the top of the site.

Need a clock showing days that nothing happens. It would surpass the Country's deficit numbers

[Jack Lambert]

Need a clock showing days that nothing happens. It would surpass the Country's deficit numbers

Do you want bet your 500Vcash on that? In fact I would give you 10 to 1 odds.

[Dawgowar]

Need a clock showing days that nothing happens. It would surpass the Country's deficit numbers

If it was Friday then it will be 15 April - Death, Taxes, and The NCAA - a Trifecta for Douchebags

[EMDawg]

So will big brother Patterson let little brother go to the bears , if this is all true?

If Patterson goes elsewhere, they are gonna be in some big trouble regarding QB depth come fall. Hearing there is another QB hanging up the cleats.

[Big4Dawg]

If Patterson goes elsewhere, they are gonna be in some big trouble regarding QB depth come fall. Hearing there is another QB hanging up the cleats.

Patterson is all but enrolled

[MannyDiazzzzNuts]

I've been active on State boards since the late 90s and for as far back as I remember, there are always offseason threads about how the Bears are going down and nothing big ever comes of it and while I hope this time is different, history tells me otherwise.

My personal rule is that until these rumors start popping up within other fanbases in the SEC that are more connected to the SEC and NCAA than we are, it's just the seasonal "TSUN going down!" pitchfork riots that have been going on since the early days of sports message boards. Has anyone seen these same rumors from anywhere outside of our own?

[Dawgowar]

10....9....8....7....6

[dawggoneit]

Been following MSU boards for several years. ED rumors seem to pan out more often than not.

[32 Dive]

Been following MSU boards for several years. ED rumors seem to pan out more often than not.

I would say a tempered version of things. Like when you see drawings for a stadium, and after all the concrete is poured, it's a diet version of the grandiose palace you imagined.

[32 Dive]

Much in the same way, people (elsewhere) concluded we were going to go under from the Redmond fiasco.

[32 Dive]

On a side note, anyone contact TMZ about it? They scooped the planet on Glen Frey's passing...

[engie]

If Patterson goes elsewhere, they are gonna be in some big trouble regarding QB depth come fall. Hearing there is another QB hanging up the cleats.

Patterson is going to be there. The redshirt Pellerin is legit as well. As much as everyone is looking for this fall from grace -- they are in very good shape at the QB position.

[Coach34]

I've been active on State boards since the late 90s and for as far back as I remember, there are always offseason threads about how the Bears are going down and nothing big ever comes of it and while I hope this time is different, history tells me otherwise.

My personal rule is that until these rumors start popping up within other fanbases in the SEC that are more connected to the SEC and NCAA than we are, it's just the seasonal "TSUN going down!" pitchfork riots that have been going on since the early days of sports message boards. Has anyone seen these same rumors from anywhere outside of our own?

This has been on Bama boards too