Official MSU at Kentucky Basketball Thread - Can the Bulldogs cover the Spread?

[ScoobaDawg]

Game Information
Time: 6 p.m. CT
Location: Lexington, KY
Arena: Rupp Arena
TV: ESPN
PxP: Brad Nessler
Analyst: Sean Farnham
Sideline: Shannon Spake

MSU Radio Network:
Sirius/XM: 132/191


Live Stats (http://www.ukathletics.com/game-center/55d4ffd9e4b00d23ac550464/)


Bet your ass off link (http://www.elitedawgs.com/showthread.php?39493-MSU-at-Kentucky-Basketball-Tuesday-Jan-12)


- After winning three-straight against Kentucky, the Wildcats have won the last eight.
- The Bulldogs last won at Rupp Arena in 2009, 66-57.
- Kentucky has posted double-digit wins against MSU four-straight games. During that span, the average margin of victory has been 20 points.
- Mississippi State is 0-8 all-time against John Calipari

-In just 13 games, Malik Newman has already drained 31 3-pointers. That’s currently the 7th most by an MSU freshman. His 13.0 average, second highest on the team, ranks 6th all-time by a freshman in school history
-Gavin Ware has a player efficiency ranking of 33.77, which is third best nationally behind LSU’s Ben Simmons (35.71) and North Carolina’s Brice Johnson (34.82). In SEC stats, Ware is tops in field goal percentage (.653) and 11th nationally
- Craig Sword had 21 points at Arkansas, marking the 15th time in his career he’s scored 20-plus
points
-Senior forward Gavin Ware has scored in double-digits all 14 games this season, the longest streak to start a season since Tony Watts recorded 10-plus points in all 28 games of the
1991-92 season.

[msstate7]

We'll get thumped on the boards big time tonight, which will result in getting thumped on the scoreboard. Hopefully we can bounce back vs Tennessee Saturday

[NeshobaChuck]

Hate to say it but it won't even be close UK will cover with ease could be wrong I've been wrong before but who knows

[starkvegasdawg]

Forfeiting would be less embarrassing than playing this game.

[MafiaDawg]

Basketball used to be a source of pride for MSU. Now it's completely embarrassing and I'm tired of it. Will try again next year. These seniors have to go down as the biggest group of losers ever at State right? Literally. Has any 4 yr class in modern history lost more games?

[msstate7]

Good start

[msstate7]

And back to reality...

[msstate7]

Some of these TOs are just ridiculous

[msstate7]

Sword with 2 TOs in first 3 mins

[msstate7]

TOs, TOs, and more TOs... I hate this team

[ChevChelios]

These phantom fouls are ridiculous. I dont even know why I watch anymore. Meanwhile UK player just bodied up chicken while he was in the air for a layup and not shit was called.

[JohnnyQuid]

so hard to watch

[CarolinaDawgs]

Kentucky -16 feeling spectacular now.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Kentucky -16 feeling spectacular now.

Kentucky for THREEEEEE

[CarolinaDawgs]

I wanna know the live over/under on our points for the first half 21.5????

[msstate7]

If we're gonna just play zone all game, every game, then we're gonna get drilled by ole miss

[BoomBoom]

These phantom fouls are ridiculous. I dont even know why I watch anymore. Meanwhile UK player just bodied up chicken while he was in the air for a layup and not shit was called.

Welcome to Kentucky officiating Ben Howland! Better nut up and address it now, if you want to affect it for when it matters.

[ChevChelios]

WTF did Gavin do?

[JohnnyQuid]

Well see ya in 2nd half gavin. shocker

[Percho]

Went back and watched the foul. Weak weak weak

[ChevChelios]

Went back and watched the foul. Weak weak weak

Its ****in BS.

[JohnnyQuid]

wow how was that not a foul on Daniels layup attempt

[CarolinaDawgs]

Damn Dawgs back in it

[msstate7]

Freshmen give us back-to-back baskets. Q and Malik should be our backcourt

[ChevChelios]

Freshmen give us back-to-back baskets. Q and Malik should be our backcourt

Q is smooth.

[Percho]

should have been an over and back

[Percho]

maybe not

[ChevChelios]

Another no call on a Chicken layup

[msstate7]

If sword wasn't a TO machine, he'd be a really good player

[Percho]

These announcers are sharp as a tack. Couple of assholes.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Talking mad SHIT about Zupp hahaha

[ChevChelios]

Malik needs to put his finger down... You are getn smacked

[CarolinaDawgs]

RIP to everybody that had Kentucky -9.5 for the 1H

[shannondawg]

Its just another team when Q is in there.

[chef dixon]

I'll go ahead and say it. Ndoye would be giving this team more than Holman can right now.

I'll give him time though. I just find it unreal how our basketball players look like they have never played basketball before most of the time. Basic fundamentals just go out the window. It would make me so happy if we could just catch a pass, make a clean pass, dribble without traveling. Holy shit.

[Schultzy]

Can't wait for Howland to get a roster he can win with. Now that IT really is coming.

[msstate7]

Arkansas had 16 3's. Kentucky has 7 so far tonight. We've got to be able to play man defense some or sec teams are gonna torch our zone

[msstate7]

16 TOs...

[JohnnyQuid]

Why the **** is Daniels bringing the ball up all the time and **** that late ass charge call

[Schultzy]

Arkansas had 16 3's. Kentucky has 7 so far tonight. We've got to be able to play man defense some or sec teams are gonna torch our zone

Then we can foul our big man out early, catch 22, our time is coming but it's not this year.

[msstate7]

Howland knows what he's doing, but I really question why we aren't playing Holman and Q more. I know Holman isn't very good so far, by this year is over... Play who can help us next year

[Maroonthirteen]

No kidding these announcers....Nestler has seen enough SEC basketball, he knows Kentucky is head and shoulders more talented than most SEC teams. There is no point in disparaging the MSU play continually. It just isn't a even matchup.

[msstate7]

Then we can foul our big man out early, catch 22, our time is coming but it's not this year.

Does it matter? Just throw Q, Malik, and Holman out there with whoever and play the defense we'll play next year. Who cares if we lose by 12-18 or 30? A loss is a loss

[Maroonthirteen]

Goodness, I hope Newman comes back with Q next year. Q is the best true freshman I've seen in a long time.

[mparkerfd20]

Easiest vcash ever!

[Percho]

Thing that gripes me about this game is how early they took Ware out of this game.

[RougeDawg]

Hell, if we had any type of offensive rebounding or rebounding at all we would be in this one.

[msstate7]

Hell, if we had any type of offensive rebounding or rebounding at all we would be in this one.

I can forgive the rebounding bc Kentucky is big. The TOs are what I don't forgive... Totally careless with the ball

[Rayburn8]

Easiest vcash ever!

What about now?

[RougeDawg]

I can forgive the rebounding bc Kentucky is big. The TOs are what I don't forgive... Totally careless with the ball

Reason we are losing is UK offensive responds. They are killing us with 2nd chances.

[RougeDawg]

Too bad Ware doesn't have any help down low.

[Red Sox Dawg]

What was the spread?

[msstate7]

Reason we are losing is UK offensive responds. They are killing us with 2nd chances.

We have 19 TOs, 8 assists... Pretty big stat

[tcdog70]

chicken is killing them. please play Flat Top and put Traviss ass on the bench. Q also looks good

[tcdog70]

Nessler is a dick

[ChevChelios]

wow... and no foul called

[ChevChelios]

and that tech on Ready is some BS

[CarolinaDawgs]

Man I was licking my chops with -16. Kentucky sucks.

[ChevChelios]

How old are these UK band members... shit man

[msstate7]

I would love to win this, but I'm claiming a moral victory even if we lose. Love us changinh up defenses the last few mins.

[CarolinaDawgs]

THATS AN AWFUL CALL

[msstate7]

Got to get that rebound! Damn

[ChevChelios]

We actually look decent in man for some reason.

[CarolinaDawgs]

IJ really won't pass it to Malik.. this is laughable

[msstate7]

We actually look decent in man for some reason.

Should've used it some vs Arkansas... Might've cut down on all those 3's

[ChevChelios]

O well, good show of heart coming back.

[RougeDawg]

Have to admit I didn't expect this, but it's nice to see us fight until the end.

[CarolinaDawgs]

**** YOU MSU. LOSE THE ****ING GAME BY 17 or ****ING WIN. MORAL VICTORIES ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT LOSE A LOT

[tcdog70]

Ready only missues free throws in the clutch.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

nm

[tcdog70]

**** YOU MSU. LOSE THE ****ING GAME BY 17 or ****ING WIN. MORAL VICTORIES ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT LOSE A LOT

Easy Turbo, our guys played their asses off. Lots of bullshit calls by Refs.

[msstate7]

Ready only missues free throws in the clutch.

Malik too... Not a good thing for your backcourt to miss FTs when you need them the most

[CarolinaDawgs]

Should we give them a trophy?? Your kids probably get 8th place trophies.

[BeardoMSU]

Should we give them a trophy?? Your kids probably get 8th place trophies.

Geez....

[notsofarawaydawg]

Well .. at least it wasn't a 22 point loss .. the usual referee shit to get the big man in foul trouble early and all those turnovers just don't equal a win. Hopefully the guys haven't got to many scratches and bruises from Kentucky's slapping, pushing and grabbing. Another thing that pisses me is that a KY player always touches the ball coming out of the basket when they score a FG. That's total bullshit when they throw it to the referee. Heaven forbid they enforce a rule that will hurt them not getting setup in their press. God I hate those bastards in basketball.

Oh, Carolina, go **** yourself. Howland is trying to build a program and doing it with what was left in the bucket.

[chef dixon]

Q was doing all the little things for that comeback

[msstate7]

Q was doing all the little things for that comeback

Everyone (myself included) gets caught up in the Malik returning talk, but Q will definitely be back and he's gonna be special

[CarolinaDawgs]

Oh, Carolina, go **** yourself. Howland is trying to build a program and doing it with what was left in the bucket.

Very Impressed. But this year is a scratch anyways. Lets lose like we are trying to prepare to win next year.

[tcdog70]

Should we give them a trophy?? Your kids probably get 8th place trophies.

Man what's your problem?. Our program has been in the shit can. I see lots of progress. And don't say shit about my Kids.
You act like some message board bad ass.

[NeshobaChuck]

This team is making progress no doubt. When we got down 20 thought we were done for they fought back with heart and pride and made it respectable which I'm ok with for what we have on this roster right now. If we truly can get Malik back next year boy that could be a special team of the signees pan out. And I couldn't agree more about Q that kid is going to be something special

[CarolinaDawgs]

Man what's your problem?. Our program has been in the shit can. I see lots of progress. And don't say shit about my Kids.
You act like some message board bad ass.

My bad I typed that while I was busy ****ing myself***

[tcdog70]

This team is making progress no doubt. When we got down 20 thought we were done for they fought back with heart and pride and made it respectable which I'm ok with for what we have on this roster right now. If we truly can get Malik back next year boy that could be a special team of the signees pan out. And I couldn't agree more about Q that kid is going to be something special

Right--We just played back to back on the road in the 2 hardest places to win. We have gotten our asses kick in Hogville when we had great teams. We looked pretty good in both losses. Chicken is starting to be hell on wheels. Q needs to just take Ready's spot. Put Flat top Fred in Daniels' spot and let's play some man defense. Newman will continue to get better. I like the 3 headed monster of Chicken-Newman and Q they can drive and shoot. turn their asses loose. Ready killed us on defense and Daniels just isn't SEC ready.

[NeshobaChuck]

Ready IMO should not start takes terrible shots early in the shot clock doesn't pass to Malik at all. Malik also has to take more shots has to. He's got to learn ok I need to take over this game mentality. I also believe Q needs to start in Ready's place him or Malik either one

[msstate7]

Right--We just played back to back on the road in the 2 hardest places to win. We have gotten our asses kick in Hogville when we had great teams. We looked pretty good in both losses. Chicken is starting to be hell on wheels. Q needs to just take Ready's spot. Put Flat top Fred in Daniels' spot and let's play some man defense. Newman will continue to get better. I like the 3 headed monster of Chicken-Newman and Q they can drive and shoot. turn their asses loose. Ready killed us on defense and Daniels just isn't SEC ready.

Sword is scoring well. Here's his stats in sec games...

aTm -- 7 pts 3 assists 5 TO
Ark -- 21 pts 0 assists. 6 TO
Kentucky -- 20 pts 1 assists 5 TO

Sec avg ... 16 pts 1.3 assists 5.3 TO

Points are great, but assist to TO ratio is awful.

[Jack Lambert]

**** YOU MSU. LOSE THE ****ING GAME BY 17 or ****ING WIN. MORAL VICTORIES ARE FOR PEOPLE THAT LOSE A LOT

Up until four years ago we only worried about post season loses. We went from being a consistant top five SEC team to a consistant bottom five.

[MarketingBully]

Sword is scoring well. Here's his stats in sec games...

aTm -- 7 pts 3 assists 5 TO
Ark -- 21 pts 0 assists. 6 TO
Kentucky -- 20 pts 1 assists 5 TO

Sec avg ... 16 pts 1.3 assists 5.3 TO

Points are great, but assist to TO ratio is awful.

Hard to win games when he is turning it over so much. Would be an interesting stat to find out how many points teams are scoring off of Sword's turnovers. If we are going to turn a corner, we need Q and Malik to step it up and Sword to average say 4-6 less and 4 less turnovers. He doesn't need to have the ball in his hands so much.

[Maroonthirteen]

I thought it was obvious that we played better with Q and Malik in the game. I would go to a three guard lineup.

[tcdog70]

Hard to win games when he is turning it over so much. Would be an interesting stat to find out how many points teams are scoring off of Sword's turnovers. If we are going to turn a corner, we need Q and Malik to step it up and Sword to average say 4-6 less and 4 less turnovers. He doesn't need to have the ball in his hands so much.


We don't really need for Chicken to be assist Guy. When he gets the rock he is shooting or driving to the rack. sometimes he gets a little out of control. Some of his TOs are charges. He made some good drops to Ware who fumbled it out of bounds. He will get better with the TOs.

[MarketingBully]

We don't really need for Chicken to be assist Guy. When he gets the rock he is shooting or driving to the rack. sometimes he gets a little out of control. Some of his TOs are charges. He made some good drops to Ware who fumbled it out of bounds. He will get better with the TOs.

He's a senior making the same turnovers he did when he was a freshman. He would play well and score but also would make turnovers like he did against A&M and we wouldn't even get a shot off. I like the fact he is scoring but he shouldn't be our first option. Since the SEC season started, it looks like he has just said **** it and is making himself our first option. If we are going to be the best team we can be this year, he needs to understand he isn't the first option. If he keeps doing what he is doing, we won't. We are 0-3 with his way. We have a great chance to beat Tennessee this weekend. We will need our team to play like a team though.

[tcdog70]

He's a senior making the same turnovers he did when he was a freshman. He would play well and score but also would make turnovers like he did against A&M and we wouldn't even get a shot off. I like the fact he is scoring but he shouldn't be our first option. Since the SEC season started, it looks like he has just said **** it and is making himself our first option. If we are going to be the best team we can be this year, he needs to understand he isn't the first option. If he keeps doing what he is doing, we won't. We are 0-3 with his way. We have a great chance to beat Tennessee this weekend. We will need our team to play like a team though.


i guess you didn't like Jamont Gordon either?