Eddie O

[It_Could_Happen]

Football scoop just said on Twitter Dan Mullen is "all in" on hiring Ed O to be the DC, and won't offer it to anyone else until he says no. No this is not a joke.

[CadaverDawg]

Haha

Sources tell FootballScoop Dan Mullen is ?all in? on Ed Orgeron for his defensive coordinator position Footballscoop.com/the-scoop

[It_Could_Happen]

I would post the link but I don't know how on mobile. Logan Lowry just retweeted it so go to his page.

[MSUDawg99]

https://twitter.com/MattMoscona/status/685203237448777730

Here's the link. But it's football scoop so I'm not sure whether I believe it yet or not.

[Big4Dawg]

Matt Moscona ‏@MattMoscona
I'm hearing Dan Mullen making a strong push for #LSU's Ed Orgeron as his defensive coordinator. Les Miles may have another SEC West fight.

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop


Mississippi State: Sources tell FootballScoop that there are other candidates; but Dan Mullen will not offer the defensive coordinator position to anyone else until Ed Orgeron tells him no.

[It_Could_Happen]

Cadaver merge my thread didn't mean to double up there. Paging Preacher.

[BossDawg]

Isn't footballscoop that site operated by a couple of UMiss guys?

[engie]

Y'all are gonna learn about arguing with preacher when he says seemingly outlandish things... haha

Think it's a mistake to give him defensive playcalling, but what do I know

[CadaverDawg]

Cadaver merge my thread didn't mean to double up there. Paging Preacher.

No worries, you posted it first...my bad.

Lol at your preachermatt comment. He is going to be fired up if it's true

[yjnkdawg]

Football scoop just said on Twitter Dan Mullen is "all in" on hiring Ed O to be the DC, and won't offer it to anyone else until he says no. No this is not a joke.

Football Scoop wants to stir our fanbase up, have negative publicity for us, or get hits on their site. They are 100% OM.

[It_Could_Happen]

Preacher Matt must be asleep if he hasn't commented by now.

[MSUMatt]

Y'all are gonna learn about arguing with preacher when he says seemingly outlandish things... haha

Think it's a mistake to give him defensive playcalling, but what do I know

You are also letting him coach LBs or Turner is leaving.

[BossDawg]

Football Scoop wants to stir our fanbase up, have negative publicity for us, or get hits on their site. They are 100% OM.

That's what I was thinking. I wouldn't consider that site a credible source simply because of who created it.

[CadaverDawg]

Preachermatt right now....

http://thefw.com/files/2013/05/DealWithIt.gif

[It_Could_Happen]

Think he would coach LB's. I also think this is a sign Mullen is willing to give up the defensive play calling because I don't think O would come otherwise.

[Big4Dawg]

Football Scoop wants to stir our fanbase up, have negative publicity for us, or get hits on their site. They are 100% OM.

I think this actually is more. Matt Moscona reported it before Football Scoop.

[Dawg496]

So Turner gone too or is someone making the switch to LBs?

Who is the stronger DL coach - O or Turner?

Maybe we can hire another ace recruiter at the LB spot.

[It_Could_Happen]

was O DC at USC?

[K9 Avenger]

I think this actually is more. Matt Moscona reported it before Football Scoop.

I think this is probably where Football Scoop got their "scoop"...

[Coach34]

Hiring O would make zero sense? WTF is going to coach LB'ers?

Would be be shocking and hard to believe Talks fell thru with Allen over a non compete with OM

[It_Could_Happen]

Hiring O would make zero sense? WTF is going to coach LB'ers?

Would be be shocking and hard to believe Talks fell thru with Allen over a non compete with OM

Why would Baton Rogue radio put it out about one of their own coaches if there was nothing to it?

[ShotgunDawg]

Turner coached LBs at Virginia for 4 seasons

A native of Goldston, N.C., Turner also has worked in the Big Ten Conference at Minnesota (2001), where he worked with the defensive ends, and in the Atlantic Coast Conference at Virginia (1997-2000), where he coached defensive tackles and linebackers. He also was co-special teams coordinator in his final season. The Cavaliers played in the Peach Bowl, Micronpc.com Bowl and the Oahu Classic during his term there.

[It_Could_Happen]

Turner coached LBs at Virginia for 4 seasons

A native of Goldston, N.C., Turner also has worked in the Big Ten Conference at Minnesota (2001), where he worked with the defensive ends, and in the Atlantic Coast Conference at Virginia (1997-2000), where he coached defensive tackles and linebackers. He also was co-special teams coordinator in his final season. The Cavaliers played in the Peach Bowl, Micronpc.com Bowl and the Oahu Classic during his term there.

I like keeping turner. Slide him to LB's and have Ed O on the DL. Damn good defensive staff.

[Op4isabitch]

So who is going to be the Co-DC? You know there'll have to be one if O is the guy.

[Big4Dawg]

Lance Thompson as Co-DC :cool:

[It_Could_Happen]

As wild as this thing is getting I could see us knowing something tonight or tomorrow. Just read Miles trying to talk Ed into staying.

[pdawg10msu]

I have no source or anything, just based on what I have been reading, I feel that's who it's gonna be. Not sure if I like it or not. Haven't decided yet.

[ShotgunDawg]

Hiring O would make zero sense? WTF is going to coach LB'ers?

Would be be shocking and hard to believe Talks fell thru with Allen over a non compete with OM

I am not envisioning a full year of slamming my cowbell into the ground because we can't stop a basic off-tackle running play that the other team runs 10 times in a row

[ShotgunDawg]

Michael Bonner ‏@MikeBBonner 1m1 minute ago
In regards to Ed Orgeron, source tells me, he has not been interviewed at MSU yet, nor has he been offered the job.

[Maroon_and_white]

I would absolutely be beside myself with joy if Coach O joined our staff in any capacity. What a A+ hire if true and I would not understand how anyone could not like this hire. He is an ELITE recruiter and that is what we desperately need. I'm not holding my breathe, but please happen.

[It_Could_Happen]

Someone who knows what is going on please update us.

[Really Clark?]

No worries, you posted it first...my bad.

Lol at your preachermatt comment. He is going to be fired up if it's true

I'm with you on the play calling. Maybe there is a plan in place that makes sense once it falls together. If he is the man I hope he is finally ready.

ETA. Sorry didn't mean to quote you

[defiantdog]

Coach O is in negotiations with Miles to get a contract extension and most likely a raise to $550,000 a year. We'd have to offer with a guaranteed 3 year contract at $1 million per year.

[Statefan]

Dang it did footballscoop troll us yet again??

I am also on the fence about his playcalling -- BUT the guy has so much experience coaching and even being a HC and successful interim HC that he can't be terrible

[Coach34]

Michael Bonner ‏@MikeBBonner 1m1 minute ago
In regards to Ed Orgeron, source tells me, he has not been interviewed at MSU yet, nor has he been offered the job.

And there you go- thanks Bonner

[Jack Lambert]

I would absolutely be beside myself with joy if Coach O joined our staff in any capacity. What a A+ hire if true and I would not understand how anyone could not like this hire. He is an ELITE recruiter and that is what we desperately need. I'm not holding my breathe, but please happen.

He has come a long ways since being at Ole Miss. The guy has been a HC twice and did one hell of a job at USC as the HC. He has the smarts to coach Defense.

[Really Clark?]

I would absolutely be beside myself with joy if Coach O joined our staff in any capacity. What a A+ hire if true and I would not understand how anyone could not like this hire. He is an ELITE recruiter and that is what we desperately need. I'm not holding my breathe, but please happen.

Fine with everything you said, but he has never ever been tabbed to call plays. That is the absolute main function of a DC. Recruiting is secondary. By a large margin.

[Jack Lambert]

Coach O is in negotiations with Miles to get a contract extension and most likely a raise to $550,000 a year. We'd have to offer with a guaranteed 3 year contract at $1 million per year.

I think as of a thin ice Miles is standing on and the financial situation at LSU in General there is only so much Miles can get. As and DC at state Mullen is on firm ice and get the money he needs.

[CadaverDawg]

Bonner just said his sources say Mullen hasn't even spoken to Orgeron.

Don't be surprised if O's agent sees this as a last chance to get O a raise before we hire Allen...

[MaxedOutMaroon]

If you want another one and done DC, you will hire O the coach. He's constantly looking for HC jobs and USC DC job

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

QUIT READING FOOTBALL SCOOP....

[BSME04]

Saw on Twitter where Devin White is supposed to announce his commitment soon. Currently projected to pick LSU over ole miss. Surely football scoop isn't throwing out misinformation to sway crootin...

[Coach34]

Orgeron would be a shitty hire. Has never been a DC. Doesn't fit with Mullen's personality. It's just not a fit and something that would be shocking

[defiantdog]

I think as of a thin ice Miles is standing on and the financial situation at LSU in General there is only so much Miles can get. As and DC at state Mullen is on firm ice and get the money he needs.

The $550,000 contract extension is waiting on Coach O to sign. I don't think O even wants to be a coordinator..... I think he either wants to be the head guy or a position coach.

[mic]

Here is a scoop.....
**** football scoop and **** Michael Bonner while we are at it..
Our athletic dept should tell Bonner bullshit info all the time... No matter if truth or not..

[Really Clark?]

Football scope trolling trying to take away from the great hire of TBuck!! They will do anything to disrupt us! I'm only partially kidding.

[Spiderman]

Dang it did footballscoop troll us yet again??

I am also on the fence about his playcalling -- BUT the guy has so much experience coaching and even being a HC and successful interim HC that he can't be terrible

Yeah, Ed is a straight up 4-3 coach. He's been around Miami, USC, talent, except at Ole Miss. And that straight 4-3 didn't do so hot with Ole Miss talent. He ain't my 1st choice to run the D. Coach DL and recruit? Sure... Just wouldn't be comfortable with him as DC based on past experience. Mighten he change? I guess anything is possible, but I doubt it.

Also, to think that a guy that has been in coaching, especially on one side of the ball as long as he has, couldn't coach LB's is laughable. He can coach any position on D. Just is best at DL. If he can't, he sucks as a coach.

[yjnkdawg]

Didn't O turn down the LSU DC position? If he did do that, then I can't see why he would accept ours unless he thinks Miles may not be at LSU after next year?

[defiantdog]

Didn't O turn down the LSU DC position? If he did do that, then I can't see why he would accept ours unless he thinks Miles may not be at LSU after next year?

He's about to get a pay raise and he's the primary recruiter on the majority of LSU's commits. He's not going to leave LSU.

[ShotgunDawg]

LSUSportsNews ‏@LSU_Sports_News 1m1 minute ago
(Times Pic) LSU's Ed Orgeron unlikely to leave for Mississippi State, sources say http://*******/1OS8OOk #LSU

This entire 20 minute episode feels completely fabricated by someone wanting to gain leverage

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Looks like a bunch of noise that means nothing.

[Coach34]

Could have been thrown out to get Allen off his ass about signing that no-compete

[engie]

You are also letting him coach LBs or Turner is leaving.

Trust me I've beaten the topic to death...

[PendingTransaction]

Orgeron would be a shitty hire. Has never been a DC. Doesn't fit with Mullen's personality. It's just not a fit and something that would be shocking

I totally agree with this. Just don't see the fit. Whether warranted or not, Mullen has developed a reputation of not being the guy that a independent-thinking DC should work for given similar opportunity elsewhere. I think a young up-and-coming fits better. Or a burned out guy who has lost the fire and desire to move up.

[deltadawg99]

Is the non compete the holdup on Allen?

[ShotgunDawg]

Could have been thrown out to get Allen off his ass about signing that no-compete

Interesting theory....

Wonder if our PR guy, that used to be at LSU, Bill Martin just used the Moscona guy as a pawn

[Really Clark?]

Could have been thrown out to get Allen off his ass about signing that no-compete

Could be. Unfortunately what ticks me off is it comes out the day we hire a great safety coach and it being know that we have strong interest in Allen. To certain part of even our own fan base hiring anyone but O is a let down. And our rivals, who happen to have a connection to these rumor mills, can also use the "we couldn't get O for two straight years and ended up with one of our guys". I'm probably over reacting but it really rubs me raw how this come about and the timing.

[Big4Dawg]

If him and Freeze aren't friends, why does he care about a non-compete?

[CadaverDawg]

Could be. Unfortunately what ticks me off is it comes out the day we hire a great safety coach and it being know that we have strong interest in Allen. To certain part of even our own fan base hiring anyone but O is a let down. And our rivals, who happen to have a connection to these rumor mills, can also use the "we couldn't get O for two straight years and ended up with one of our guys". I'm probably over reacting but it really rubs me raw how this come about and the timing.

You are

[confucius say]

We hire Allen and then it looks like we had to "settle" for our second choice bc we couldn't get O. That's the agenda of football scoop here. #footballconspiracies

[FISHDAWG]

No worries, you posted it first...my bad.

Lol at your preachermatt comment. He is going to be fired up if it's true

maybe we can get him to predict 11 & 1 again

[ShotgunDawg]

Whelp, Tucker is off the board

Bruce FeldmanVerified account
‏@BruceFeldmanCFB
#Alabama DB coach Mel Tucker is set to become the new DC on Kirby Smart's staff at #Georgia, source told

[BossDawg]

I would be on the fence about O. I'd be ecstatic about recruiting but iffy about his management skills. Either way, for the love of God, STOP READING AND BELIEVING FOOTBALLSCOOP!....PLEASE! All they do is "scoop" garbage about MSU and troll the fans because they are obsessed UMiss guys.

The more I read about Allen the more I want him anyway.

[Really Clark?]

You are

:mad: :cool:

It's my conspiracy side coming out to play

[CadaverDawg]

:mad: :cool:

It's my conspiracy side coming out to play

Haha, I think Allen has already been hired...just not released yet.

[defiantdog]

Whelp, Tucker is off the board

Bruce FeldmanVerified account
‏@BruceFeldmanCFB
#Alabama DB coach Mel Tucker is set to become the new DC on Kirby Smart's staff at #Georgia, source told

I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to go back to the NFL at this point.

[FISHDAWG]

The $550,000 contract extension is waiting on Coach O to sign. I don't think O even wants to be a coordinator..... I think he either wants to be the head guy or a position coach.

yeah - but I doubt they will guarantee 3 years ..... they changed their minds and only guaranteed Miles another year IMO ... I believe they are looking for an excuse to can the whole staff if they don't win the conference next year

[Really Clark?]

Haha, I think Allen has already been hired...just not released yet.

Probably so. Or in the middle of negotiations, ironing out the details. And for all we know all this came from O's agent trying squeeze an extra $50,000 out. A lot of smoke that last year they kept us in holding pattern trying to get money from LSU.

[yjnkdawg]

This is what LSU confirmed.

http://blogs.theadvocate.com/tigertracks/mississippi-state-pursuing-lsus-ed-orgeron-while-orgeron-and-lsu-discuss-a-new-deal-sources-confirm/

[Really Clark?]

yeah - but I doubt they will guarantee 3 years ..... they changed their minds and only guaranteed Miles another year IMO ... I believe they are looking for an excuse to can the whole staff if they don't win the conference next year

They did just give Raymond a 2 year extension and bump in salary and are working in an extension for Cameron. Don't know how many years though.

[defiantdog]

yeah - but I doubt they will guarantee 3 years ..... they changed their minds and only guaranteed Miles another year IMO ... I believe they are looking for an excuse to can the whole staff if they don't win the conference next year


Probably so. Or in the middle of negotiations, ironing out the details. And for all we know all this came from O's agent trying squeeze an extra $50,000 out. A lot of smoke that last year they kept us in holding pattern trying to get money from LSU.

Coach O is ironing out a deal to get $550,000 plus up to 100k in incentives.

[Really Clark?]

http://blogs.theadvocate.com/tigertracks/mississippi-state-pursuing-lsus-ed-orgeron-while-orgeron-and-lsu-discuss-a-new-deal-sources-confirm/

That article I think was first written and sent out about 6 hours ago according to the Google timeline.

[Really Clark?]

Coach O is ironing out a deal to get $550,000 plus up to 100k in incentives.

Oh I know. Just an arbitrary number I threw out. Maybe they want $600,000. Ha

[Really Clark?]

And for those who don't think they keep up with what our fanbase think. From the Scoop:

The Advocate & NOLA are now confirming Miss State’s interest in O…but State fan thinks we made this up. Good job. Good effort. The passion in SEC fan bases is fantastic. Sometimes misguided but fantastic nonetheless.

Oh and good job Cadaver

[Todd4State]

I'd only want O and a D-line coach and recruiting coordinator. But David Turner is still here- and we're not going to force Turner out nor should we.

[bobcat91]

Allen has been on campus all day interviewing, but we offered the job to O? Just his agent trying to make him some money.

[preachermatt83]

Scoop is nowhere near the first to report this. Oh and... OGRE!!! Lol.

[It_Could_Happen]

I think it would be tough for him to turn down 900K unless he is dead set on not being a DC.

[preachermatt83]

I think it would be tough for him to turn down 900K unless he is dead set on not being a DC.

Also he knows he is on a lame duck staff.

[CadaverDawg]

Allen has been on campus all day interviewing, but we offered the job to O? Just his agent trying to make him some money.

Exactly

[preachermatt83]

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[msstate7]

I'd only want O and a D-line coach and recruiting coordinator. But David Turner is still here- and we're not going to force Turner out nor should we.

Allen -- lb's co-DC
Ed o -- dline co-DC

I wish

[Coach34]

Miles is no lame duck- don't be fooled. Will be his best team since 2011

[Todd4State]

Allen -- lb's co-DC
Ed o -- dline co-DC

I wish

I could definitely roll with that.

[RougeDawg]

Y'all are gonna learn about arguing with preacher when he says seemingly outlandish things... haha

Think it's a mistake to give him defensive playcalling, but what do I know

You honestly don't believe our defenses under Mullen have not all ultimately run through his final decision? Nothing really changes under each DC he has had except some gimmick slogan from "Juice" to "hawk tackling". Dan had his hand in the defense. The DC is mainly the figurehead.

[It_Could_Happen]

Paging if you only knew.

[Maroon_and_white]

You honestly don't believe our defenses under Mullen have not all ultimately run through his final decision? Nothing really changes under each DC he has had except some gimmick slogan from "Juice" to "hawk tackling". Dan had his hand in the defense. The DC is mainly the figurehead.

It was "strain" this past year

[GreenheadDawg]

Miles is no lame duck- don't be fooled. Will be his best team since 2011

They believe it's NC or bust this year. The problem is they still don't have a QB but they have talent out the ying yang in 2016

[Maroon_and_white]

Miles is no lame duck- don't be fooled. Will be his best team since 2011

Probably so, but Miles will find a way to go 10-2 again

[It_Could_Happen]

This is my opinion and feel free to disagree with me, but if he was a head coach and won games at USC, I think he can call the defense.

[engie]

You honestly don't believe our defenses under Mullen have not all ultimately run through his final decision? Nothing really changes under each DC he has had except some gimmick slogan from "Juice" to "hawk tackling". Dan had his hand in the defense. The DC is mainly the figurehead.

Read what you quoted. We might run Mullen's base defense -- but he's not calling the plays nor making the adjustments. There is art to defensive playcalling just like offensive playcalling. A DC at MSU is not even remotely a "figurehead".

[preachermatt83]

SMH!

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

If Mullen calls the plays on D and supposedly force the DC to run the same scheme then what does it matter who the DC is ? If the guy is going to be a puppet, I would at least like to have a puppet that can recruit elite players.

[Statefan]

Ross Dellenger Verified account

‏@RossDellenger
Updated: State's potential deal w/Orgeron worth $900K a year to be DC.

(again, #LSU & him discussing new contract) http://*******/1n6BAVn

[Bothrops]

If this is true, it's gonna cost a hell of a lot of money. I'm not sure I believe it.

[Really Clark?]

If Mullen is calling the defensive plays or is running the defense as well as all of his other duties, like some are alluding to, then he might very well be the best coach in the game today. He should be making $6-7 MIL per year at least and we should be thankful he is still here. Do some of you honestly believe he is doing that? When was the last coach that did that in college football? Who does that in high school? I'm sure y'all have to kidding about him actually calling the defense. Nobody really believes that I know. I know several believe he completely oversees the defense, but actual play calling as well?

[PassInterference]

Michael Bonner ‏@MikeBBonner 1m1 minute ago
In regards to Ed Orgeron, source tells me, he has not been interviewed at MSU yet, nor has he been offered the job.

I love how beat writers respond to message boards.

[gtowndawg]

Ross Dellenger Verified account

‏@RossDellenger
Updated: State's potential deal w/Orgeron worth $900K a year to be DC.

(again, #LSU & him discussing new contract) http://*******/1n6BAVn

Throw in a Hummer and seal the deal!

[BossDawg]

Oh and... OGRE!!! Lol.

The WILD BOYS!!!1!! **rips shirt off, throws a chair**

[Coursesuper]

V
If Mullen is calling the defensive plays or is running the defense as well as all of his other duties, like some are alluding to, then he might very well be the best coach in the game today. He should be making $6-7 MIL per year at least and we should be thankful he is still here. Do some of you honestly believe he is doing that? When was the last coach that did that in college football? Who does that in high school? I'm sure y'all have to kidding about him actually calling the defense. Nobody really believes that I know. I know several believe he completely oversees the defense, but actual play calling as well?

I don't know if anyone is saying that, but it's a fact that we have been in the same scheme since Mullen arrived. We have mixed in a few blitzes but it's still the same base and it might not always fit our personnel. It feels like a square peg in a round hole. But by damn this is how it's going to be.

[Really Clark?]

V

I don't know if anyone is saying that, but it's a fact that we have been in the same scheme since Mullen arrived. We have mixed in a few blitzes but it's still the same base and it might not always fit our personnel. It feels like a square peg in a round hole. But by damn this is how it's going to be.

It's was said just a few posts above. I think they were being sarcastic and how indepth they think he runs the defense, I don't know. The defense our first year with Torbush was not like what Diaz set up when he came. That's the defense we have been running.

[Spiderman]

If Mullen is calling the defensive plays or is running the defense as well as all of his other duties, like some are alluding to, then he might very well be the best coach in the game today. He should be making $6-7 MIL per year at least and we should be thankful he is still here. Do some of you honestly believe he is doing that? When was the last coach that did that in college football? Who does that in high school? I'm sure y'all have to kidding about him actually calling the defense. Nobody really believes that I know. I know several believe he completely oversees the defense, but actual play calling as well?

Mullen is not calling the plays on defense during games. I don't think any reasonable person believes that.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I still think it's Tom Allen.

[Coursesuper]

Mullen is not calling the plays on defense during games. I don't think any reasonable person believes that.

Reasonable, that gets kinda tough around here at times. I think that many don't know a football from a large piece of fecal matter.

[msstate7]

I still think it's Tom Allen.

As much as I like the thought of Ed o recruiting, I still want Allen

[Todd4State]

I still think it's Tom Allen.

I agree with you.

[Todd4State]

As much as I like the thought of Ed o recruiting, I still want Allen

Here's a crazy thought- Allen replaces Manny, Coach O replaces Sleepy?

Maybe Dan told Scott we have to do something to up our recruiting and maybe we'll overpay for Coach O to 'cruit.

Probably not but this Coach O stuff seems kind of random.

[ElitedawgRecruiting]

Don't seem random to me. We were all excited about Buckley earlier. Seems planted to me

[Liverpooldawg]

Football Scoop wants to stir our fanbase up, have negative publicity for us, or get hits on their site. They are 100% OM.

THIS. That site is UM mouthpiece

[RougeDawg]

Mullen is not calling the plays on defense during games. I don't think any reasonable person believes that.

Nobody said he was, but even Ray Charles can see that Dan has has his hand in every defense he's had and butted heads with his last DC's. That's no secret to those who haven't had their head in the sand or been living under a rock. Dan is too much of a control freak to allow his DC's to be the SC's. Our defense has hardly changed since Manny's first rodeo, So why does it matter who is our figure head DC as long as our recruiting is improved? The only changes our defenses have had from coordinator to coordinator has been the yearly "hype" or "phrase", i.e. Juice, hawk tackling, etc.

[HoopsDawg]

I'd only want O and a D-line coach and recruiting coordinator. But David Turner is still here- and we're not going to force Turner out nor should we.

You don't want your D-coordinator to be your D-line coach. The D-line coach is too important of a job. We did that with Chris Wilson and it was a failure. You typically want your D-coordinator to be your LB coach. O can coach LB's. To me, there is no downside in hiring Coach O. He will challenge Mullen, he's a great recruiter, and we will play aggressive on D.

[Really Clark?]

You don't want your D-coordinator to be your D-line coach. The D-line coach is too important of a job. We did that with Chris Wilson and it was a failure. You typically want your D-coordinator to be your LB coach. O can coach LB's. To me, there is no downside in hiring Coach O. He will challenge Mullen, he's a great recruiter, and we will play aggressive on D.

It's not so much about the position they coach as a DC than its a smaller percentage DL coaches that become DC. Most DC come from the LB or Safety position group. So it's natural for them to stay with those groups. That's why you don't see them coaching the line as much. Or they don't coach a position at all. Some of the best have been from the safety position but obviously there are just as good from the LB group.

[Really Clark?]

Nobody said he was, but even Ray Charles can see that Dan has has his hand in every defense he's had and butted heads with his last DC's. That's no secret to those who haven't had their head in the sand or been living under a rock. Dan is too much of a control freak to allow his DC's to be the SC's. Our defense has hardly changed since Manny's first rodeo, So why does it matter who is our figure head DC as long as our recruiting is improved? The only changes our defenses have had from coordinator to coordinator has been the yearly "hype" or "phrase", i.e. Juice, hawk tackling, etc.

Because a figurehead of a DC can't call a game or game plan.

[Dawgtini]

Matt Wyatt just tweeted:
Impeccable source:

Orgeron is ?way down? Mullen?s list for DC at #HailState

[mparkerfd20]

Throw in a Hummer and seal the deal!

Preachermat volunteers.

[Sacrifice]

Matt Wyatt just tweeted:
Impeccable source:

Orgeron is ?way down? Mullen?s list for DC at #HailState

At this point, I'm starting to get the feeling Dans going to hire somebody we've haven't talked about.

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

I still think it's Tom Allen..

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Coach O is in negotiations with Miles to get a contract extension and most likely a raise to $550,000 a year. We'd have to offer with a guaranteed 3 year contract at $1 million per year.

Heard on H2H that the heard offer was 900K…pure BS

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

At this point, I'm starting to get the feeling Dans going to hire somebody we've haven't talked about.

taking the safe and most likely road I see?ha me as well.

[yjnkdawg]

This whole thing on Mullen was going to make Coach O turn him down before he would consider anybody else was orchestrated by Football Scoops. Everybody else picked it up from that one OM run site and ran with it. All those who said this, used Football Scoops as their source. I guess some actually think that Football Scoops is a legitimate source and knows all?

[Really Clark?]

I have to admit, Steve is on them pretty hard about this "story":

So the deal is to start an unfounded rumor, then claim a guy must not want the job when the rumor is proven false. #NewDayInMedia

[Todd4State]

You don't want your D-coordinator to be your D-line coach. The D-line coach is too important of a job. We did that with Chris Wilson and it was a failure. You typically want your D-coordinator to be your LB coach. O can coach LB's. To me, there is no downside in hiring Coach O. He will challenge Mullen, he's a great recruiter, and we will play aggressive on D.

Actually, I don't want O as our DC. That's why I said in the OP I only want him as the d-line coach and recruiting coordinator. I want Tom Allen to be the DC at this point.

[Todd4State]

I have to admit, Steve is on them pretty hard about this "story":

So the deal is to start an unfounded rumor, then claim a guy must not want the job when the rumor is proven false. #NewDayInMedia

Knowing him, he is probably pissed that he didn't "scoop" everyone. That's usually when he is the most pissy.

[Really Clark?]

Knowing him, he is probably pissed that he didn't "scoop" everyone. That's usually when he is the most pissy.

Ha. True. But I don't disagree with what he is saying. Especially with that bunch of cur-dogs.

[yjnkdawg]

Don't seem random to me. We were all excited about Buckley earlier. Seems planted to me

Thank Football Scoops for stirring up our fan base again and others who picked up on their so-called breaking news and ran with it. I think people will find that any who said this used Football Scoops as their only source of information.

[defiantdog]

Thank Football Scoops for stirring up our fan base again and others who picked up on their so-called breaking news and ran with it. I think people will find that any who said this used Football Scoops as their only source of information.

There are people on this board with better sources than FootballScoop.com

[confucius say]

There are people on this board with better sources than FootballScoop.com

At least 10. Like I said earlier in this thread, it seemed apparent Allen was the guy, scoop drops this story, and then when it's Allen "state couldn't get their guy"

[Spiderman]

Whelp, Tucker is off the board

Bruce FeldmanVerified account
‏@BruceFeldmanCFB
#Alabama DB coach Mel Tucker is set to become the new DC on Kirby Smart's staff at #Georgia, source told

Tucker was never 'on the board."

[CadaverDawg]

As long as our fans continue to take the words of random idiots to heart, the random idiots will continue to feed shit.

I laughed when I first saw Orgerons name, bc it Never made sense. Start thinking for yourselves guys...Why would we hire a DL coach as our DC when we have turner? And do u really think we would overpay O by 400k to coach two positions he hasn't coached before? All of this after we just hired Buckley...so you know it's got to be a DC/LB coach.

Come on guys...we're our own worst enemy. I thought we all started talking about this shit to make fun of FootballScoop and to call them out...now all the sudden a couple of other random LSU beat writers throw out bogus figures that you know we wouldn't pay, & you believe it?! Over guys like Wyatt? Come on...we have to quit taking this type of troll bait as a fan base. It makes us all look like idiots.

And I wish someone could tell the Genespagers this...bc the majority of the Twitter meltdown that believed FootballScoop was a bunch of Genespagers that I could go on Twitter with a new handle tonight & tweet that Mullen was leaving to coach Track & Field and they'd believe it.

[CadaverDawg]

At least 10. Like I said earlier in this thread, it seemed apparent Allen was the guy, scoop drops this story, and then when it's Allen "state couldn't get their guy"

Only bc our dipshit portion of the fan base chooses to believe it. If people would laugh & make fun of FootballScoop, it would go away. But instead, we have people buy it and freak the **** out

[Todd4State]

As long as our fans continue to take the words of random idiots to heart, the random idiots will continue to feed shit.

I laughed when I first saw Orgerons name, bc it Never made sense. Start thinking for yourselves guys...Why would we hire a DL coach as our DC when we have turner? And do u really think we would overpay O by 400k to coach two positions he hasn't coached before? All of this after we just hired Buckley...so you know it's got to be a DC/LB coach.

Come on guys...we're our own worst enemy. I thought we all started talking about this shit to make fun of FootballScoop and to call them out...now all the sudden a couple of other random LSU beat writers throw out bogus figures that you know we wouldn't pay, & you believe it?! Over guys like Wyatt? Come on...we have to quit taking this type of troll bait as a fan base. It makes us all look like idiots.

And I wish someone could tell the Genespagers this...bc the majority of the Twitter meltdown that believed FootballScoop was a bunch of Genespagers that I could go on Twitter with a new handle tonight & tweet that Mullen was leaving to coach Track & Field and they'd believe it.

That's why I said it seemed so random. The only way it would ever make sense is if Turner was leaving. Lance Thompson is the DL coach at South Carolina now, so that rumored destination is out the window. The ONLY way I could see this even being plausible is if Turner was leaving to be the DC at Jackson State. And personally, I don't think that would happen either since JSU hired Dwayne Curry to coach the d-line.

And the other thing to remember here is Ole Miss fans want Tom Allen back at some point. Trying to make a mess of things among our fanbase is something that is in their favor, not ours.

[Noxdog]

As long as our fans continue to take the words of random idiots to heart, the random idiots will continue to feed shit.

I laughed when I first saw Orgerons name, bc it Never made sense. Start thinking for yourselves guys...Why would we hire a DL coach as our DC when we have turner? And do u really think we would overpay O by 400k to coach two positions he hasn't coached before? All of this after we just hired Buckley...so you know it's got to be a DC/LB coach.

Come on guys...we're our own worst enemy. I thought we all started talking about this shit to make fun of FootballScoop and to call them out...now all the sudden a couple of other random LSU beat writers throw out bogus figures that you know we wouldn't pay, & you believe it?! Over guys like Wyatt? Come on...we have to quit taking this type of troll bait as a fan base. It makes us all look like idiots.

And I wish someone could tell the Genespagers this...bc the majority of the Twitter meltdown that believed FootballScoop was a bunch of Genespagers that I could go on Twitter with a new handle tonight & tweet that Mullen was leaving to coach Track & Field and they'd believe it.

At some point in time our fanbase has to start acted like we have been there.


If EO is DC, color me shocked, Sorry preach.

[mcain31]

That's why I said it seemed so random. The only way it would ever make sense is if Turner was leaving. Lance Thompson is the DL coach at South Carolina now, so that rumored destination is out the window. The ONLY way I could see this even being plausible is if Turner was leaving to be the DC at Jackson State. And personally, I don't think that would happen either since JSU hired Dwayne Curry to coach the d-line.

And the other thing to remember here is Ole Miss fans want Tom Allen back at some point. Trying to make a mess of things among our fanbase is something that is in their favor, not ours.

JSU has already hired a DC and OC.

[Bucky Dog]

I could definitely roll with that.

This is what will happen. Preacher said it early and I've heard it as well.

[Dawgtini]

Coaching Search just posted:

Mississippi State: Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman reports Dan Mullen did not offer LSU defensive line coach Ed Orgeron the MSU defensive coordinator job, and that talks never got that far. Orgeron wants to remain at LSU.

[Really Clark?]

Coaching Search just posted:

Mississippi State: Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman reports Dan Mullen did not offer LSU defensive line coach Ed Orgeron the MSU defensive coordinator job, and that talks never got that far. Orgeron wants to remain at LSU.

Yep. And UNM Scoop Network posted this from Godfrey. No bias from them at all.

Yesterday I mentioned the SEC passion. Added “often misguided” …

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[Spiderman]

Yep. And UNM Scoop Network posted this from Godfrey. No bias from them at all.

Yesterday I mentioned the SEC passion. Added “often misguided” …

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Ha ha! That dude is off his meds. Funny stuff

[engie]

Coaching Search just posted:

Mississippi State: Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman reports Dan Mullen did not offer LSU defensive line coach Ed Orgeron the MSU defensive coordinator job, and that talks never got that far. Orgeron wants to remain at LSU.

I actually think Coaching Search is ran by a "neutral" third party now that that particular Roussell brother got another gig. Vannini is a Michigan State grad.

[preachermatt83]

Coaching Search just posted:

Mississippi State: Fox Sports’ Bruce Feldman reports Dan Mullen did not offer LSU defensive line coach Ed Orgeron the MSU defensive coordinator job, and that talks never got that far. Orgeron wants to remain at LSU.

Read between the lines... Talks never got that far BECAUSE O wanted to stay at LSU.

[Op4isabitch]

Read between the lines... Talks never got that far BECAUSE O wanted to stay at LSU.

I don't think that's 100% accurate. Several people close to the program said O wasn't high on CDM's list but he was one of several candidates on the list. Sounds more likely that he wasn't getting the job anyway and he was O.K with that outcome.

Edited,
Because of the stupid stars covering our coaches name.

[RougeDawg]

All I know is that Dellenger does not post something unless he is damn near 100% positive that it is true. Go back and look through his feed on similar issues. He is constantly pissing off LSU people because of his tweets about things they want to keep quiet, and his sources are usually spot on. It's most likely that we have offered O for a position on staff. What else would we offer $900k for? Bagman?

[DawgPoundLazer]

This sounds like the work of Jimmy Sexton....wonder if he is O's agent.

[Political Hack]

Ogre was never a serious candidate for the job. He's not a Mullen type guy and it would've been an awful fit that would've likely ended in a brawl between Ogre and Hev. CDM may have reached out to see if he'd be potentially interested in a position coaching spot or maybe a co-DC spot where he's not calling the plays, at which point Ogre realized it's a lateral move and said no thank you. That's the most plausible explanation.

[RougeDawg]

Ogre was never a serious candidate for the job. He's not a Mullen type guy and it would've been an awful fit that would've likely ended in a brawl between Ogre and Hev. CDM may have reached out to see if he'd be potentially interested in a position coaching spot or maybe a co-DC spot where he's not calling the plays, at which point Ogre realized it's a lateral move and said no thank you. That's the most plausible explanation.

You act as if this would be a bad thing. May be the only way we can rid ourselves of Hev.