Sleepy to JSU [Archive]

Big4Dawg

01-07-2016, 10:12 AM

Sleepy is indeed going to JSU w/ Hughes.

Jackson State (FCS): In addition to the news of Dwayne Curry coming (reported last night), sources tell FootballScoop that Mississippi State recruiting specialist Sleepy Robinson is leaving to become running backs coach / recruiting coordinator at Jackson State.

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop

Political Hack

01-07-2016, 10:20 AM

I thought this happened a month ago?

Losing Sleepy and Tony in recruiting is going to hurt us. I don't care how you slice it.

Spiderman

01-07-2016, 10:26 AM

Not surprising at all. Sleepy wasn't making much here and he wasn't happy about it. Plus, he wants back on the field

BrunswickDawg

01-07-2016, 10:27 AM

I wish we had Curry on staff - one of my all time favorite Dawgs!

MafiaDawg

01-07-2016, 10:27 AM

Maybe we can bring someone who can get our recruiting efforts more "organized" if you know what I mean.

Big4Dawg

01-07-2016, 10:27 AM

I thought this happened a month ago?

Losing Sleepy and Tony in recruiting is going to hurt us. I don't care how you slice it.

Some were saying he was staying and moving to on the field

ShotgunDawg

01-07-2016, 10:36 AM

Congrats to Sleepy. Hopefully, he goes to JSU, builds his resume & on-field experience, & MSU hires him in 5 years to an on field position.

I'm all for hiring ex players into on-field positions, so long as they have worked their way up in the industry & are among the most qualified for the job.

mic

01-07-2016, 10:42 AM

I thought this happened a month ago?

Losing Sleepy and Tony in recruiting is going to hurt us. I don't care how you slice it.

Agree... But we need new fresh faces .. New excitement ..
Hopefully he goes there learns under coach Hughes a few years, builds some good relationships, and we can get him back at MSU down the road

yjnkdawg

01-07-2016, 10:43 AM

Not surprising at all. Sleepy wasn't making much here and he wasn't happy about it. Plus, he wants back on the field

I was shocked when I saw what he was being paid.

Ifyouonlyknew

01-07-2016, 10:44 AM

Paul mentioned this a while back but we should hire Chad Bumphus in Sleepy's old job.

mic

01-07-2016, 10:45 AM

Paul mentioned this a while back but we should hire Chad Bumphus in Sleepy's old job.

I like that ... A lot ...

Political Hack

01-07-2016, 10:46 AM

Agree... But we need new fresh faces .. New excitement ..
Hopefully he goes there learns under coach Hughes a few years, builds some good relationships, and we can get him back at MSU down the road

Yeah, it could be an improvement over time but it'll take time. You can one up a Tony Hughes overnight in MS recruiting.

I know for the first time in my life I'll have some incentive to see JSU win ball games. Would love to see Hughes be successful there.

yjnkdawg

01-07-2016, 10:50 AM

I thought this happened a month ago?

Losing Sleepy and Tony in recruiting is going to hurt us. I don't care how you slice it.

I had thought there was a plan to get Sleepy on the field and more money, but apparently that never materialized for some reason?

War Machine Dawg

01-07-2016, 10:54 AM

I had thought there was a plan to get Sleepy on the field and more money, but apparently that never materialized for some reason?

Hate to say it, but it appears Dan is more loyal to his "boyz" Hev & Sallach than doing the right thing for the program when it comes to making staff changes.

mic

01-07-2016, 10:56 AM

I had thought there was a plan to get Sleepy on the field and more money, but apparently that never materialized for some reason?

His role at JSU will be 100x more involved with that program than it would be here..
Good for him... I'm sure he would jump at offer to come back here down the road if something bigger opens up...

mic

01-07-2016, 10:57 AM

Hate to say it, but it appears Dan is more loyal to his "boyz" Hev & Sallach than doing the right thing for the program when it comes to making staff changes.

I agree with this 100%.....
We have to lose the Country Club mentality ... That's when the AD needs to step in... And that won't happen here.

DawgPoundLazer

01-07-2016, 11:05 AM

Really Clark?

01-07-2016, 11:12 AM

Agree with this statement. Will be nice to get some fresh faces/energy with the new hires, but I wish the coaching changes would have held off until after signing day. Going to be difficult to sign a guy like Jeffrey Simmons, when he has less than a month to figure out how he fits into our new defensive scheme.

Uh....disagree. Look around the country. This is the time of coaching changes. As long as we get settled before OV start we are in good shape. You wait until after signing day and you are short handed during the crucial recruiting push and are looking at leftovers possibly for coaches.

engie

01-07-2016, 11:15 AM

Footballscoop.
They are "first to announce" when something perceived as negative for MSU is reported. Yet no word of Buckley even talking to us...

Dawgtini

01-07-2016, 11:17 AM

Hate to say it, but it appears Dan is more loyal to his "boyz" Hev & Sallach than doing the right thing for the program when it comes to making staff changes.

1649

ShotgunDawg

01-07-2016, 11:19 AM

Hate to say it, but it appears Dan is more loyal to his "boyz" Hev & Sallach than doing the right thing for the program when it comes to making staff changes.

I get that people like Sleepy, but why would you guys want an on-field coach that has no D1 coaching experience?

Sleepy may end up being a great coach, & I hope he is, but I want experienced people that have had success at other places before hiring them for an on-field coaching position.

At times, I wonder if we are loyal to a fault. MSU is in the business of winning, not providing jobs to former players.

MSUDawg99

01-07-2016, 11:20 AM

Paul mentioned this a while back but we should hire Chad Bumphus in Sleepy's old job.

I told Chad the same thing on Twitter. He said he's been trying to talk to Dan for a long time now about bein on staff but there hadn't been a position open. Guess we'll see what happens though...whether Dan will follow through on that or not. You gotta know Chad aint wanting to continue selling insurance forever & wants to get back around the game.

MSUDawg99

01-07-2016, 11:24 AM

Agree with this statement. Will be nice to get some fresh faces/energy with the new hires, but I wish the coaching changes would have held off until after signing day. Going to be difficult to sign a guy like Jeffrey Simmons, when he has less than a month to figure out how he fits into our new defensive scheme.

T Buck is one of the guys recruiting Simmons for Louisville. So you would have to know he'd recruit him here. He's recruiting Nigel Knott too. So there's some familiarity with some of our recruits & T Buck already.

ShotgunDawg

01-07-2016, 11:25 AM

I told Chad the same thing on Twitter. He said he's been trying to talk to Dan for a long time now about bein on staff but there hadn't been a position open. Guess we'll see what happens though...whether Dan will follow through on that or not. You gotta know Chad aint wanting to continue selling insurance forever & wants to get back around the game.

Just curious, why is Chad the right person for this job?

PendingTransaction

01-07-2016, 11:25 AM

I agree with this 100%.....
We have to lose the Country Club mentality ... That's when the AD needs to step in... And that won't happen here.

You are 100% correct!

MSUDawg99

01-07-2016, 11:29 AM

Just curious, why is Chad the right person for this job?

Would work well with recruits imo.

Ifyouonlyknew

01-07-2016, 11:31 AM

Just curious, why is Chad the right person for this job?

It's a 100% recruiting position. Chad has a great personality so he'd do well with the coaches. More importantly he was a big time, highly publicized recruit so he can understand & speak to the kids going through it because he was just them a few years ago.

Maroon_and_white

01-07-2016, 11:33 AM

I agree with this 100%.....
We have to lose the Country Club mentality ... That's when the AD needs to step in... And that won't happen here.

You're right, that's what Scott needs to do. He needs to step in and tell Dan. "Dan, this has to stop, Sallach and Hev must go!" Because when your boss, who makes significantly less money than you do and has no idea about coaching football, steps in and tells you how to handle your staff everything works out perfect!**

DawgPoundLazer

01-07-2016, 11:36 AM

ShotgunDawg

01-07-2016, 11:38 AM

Really Clark?

01-07-2016, 11:57 AM

I'm referring to our coaches leaving before signing day. Wish we could have somehow held onto them until after signing day. Obviously, we need to get those positions filled before signing day otherwise we are SOL on our key targets.

Again, this is when the coaching world moves. And as you have seen recently, just last year at UCLA, when a coach tries to stay and keep a move under wraps until after signing day it can backfire. Lost a highly rated kid who got wind that the coach was leaving and wouldn't sign his LOI. Just too many changes happens this time of year to hope to hang on to a guy.

Valyrian Steel

01-07-2016, 12:02 PM

Paul mentioned this a while back but we should hire Chad Bumphus in Sleepy's old job.

That would make The Slant pretty interesting.

engie

01-07-2016, 12:05 PM

Obviously, we need to get those positions filled before signing day otherwise we are SOL on our key targets.

And we will. Always do...

War Machine Dawg

01-07-2016, 12:17 PM

I get that people like Sleepy, but why would you guys want an on-field coach that has no D1 coaching experience?

Sleepy may end up being a great coach, & I hope he is, but I want experienced people that have had success at other places before hiring them for an on-field coaching position.

At times, I wonder if we are loyal to a fault. MSU is in the business of winning, not providing jobs to former players.

I'm not suggesting we place him in a critical coaching role like QB coach. You basically swap the current roles of he & Sallach. Frankly, I don't know what Sallach has done as a coach that Sleepy couldn't do and we instantly upgrade crootin. I'm normally against the MSU Country Club hires, but we're losing essentially every MS crootin connection we have with both Hughes & Sleepy leaving. It's essential to have at least one guy on staff HS coaches know & trust. As it stands right now, we've got the Yankee Squad they all hate. If you think that isn't going to show up in crootin, you're kidding yourself.

Ifyouonlyknew

01-07-2016, 12:20 PM

War Machine Dawg

01-07-2016, 12:20 PM

Again, this is when the coaching world moves. And as you have seen recently, just last year at UCLA, when a coach tries to stay and keep a move under wraps until after signing day it can backfire. Lost a highly rated kid who got wind that the coach was leaving and wouldn't sign his LOI. Just too many changes happens this time of year to hope to hang on to a guy.

I'm thinking Lazer is either 1) a troll or 2) completely clueless about how college football works. This is the second time in this thread he's posted that stupid shit after having it spelled out for him.

War Machine Dawg

01-07-2016, 12:22 PM

I get what you're saying but Buckley on the coast, Knox in central MS, & Deshea in North MS should be ok.

Assuming we hire Buckley, that'll be a big help. And Deshea is one of our best recruiters for sure. I'm not sold on Knox, but since you're the boss, I'll take your word that he's a guy MS coaches like and trust. Now get off the board and go finalise the DC hire.

yjnkdawg

01-07-2016, 12:25 PM

I'm referring to our coaches leaving before signing day. Wish we could have somehow held onto them until after signing day. Obviously, we need to get those positions filled before signing day otherwise we are SOL on our key targets.

The key is to get the postions filled prior to the big recruiting weekend (Jan 22), which should happen.

PendingTransaction

01-07-2016, 12:53 PM

Assuming we hire Buckley, that'll be a big help. And Deshea is one of our best recruiters for sure. I'm not sold on Knox, but since you're the boss, I'll take your word that he's a guy MS coaches like and trust. Now get off the board and go finalise the DC hire.
I wouldn't put much hope in Knox filling Tony's shoes. He would be afraid to talk to a recruit without Mullen present, even if it had to be via FaceTime. Dude has no opinion other than "that's right boss."

tcdog70

01-07-2016, 12:56 PM

Why not hire Omarr to take Sleepy's place?

Ifyouonlyknew

01-07-2016, 01:04 PM

I wouldn't put much hope in Knox filling Tony's shoes. He would be afraid to talk to a recruit without Mullen present, even if it had to be via FaceTime. Dude has no opinion other than "that's right boss."

We have different opinions on Knox. He was the primary for Fletcher Adams & Malik Dear. He also got Cam Dantzler. Also the RB's love him & we've recruited well at his position (Shump, Aeris, & Gibson all 4* plus Kylin Hill & Cam Akers next year are highly rated).

louisvilledawg

01-07-2016, 01:22 PM

We have different opinions on Knox. He was the primary for Fletcher Adams & Malik Dear. He also got Cam Dantzler. Also the RB's love him & we've recruited well at his position (Shump, Aeris, & Gibson all 4* plus Kylin Hill & Cam Akers next year are highly rated).

Do you think Cam will even give us a look? Thought he was set on going to bama

Big4Dawg

01-07-2016, 01:30 PM

They aren't going to the same school and we'll get Hill. Rather him go to Bama than OM

DawgPoundLazer

01-07-2016, 03:27 PM

War machine... No troll. Just think your observations about the college football coaching circles make as much sense as Jackie sherill letting Wayne Madkin road dog his daughter. Just saying.

Todd4State

01-07-2016, 05:32 PM

Do you think Cam will even give us a look? Thought he was set on going to bama

Yes.

PendingTransaction

01-07-2016, 05:45 PM

War machine... No troll. Just think your observations about the college football coaching circles make as much sense as Jackie sherill letting Wayne Madkin road dog his daughter. Just saying.

what the fxxk?

Spiderman

01-07-2016, 06:31 PM

I'm not suggesting we place him in a critical coaching role like QB coach. You basically swap the current roles of he & Sallach. Frankly, I don't know what Sallach has done as a coach that Sleepy couldn't do and we instantly upgrade crootin. I'm normally against the MSU Country Club hires, but we're losing essentially every MS crootin connection we have with both Hughes & Sleepy leaving. It's essential to have at least one guy on staff HS coaches know & trust. As it stands right now, we've got the Yankee Squad they all hate. If you think that isn't going to show up in crootin, you're kidding yourself.

Look, I love Sleepy. We were in school together and played some pickup basketball a bunch. He was a hell of a player and a decent HS coach. But truth be told, he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer and anybody that has been around him, and will tell the truth, would say the same. He a great guy and fun to be around but I don't see him being a significant upgrade. There is a reason he was in the position he was in, at the salary he was at.

I'll get hammered for saying that, but It's the truth

Dawg61

01-07-2016, 06:38 PM

Hate to say it, but it appears Dan is more loyal to his "boyz" Hev & Sallach than doing the right thing for the program when it comes to making staff changes.

You don't hate to say it

was21

01-07-2016, 06:56 PM

Hate to say it but he's not going to upgrade his resume by coaching in the SWAC. On the other hand, can understand Hughes taking a job like that just to be a HC.

sandwolf

01-08-2016, 05:22 PM

But truth be told, he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer and anybody that has been around him, and will tell the truth, would say the same. He a great guy and fun to be around....

I heard him speak at an event a few months back, and this was exactly how he came across to me. He was as personable and as likable as anyone that I have been around, but I was only able to decipher about 60% of what he said (and that may be a little generous).

jumbo

01-08-2016, 06:23 PM

It's a 100% recruiting position. Chad has a great personality so he'd do well with the coaches. More importantly he was a big time, highly publicized recruit so he can understand & speak to the kids going through it because he was just them a few years ago.

I remember him being pretty outspoken about turning down OM money to play where he wanted to play and it was the best decision he ever made (or something like that...it was a few years ago).
Like you said he'd be able to related to the kids and tell them about his experience

Coach34

01-08-2016, 06:45 PM

Look, I love Sleepy. We were in school together and played some pickup basketball a bunch. He was a hell of a player and a decent HS coach. But truth be told, he ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer and anybody that has been around him, and will tell the truth, would say the same. He a great guy and fun to be around but I don't see him being a significant upgrade. There is a reason he was in the position he was in, at the salary he was at.

I'll get hammered for saying that, but It's the truth

Sleepy is just a really good guy that has some charisma. He is a really good recruiter- but he wont ever be a top notch coach. But those guys have a role in your program. Hate we lost him