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Coach34
01-03-2016, 08:10 PM
some people above my paygrade think its going to be Tom Allen

CadaverDawg
01-03-2016, 08:14 PM
That's a solid hire if so. Could definitely do worse IMO, what do you think?

Oh, and is the Buckley talk more wishful thinking by State fans, or is that a realistic and even "likely" Safeties hire?

msstate7
01-03-2016, 08:15 PM
Don't know about who usf had back from last year, but points were down around 5 per game. Sacks, tfl, and ints were way up

Eric Nies Grind Time
01-03-2016, 08:17 PM
Would be a great hire.

runwildjerious
01-03-2016, 08:18 PM
http://www.tbo.com/sports/colleges/usf-bulls/usf-dc-tom-allen-takes-heart-to-heart-approach-with-bulls-20151125/

Seems like a good fit if true. Has been with Freeze at multiple stops. If you can't beat 'em...

msstate7
01-03-2016, 08:20 PM
How's his recruiting? I think he's good at coaching

CadaverDawg
01-03-2016, 08:23 PM
How's his recruiting? I think he's good at coaching

Ha, hopefully it's better than this...

http://247sports.com/Coach/Tom-Allen-1497

Leroy Jenkins
01-03-2016, 08:28 PM
How's his recruiting? I think he's good at coaching

If switchblade kincade is the highest recruit you have ever signed you are not being hired to recruit.

HancockCountyDog
01-03-2016, 08:29 PM
Ha, hopefully it's better than this...

http://247sports.com/Coach/Tom-Allen-1497

Hell of a coach, not much of a recruiter.

Really Clark?
01-03-2016, 08:29 PM
What was told the last few years was Allen was heavily involved in UNM defensive play calling. Did a really good job at USF. Very good hire if true. UNM went from #1 to bottom half of the league this. Turned down Auburn job supposedly. I posted before the season that I thought UNM defense would go down this year without him.

msstate7
01-03-2016, 08:30 PM
That's a solid hire if so. Could definitely do worse IMO, what do you think?

Oh, and is the Buckley talk more wishful thinking by State fans, or is that a realistic and even "likely" Safeties hire?

I hope Buckley is a real possibility. He's already recruiting Simmons and knott

Coursesuper
01-03-2016, 08:31 PM
I can confirm this rumor, heard the same thing today.

msstate7
01-03-2016, 08:31 PM
What was told the last few years was Allen was heavily involved in UNM defensive play calling. Did a really good job at USF. Very good hire if true. UNM went from #1 to bottom half of the league this. Turned down Auburn job supposedly. I posted before the season that I thought UNM defense would go down this year without him.

If he really turned down auburn, I don't like our chances

PendingTransaction
01-03-2016, 08:32 PM
Would be a good hire, about a tenth as good as Nate Woody.

Ifyouonlyknew
01-03-2016, 08:32 PM
If he really turned down auburn, I don't like our chances

Why? Several coaches turned down Auburn including Manny.

Coach34
01-03-2016, 08:33 PM
If he really turned down auburn, I don't like our chances

Coaches are scared of Auburn and view 2016 as the last one for the Gus Bus

msstate7
01-03-2016, 08:34 PM
Why? Several coaches turned down Auburn including Manny.

Just seems if he was itching to get in the sec, he'd have jumped on auburn. Would he want to come to his coaching buddy's (freeze) rival? I hope so

Really Clark?
01-03-2016, 08:34 PM
If he really turned down auburn, I don't like our chances

Supposedly several have turned Auburn, including Diaz twice. They were on the edge of a complete disaster with DC hire.

Really Clark?
01-03-2016, 08:38 PM
Would be a good hire, about a tenth as good as Nate Woody.

I like Woody as well and if gets an opportunity could be pretty good but don't be ridiculous. Allen is every bit as good.

Coach34
01-03-2016, 08:39 PM
Would be a good hire, about a tenth as good as Nate Woody.

meh- if we gonna disappointed about someone- I'd say Mel Tucker. He could have been a really good choice. Looks like he may be headed to Georgia

BossDawg
01-03-2016, 08:43 PM
Ha, hopefully it's better than this...

http://247sports.com/Coach/Tom-Allen-1497

That's too much to ask at State. We can't have a good coach AND a good recruiter.

Ifyouonlyknew
01-03-2016, 08:46 PM
That's too much to ask at State. We can't have a good coach AND a good recruiter.

There's only a handful of elite recruiters & big time Coordinators in the country.

Lumpy Chucklelips
01-03-2016, 08:53 PM
"Men, you?ve got to give relentless effort, just out of love for each other."

He learned from the master.

Todd4State
01-03-2016, 08:55 PM
I think Allen would be a great hire. And he might even improve our special teams some too. Plus Ole Miss has an attacking defense. I'll be interested to see if Allen implements some of that with is if he was hired.

ElitedawgRecruiting
01-03-2016, 08:57 PM
He was hands down their best defensive coach at Ole Miss. And it wasn't even close

mic
01-03-2016, 08:57 PM
Parker probably laughed at our offer.... $$$$

Really Clark?
01-03-2016, 09:03 PM
Allen's first year took USF from 66th to 35th in scoring, 71st to 52nd in total, 85th to 31st in rush, 52nd to 85th in passing, 97th to 24th in sacks, 82nd to 17th tackles for loss, and 112 to 14th in interceptions.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
01-03-2016, 09:05 PM
What makes anyone think that we're suddenly going to start changing our recruiting philosophy? I don't see where we'll ever "cater" enough to elite prospects and we'll be a developmental program as long as Mullen is here. I say we hire the best instructors we can.

EngineerDawg
01-03-2016, 09:09 PM
What makes anyone think that we're suddenly going to start changing our recruiting philosophy? I don't see where we'll ever "cater" enough to elite prospects and we'll be a developmental program as long as Mullen is here. I say we hire the best instructors we can.

Don't forget the Bracky effect.

Irondawg
01-03-2016, 09:18 PM
I'd be on board with the hire. Has DC experience now and knows the state.

Bucky Dog
01-03-2016, 11:06 PM
Can we not hire either Thompson, Allen or Tucker AND Ogre? Maybe O wouldn't share the Co DC title but maybe he will. Let him recruit and coach DL, let Thompson coach LB and call plays and schemes, and hire Buckley for DB's! Now let's make that shit happen!!

Ifyouonlyknew
01-03-2016, 11:27 PM
Can we not hire either Thompson, Allen or Tucker AND Ogre? Maybe O wouldn't share the Co DC title but maybe he will. Let him recruit and coach DL, let Thompson coach LB and call plays and schemes, and hire Buckley for DB's! Now let's make that shit happen!!

No. He turned down USC for the exact same thing.

NCDawg
01-03-2016, 11:36 PM
Can we not hire either Thompson, Allen or Tucker AND Ogre? Maybe O wouldn't share the Co DC title but maybe he will. Let him recruit and coach DL, let Thompson coach LB and call plays and schemes, and hire Buckley for DB's! Now let's make that shit happen!!

Best suggestion I've seen on this page.

Coach007
01-03-2016, 11:53 PM
Coach O will not be at MSU...

Homedawg
01-03-2016, 11:56 PM
Don't forget the Bracky effect.

Ugh...for someone who is as dumb as Yall think, he sure has some power beyond belief.....he can't stop extra benefits....he just can't approve them, it's sorta his ****ing job.

Dawg61
01-04-2016, 12:10 AM
Ugh...for someone who is as dumb as Yall think, he sure has some power beyond belief.....he can't stop extra benefits....he just can't approve them, it's sorta his ****ing job.

Suspending Redmond 18 games isn't his job. That's like Toyota recalling all Prius's cause yours has a flat tire.

NCDawg
01-04-2016, 02:45 AM
Coach O will not be at MSU...

Regrettably, you're probably right. We won't do what's necessary to win at MSU. All of us can forget getting to Atlanta any time soon, or probably in our lifetime.

WesternSkyDawg
01-04-2016, 03:54 AM
Regrettably, you're probably right. We won't do what's necessary to win at MSU. All of us can forget getting to Atlanta any time soon, or probably in our lifetime.

P***y

I was there last time

Next time will be just as glorious

Can't imagine having no hope of going back

Must be what it feels like to be a Rebel

Spiderman
01-04-2016, 09:44 AM
I like Allen, but afraid he wouldn't come because of the Freeze Factor. Freeze knows Womack will hang it up soon. Hell, Womack doesn't even off campus recruit. Freeze is in Allen's ear, if State is talking to him, telling him State is a dumpster fire and that he will be OM's DC soon.

LC Dawg
01-04-2016, 11:52 AM
I like Allen, but afraid he wouldn't come because of the Freeze Factor. Freeze knows Womack will hang it up soon. Hell, Womack doesn't even off campus recruit. Freeze is in Allen's ear, if State is talking to him, telling him State is a dumpster fire and that he will be OM's DC soon.

This is what I was wondering about. How close are Allen and Freeze? I know Allen was also with him at Arky State and Lambuth. I guess it really doesn't matter since Freeze talks on the phone with our defensive lineman. He may as well talk with our defensive coordinator.

NCDawg
01-04-2016, 11:58 AM
I think Allen would be a great hire. And he might even improve our special teams some too. Plus Ole Miss has an attacking defense. I'll be interested to see if Allen implements some of that with is if he was hired.

Does it not concern you that South Florida's defense got trampled in their final game against Western Kentucky?

Really Clark?
01-04-2016, 12:30 PM
Does it not concern you that South Florida's defense got trampled in their final game against Western Kentucky?

If you cherry pick one game nobody will look that great in your eyes, especially a bowl game. They held FSU to 34 points, Memphis to 24, ranked Temple to 23, and the bowl game was back and forth against one of the best offenses in the country. In Allen's first year.

ShotgunDawg
01-04-2016, 12:52 PM
Appears that Buckley will be interviewed this week for the safety's spot. I think this just about appears to be a done deal.

Statefan
01-04-2016, 12:59 PM
Appears that Buckley will be interviewed this week for the safety's spot. I think this just about appears to be a done deal.

That's good news! He has to be attracted to the job with all the talent he has to work with

ShotgunDawg
01-04-2016, 01:09 PM
Delete

Coach007
01-04-2016, 01:10 PM
Seriously? Again with the "Mullen wants out" so he's going to slow the hiring process..aka, not do his job, and hurt MSU because he wants out...

CadaverDawg
01-04-2016, 01:12 PM
I wonder if Mullen is slow playing these hirings to see if Brian Kelly leaves Notre Dame for the New York Giants?

http://i.imgur.com/lfL0UvH.gif

NeshobaChuck
01-04-2016, 01:21 PM
So apparently Hopson and Buckley have both interviewed anybody know if this is true??

Dawg496
01-04-2016, 01:35 PM
So apparently Hopson and Buckley have both interviewed anybody know if this is true??

Who is reporting this? And both for the safeties position? Seems like Buckley would be our preferred candidate if he'll come given his experience.

NeshobaChuck
01-04-2016, 01:57 PM
I'm assuming Hopson interviewed for DC spot and Buckley safeties. And they guy I asked said that Paul had said they interviewed

Coach34
01-04-2016, 01:58 PM
I know we have talked to Buckley- can't say about Hopson

Op4isabitch
01-04-2016, 02:03 PM
Paul indicated that Hopson was interviewed/interviewing for the safeties coach position, not DC.

NeshobaChuck
01-04-2016, 02:27 PM
So Buckley possibly DC??

Ifyouonlyknew
01-04-2016, 02:28 PM
So Buckley possibly DC??

No

PendingTransaction
01-04-2016, 02:30 PM
Please let it be Hopson as DC!!!!

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-04-2016, 02:32 PM
wth so great about Hopson?

PendingTransaction
01-04-2016, 02:37 PM
wth so great about Hopson?

He's the perfect fit for our program. Can you imagine how grateful he would be to Mullen for a second chance as a "big boy" DC? It would just be good for football.

Op4isabitch
01-04-2016, 02:38 PM
I'd prefer Thompson or Allen over Hopson from what I've read so far.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-04-2016, 02:40 PM
so a good story for football...a second chance....ok I get it...an experiment. I think we need to do more than shoot an arrow and hope it lands on target. We need a freaking rocket launcher who we know can hit target.

PendingTransaction
01-04-2016, 02:44 PM
so a good story for football...a second chance....ok I get it...an experiment. I think we need to do more than shoot an arrow and hope it lands on target. We need a freaking rocket launcher who we know can hit target.

I agree. But I don't think rocket launchers fit well in our program.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
01-04-2016, 02:48 PM
Well maybe they should! If we are going to progress even further than we have we have to shake things up.

CadaverDawg
01-04-2016, 02:56 PM
He's the perfect fit for our program. Can you imagine how grateful he would be to Mullen for a second chance as a "big boy" DC? It would just be good for football.

What the hell? "Good for football"? Screw that, I want to freaking WIN. We aren't going to move up by hiring Hopson at DC. Hell, Croom was "good for football" and somebody else can do what's good for football from now on, not us. Winning is what's "good for football" at MSU. Hopson would be a good Safeties hire, but a poor DC hire.

gtowndawg
01-04-2016, 02:58 PM
What the hell? "Good for football"? Screw that, I want to freaking WIN. We aren't going to move up by hiring Hopson at DC. Hell, Croom was "good for football" and somebody else can do what's good for football from now on, not us. Winning is what's "good for football" at MSU. Hopson would be a good Safeties hire, but a poor DC hire.

Amen.

War Machine Dawg
01-04-2016, 03:15 PM
I'd prefer Thompson or Allen over Hopson from what I've read so far.

Add Tucker to the list as well. Hopson is about my 8th choice.

War Machine Dawg
01-04-2016, 03:18 PM
What the hell? "Good for football"? Screw that, I want to freaking WIN. We aren't going to move up by hiring Hopson at DC. Hell, Croom was "good for football" and somebody else can do what's good for football from now on, not us. Winning is what's "good for football" at MSU. Hopson would be a good Safeties hire, but a poor DC hire.

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smootness
01-04-2016, 03:20 PM
He's the perfect fit for our program. Can you imagine how grateful he would be to Mullen for a second chance as a "big boy" DC? It would just be good for football.

As grateful as Manny Diaz was?

Coach007
01-04-2016, 03:50 PM
Regrettably, you're probably right. We won't do what's necessary to win at MSU. All of us can forget getting to Atlanta any time soon, or probably in our lifetime.

Even now the sources are letting it leak out.

Coach007
01-04-2016, 03:54 PM
The hires we make will be this week. We will hire a DC before hiring a saftey coach

Op4isabitch
01-04-2016, 03:54 PM
Even now the sources are letting it leak out.

Let what leak out?

Dawgtini
01-04-2016, 04:23 PM
Let what leak out?

Obviously, he has plugged the leak.
/pull the plug coach and let it out!