MS/AL All-star game thread

[chef dixon]

Metcalf dominating so far, 2 catches, 108 yards and a TD

Nigel Knott is gonna need to hit a weight room before he steps on a D1 field, he's super skinny

Simmons so far on this first drive struggling to make any penetration or keep up with the type of offense Alabama is running

14-7 AL, they got a pic 6 off Keon Howard on MS' first drive, 5 stars everywhere on that AL defense it seems

[chef dixon]

AJ brown with a phenomenal touchdown grab

[dawgoneyall]

Freeze just checked the amount of money in the cash register

[Percho]

Freeze just checked the amount of money in the cash register

I LOL'ed

[Thrill1]

Nigel Knott very impressive so far as well. Pretty physical for a little guy ala Redmond.

[ShotgunDawg]

Knott has great closing speed

Moon looks like KJ Wright Looooonnnnngggggg

[Percho]

I don't like that rule. If the nose of the football on goal line is a TD then it should not be a touch back if the nose of ball never gets to the line.

[Percho]

Porter looked good earlier.

[CadaverDawg]

Where do we stand on Knott? Any chance he stays in State? Dude is legit.

Also, wtf is Zaire Jones going to Vandy for? He's pretty damn good. Why did we part ways?

[ShotgunDawg]

Nero Nelson is quicker than a cat. Could be a Jaylon Walton type

I really like our skill position recruiting. Problem is, unless we start winning some recruiting battles for interior linemen, we will be built like a Big 12 team

[ShotgunDawg]

Where do we stand on Knott? Any chance he stays in State? Dude is legit.

From what I gather, Knott prefers to go to Alabama but Alabama is keeping him warm. If he doesn't got to Alabama, we may be the school

[CadaverDawg]

Nero Nelson is quicker than a cat. Could be a Jaylon Walton type

I really like our skill position recruiting. Problem is, unless we start winning some recruiting battles for interior linemen, we will be built like a Big 12 team

Sure you weren't thinking "Wilson" was "Nelson"? I know I did. Not sure who the Wilson kid playing RB is...small but quick.

[Thrill1]

Goodness, Manny's got to get Jeremiah Moon away from Collins. Dude's a stud.

[CadaverDawg]

Goodness, Manny's got to get Jeremiah Moon away from Collins. Dude's a stud.

Yep he is BMac & KJ 2.0....long and can move

[ShotgunDawg]

Simmons is going to have to learn some technique. He just bull rushes every time & the linemen aren't having much trouble with him

[ShotgunDawg]

AJ Brown looks like Dez Bryant to me. Dude is a physical stud

[ShotgunDawg]

Brown is a 5 star if he lives in any other southern state than MS

[Thrill1]

I'm also seeing why we dropped Quency Lenton.

[msstate7]

We have to do whatever it takes to get aj brown. We cannot lose this kid

[ShotgunDawg]

We have to do whatever it takes to get aj brown. We cannot lose this kid

Agree. #differencemaker

Must get Simmons as well.

[CadaverDawg]

We have to do whatever it takes to get aj brown. We cannot lose this kid

Yep

[CadaverDawg]

I'm also seeing why we dropped Quency Lenton.

Is Lenton highly rated still? He doesn't look too good...but then again, Leo didn't look great either last year if I remember correctly

[HaggardDawg]

Dez is a good comparison but the dude is a clone of Treadwell. They run the same, built the same, and catch the ball the same. We absolutely need to close on him. I'll be so pissed if he ends up in Oxford. Knott reminds be of Taveze Calhoun.

[defiantdog]

Simmons will play DT at the next level

[msstate7]

Dez is a good comparison but the dude is a clone of Treadwell. They run the same, built the same, and catch the ball the same. We absolutely need to close on him. I'll be so pissed if he ends up in Oxford. Knott reminds be of Taveze Calhoun.

None of my om friends that keep up with recruiting think aj will be at om. They all are saying bama

[defiantdog]

Dez is a good comparison but the dude is a clone of Treadwell. They run the same, built the same, and catch the ball the same. We absolutely need to close on him. I'll be so pissed if he ends up in Oxford. Knott reminds be of Taveze Calhoun.

I agree with the Treadwell to Brown comparison. He would be the biggest get in this class, since he's the most next level ready.

[drummerdawg]

Is the PA announcer the guy from om? The "First Down, oooooole miss" guy. Sounds like him.

[HaggardDawg]

I wonder where AJ stands on Bamas WR board. Didn't they say the Simmons kid for Alabama is committed?

[Thrill1]

Is the PA announcer the guy from om? The "First Down, oooooole miss" guy. Sounds like him.

Yes, Glenn Waddle.

[ShotgunDawg]

None of my om friends that keep up with recruiting think aj will be at om. They all are saying bama

Who cares what they think..... seriously?

AJ will be a bulldog

[ShotgunDawg]

Reakwon Davis looks like Tunsil

[Thrill1]

Is Lenton highly rated still? He doesn't look too good...but then again, Leo didn't look great either last year if I remember correctly

247 has him as a 3-star. Committed to UF but trending towards UM.

[defiantdog]

I wonder where AJ stands on Bamas WR board. Didn't they say the Simmons kid for Alabama is committed?

Bama has a slew of WR prospects out of Florida they are going after including Calvin Ridley's brother.

[ShotgunDawg]

AJ is a freak

[msstate7]

Who cares what they think..... seriously?

AJ will be a bulldog

I was quoting someone who said it would suck to lose aj to om. I was just pointing out om people don't even think they're getting aj

[ShotgunDawg]

Someone needs to fire every MS coach. How stupid to go under center in that situation when you've gone shotgun the entire game.

ridiculous how poor our coaching is

[msstate7]

Bama has a slew of WR prospects out of Florida they are going after including Calvin Ridley's brother.

Gotta figure cavin will end up there. They have 2 wr's committed right now. They don't lose but 2 this year in mullaney and black. Gotta wonder how much of a priority aj is to bama

[Big4Dawg]

How does MS's OL look?

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

Moon would be a huge get.

Anybody know what # Errol Thompson is? Haven't seen him.

Has Lashley played tackle any? I've only seen him at guard.

#75 Dareun Parker gotten any PT?

[ShotgunDawg]

Anybody know what # Errol Thompson is? Haven't seen him.


Didn't make the Alabama team. Have no idea why

[CadaverDawg]

To me, these are the standouts that I'm familiar with through the 1st Half...

AJ
DK
Knott
Z Jones
Drelan Porter
Moon
Ben Davis (What a player...is he a Bama lean?)

Benito, Raekwon, & Simmons have been somewhat contained, which I didn't see happening. Porter's speed off the edge has made him more effective than the big 3 on the DL so far imo.

I like that we are getting a speedier guy off the edge...I think we have been beefing our DE's up too much, or at least we need to recruit some Haynes-types for passing situations...because our DE's are too slow in getting to the QB imo...even when they beat their man. Just too slow. We basically play 4 DT's and then wonder why we don't get pressure off the edges or how we get beat to the corners a lot...it's because we have a DL that is too big and slow. They're strong though...just need a few smaller, quicker guys to bring in to rush the edge on obvious passing downs.

[msstate7]

To me, these are the standouts that I'm familiar with through the 1st Half...

AJ
DK
Knott
Z Jones
Drelan Porter
Moon
Ben Davis (What a player...is he a Bama lean?)

Benito, Raekwon, & Simmons have been somewhat contained, which I didn't see happening. Porter's speed off the edge has made him more effective than the big 3 on the DL so far imo.

I like that we are getting a speedier guy off the edge...I think we have been beefing our DE's up too much, or at least we need to recruit some Haynes-types for passing situations...because our DE's are too slow in getting to the QB imo...even when they beat their man. Just too slow. We basically play 4 DT's and then wonder why we don't get pressure off the edges or how we get beat to the corners a lot...it's because we have a DL that is too big and slow. They're strong though...just need a few smaller, quicker guys to bring in to rush the edge on obvious passing downs.

Maybe we need to go after a few of those Alabama olinemen

[chef dixon]

AJ Brown is the guy to get. We need him very badly. He is the kind of guy you can throw to 15 times a game.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

Didn't make the Alabama team. Have no idea why

That's odd, he's listed on all the rosters I've seen.

[CadaverDawg]

Big hit by Simmons!

[CadaverDawg]

Maybe we need to go after a few of those Alabama olinemen

Yep

[ShotgunDawg]

AJ Brown is the guy to get. We need him very badly. He is the kind of guy you can throw to 15 times a game.

Somewhat agree, but SEC football games, at the highest level, are won or loss in the trenches.

We were beat on both LOS in the Alabama & Ole Miss games. I want both Brown & Simmons equally

[chef dixon]

Somewhat agree, but SEC football games, at the highest level, are won or loss in the trenches.

We were beat on both LOS in the Alabama & Ole Miss games. I want both Brown & Simmons equally

True, but OM receivers have made up for a lot of their deficiencies the last couple years.

[CadaverDawg]

Little Pokedawg is just like his bro...always in on the tackle

[ShotgunDawg]

True, but OM receivers have made up for a lot of their deficiencies the last couple years.

So have ours

[ShotgunDawg]

I want Knott as well

[CadaverDawg]

Why did we lose Zaire? He's good. Vandy? Really?

[chef dixon]

So have ours

Yes except our playmakers are on the way out and they already have more studs in the pipeline. We don't at this moment.

[CadaverDawg]

AJ Brown is the guy to get. We need him very badly. He is the kind of guy you can throw to 15 times a game.

Yep

[ShotgunDawg]

Yes except our playmakers are on the way out and they already have more studs in the pipeline. We don't at this moment.

Not true

[ShotgunDawg]

Why did we lose Zaire? He's good. Vandy? Really?

Odd situation. Word is that we kind of backed off after he decommitted

[defiantdog]

Why did we lose Zaire? He's good. Vandy? Really?

He wants to play his freshmen year

[chef dixon]

Not true

Excellent explanation

[Ifyouonlyknew]

We didn't send Zaire an official offer. It was our decision to move on.

[CadaverDawg]

Not true

Yes it is.

[ShotgunDawg]

Excellent explanation

Gray, Myles, Mixon, Dear, Thomas, Jesse Jackson, Justin Johnson

Look, we definitely need AJ Brown. Not at all disagreeing with that, but we have young play makers.

[CadaverDawg]

We didn't send Zaire an official offer. It was our decision to move on.

Why? Did our staff not think he was good? Or was it an attitude thing? Or what?

[defiantdog]

PJ Hall is helping his stock this game

[ShotgunDawg]

Moon looks like a stud. Need to land him

[CadaverDawg]

Gray, Myles, Mixon, Dear, Thomas, Jesse Jackson, Justin Johnson

Look, we definitely need AJ Brown. Not at all disagreeing with that, but we have young play makers.

None of those guys are anywhere close to AJ's level of talent. Not front end anyway. You're just arguing to argue. AJ is a must. Regardless of the trenches

[CadaverDawg]

PJ Hall is helping his stock this game

Where's he committed?

[ShotgunDawg]

None of those guys are anywhere close to AJ's level of talent. Not front end anyway. You're just arguing to argue. AJ is a must. Regardless of the trenches

I never said they were anywhere close to AJ. Just saying we have young play makers. That's all

[chef dixon]

None of those guys are anywhere close to AJ's level of talent. Not front end anyway. You're just arguing to argue. AJ is a must. Regardless of the trenches

Exactly. Jesse Jackson looked great on a couple targets this season, maybe next year he will get a catch. Point is, these guys good step up but Metcalfe, Lodge, Jefferson and that stud they are trying to pull from IMG academy are going to be lethal in that offense. Seeing AJ Brown join them would be donkey punch to the nuts.

[ShotgunDawg]

Where's he committed?

Just looked. He's rated an 85 & Louisville appears to be the leader.

It has MSU as 2nd, but I've never heard of this guy.

Ever since I saw Epps look like Antonio Gates a few years ago & do nothing, I take much of what I see in this game like a grain of salt.

[defiantdog]

Where's he committed?

All signs point to him committing to Louisville

[ShotgunDawg]

Exactly. Jesse Jackson looked great on a couple targets this season, maybe next year he will get a catch. Point is, these guys good step up but Metcalfe, Lodge, Jefferson and that stud they are trying to pull from IMG academy are going to be lethal in that offense. Seeing AJ Brown join them would be donkey punch to the nuts.

I agree. No one said it wouldn't be. Just saying that we have young play makers. That's all

[msstate7]

None of those guys are anywhere close to AJ's level of talent. Not front end anyway. You're just arguing to argue. AJ is a must. Regardless of the trenches

Dear is pretty damn talented.

[defiantdog]

Just looked. He's rated an 85 & Louisville appears to be the leader.

It has MSU as 2nd, but I've never heard of this guy.

Ever since I saw Epps look like Antonio Gates a few years ago & do nothing, I take much of what I see in this game like a grain of salt.

Didn't Epps get suspended this season?

[CadaverDawg]

Dear is pretty damn talented.

Yea just a totally different type of player

[CadaverDawg]

Didn't Epps get suspended this season?

I thought he left the team or got kicked off

[ShotgunDawg]

WOW. I hate the instincts of MS high school football players.

Instincts are lacking

[defiantdog]

Simmons is good, but Marlon Davidson is on another level on Alabama's team

[CadaverDawg]

Is Russ Robinson blind? He only gets the player that made the play right about 5% of the time. It's as if he's watching a different game

[CadaverDawg]

If MS would quit turning it over, we'd be up by 20+. Leave Howard in at QB and throw the damn ball

[Bothrops]

The best pass rusher in the state is Marquiss Spencer.

[confucius say]

Score?

[defiantdog]

Wilson and Davis are the real deal at LB for Alabama's team as well. They are all over the field.

[CadaverDawg]

Score?

14-14 MS inside the 20

[CadaverDawg]

Time for a turnover

[chef dixon]

Nelson is our Holloway in waiting.

[CadaverDawg]

QUIT running it wide. Damn, I want to punch this OC in the face. Throw the damn ball! You have AJ, DK, Cooley etc. THROW IT

[Bothrops]

Beautiful

[CadaverDawg]

Nelson is our Holloway in waiting.

Yea, I don't know whether to cringe or be glad we're getting a hustler

[CadaverDawg]

AJ is amazing.

[chef dixon]

Maybe that's why PJ Hall is going to louisville

[defiantdog]

Maybe that's why PJ Hall is going to louisville

Yeah..... he started running to the end zone before he caught it. Right through the hands

[CadaverDawg]

Maybe that's why PJ Hall is going to louisville

He had it covered great. Definitely why he plays DB instead of WR though

[ShotgunDawg]

If AJ Brown is only a 4 star player, then I'd love to see the 5 star WR this year

[chef dixon]

Difference in this game is AJ and Metcalf. Alabama has no answer or anything comparable on offense.

MS defense has looked good as well but Alabama doesn't have a go to playmaker.

[defiantdog]

If AJ Brown is only a 4 star player, then I'd love to see the 5 star WR this year

AJ will be a 5 star by signing day

[CadaverDawg]

And of course every media member in MS is on Twitter saying shit like "If DK can convince AJ to join him in Oxford...WOW!" And shit like that. **** that, AJ should try to tell DK to come to Starkville with him. AJ is better anyway.

[ShotgunDawg]

Difference in this game is AJ and Metcalf. Alabama has no answer or anything comparable on offense.

MS defense has looked good as well but Alabama doesn't have a go to playmaker.

Metcalf can't hold AJ's jock. Metcalf doesn't like contact

[HancockCountyDog]

I like the AL QB from Spanish fort, we should give him a look since we struck out on QBs this year. He fits our offense well.

[CadaverDawg]

Nick Fitzgerald just tweeted....

@Brown1arthur you need to bring your talents to State and let's do something special #HailState

[chef dixon]

Metcalf can't hold AJ's jock. Metcalf doesn't like contact

I agree Brown is better, but come on dude, Metcalf broke a couple tackles and looked like a beast on his TD catch.

[defiantdog]

It's going to be a long December and January with some of you lol

[ShotgunDawg]

And of course every media member in MS is on Twitter saying shit like "If DK can convince AJ to join him in Oxford...WOW!" And shit like that. **** that, AJ should try to tell DK to come to Starkville with him. AJ is better anyway.

Who said that?

[ShotgunDawg]

Are Ole Miss player's signing bonuses tied to future recruiting?

Cody Prewitt ‏@cody_prewitt 8m8 minutes ago
It's my pleasure introduce to you the man, the legend, Mr. AJ Brown. So happy to have gone to…

[CadaverDawg]

Who said that?

Cronin and others

[defiantdog]

Broussard is getting abused by Metcalf and Brown this game

[ShotgunDawg]

I agree Brown is better, but come on dude, Metcalf broke a couple tackles and looked like a beast on his TD catch.

I didn't see Metcalf's first catch.

Just saw that one though. They are both really good.

You seem to take things out of context though & say things that I didn't say. I never said Metcalf wasn't good. Just said that Brown in much better. Yet that's not how you presented it.

Step it up

[chef dixon]

Are Ole Miss player's signing bonuses tied to future recruiting?

Cody Prewitt ‏@cody_prewitt 8m8 minutes ago
It's my pleasure introduce to you the man, the legend, Mr. AJ Brown. So happy to have gone to…

That's a white kid that has a Hail State bio

[msstate7]

Cronin and others

In their defense, metcalf is the only committed one and it's to om. It'd be weird seeing aj needs to talk metcalf into coming to state when aj isn't even committed to state himself

[chef dixon]

I didn't see Metcalf's first catch.

Just saw that one though. They are both really good.

You seem to take things out of context though & say things that I didn't say. I never said Metcalf wasn't good. Just said that Brown in much better. Yet that's not how you presented it.

Step it up

You make it pretty clear that you can't see things objectively, but whatever makes you feel better.

[sandwolf]

There has been a couple of people on here making it sound like Brown and Metcalf didn't much like each other, saying they wouldn't go to the same school.....it looks like that may have changed because Brown just ran all the way across the field to congratulate Metcalf after that TD catch.

[ShotgunDawg]

You make it pretty clear that you can't see things objectively, but whatever makes you feel better.

Haha. Whatever. Are you 12?

What exactly isn't objective about saying that Metcalf isn't close to as good as Brown?

I believe that. He's smoother, stronger, & has better body control. He's a better player. Metcalf is good as well, but Brown is much better & more complete

[ShotgunDawg]

There has been a couple of people on here making it sound like Brown and Metcalf didn't much like each other, saying they wouldn't go to the same school.....it looks like that may have changed because Brown just ran all the way across the field to congratulate Metcalf after that TD catch.

Reading way too much into things. Either way, the guys are on the same team. Of course they cheer for each other

[ShotgunDawg]

I've never seen Benito Jones play before today but he looks like Vince Wilfork.

Appears to me to be much more cut out to be a NG in a 3-4, not sure though

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

I was very impressed by Benito's first step. Problem was that he only used it every 3rd or 4th play. If he ever learns to do that every play he's going to be hard to handle in the A gap.

[GreenheadDawg]

I ****ing hate recruiting season. Worst time of the year, even worse than tax season

[ShotgunDawg]

I ****ing hate recruiting season. Worst time of the year, even worse than tax season

Agree. It's terrible.

I'm tempted to just turn everything off & just see who we sign in February.

As a fan, you just feel completely helpless, but not totally, because you know some fans are "heppin", which makes you wonder if your team is getting enough helping.

I hate it. I wonder if schools that sign top 10 classes and consistently flip kids feel the same or if they love recruiting?

[NCDawg]

I ****ing hate recruiting season. Worst time of the year, even worse than tax season

I do too, especially when Ole Miss is ranked 10th and we are ranked 55th.

[GreenheadDawg]

Agree. It's terrible.

I'm tempted to just turn everything off & just see who we sign in February.

As a fan, you just feel completely helpless, but not totally, because you know some fans are "heppin", which makes you wonder if your team is getting enough helping.

I hate it. I wonder if schools that sign top 10 classes and consistently flip kids feel the same or if they love recruiting?

I'm sure they love it. Schools like Bama is bored with it. Yawnnn, another 5 star.

[GreenheadDawg]

I do too, especially when Ole Miss is ranked 10th and we are ranked 55th.

Yeah that stings a bit. But with the current staff I don't think that will change. I mean for ****'s sake, we have 2 studs in our backyard and who knows if we sign them. I know people say let them enjoy the process but this seems to happen with us more frequently.

[Todd4State]

There has been a couple of people on here making it sound like Brown and Metcalf didn't much like each other, saying they wouldn't go to the same school.....it looks like that may have changed because Brown just ran all the way across the field to congratulate Metcalf after that TD catch.

I guarantee you that Jerry Rice congratulated Michael Irvin in the Pro Bowl and vice versa. Even though they were on rival teams.

[Todd4State]

I ****ing hate recruiting season. Worst time of the year, even worse than tax season

I like tax season. I always get a refund.

[Todd4State]

Yeah that stings a bit. But with the current staff I don't think that will change. I mean for ****'s sake, we have 2 studs in our backyard and who knows if we sign them. I know people say let them enjoy the process but this seems to happen with us more frequently.

We're going to finish really strong. Just relax and let things play out.

[GreenheadDawg]

We're going to finish really strong. Just relax and let things play out.

We shall see.

[CadaverDawg]

In their defense, metcalf is the only committed one and it's to om. It'd be weird seeing aj needs to talk metcalf into coming to state when aj isn't even committed to state himself

You're missing the point. They shouldn't be recruiting for either school. Just report the ****ing news, and leave your opinion out of it if you work as a journalist/reporter.

[msstate7]

You're missing the point. They shouldn't be recruiting for either school. Just report the ****ing news, and leave your opinion out of it if you work as a journalist/reporter.

Good point

[Todd4State]

You're missing the point. They shouldn't be recruiting for either school. Just report the ****ing news, and leave your opinion out of it if you work as a journalist/reporter.

That would require professionalism and objectivity.

[tcdog70]

Mm
To me, these are the standouts that I'm familiar with through the 1st Half...

AJ
DK
Knott
Z Jones
Drelan Porter
Moon
Ben Davis (What a player...is he a Bama lean?)

Benito, Raekwon, & Simmons have been somewhat contained, which I didn't see happening. Porter's speed off the edge has made him more effective than the big 3 on the DL so far imo.

I like that we are getting a speedier guy off the edge...I think we have been beefing our DE's up too much, or at least we need to recruit some Haynes-types for passing situations...because our DE's are too slow in getting to the QB imo...even when they beat their man. Just too slow. We basically play 4 DT's and then wonder why we don't get pressure off the edges or how we get beat to the corners a lot...it's because we have a DL that is too big and slow. They're strong though...just need a few smaller, quicker guys to bring in to rush the edge on obvious passing downs.

I thought the Sip's DL dominated Bama. Damn , Simmons was a beast. Benito was also tough. Davis is huge and a space eater. I also thought the LB from Bassfield was very good