Game Thread: Mens BB v. Miami

[chef dixon]

Opener in Puerto Rico, ESPN2 here at 4PM CST.

Time to rebound after a tough loss to juggernaut Southern.

[Dawgbite]

For a minute there I thought Johkavic was wearing a body suit.

[chef dixon]

For a minute there I thought Johkavic was wearing a body suit.

That was going to be unfortunate if that match didn't end. Good job Joker.

[Dawgbite]

Looks like a Tad Pad crowd!

[BeardoMSU]

Gavin doesn't have 2+ fouls yet...so that's an improvement.

[Dawg61]

Daniels been strokin it this year 70% on 3s

[Dawgbite]

We have 2 offensive rebounds.

[CadaverDawg]

Daniels guarding a Big isn't going to work out for us.

[chef dixon]

Honestly looks like 2 evenly matched teams so far. They are working the interior a little better though.

[msstate7]

Daniels guarding a Big isn't going to work out for us.

A big guarding Daniels on the perimeter probably won't work either

[Dawg61]

New foul rules are arguably the biggest fail in college basketball ever.

[Dawg61]

Sword the only player not showing improved shooting thus far. He is struggggggling.

[Dawg61]

Every foul is a ****ing joke. It's turned into soccer. Can't use your arms on defense EVER.

[chef dixon]

This court is dangerous.

[BeardoMSU]

These foul calls are legitimate***

[CarolinaDawgs]

GIVE THE BALL TO THE WARE-HOUSE

[Dawgbite]

Could be to our advantage, Miami only plays 8.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Sword the only player not showing improved shooting thus far. He is struggggggling.

might've shot the ball best against EWU

[Dawg61]

Miami player grazes Zuppardo with his foot = foul on Zuppardo. There's more contact in golf now than college basketball.

[Dawgbite]

Our off ball movement is terrible.

[CadaverDawg]

We about to get blown out

[ChevChelios]

**** these BS fouls

[Dawgbite]

Now that's how you foul!

[ChevChelios]

Talk about late on a call..

[DudyDawg]

We are overwhelmingly unimproved so far

[Dawg61]

Finally Spoon says **** it and really gets his money worth on a foul. If they are going to call everything than absolutely destroy the player every time.

[CadaverDawg]

Newman is pressing. He's got to quit thinking about being a highly touted player, and just play. Looks nervous as shit & is trying to force things

[Big4Dawg]

What is wrong with Malik's hand? Looks taped up. Seems to have caused some problems with him dribbling.

[rbdog82]

We might have guys foul out in the first half. These new foul rules are awful. That said, we can't hit the broad side of a barn from outside 12ft.

[mstatefan91]

Gonna be a long day in offense

[Big4Dawg]

Newman is pressing. He's got to quit thinking about being a highly touted player, and just play. Looks nervous as shit & is trying to force things

Yeah - Looks really nervous.

[ChevChelios]

Newman looks like a damn 2*

[Dawgbite]

FYI, How It's Made is about folding bicycles! Channel 284.

[Dawg61]

We are overwhelmingly unimproved so far

We are mirroring the play of what's supposed to be our two best players Sword & Newman.

[Irondawg]

This is not two evenly matched teams - maybe athletically - but they are a way better basketball team than us. They run their offense better and the play much, much better defense than we do. I'll be pleased if we keep it within 12 honestly based on what I see early.

You can tell early on that Malik doesn't have a lot of experience with guys guarding him so well that can come close to him athletically. That's going to be his biggest adjustment.

[CadaverDawg]

Our defense sucks

[ChevChelios]

WE get fouled twice on 1 possession and end up with a BS travel

[War Machine Dawg]

We are not good right now. Hopefully we improve as the season goes on, but this is an UGLY game

[Coach007]

Oh GOD! this is ugly

[JohnnyQuid]

the rout is on

[CadaverDawg]

Good grief. Guard somebody. This is pathetic

[Bothrops]

We are horrible!

[Thick]

We are horrible!!!

[Dawg61]

This is not two evenly matched teams - maybe athletically - but they are a way better basketball team than us. They run their offense better and the play much, much better defense than we do. I'll be pleased if we keep it within 12 honestly based on what I see early.

You can tell early on that Malik doesn't have a lot of experience with guys guarding him so well that can come close to him athletically. That's going to be his biggest adjustment.

Miami returns 4 senior starters under the same coach their entire career.

[BeardoMSU]

It's official: we cannot guard the 3 point shot.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Probably wouldn't have bet on this game if i knew Miami wasn't gonna miss holy shit.

[starkvegasdawg]

Will they at least have the common courtesy of giving us a reach around after this raping?

[TStationDawg]

We are terrible. Honest question, do we have a spot for Malik when he comes back next year? Or do we have to withdraw current offer, or cut someone else. He aint NBA ready, much to my dismay.

[Dawg61]

Call the game the same for both teams please!!

[DanDority]

FYI, How It's Made is about folding bicycles! Channel 284.


Thank you!

[Dawgface]

What a joke. This game may end up 100 - 40.

[CarolinaDawgs]

LET IT FLY MALIK F**K THE H8ERS

[Bothrops]

We're in a tailspin. Have we even been to the line once yet??

[TStationDawg]

Hope Howland enjoyed the crowd game #1

[maroonmania]

My word, just turned it on. 40 POINTS GIVEN UP IN LESS THAN 12 MINUTES???? That is freakin' ridiculous.

[RTO Dawg]

WOW!!

[DudyDawg]

Hope we can keep these commits. Gonna be a damn long year for this team if the only thing we did well last year we are worse at (D) this year. Man zuppardo is lost. I'd rather play a chair.

[ChevChelios]

HOLY **** CALL A FOUL

[CarolinaDawgs]

Im considering taking the over in every single CBB game this year because I don't know if Vegas has adjusted to teams being in the bonus with 12 minutes left in a half.

[DudyDawg]

This defense is all on Howland. He can't get effort out of them on that end of the floor three games in a row?

[CadaverDawg]

Howland better get these guys playing D. Hell, shitty Ray's defenses were 100 times better than 2015 so far. Offense's weren't...but still.

[civildawg]

We look like a poorly coached team and I never thought I would say that with howland

[Hattdawg]

Our guys have no confidence. Our body language is awful. Slow, timing off, second guessing everything. Too tight.

[CadaverDawg]

We look like a poorly coached team and I never thought I would say that with howland

I agree.

[Irondawg]

Miami is hitting everything so that isn't helping but there aren't exactly struggling to get an open shot either. I know it's 4 seniors but they appear very well coached.

[msstate7]

Can we just forfeit the year? Let weatherspoon and Malik play 1 on 1 in hump till we get some real players next season

[Bothrops]

Everyone is surprised. I'm not knocking Howland yet, but we are worse than last year, for some reason.

[CadaverDawg]

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[Dawg61]

Malik won't get drafted in the 2nd round right now

[BeardoMSU]

Most of these guys just aren't very good. It's athleticism, smarts, instincts, etc., and we don't have it. Most of these guys should be starting in the Sun Belt conference, not the SEC. Truth hurts, but it is what it is. Howland will bring in more talent.

[chef dixon]

This reminds me of when we went to Maui a few years back. Its basically the same players.

[BeardoMSU]

we are worse than last year, for some reason.

I don't think you can say that....

[Dawg61]

We are getting royally ****ed by the refs

[DudyDawg]

Now would be a good time to blow a gasket on the refs and get a t. Maybe that'll help us get a foul call or wake up the team.

[starkvegasdawg]

12 fouls to 6

[Dawg61]

We've given up 48 points with 5 minutes left. Refs have handed Miami 25 of them for nothing.

[ChevChelios]

This shit is unwatchable because of the refs.

[Coach007]

turned off! Done with this game!

[ChevChelios]

When a team is catching shit fouls from refs it will for sure mess with how you play damn defense.

[JohnnyQuid]

wow ij. way to not give a ****.

[Homedawg]

We've given up 48 points with 5 minutes left. Refs have handed Miami 25 of them for nothing.

We are getting shit kicked and you are blaming the refs???

[chef dixon]

They are shooting 73%

[Dawg61]

When a team is catching shit fouls from refs it will for sure mess with how you play damn defense.

It's really absurd to let the team MAKING EVERYTHING get every single ****ing call too. Since when did Miami get Kentucky treatment?

[mstatefan91]

Guys.... we suck

[Brahmabull]

The refs have nothing to do with us giving them wide open shots!!

[CadaverDawg]

Our defense is putrid, and our offense is nothing but long jumpers. Not a recipe for success. Oh, and we can't rebound.

Other than that we look pretty solid

[War Machine Dawg]

Fellas, it ain't the refs. We just flat suck. Don't have the bigs to guard inside and we're leaving them wide ass open on the perimeter. Yeah, the fouls hurt, but you aren't stopping anyone with how we're playing.

[Dawg61]

We are getting shit kicked and you are blaming the refs???

Hell ****ing yes I am. Refs aren't calling this game the same for both teams. We have 2 free throws. They have about twenty.

[Hattdawg]

Guys.... we suck

+1

[Bothrops]

Can't wait till we get rid of the athletes and get some basketball players in the house.

[HoopsDawg]

please bench Ready. Thank you.

[CarolinaDawgs]

73% from the field from Miami---- we are 37% damn these refs. If we play D we foul can't defend properly because of these bogus ass rules

[DudyDawg]

Zuppardo moves around like a small child separated from his parents on Times Square. Deer in headlights

[maroonmania]

I'm not sure we could be any worse if we tried.

[DudyDawg]

please bench Ready. Thank you.

And Daniels. And sword. And Thomas. And zuppardo.

[Dawg61]

Wow Fred just got abused

[JohnnyQuid]

we give up more blow by layups than I've ever seen

[CadaverDawg]

Our offense is just passing it around the perimeter. Awful.

We look slow on both ends

[HoopsDawg]

Zuppardo moves around like a small child separated from his parents on Times Square. Deer in headlights

Z and Ready are so bad on Defense. We need to be playing: Malik, Sword, Thomas, Daniels, and Ware 35 minutes per game.

[coastratdog]

Newman's offensive foul on an earlier drive
was complete Bulls:/t the Miami defender rode him to the basket and was never set completely. That is poor officiating.

[coastratdog]

Gawd another completely stupid careless turnover.

[Saltydog]

"We are 20+ win Tourney team".............

[DudyDawg]

Wow Fred just got abused
No, he didn't give a shit.

[Dawg61]

Z and Ready are so bad on Defense. We need to be playing: Malik, Sword, Thomas, Daniels, and Ware 35 minutes per game.

Too bad all our starters are in foul trouble after five minutes

[BeardoMSU]

please bench Ready. Thank you.

Not an SEC basketball player. Thanks RR.

[BeardoMSU]

Zuppardo moves around like a small child separated from his parents on Times Square. Deer in headlights

Not an SEC player. Thanks RR.

[Bothrops]

We only have a few real D1 players on our team, if you want to be honest.

[JohnnyQuid]

Lol @ ready. ******* he's a terrible defender

[CadaverDawg]

Losing all the hustle plays too...that is disappointing, Bc our guys hustled even when Ray coached them.

[BeardoMSU]

We only have a few real D1 players on our team, if you want to be honest.

Exactly.

[Dawg61]

Miami has 59 points in the first half. That's more points scored than 1/3rd of our opponents scored in entire games last year.

[BeardoMSU]

Lol @ ready. ******* he's a terrible defender

I agree, he is, but that was a shit whistle blow.

[Coursesuper]

We are a really bad basketball team. The Ray hangover will take a year to overcome.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Only way we score is if we get the ball out and go. Draw fouls.. Our offense is so plain and boring we make defenses look great.

[chef dixon]

Ready should have went up to Missouri with Ray

[HoopsDawg]

Only way we score is if we get the ball out and go. Draw fouls.. Our offense is so plain and boring we make defenses look great.

Yeah, we went really small at the end with Fred at the 4 and we actually looked better. We just need to run, run, run.

[Dawg61]

Ready should have went up to Missouri with Ray

Rather have Tookie

[Bully13]

Something is not right. This is not the same team that beat ew. I'm sorry guys but for some reason our team quit.

[JohnnyQuid]

I agree, he is, but that was a shit whistle blow.

yea, should know better than to leave his feet in that situation ... ready gonna block a jump shot!!**

[chef dixon]

We have no identity. For a team full of seniors we have no leadership. You would think by now Sword would have asserted himself as a key player but he's just blending in with the rest of our roster.

[starkvegasdawg]

Our offense is just passing it around the perimeter. Awful.

We look slow on both ends
Is Stands back?

[CarolinaDawgs]

MIAMI MSU

Shooting 20-32 (.625) 13-31 (.419)
3PT Shooting 7-13 (.538) 4-9 (.444)
Free Throws 12-17 (.706) 5-6 (.833)
Rebounds 5-18 5-14
Assists 11 4
Steals 5 1
Blocks 1 1
Turnovers 3 9
Fouls 9 14
Largest Lead 31 2

[BayouDawg]

We're gonna have to play zone more than man this year. It's harder to rebound out of a zone but we suck rebounding in man so really nothing is lost there. I'd like to see some 2-3 trap and some press to try and force teams to think quicker than they want to. We're gonna have to do some things to hide our deficiencies

[CarolinaDawgs]

MIAMI MSU

Shooting 20-32 (.625) 13-31 (.419)
3PT Shooting 7-13 (.538) 4-9 (.444)
Free Throws 12-17 (.706) 5-6 (.833)
Rebounds 5-18 5-14
Assists 11 4
Steals 5 1
Blocks 1 1
Turnovers 3 9
Fouls 9 14
Largest Lead 31 2

WELL THAT LOOKS LIKE OUR DEFENSE EVEN I CANT DO RIGHT WATCHING THIS SHIT

[Bothrops]

Something is not right. This is not the same team that beat ew. I'm sorry guys but for some reason our team quit.

Point noted

[CadaverDawg]

Howland's teams always suck in his first season at a new place....but I figured with a bunch of Seniors & Newman we could at least be a very solid team. Nope. You'd think there was a locker room rift watching this shit show.

[Dawg61]

We're gonna have to play zone more than man this year. but hey'll call a foul on us every time It's harder to rebound out of a zone but we suck rebounding in man so really nothing is lost there. I'd like to see some 2-3 trap but they'll call a foul on us every timeand some press to try but they'll call a foul on us every timeand force teams to think quicker than they want to but they'll call a foul on us every time. We're gonna have to do some things to hide our deficiencies besides getting a foul called on us every time

fify

[Dawg61]

Point noted

Houston has caused mutiny?

[BayouDawg]

Howland's teams always suck in his first season at a new place....but I figured with a bunch of Seniors & Newman we could at least be a very solid team. Nope. You'd think there was a locker room rift watching this shit show.

Yea something just seems off. The players are just out there doin their own thing. Also we have too many ball stoppers on offense. Our guards get the ball and just hold it. Gotta keep the ball moving and get the defense moving

[chef dixon]

I miss Stands

[chef dixon]

Come back time!

[BayouDawg]

fify

The fouls are ridiculous, and they will continue to be ridiculous as long we don't move our feet better on defense. With this years rules if you let people get into the lane at will you will get infinite fouls.

[Dawg61]

Next time Miami attempts an alley-oop up 30 points I want someone to knock the ****ers head off.

[BeardoMSU]

Gavin has a really pretty stroke.

[thf24]

I don't know how this officiating can stand. You drive into the paint, automatic call. You back down in the post and make a move, automatic call. What are you supposed to do to stop either of those?

[Dawg61]

Gavin has a really pretty stroke.

He's our best shooter inside 20 feet

[JohnnyQuid]

Think someone told sword to stop jacking up 3s finally

[BeardoMSU]

Oh, snap...19 point game. We're gonna win this 17er!**

[civildawg]

Ij ready couldn't play defense to save his life

[msstate7]

Maybe sword has finally started this season

[chef dixon]

I get nauseated when IJ ready has the ball.

[defiantdog]

We may be an all freshmen team next year

[msstate7]

Who do we play tomorrow?

[Dawg61]

I don't know how this officiating can stand. You drive into the paint, automatic call. You back down in the post and make a move, automatic call. What are you supposed to do to stop either of those?

Nothing. Hope the player misses I guess. These new rules are designed to increase scoring and that's all they do. Unfortunately it's made basketball ****ing AWFUL to watch. This is the result of twenty years of players refusing to learn how to shoot so the NCAA has decided to push the objective. Teams that shoot well will win now.

[Dawg61]

Who do we play tomorrow?

Loser between Utah (10) and Texas Tech. Probably Tech.

[defiantdog]

Newman looking rusty

[Dawg61]

Newman couldn't stark for the Ukraine JV team right now.

[BayouDawg]

At this point Newman is one and done... To the Siberian Basketball League.
But you can definitely see he's got tons of
Potential if he'll slow down and let the game come to him

[Red Sox Dawg]

We are terrible.

[Dawg61]

I think I'll throw a party when these seniors graduate. Worst record all-time for them.

[msstate7]

I think I'll throw a party when these seniors graduate. Worst record all-time for them.

We should encourage ready to graduate with them. Stapleton, Weatherspoon, and Malik all I want back next season

[defiantdog]

We are terrible.

Is it baseball season yet?

[maroonmania]

I miss Stands

Yep, all of those SEC West titles with no getting past the 2nd round of the NCAAs is looking better and better every passing year.

[DudyDawg]

Really questioning Howlands ability to adjust. We have two stretch fours and we have them clogging up the paint so that Miami can front and back ware. They did it the first half and he still hasn't gotten Daniels in the corner and out the damn way. That's on Howland. You've got to adjust when they front.

[DudyDawg]

1-3-1 with ware in the middle cause he can't run the baseline.

[Dawg61]

We should encourage ready to graduate with them. Stapleton, Weatherspoon, and Malik all I want back next season

I want Holman more than Newman right now and I've never seen Holman play before

[Dawg61]

How in the holy ****ing hell is that a foul on Daniels? We are going to give up 110 points. fol

[DudyDawg]

We haven't thrown a skip pass in three games.

[Dawg61]

Way to give them a new shot clock when it's at 2 seconds IJ

[msstate7]

I want Holman more than Newman right now and I've never seen Holman play before

I'm an idiot... Forgot about Holman and strugg

[Dawg61]

Newman bricks free throw

[BeardoMSU]

Newman bricks free throw

...then banks in a 3, lol. Go easy on the kid, 61. He's rusty as hell.

[Dawg61]

Forgot about Strugg

Everyone does

[mstatefan91]

I will give our boys this: they don't just lay down and quit.

Yeah we suck but they could have just let Miami pull away to a 40 to 50 point lead and they haven't. Yet..

[state66]

Were just not big enough to compete down low. Were out sized bad. Need holman back asap.

[DudyDawg]

I will give our boys this: they don't just lay down and quit.

Yeah we suck but they could have just let Miami pull away to a 40 to 50 point lead and they haven't. Yet..

Considering how many they've hung on us I wouldn't exactly praise our effort.

[Red Sox Dawg]

nm

[BeardoMSU]

Were just not big enough to compete down low. Were out sized bad. Need holman back asap.

If Ware didn't have to worry about playing defense, he could be a lottery pick...but unfortunately for him, he does.

[mstatefan91]

Considering how many they've hung on us I wouldn't exactly praise our effort.

First half effort? Not a chance

Second half has been much better but too late

[CarolinaDawgs]

Praying we cover........

[chef dixon]

Malik is getting some valuable minutes here though. He's going to need to end up being the guy that runs the show.

[Dawg61]

...then banks in a 3, lol. Go easy on the kid, 61. He's rusty as hell.

**** that. Everyone has to suck his dick for three years for this. The refs are calling EVERYTHING a foul so Newman only jacks terrible 3s all day instead of accepting the guaranteed foul calls. I am PISSED

[CarolinaDawgs]

WE ARE SOFA KING BAD AT PICK&ROLL DEFENSE....

[mstatefan91]

**** that. Everyone has to suck his dick for three years for this. The refs are calling EVERYTHING a foul so Newman only jacks terrible 3s all day instead of accepting the guaranteed foul calls. I am PISSED
You really do come across as a prick sometimes. Just so you know

[JohnnyQuid]

Praying we cover........

no chance

[tcdog70]

I get nauseated when IJ ready has the ball.

Absolutely

[TopDog58]

**** that. Everyone has to suck his dick for three years for this. The refs are calling EVERYTHING a foul so Newman only jacks terrible 3s all day instead of accepting the guaranteed foul calls. I am PISSED
Damn right. He's a McDonald's AA and all we've heard for 2 years is one and done. F that being rusty bullshit. At this point id rather have Big Train out there. At least he busted his ass for some pitiful MSU teams.

[defiantdog]

**** that. Everyone has to suck his dick for three years for this. The refs are calling EVERYTHING a foul so Newman only jacks terrible 3s all day instead of accepting the guaranteed foul calls. I am PISSED

He's definitely not playing like the monta Ellis I thought he would be..... He's gotta get more aggressive. The entire team is flat footed.

[CarolinaDawgs]

This has been one of the worst basketball games I have ever seen. Im glued to the TV because Im worthless and so is our defense.

[cheewgumm]

It's hard to even tell what we're trying to do.

[cheewgumm]

We should just play zone.

[Dawg61]

You really do come across as a prick sometimes. Just so you know

You think I'm going to take a 40 point beat down lightly you can suck it.

[defiantdog]

...then banks in a 3, lol. Go easy on the kid, 61. He's rusty as hell.

He's rusty and doesn't look the part his website advertises. Sword is out shining him

[tcdog70]

Travis is pitiful, he plays scared. Hell he is 6'8" and acts like he is 6'. No defense and for shit on thboards. And we can't win with IJ , dribbles too much , has to many turnovers and never ever defends

[defiantdog]

You think I'm going to take a 40 point beat down lightly you can suck it.
I'm with you on this one..... This team, other than Sword, doesn't want to be there.

[mstatefan91]

You think I'm going to take a 40 point beat down lightly you can suck it.

Hahaha you really do have problems man. The team isn't good. Malik has had a hard time getting going. He doesn't exactly have a supporting cast. We have no men down low to defend. But yep, blame it all on a freshman because he was your savior.

[state66]

Zupardo on both 3's goes down court and fouls. Wtf quit following up a good possesion with a foul

[CarolinaDawgs]

I think that its ****ing laughable that the Kentucky/Duke basketball game wasn't officiated like this... Thats really what pisses me off more than anything.

[DudyDawg]

I'm with you on this one..... This team, other than Sword, doesn't want to be there.

Ware has been good each game.

[TopDog58]

The Washington Generals played better defense against the Globetrotters than this pathetic effort. It wasnt shooting that extended this 2nd half lead. Miami has been given free reign od the paint. Every damn one of them should be benched

[mstatefan91]

I think that its ****ing laughable that the Kentucky/Duke basketball game wasn't officiated like this... Thats really what pisses me off more than anything.

Yeah the refs were lenient for the stars

[mstatefan91]

Well Malik, if you don't knock the rust off soon then you will get to join the all star cast next year.

[defiantdog]

Ware has been good each game.

Offensively yes..... But he's a joke defensively

[Red Sox Dawg]

That was really bad. Our lack of effort on defense and rebounding is alarming. You have to at least try.

[CarolinaDawgs]

Just took the over i the next game... I bet nothing gets called and its a brickfest hahahahaha

[Dawg61]

Hahaha you really do have problems man. The team isn't good. Malik has had a hard time getting going. He doesn't exactly have a supporting cast. We have no men down low to defend. But yep, blame it all on a freshman because he was your savior.

Who says I blame it all on a freshman? I blasted everyone on the team not just Newman but Newman's errors are mental not physical so he's going to hear it most especially since he just forced the world to suck his dick for his signature the last three years.

[mstatefan91]

Who says I blame it all on a freshman? I blasted everyone on the team not just Newman but Newman's errors are mental not physical so he's going to hear it most especially since he just forced the world to suck his dick for his signature the last three years.
It's all good man. I just like to give you a hard time

[CJDAWG85]

How Ndyoe and Thomas received scholarships still cracks me up.

[tcdog70]

No wonder Houston was pissed. He is better than Daniels or Zup

[defiantdog]

Our starters are going to be young next year

[Dawg61]

No wonder Houston was pissed. He is better than Daniels or Zup

Yup. I'd be pissed too. He's better than Thomas and Ready as well. Plays defense better than 11 other guys.

[shannondawg]

#14 is struggling with having to carry all the expectations from this board on his shoulders.

He's a freshman guard, give him time to adjust, before we start dogging him.

[Dawg61]

#14 is struggling with having to carry all the expectations from this board on his shoulders.

He's a freshman guard, give him time to adjust, before we start dogging him.

Nobody would be dogging him if we hadn't just lost by forty after losing to a SWAC team. Keep the results within the ballpark of our expectations and nobody is saying shit about Malik or this team.

[defiantdog]

#14 is struggling with having to carry all the expectations from this board on his shoulders.

He's a freshman guard, give him time to adjust, before we start dogging him.

Adjust? It's basketball...... Kids used to go from high school directly into the NBA without time to adjust. He has his own website advertising his greatness. He needs to nut up and be the top 5 recruit he was credited for..... If he wants to be a 1st round pick, he has to put this team on his back. Because no one is going to carry him.

[Goldendawg]

Guys, I got fired up about the year too, after we got Howland, Newman, and Q. I hope that they get better, but I forgot it's the same guys basically that have been losing for three years. Not sure that digging up Rupp could change some of the talent level or correct some of the same weaknesses from the past years.

[defiantdog]

Guys, I got fired up about the year too, after we got Howland, Newman, and Q. I hope that they get better, but I forgot it's the same guys basically that have been losing for three years. Not sure that digging up Rupp could change some of the talent level or correct some of the same weaknesses from the past years.

The defense has gotten worse

[CarolinaDawgs]

If you are watching this TT Utah game you have to be pissed th **** off. our game would've been miles closer had the officiating been like this. CBB is going to be ruined because some Refs will over call and some won't change. GREAT JOB NCAA you have seamlessly screwed up again.

[Coach34]

Howland better stop being stubborn- half this roster wont be back. Play some zone with this group because they cant defend M2M for 40 mins.
Malik is not a 1 and Done
Malik and Q will be an awesome backcourt next season
IJ needs to go to Delta State for his Sr year
Our effort needs to get alot better
We are vastly improved offensively
Very disappointing start

[HailState39110]

Howland better stop being stubborn- half this roster wont be back. Play some zone with this group because they cant defend M2M for 40 mins.
Malik is not a 1 and Done
Malik and Q will be an awesome backcourt next season
IJ needs to go to Delta State for his Sr year
Our effort needs to get alot better
We are vastly improved offensively
Very disappointing start

Exactly - it is very simple . Our veteran players suck . These guys who are seniors have given a lot to the program and I appreciate that , but they aren't any good. They have been on the court for 4 years so we all know these guys . They just can't win . Let's get them a degree and start over with the class we are recruiting . It will be a MAJOR upgrade in talent

[tcdog70]

Nobody would be dogging him if we hadn't just lost by forty after losing to a SWAC team. Keep the results within the ballpark of our expectations and nobody is saying shit about Malik or this team.

I remember two freshmen starting their first game and both scored in double figures and never looked back. Ray White And Gary Hooker. They didn't even have a web site

[tcdog70]

Yup. I'd be pissed too. He's better than Thomas and Ready as well. Plays defense better than 11 other guys.

Plus he can rebound.

[Coach34]

I remember two freshmen starting their first game and both scored in double figures and never looked back. Ray White And Gary Hooker. They didn't even have a web site

This aint 1975 Buddy Epson. Different game today

[msstate7]

Fred Thomas with 0 points today. Unbelievable

[Dawg61]

Fred Thomas with 0 points today. Unbelievable

Not surprised. Guy has been Jekyll and Hyde since he arrived.

[BullDog]

Howland better stop being stubborn- half this roster wont be back. Play some zone with this group because they cant defend M2M for 40 mins.
Malik is not a 1 and Done
Malik and Q will be an awesome backcourt next season
IJ needs to go to Delta State for his Sr year
Our effort needs to get alot better
We are vastly improved offensively
Very disappointing start

Poo

[defiantdog]

Fred Thomas with 0 points today. Unbelievable

I wonder how many attempts he had

[msstate7]

I wonder how many attempts he had

0-5

[defiantdog]

0-5
Probably all 3s

[tcdog70]

This aint 1975 Buddy Epson. Different game today

Right, much better BBIQ back then plus they played Defense and that team would beat the crap out of both team that played today

[HoopsDawg]

0-5

I would put Malik at PG and Sword at SG and they wouldn't come out of the game until they got 5 fouls. Then I would go ahead and play Q and go with a 3 guard lineup.

[shannondawg]

Ok Ok OK, It was pitiful, I just hope they can find some defense down the road.

[msstate7]

Ok Ok OK, It was pitiful, I just hope they can find some defense down the road.

Today would be nice

[shannondawg]

Boy Hiddy, it would wouldn't it. But I don't think you can fix that mess overnight. But it can be fixed, least I think it can be made better.

I tried to temper everyone's expectations of Malik several days ago, before he ever stepped on the court. Not trying to tell you I told you so, but , well I just did , didn't I?

[West Houston Dog]

looked more like a four and done vs a one and done. I know it is early and he has no where to go but up.

I am not sure this team has any upside however. Team full of seniors and they looked like they have never played a minute of defense ever. The same players looked much better on defense last year under the previous coach(tho seems like we could barely break 60 points on offense).

Oh well...at least our signing class gives us hope for the future. but that future is a years wait away.....

[Dawg61]

lThe same players looked much better on defense last year under the previous coach(tho seems like we could barely break 60 points on offense).

Oh well...at least our signing class gives us hope for the future. but that future is a years wait away.....

You're correct they still can't break 60 even with these new joke rules.
Dayton 53-84
Evansville 65-80
Alabama A&M 56-74 (Thanks ScottH)

Oh yea and Howland has signed 9 4* players and added a very good transfer since he showed up