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Dawgology
11-18-2015, 05:13 PM
I'm not one to follow recruiting THAT much, especially this early, but I noticed that MSU has only got 3 star recruits and has something like the 40th recruiting class. Is something going on with recruiting? That is shaping up to be the worst class Mullen has signed since he has been here....after a year with his most success. I noticed there are still a handful or 4 stars out there that list State as a probability but of those only 2 look to be solid (according to 247). Just wondering what the deal is? Again, I don't follow recruiting too much I just expected to see something COMPLETELY different than that.

msstate7
11-18-2015, 05:20 PM
Depending on what Simmons (dt) r.davis (ol/dl), lashley (ot), Kobe jones (dt), AJ brown (wr), and gooden (de) do this class could be good or really bad.

Think all the above are 4-stars

InTheIttaBenaHotSun
11-18-2015, 05:25 PM
Wondering the same thing. Have always heard that the 2nd signing class after a great year is where teams are able to improve in recruiting. Doesn't look to be the case with us so far. Signing day is still 3 months away but I would have thought we'd have some 4 stars mixed in with this class and maybe a 5 star. What's the boards thoughts on why we've not been able to capitalize on our 10 win season and being ranked #1 for 5 weeks from last year?

defiantdog
11-18-2015, 05:48 PM
Wondering the same thing. Have always heard that the 2nd signing class after a great year is where teams are able to improve in recruiting. Doesn't look to be the case with us so far. Signing day is still 3 months away but I would have thought we'd have some 4 stars mixed in with this class and maybe a 5 star. What's the boards thoughts on why we've not been able to capitalize on our 10 win season and being ranked #1 for 5 weeks from last year?

2nd signing class after a championship maybe..... not just a good season. Our 2017 recruiting class will be similar to our 2015 recruiting class. I expect our 2016 class to be top 30 but that's it. We should land Simmons, Lashley, Jones and Brown to help our rankings. I believe Gooden will be a sign and place guy.

CadaverDawg
11-18-2015, 06:14 PM
Not sure if accurate, but a birdie told me two of the guys listed in this thread have already committed, but Mullen encouraged them to go and reap the benefits of the crootin process. But they will be signing with us.

Take it for what it's worth.

maroonmania
11-18-2015, 06:19 PM
Depending on what Simmons (dt) r.davis (ol/dl), lashley (ot), Kobe jones (dt), AJ brown (wr), and gooden (de) do this class could be good or really bad.

Think all the above are 4-stars

Apparently that #1 ranking we had for half the season last year was a deathnail to recruiting.***

Ifyouonlyknew
11-18-2015, 06:48 PM
This class has a chance to be top 25

Scott Lashley
AJ Brown
Jeffery Simmons
Kobe Jones
Emmitt Gooden
Christian Wallace
Jeremiah Moon
Nigel Knott
Raekwon Davis

All are guys we have a shot at that are 4* or better.

Statefan
11-18-2015, 06:53 PM
This class has a chance to be top 25

Scott Lashley
AJ Brown
Jeffery Simmons
Kobe Jones
Emmitt Gooden
Christian Wallace
Jeremiah Moon
Nigel Knott
Raekwon Davis

All are guys we have a shot at that are 4* or better.

How many of those do you think currently lean our way? 5?

mic
11-18-2015, 06:54 PM
This class has a chance to be top 25

Scott Lashley
AJ Brown
Jeffery Simmons
Kobe Jones
Emmitt Gooden
Christian Wallace
Jeremiah Moon
Nigel Knott
Raekwon Davis

All are guys we have a shot at that are 4* or better.

We should pull 6 or 7 of these guys ..

HoopsDawg
11-18-2015, 07:02 PM
why does anyone care if we sign gooden if he's not going to qualify.

msstate7
11-18-2015, 07:06 PM
why does anyone care if we sign gooden if he's not going to qualify.

Even if he doesn't qualify, I'd like to place him at co Lin to get him later

msstate7
11-18-2015, 07:08 PM
D. Jones was a 4-star last year, why 3 this year?

defiantdog
11-18-2015, 07:13 PM
This class has a chance to be top 25

Scott Lashley - yes
AJ Brown - yes
Jeffery Simmons - yes
Kobe Jones - yes
Emmitt Gooden - yes
Christian Wallace - he'll commit to about 4 different schools before signing day, so who knows
Jeremiah Moon - Florida bound unless Bama pulls the trigger and throws him an offer
Nigel Knott - He's leaving the state..... would love to get him, but I think he's more interested in a school away from home
Raekwon Davis - I've been hearing good things about him leaning our way

All are guys we have a shot at that are 4* or better.

We have to finish strong here..... I would love to pull a Fred Ross (out of the blue type guy).

defiantdog
11-18-2015, 07:15 PM
D. Jones was a 4-star last year, why 3 this year?

Less media personnel watch prep school ball i guess

Coach007
11-18-2015, 07:40 PM
Aj Brown is a current lean towards ....hold your breath here.. Ole Miss.

Ifyouonlyknew
11-18-2015, 07:40 PM
We have to finish strong here..... I would love to pull a Fred Ross (out of the blue type guy).

I agree with just about everything you said. On Wallace if he OV in January I feel great we get him. Moon really likes Florida but his parents are rooting for MSU. He'll OV in January & if Geoff Collins snags 1 of those lower level Florida HC jobs then that flip becomes a lot easier. I still think Knott heads OOS too but the longer it goes & the more he visits campus our chances slowly creep up. I'm not expecting him but he's been more receptive of late.

Ifyouonlyknew
11-18-2015, 07:41 PM
Aj Brown is a current lean towards ....hold your breath here.. Ole Miss.

I disagree.

chef dixon
11-18-2015, 07:43 PM
AJ Brown to Ole Miss would hurt us a lot more than it would help them. I think we must have him.

GreenheadDawg
11-18-2015, 07:44 PM
Aj Brown is a current lean towards ....hold your breath here.. Ole Miss.

You are... Hold your breath here.. Wrong as usual

msstate7
11-18-2015, 07:46 PM
I disagree.

I'm with you here. My om buddies that keep up with recruiting even say AJ to state. Now they're pretty confident they'll get Simmons

CadaverDawg
11-18-2015, 07:46 PM
Aj Brown is a current lean towards ....hold your breath here.. Ole Miss.

You have....hold your breath.....no clue what you're talking about.

Coach007
11-18-2015, 07:46 PM
You are... Hold your breath here.. Wrong as usual

You can add up the wrongs then compare them to being right. I'm good with the results.

Coach007
11-18-2015, 07:47 PM
You have....hold your breath.....no clue what you're talking about.

Whatever....

Coach007
11-18-2015, 07:53 PM
We are offering alot of WRs currently too. I'm not worried in that area. Yeah, you gotta take those bigger recruits in our own back yard, but we all know this 2016 class needs some top OL!

HancockCountyDog
11-18-2015, 08:32 PM
Aj Brown is a current lean towards ....hold your breath here.. Ole Miss.

Brown
Kobe Jones
Lashley

Will all sign with MSU. Anyone that says otherwise are just trying to stir up shit.

Simmons will be a battle to the end. Anyone that says they know where he is going is full of it.

No one really knows what Knott will do. I think Davis sticks with Bama.

BankerDog
11-18-2015, 08:56 PM
IOYK, what is the story behind Stephen Sullivan the 4* WR currently committed to Texas?!

mic
11-18-2015, 09:07 PM
Aj Brown is a current lean towards ....hold your breath here.. Ole Miss.

AJ will be playing in Oxford..
3 times..
High school championship game
And his frosh and Jr years at MSU...

Ifyouonlyknew
11-18-2015, 09:18 PM
IOYK, what is the story behind Stephen Sullivan the 4* WR currently committed to Texas?!

TCU/LSU battle

Ifyouonlyknew
11-18-2015, 09:18 PM
Brown
Kobe Jones
Lashley

Will all sign with MSU. Anyone that says otherwise are just trying to stir up shit.

Simmons will be a battle to the end. Anyone that says they know where he is going is full of it.

No one really knows what Knott will do. I think Davis sticks with Bama.

I agree on Simmons but I wouldn't trade positions with anyone else. I feel good about Raekwon but he needs to stay in the books or it won't matter.

Bothrops
11-18-2015, 09:23 PM
This class has a chance to be top 25

Scott Lashley
AJ Brown
Jeffery Simmons
Kobe Jones
Emmitt Gooden
Christian Wallace
Jeremiah Moon
Nigel Knott
Raekwon Davis

All are guys we have a shot at that are 4* or better.

We could sign 5 of those guys and have a top 20 class.

msstate7
11-18-2015, 09:24 PM
I agree on Simmons but I wouldn't trade positions with anyone else. I feel good about Raekwon but he needs to stay in the books or it won't matter.
If Davis is even close to not making it, if has to favor us. Bama doesn't have to risk a casualty I would think

maroonmania
11-18-2015, 09:45 PM
If Davis is even close to not making it, if has to favor us. Bama doesn't have to risk a casualty I would think

Yep, essentially how we got TD Moton.

HancockCountyDog
11-18-2015, 09:58 PM
Yep, essentially how we got TD Moton.

I'm not sure that is the best example that we want to use.

maroonmania
11-18-2015, 11:03 PM
I'm not sure that is the best example that we want to use.

Well, if we had lucked up and he had gotten eligible without needing JUCO we would all be happy.

Todd4State
11-18-2015, 11:36 PM
Has anyone seen the running back at Hinds CC that is committed to Mizzou? If he's worth a darn, I'd try to flip him.

Homedawg
11-18-2015, 11:45 PM
We don't need a juco rb.

Todd4State
11-18-2015, 11:55 PM
Yep- we have Holloway and Shumpert coming back.**

Coach007
11-18-2015, 11:58 PM
McInnis has set his visit. 6'6 210 WR.. Juco to replace Wilson should he go pro.

msstate7
11-19-2015, 12:03 AM
McInnis has set his visit. 6'6 210 WR.. Juco to replace Wilson should he go pro.
What's his first name? Looking for 247 profile

Coach007
11-19-2015, 12:06 AM
Justin McInnis

Statefan
11-19-2015, 12:06 AM
Has anyone seen the running back at Hinds CC that is committed to Mizzou? If he's worth a darn, I'd try to flip him.

I have no idea about this RB at all but we are about to have

Shumpert
Holloway
DLee
Williams
Gibson
Murphy

Plus Fitz, Ross, Miles, Dear, Mixon who will probably run or at least get touches on end arounds. This is probably a really good problem to have, and with all this depth Shumpert better not be a RB next year

msstate7
11-19-2015, 12:10 AM
Justin McInnis

Says he's '17

Coach007
11-19-2015, 12:15 AM
Not sure where you are looking. He's Juco. Will enroll in Jan.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 12:16 AM
And will have 3 years to play.

msstate7
11-19-2015, 12:17 AM
And will have 3 years to play.

Ok he must have chose to go juco then. 247 shows him as class of '17 juco.

Todd4State
11-19-2015, 01:06 AM
I have no idea about this RB at all but we are about to have

Shumpert
Holloway
DLee
Williams
Gibson
Murphy

Plus Fitz, Ross, Miles, Dear, Mixon who will probably run or at least get touches on end arounds. This is probably a really good problem to have, and with all this depth Shumpert better not be a RB next year

My guess is there is a good chance Lee doesn't come back. I like Gibson. Not sure on Murphy yet but I'll give him a chance to win me over. Both have zero experience. I like Aeris.

War Machine Dawg
11-19-2015, 01:27 AM
Has anyone seen the running back at Hinds CC that is committed to Mizzou? If he's worth a darn, I'd try to flip him.

You need to understand how JUCO crootin' works. If a school places a guy, the JUCO coaches usually protect him from other schools. The only way that changes is if the kid tells the coaches he wants to re-open his recruiting instead of going to the school he originally signed with. Trying to flip a protected kid isn't worth it, because you're going to make a whole lot of enemies in the JUCO system. And see if the guys you place get protected if you flip a protected guy.

That said, RB is the last position I'm worried about. If we fix the OL, RB takes care of itself. And we've all seen enough of Aeris and Lee to know they can be at least be effective enough to keep defenses honest. Biggest issue is an OL that has all of 2 SEC quality starters right now. The other 3 are soft pansies. It's why I've been clamoring for Jenkins & Calhoun over a month.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 01:33 AM
The OL will be much improved. Very much so. Still, the issue will be depth.

GreenheadDawg
11-19-2015, 07:27 AM
The OL will be much improved. Very much so. Still, the issue will be depth.

Care to share how you came to this conclusion. Just because I say I'm going to win a million dollars doesn't make it true.

msstate7
11-19-2015, 07:40 AM
Any chance Daryl Williams is ready next season? I would love for him to be able to man center, so we could move clayborn back to guard. I'm thinking...

Rankin/Jenkins
Calhoun
Williams or anyone else
Clayborn
Senior

HancockCountyDog
11-19-2015, 08:00 AM
The OL will be much improved. Very much so. Still, the issue will be depth.

I remember everyone saying the OL would be more talented this year.

People say shit without anything to back it up.

FISHDAWG
11-19-2015, 08:44 AM
Yep- we have Holloway and Shumpert coming back.**

I feel you ... Williams & Lee still have yet to prove themselves and apparently Murphy is being red shirted so he won't have any game experience ... I just don't get folks saying we are ok @ that position

CadaverDawg
11-19-2015, 08:59 AM
I feel you ... Williams & Lee still have yet to prove themselves and apparently Murphy is being red shirted so he won't have any game experience ... I just don't get folks saying we are ok @ that position

People are assuming that out of 6 RBs we'll surely have a capable back or two. Question is, will Mullen play the best back? Or will Holloway be the guy Bc he's a Senior, works hard, & hits the L-screen & gets his bunts down in practice (Oops, wrong coach on those last two*)

Statefan
11-19-2015, 09:15 AM
People are assuming that out of 6 RBs we'll surely have a capable back or two. Question is, will Mullen play the best back? Or will Holloway be the guy Bc he's a Senior, works hard, & hits the L-screen & gets his bunts down in practice (Oops, wrong coach on those last two*)

I definitely agree with your premise, and I believe that Williams is currently our best RB and doesnt get enough touches. HOWEVER, I think it would be hard to argue that Holloway hasnt been our most effective guy back there (as long as we aren't charging him up the middle). He has been a pleasant surprise

biscuit
11-19-2015, 09:25 AM
I follow NO recruiting other than local kids..... What is the QB situation after Dak?

sandwolf
11-19-2015, 09:44 AM
I follow NO recruiting other than local kids..... What is the QB situation after Dak?

It is good. We probably won't sign a QB this year, but our current roster looks very good.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
11-19-2015, 09:46 AM
I disagree.

something must have changed then....

TrapGame
11-19-2015, 10:05 AM
I definitely agree with your premise, and I believe that Williams is currently our best RB and doesnt get enough touches. HOWEVER, I think it would be hard to argue that Holloway hasnt been our most effective guy back there (as long as we aren't charging him up the middle). He has been a pleasant surprise

Just to dovetail into this statement, Rosebowl had a good article about Williams getting his "vision" of the field now. AW talked about in high school he didn't have to pick up blitzes or pay attention to how the D was set up. Now he does and it's been and eye opening experience that he's working on and getting better at. So, I think it's safe to say with a year of maturity and experience AW may be our every down back next season.

defiantdog
11-19-2015, 10:06 AM
something must have changed then....

AJ Brown is Leo Lewis 2.0

Statefan
11-19-2015, 10:21 AM
Just to dovetail into this statement, Rosebowl had a good article about Williams getting his "vision" of the field now. AW talked about in high school he didn't have to pick up blitzes or pay attention to how the D was set up. Now he does and it's been and eye opening experience that he's working on and getting better at. So, I think it's safe to say with a year of maturity and experience AW may be our every down back next season.

I could see that. Another point that I remember hearing on the radio is how much more open our offense can be in terms of check downs and audibles when the older players are in. I feel like Dak is pretty involved in reading a defense and changing things up at the line -- and having experienced players like Holloway or Shumpert in allow him to change the play with less of a chance of a RB missing an assignment. AW getting more experience and maturing will allow us to do more while he is on the field

Bothrops
11-19-2015, 10:44 AM
My guess is there is a good chance Lee doesn't come back. I like Gibson. Not sure on Murphy yet but I'll give him a chance to win me over. Both have zero experience. I like Aeris.

I've heard very recently that Murphy has looked the most impressive in practice. Big and fast.

GreenheadDawg
11-19-2015, 10:51 AM
I remember everyone saying the OL would be more talented this year.

People say shit without anything to back it up.

Exactly. That was my point. Everybody would love for the O-line to be better but there is no evidence to support that. This year was suppose to be our most athletic line EVAH and we see how that turned out

Johnson85
11-19-2015, 11:30 AM
HOWEVER, I think it would be hard to argue that Holloway hasnt been our most effective guy back there (as long as we aren't charging him up the middle). He has been a pleasant surprise

Holloway has been great. He's really improved and I think we've maximized his talents. But as pleasant a surprise as he's been this year, it's a huge problem that he's even in the discussion of our most effective back. It's like talking about your three point specialist being you most effective perimeter player. When that's arguably true, that means you've 17ed up with respect to getting good perimeter players.

Johnson85
11-19-2015, 11:35 AM
Exactly. That was my point. Everybody would love for the O-line to be better but there is no evidence to support that. This year was suppose to be our most athletic line EVAH and we see how that turned out

The OLine actually should be better next year. Jenkins is basically a co-starter with Warren, so really the only player we're losing is Malone. Jenkins should make a good jump this year, so we'll be better at LT. Clayborne and Senior probably aren't making a huge jump at this point, but they should be better. Desper probably isn't making a huge jump either, but he has issues that can be corrected. Calhoun should make a good jump this year, so he should replace Malone.

Wait, shit. That doesn't look much better. It looks like we'll go from horrendous to a small step above horrendous. Really need Rankin to be good (hard to believe he's capable of anything if he was redshirted this year) and need Calhoun to be better than Malone. Really shocked at how poorly our Oline has developed. I knew LT was going to be risky this year, but I'm shocked that as well as Clayborne played early on and with the experience Desper got last year, that they haven't been more effective. Malone hasn't gotten better at all and Senior has looked bad on a lot of plays too. Just a huge disappointment all around.

Big4Dawg
11-19-2015, 11:40 AM
We just offered a JUCO G

http://247sports.com/Player/Vincent-Calhoun-82181

Committed to Minnesota right now. Paul hinted could be due to Flowers grades in JUCO.

NCDawg
11-19-2015, 11:53 AM
The OLine actually should be better next year. Jenkins is basically a co-starter with Warren, so really the only player we're losing is Malone. Jenkins should make a good jump this year, so we'll be better at LT. Clayborne and Senior probably aren't making a huge jump at this point, but they should be better. Desper probably isn't making a huge jump either, but he has issues that can be corrected. Calhoun should make a good jump this year, so he should replace Malone.

Wait, shit. That doesn't look much better. It looks like we'll go from horrendous to a small step above horrendous. Really need Rankin to be good (hard to believe he's capable of anything if he was redshirted this year) and need Calhoun to be better than Malone. Really shocked at how poorly our Oline has developed. I knew LT was going to be risky this year, but I'm shocked that as well as Clayborne played early on and with the experience Desper got last year, that they haven't been more effective. Malone hasn't gotten better at all and Senior has looked bad on a lot of plays too. Just a huge disappointment all around.

I don't think our OL will be any better until we get somebody who knows how to coach and develop offensive linemen.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 12:32 PM
Care to share how you came to this conclusion. Just because I say I'm going to win a million dollars doesn't make it true.

Sure. This line was at the same place Beckwith and company were in 2013 minus an OT. They begin to get some lanes open and make it into the second level. That's not to say they are good vs Bama.

Adding:

Ranking... A guy who is now killing it at practice.
Flowers... Should we take him back, he will be an improvement on the line.
Champion... Was the Top OT in the state and went juco. My understanding is he could be ready

A few others we are starting to get in with.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 12:34 PM
I remember everyone saying the OL would be more talented this year.

People say shit without anything to back it up.

Not me! That was the biggest question mark of the season going in.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 12:42 PM
I follow NO recruiting other than local kids..... What is the QB situation after Dak?

We have the top coach in making QBs. We have a great QB coach that we hired when Dak was taking over the reigns. Since then, Dak has become a legit passer. We redshirted the #1 QB from Tn, Tano.. 6'5 230! This kid will put heat on Fitz/Staley. Fitz is looking the part for sure. Great arm, throws a good deep ball, and he grew up runing an offense where the QB makes running reads. Staley, 6'7" and big! Lefty... I think he has a sweet touch. The ball zips out with little effort. However, I think Tano will pass him up.

Then there is Williams. I'm not sure what we do with him. We are loaded at that position.

msstate7
11-19-2015, 12:45 PM
We have the top coach in making QBs. We have a great QB coach that we hired when Dak was taking over the reigns. Since then, Dak has become a legit passer. We redshirted the #1 QB from Tn, Tano.. 6'5 230! This kid will put heat on Fitz/Staley. Fitz is looking the part for sure. Great arm, throws a good deep ball, and he grew up runing an offense where the QB makes running reads. Staley, 6'7" and big! Lefty... I think he has a sweet touch. The ball zips out with little effort. However, I think Tano will pass him up.

Then there is Williams. I'm not sure what we do with him. We are loaded at that position.

Why you so hyped on tiano? Not doubting you... Just haven't heard much on him

Coach34
11-19-2015, 12:55 PM
AJ Brown is Leo Lewis 2.0

yes

Coach007
11-19-2015, 01:02 PM
Why you so hyped on tiano? Not doubting you... Just haven't heard much on him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK3-Qcr0mzQ


Here's a video. Runs, Throws in tight spaces really accurate. Now he has had a season under 2 of the best QB coaches.

Dawg-gone-dawgs
11-19-2015, 01:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK3-Qcr0mzQ


Here's a video. Runs, Throws in tight spaces really accurate. Now he has had a season under 2 of the best QB coaches.

Most people that are not excited about him are not excited because he didn't have 4 or 5 stars next to his name but he is a legit QB with great size.

biscuit
11-19-2015, 01:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK3-Qcr0mzQ


Here's a video. Runs, Throws in tight spaces really accurate. Now he has had a season under 2 of the best QB coaches.

I like it!

Coach007
11-19-2015, 01:53 PM
Most people that are not excited about him are not excited because he didn't have 4 or 5 stars next to his name but he is a legit QB with great size.

I like the kid! he may only get 1 or 2 years in, but he will play.

maroonmania
11-19-2015, 01:54 PM
I've heard very recently that Murphy has looked the most impressive in practice. Big and fast.

Hope its not the same source that was putting out that Shumpert had distanced himself in practice from any other RB. We see how that turned out.

maroonmania
11-19-2015, 01:59 PM
The OLine actually should be better next year. Jenkins is basically a co-starter with Warren, so really the only player we're losing is Malone. Jenkins should make a good jump this year, so we'll be better at LT. Clayborne and Senior probably aren't making a huge jump at this point, but they should be better. Desper probably isn't making a huge jump either, but he has issues that can be corrected. Calhoun should make a good jump this year, so he should replace Malone.

Wait, shit. That doesn't look much better. It looks like we'll go from horrendous to a small step above horrendous. Really need Rankin to be good (hard to believe he's capable of anything if he was redshirted this year) and need Calhoun to be better than Malone. Really shocked at how poorly our Oline has developed. I knew LT was going to be risky this year, but I'm shocked that as well as Clayborne played early on and with the experience Desper got last year, that they haven't been more effective. Malone hasn't gotten better at all and Senior has looked bad on a lot of plays too. Just a huge disappointment all around.

Any chance Malone is back next year with a medical RS 6th year?

HoopsDawg
11-19-2015, 02:03 PM
Hope its not the same source that was putting out that Shumpert had distanced himself in practice from any other RB. We see how that turned out.

You talking about Greg Knox?

louisvilledawg
11-19-2015, 02:05 PM
Everything I've heard from Ole Miss fans/family that follow the blue backpacks around say simmons is ole miss.

Feel like we must have Brown.

maroonmania
11-19-2015, 02:08 PM
You talking about Greg Knox?

He was definitely one of the sources saying it (maybe the primary one). Of course as RB coach he has primary say as to who plays unless Dan steps in.

maroonmania
11-19-2015, 02:10 PM
Everything I've heard from Ole Miss fans/family that follow the blue backpacks around say simmons is ole miss.

Feel like we must have Brown.

And what else would you expect? OM fans think they are getting everyone unless they, for some reason, know they are NOT going to get them. Nobody knows what Simmons will do at this point.

defiantdog
11-19-2015, 02:35 PM
We have the top coach in making QBs. We have a great QB coach that we hired when Dak was taking over the reigns. Since then, Dak has become a legit passer. We redshirted the #1 QB from Tn, Tano.. 6'5 230! This kid will put heat on Fitz/Staley. Fitz is looking the part for sure. Great arm, throws a good deep ball, and he grew up runing an offense where the QB makes running reads. Staley, 6'7" and big! Lefty... I think he has a sweet touch. The ball zips out with little effort. However, I think Tano will pass him up.

Then there is Williams. I'm not sure what we do with him. We are loaded at that position.

I like Tiano..... he'll be a gamer in a few years. He's got a quick release, but he lets the ball sail on him. He's young and he'll fix his problems. Miami wanted this kid bad out of high school. FSU would have offered if they didn't already get De'Andre Johnson to enroll early. But people just look at what recruiting sites say. He would have been an easy 4* if he was ready to play SEC football straight out of high school. Not too many kids are. He's a work in progress, but he'll progress into a damn good qb. He's not 6'5" though..... He may be 6'3". Fitz easily has a forehead on him.

msstate7
11-19-2015, 02:38 PM
I like Tiano..... he'll be a gamer in a few years. He's got a quick release, but he lets the ball sail on him. He's young and he'll fix his problems. Miami wanted this kid bad out of high school. FSU would have offered if they didn't already get De'Andre Johnson to enroll early. But people just look at what recruiting sites say. He would have been an easy 4* if he was ready to play SEC football straight out of high school. Not too many kids are. He's a work in progress, but he'll progress into a damn good qb. He's not 6'5" though..... He may be 6'3". Fitz easily has a forehead on him.

Can he run the ball?

defiantdog
11-19-2015, 02:42 PM
Can he run the ball?

Yeah, he needs to learn how to slide though.

defiantdog
11-19-2015, 03:07 PM
I do know one player that will play next year as a true freshmen..... Erroll Thompson. The dude has a motor and I really think he'll be a game changer at ILB or DE. Hopefully, he doesn't flip to Bama. They're pushing for him pretty hard lately.

HancockCountyDog
11-19-2015, 04:45 PM
Champion... Was the Top OT in the state and went juco. My understanding is he could be ready

A few others we are starting to get in with.

That will be tough for him to do since he will still be in juco next season.

Ifyouonlyknew
11-19-2015, 04:48 PM
I do know one player that will play next year as a true freshmen..... Erroll Thompson. The dude has a motor and I really think he'll be a game changer at ILB or DE. Hopefully, he doesn't flip to Bama. They're pushing for him pretty hard lately.

Going to be tough to play at MLB with Richie, Gerri, & Leo. I do think he's going to be a good 1 down the line. He's actually lost 10-15lbs down to 240lbs to make sure he can move & cover in the SEC.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 05:10 PM
That will be tough for him to do since he will still be in juco next season.

Since when was that decided?

Homedawg
11-19-2015, 06:01 PM
Since when was that decided?

He never had a realistic chance to be here next year. That was all talk, not reality. Hell, he wasnt going to graduate after 12 years and people thought he was getting out of juco in one?

HancockCountyDog
11-19-2015, 07:38 PM
Since when was that decided?

Right around the day he enrolled in juco.

HancockCountyDog
11-19-2015, 07:39 PM
Since when was that decided?

I'm surprised someone with as much inside info doesn't know this. It's been common knowledge for a while.

defiantdog
11-19-2015, 07:47 PM
Going to be tough to play at MLB with Richie, Gerri, & Leo. I do think he's going to be a good 1 down the line. He's actually lost 10-15lbs down to 240lbs to make sure he can move & cover in the SEC.

I take it that Diaz wants to move him into Benny's position.

Coach007
11-19-2015, 08:32 PM
I'm surprised someone with as much inside info doesn't know this. It's been common knowledge for a while.

Are you always constipated or is that just your general demeanor? Serious question.

HancockCountyDog
11-19-2015, 09:20 PM
Are you always constipated or is that just your general demeanor? Serious question.

Probably because I don't talk out of my ass.

dawgs
11-19-2015, 11:11 PM
Not sure if accurate, but a birdie told me two of the guys listed in this thread have already committed, but Mullen encouraged them to go and reap the benefits of the crootin process. But they will be signing with us.

Take it for what it's worth.

i know that if i were a coach, when the top guys on my board commit, i'd totally encourage them to keep it on the DL so that they aren't building momentum and to go take visits so other programs are rolling out the red carpet. nothing could go wrong there.

GreenheadDawg
11-19-2015, 11:13 PM
Probably because I don't talk out of my ass.

I'm convinced he googled " how to play football" before he joined.

Todd4State
11-20-2015, 12:23 AM
Most people that are not excited about him are not excited because he didn't have 4 or 5 stars next to his name but he is a legit QB with great size.

I think it's because Fitz and Staley look so good we forget what's down the line.