Southern game thread

[msstate7]

Defense is a huge issue early in the season

[mparkerfd20]

Yeah gotta get that fixed.

[preachermatt83]

They are draining 3s. Hard to defend that

[msstate7]

They are draining 3s. Hard to defend that

Plenty of lay ups too though

[BeardoMSU]

Score?

[mparkerfd20]

We aren't a tourney team... Yet

[Homedawg]

Score?

Down 5 at half

[preachermatt83]

45-40 them at half

[confucius say]

Score updates would be appreciated. Will not be able to keep up. Thanks in advance.

[msstate7]

We aren't a tourney team... Yet

Frontcourt depth and team defense could be what keeps us out

[Irondawg]

Really poor half on both ends honestly. On offense we are not penetrating at all and settling for a lot of 3s. Virtually no movement off the ball. Lots of turnovers as well when we try to run.

Defensively we are way too soft. Both games so far te opponent has been able to get anywhere they want on the floor. Their post guys are setting up right under the basket with little resistance.

We will probably pull away in the second half but I'm pretty disappointed in our defense early.

[ScoobaDawg]

Score updates would be appreciated. Will not be able to keep up. Thanks in advance.

take your pick...


http://espn.go.com/ncb/gamecast?gameId=400847339

http://www.hailstate.com/liveStats/v2/basketball/index.dbml?GAME_STAT_ID=2282769&db_oem_id=16800

[Dawgology]

Frontcourt depth and team defense could be what keeps us out

Especially with the way the refs are calling fouls this season

[Dawgology]

3 pointers keeping southern in the game. You can't live by 3's forever hope they cool off soon

[Dawgology]

Too many TO's. Pretty bad

[starkvegasdawg]

Are they still calling fouls for cutting a fart?

[Billy Ray Valentine]

Is there some random asshole out there draining 3s?

[Blackout]

put in Malik damn

[msstate7]

Not pleased with this team

[mparkerfd20]

We look like hot shit

[Homedawg]

Down 6 15 to go

[Bothrops]

Defensively we are going to have to get better, and soon!

[rolodawg]

What is the deal with the "ok" foam fingers?

[JayDawg]

We are out rebounding them 29-18, so that's at least a bright spot.

[msstate7]

Tie game... Time to pull away

[Big4Dawg]

What is the deal with the "ok" foam fingers?

Players do it after they make a 3 over their eye

[Irondawg]

Yep we need to get up by 7 and get a cushion

[rolodawg]

Players do it after they make a 3 over their eye

I kind of figured that, but since we just started to make a few......

[msstate7]

Weatherspoon is becoming my favorite player on this team. He's gonna be great

[JayDawg]

ball movement has really slowed down

[msstate7]

We're getting punked by southern

[mparkerfd20]

We are still a very bad team

[maroonmania]

Better pull this one out if we have any intentions of making the tourney.

[rolodawg]

I think we need to start a new moniker for our basketball team like we have "RTGDFB" for the football team. "FT17P" Feed The 17ing Post.

[preachermatt83]

Ready has not been very good at all tonight.

[msstate7]

We can't make the tourney tonight, but we might eliminate ourselves from contention. We have to survive this game. Stop settling for jumpshots

[Irondawg]

Man we look terrible at both ends right now. Slow ball movement and poor shot selection sometimes. We look like one of those great pickup teams that doesn't know what to do against a scrappy team that actually plays defense

[confucius say]

take your pick...


http://espn.go.com/ncb/gamecast?gameId=400847339

http://www.hailstate.com/liveStats/v2/basketball/index.dbml?GAME_STAT_ID=2282769&db_oem_id=16800

Awesome. Thanks scooba

[Quaoarsking]

What is the deal with the "ok" foam fingers?

Back in high school, my friends and I used to make that gesture at each other to mean "you're a *****." We would have loved to have some giant foam ones.

[msstate7]

When does baseball start?

[ScoobaDawg]

What is the deal with the "ok" foam fingers?

Or how about...a 3 point finger...

[msstate7]

We're rattled by a swac school

[preachermatt83]

We are not even attempting to get offensive boards

[msstate7]

One. Long. Season

[Dawg61]

Bye bye NCAA

[Irondawg]

Gonna be a miracle to win this one boys. As bad as we played the first half we found a way to play worse in the second offensively. My biggest beef is absolutely zero intensity of defense

[maroonmania]

We can't make the tourney tonight, but we might eliminate ourselves from contention. We have to survive this game. Stop settling for jumpshots

Exactly, this is the kind of loss that leaves you out of the tournament if you are anywhere near the bubble.

[JayDawg]

It's still very early in the season, the freshmen will get better and so will our defense. We aren't going to miss the tournament solely because of this game.

[99jc]

We are not even attempting to get offensive boards

This team has no chemistry! Long season in store I fear.

[JayDawg]

We definitely need to figure out how to score in the paint though.

[maroonmania]

Freakin' Sword turns the ball over at a critical point with a stupid dribble behind the back.

[TopDog58]

Pathetic

[mparkerfd20]

Well maybe basketball will be fun next year. I'm done. When is baseball?

[rolodawg]

19 TO
24 points given up off turnovers
16 points in the paint

Tough to beat any team with those stats....

Edited to add:
Given up 32 in paint

[Homedawg]

Exactly, this is the kind of loss that leaves you out of the tournament if you are anywhere near the bubble.

This isn't an NCAA team. Doesn't matter

[msstate7]

We can't get this group of seniors out of here quick enough... Pathetic effort

[thedawg]

Our senior leader just tried to dribble behind his back in traffic in the lane.. Thats all u need to know about tonight

[Quaoarsking]

I'm kinda surprised how disappointed I am in this. Talk about a season-killer out of the gate.

It's not like we have a young team that needs to gel. By my quick count, we have 280 combined starts over the last 3 years on this roster. You can't get much more experienced than that.

[msstate7]

19 TO
24 points given up off turnovers
16 points in the paint

Tough to beat any team with those stats....

Edited to add:
Given up 32 in paint

And we forced hardly any

[JayDawg]

The problem is the seniors haven't had a coach.

[mparkerfd20]

Gotta make those FTs

[Quaoarsking]

**** IJ Ready. **** the whole team.

[msstate7]

Ready shot us out of the game...

[maroonmania]

When does baseball start?**

[Irondawg]

Missing those free throws at 74-72 didn't help

[thedawg]

We still suck

[Blackout]

It's year ZERO for Howland. Look at the dumpster fire Ray left!**

[mparkerfd20]

Damn you Ray

[99jc]

If Malik is one and done i'll kiss your arse!

[JohnnyQuid]

that was painful to watch.

[BrunswickDawg]

We're rattled by a swac school
Howland can't get us to the next level***

[Blackout]

Wasted years with Dak

Wasted year with Malik

[MSUDawg13]

Can we go back to Saturday morning and restart? What a shitastic 3 days for Mississippi State sports

[Dawg61]

Mother****er

[TopDog58]

Good thing Malik will be in the NBA next year and wont face any more SWAC powerhouses

[CadaverDawg]

Seemed like we got away from what worked so well in the second half the other night.

Oh well. Bad loss, but all we can do is make sure we don't have anymore bad ones.

[JohnnyQuid]

Ready shot us out of the game...

yea, he was key in the comeback but played shit at the end. Thomas wide open under the bucket and ready hogs ball and gets stuffed. wonder if he's trying to be the hero. frustrating

[PendingTransaction]

No matter how you cut it, getting beat by SU at home is bad.

[rolodawg]

Ready shot us out of the game...

He also shot us back in......

Not a Ready apologist, we lack leadership. We have week rebounders on both ends. Flat top seemed to be our only consistent rebounder tonight. We have no post defense.

[CadaverDawg]

No matter how you cut it, getting beat by SU at home is bad.

Yea, Rick Ray smiled tonight.

[HailState39110]

Fire Stans!

[ScoobaDawg]

Yea.... Thanks Ray. Howland will mold this team better, but the talent isn't there. No surprise really.
And it won't be a waste with Malik.. he will make the team better. we will win some games we arent supposed to because of him as he matures.
No matter what. Signing Malkik helped with us getting the recruiting class we have coming next year.

[Dawg61]

We got almost no points on transition this game and settled for jacking 3s all-game. Way too many turnovers. Not nearly enough turnovers created.

[ZedFedder]

Ready thinks he is an NBA point guard when in reality is an above average college point guard. Newman was pressing or nervous or both. Ready is fine when he plays within himself. The bad part is, when he makes a few, some switch in him comes on and he thinks he has the Kobe green light. Also, never going to Gavin in the 2nd half was a huge mistake. This team can't take 30 threes and be successful. Id be willing to bet it'll be a tough few practices.

[CadaverDawg]

Ready looked like a ball hog version of Gary Ervin at the end. What the hell?

[Blackout]

Why can other 1 and done's come in and wreck havoc but ours scores 6 against a SWAC team??

[ScoobaDawg]

Good thing Malik will be in the NBA next year and wont face any more SWAC powerhouses

Your an IDIOT. One day of practice after being sidelined for several weeks.

[djaymsu5]

Absolutely can not happen! Complete shit show. Double digit turnovers and southern capitalizing on them was the story of the game. Malik was 1 for 6 at the line. Idc if you have been out or not as good as he is he cannot miss free throws. It seemed like for most of the game southern couldn't miss a damn shot but regardless we got out played tonight and nonshulantly made some really bad shots. Ready shooting that ball so quick at the end was absolutely idiotic. I understand we are only in game 2 with a new coach but losing to a swac school should never happen. I'm pissed! I hope Howland runs the sh** out of them in practice tomorrow. This team has potential for sure but we foul way to much and turn the ball over way too much. Just don't see how you go from what we did Friday night to that.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

How many minutes did Newman play?

[rolodawg]

Yea.... Thanks Ray. Howland will mold this team better, but the talent isn't there. No surprise really.
And it won't be a waste with Malik.. he will make the team better. we will win some games we arent supposed to because of him as he matures.
No matter what. Signing Malkik helped with us getting the recruiting class we have coming next year.

I agree he is a much needed player for our program, but he needs to hit those Free Throws (1-5).

[confucius say]

I didn't get to watch. For those of you who did, was the game called really tight on defensive end like Friday? Seemed like you couldn't get into people defensively at all without a whistle blowing. I know it's supposed to be a point of emphasis to allow more offensive freedom this year, but dang.

[tcdog70]

Make free throws and cut TOs in half.

[TopDog58]

Your an IDIOT. One day of practice after being sidelined for several weeks. It was a SWAC team, not Duke. Unbelievable. I don't care what his practice status was. A supposed one and done doesn't come in and look pathetic against a 300 ranked team.

[BeardoMSU]

Ready thinks he is an NBA point guard when in reality is an above average college point guard

I think you're being a tad generous here...

[HancockCountyDog]

Ready looked like a ball hog version of Gary Ervin at the end. What the hell?

I'm a bad fan , didn't realize we had a game. Is the SwAC Southern? I'm hoping it's Southern Miss.

Please be southern miss.

[JohnnyQuid]

I didn't get to watch. For those of you who did, was the game called really tight on defensive end like Friday? Seemed like you couldn't get into people defensively at all without a whistle blowing. I know it's supposed to be a point of emphasis to allow more offensive freedom this year, but dang.

pretty tight. ware and sword both fouled out and they had a guy foul out. I felt there were 2 really terrible calls against us near the end as well.

[CadaverDawg]

Need less STARZ and more Diamonds!1!!1!!***

[JohnnyQuid]

I'm a bad fan , didn't realize we had a game. Is the SwAC Southern? I'm hoping it's Southern Miss.

Please be southern miss.

swac

[RougeDawg]

19 turnovers and 31 three point attempts is a recipe for disaster any time you play. May be a nice wake up call.

[Dawg61]

It was a SWAC team, not Duke. Unbelievable. I don't care what his practice status was. A supposed one and done doesn't come in and look pathetic against a 300 ranked team.

Yea they are a SWAC school but they aren't the 300th best team in the country. They will win 20+.

[CadaverDawg]

I'm a bad fan , didn't realize we had a game. Is the SwAC Southern? I'm hoping it's Southern Miss.

Please be southern miss.

I wish. We got punked by Southern U tonight. Be glad you're a bad fan tonight...it will make it easier for you to prep for baseball.*

[JohnnyQuid]

19 turnovers and 31 three point attempts is a recipe for disaster any time you play. May be a nice wake up call.

yea makes little to zero sense to shoot that many 3s with how the games are being called. drive to the basket and gonna get foul calls more times than not at the moment

[mparkerfd20]

They had a 198 rpi this morning

[rolodawg]

Ready thinks he is an NBA point guard when in reality is an above average college point guard. Newman was pressing or nervous or both. Ready is fine when he plays within himself. The bad part is, when he makes a few, some switch in him comes on and he thinks he has the Kobe green light. Also, never going to Gavin in the 2nd half was a huge mistake. This team can't take 30 threes and be successful. Id be willing to bet it'll be a tough few practices.

i agree with not feeding the post for the most part. I think Gavin needs to do a better job protecting/passing out of the double team. The problem with feeding the post with the players we have is that our Center is the size of a PF and we do a poor job feeding the post. I think if you look at who we have committed/signed for the next class it is evident what we are lacking with this roster.

[CadaverDawg]

They had a 198 rpi this morning

Not anymore, ha

[Quaoarsking]

Southern MIGHT have an RPI in the top 200 when it's all said and done. The SWAC has had 6 top 200 teams over the last 5 seasons, according to WarrenNolan.

[mparkerfd20]

Not anymore, ha
Yeah we were 74ish. Bet we swap