17 in College Football Playoff Rankings

[starkvegasdawg]

Moving on up.

[Statefan]

Bama at 2
FSU was 16, lost, and is still 16 which is interesting

[TUSK]

ND in the Top 4....

Love it!

[engie]

The playoff was one step forward and two steps back for college football. The bcs was much better at picking teams.

[Statefan]

The playoff was one step forward and two steps back for college football. The bcs was much better at picking teams.

All theyve done is guarantee equal representation from all the conferences (except the big 12) regardless of which 4 teams are actually the best

[IMissJack]

"17" is it a sign?

[ShotgunDawg]

All theyve done is guarantee equal representation from all the conferences (except the big 12) regardless of which 4 teams are actually the best

This

When the idea of a playoff first started, I thought it would be a way for the SEC to get two teams, but I've quickly come to realize it's a socialistic model designed to give everyone a chance.

It will be much better when it expands to 8 teams. That will great for MSU & the SEC.

[starkvegasdawg]

This

When the idea of a playoff first started, I thought it would be a way for the SEC to get two teams, but I've quickly come to realize it's a socialistic model designed to give everyone a chance.

It will be much better when it expands to 8 teams. That will great for MSU & the SEC.

It'll also allow TSUN to think their season is still relevant for an extra week each season.

[Todd4State]

That's about where I thought we would be. I think I said 16.

[BeardoMSU]

"17" is it a sign?

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[Todd4State]

The playoff was one step forward and two steps back for college football. The bcs was much better at picking teams.

Exactly. The old system was better at picking the best teams but the problem was only two got a shot for the championship. I was afraid this would happen when I heard that the computer would be taken out or lessened significantly.

[RougeDawg]

I may be missing something but haven't we been in every playoff poll that's been released since inception? Need a good showing this week to keep the streak alive.

And based on what I saw this past weekend. We should be higher than 17 and are better than some of the one loss teams ahead of us.

[BeardoMSU]

I may be missing something but haven't we been in every playoff poll that's been released since inception? Need a good showing this week to keep the streak alive.

And based on what I saw this past weekend. We should be higher than 17 and are better than some of the one loss teams ahead of us.

We should at least be 16. Fla-State losing and not budging is hilarious.

[PassInterference]

The playoff was one step forward and two steps back for college football. The bcs was much better at picking teams.

Ohio State wouldn't have played in the BCS CG. But the won a natty and were unquestionably the best team after the playoffs.

[DancingRabbit]

The playoff was one step forward and two steps back for college football. The bcs was much better at picking teams.

Mostly agree, but I felt a little better about the BCS before the AP dropped out of it.

Here's a BCS-equivalent poll I look at from time to time.

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

[BeardoMSU]

Ohio State wouldn't have played in the BCS CG. But the won a natty and were unquestionably the best team after the playoffs.

This. The problem isn't the Playoff, the problem is the 4-team Playoff. When it moves to 8, it will be good to go.

[BulldogBear]

We should at least be 16. Fla-State losing and not budging is hilarious.

That is to prop Clemson up when the time comes.

[BeardoMSU]

That is to prop Clemson up when the time comes.

Good point.

[shoeless joe]

We should at least be 16. Fla-State losing and not budging is hilarious.

Why? I've never understood this point of view. If FSU really is the 16th team in the country then SHOULDNT they lose to the #1 team? Did losing to Clemson prove that FSU isn't #16 best team in the country?

I have no problem with them not losing considering Clemson is and was #1.

[engie]

Ohio State wouldn't have played in the BCS CG. But the won a natty and were unquestionably the best team after the playoffs.

And TCU was the best team in the country at the end of the season last year. I'm missing the point. Ohio St winning it was a call for 8 -- not a justification for their presence based on their actual resume. Anyone can catch lightning in a bottle in a playoff. Rarely does the best team over the cumulative total of a season win in any playoff league. That's something college football unfortunately lost in the new system IMO. 2 gave the "best season" a 50/50 chance. 4 gives it a 25-30% chance. 8 will put it under 20%.

[ShotgunDawg]

Why? I've never understood this point of view. If FSU really is the 16th team in the country then SHOULDNT they lose to the #1 team? Did losing to Clemson prove that FSU isn't #16 best team in the country?

I have no problem with them not losing considering Clemson is and was #1.

Agree. That's one of my pet peeves with rankings. People think because you win you should move up & because you lost, you should move down.

What I want is the teams ranked from 1-25 in order of who the best team is. It's funny to me that the media will do this when they rank "NFL Power Rankings" or rank the teams in any professional sport & college baseball, but, for some reason, in college football, the media thinks you are as good as your record is.

[blacklistedbully]

Why? I've never understood this point of view. If FSU really is the 16th team in the country then SHOULDNT they lose to the #1 team? Did losing to Clemson prove that FSU isn't #16 best team in the country?

I have no problem with them not losing considering Clemson is and was #1.

FSU at #16 is BS. It's not just that they lost to #1 Clemson, they lost by 10, got more than doubled up on 1st downs, and gave up 512 yards of offense.

We got shafted. Though we didn't play a ranked team, or even a team that has a winning record, we did play a team that is acknowledged as having a great defense, and we hung 31 on them paying 1/2 the game in a monsoon.

Straight up BS that we are behind them.

[cubswillwinitonedaydawg]

Why? I've never understood this point of view. If FSU really is the 16th team in the country then SHOULDNT they lose to the #1 team? Did losing to Clemson prove that FSU isn't #16 best team in the country?

I have no problem with them not losing considering Clemson is and was #1.

I don't disagree but the committee was inconsistent this week. LSU loses by 14 to a top 5 team, drops 7 spots. FSU loses by 10 to a top 5 team, stays put. All that being said, a win Saturday cures any gripe about being behind any 2 loss teams - we would leapfrog FSU and a few others.

[BeardoMSU]

I don't disagree but the committee was inconsistent this week. LSU loses to a top 5 team, drops 7 spots. FSU loses by 10 to a top 5 team, stays put. All that being said, a win Saturday cures any gripe about being behind any 2 loss teams - we would leapfrog FSU and a few others.

Exactly. Let's say we lose to Bama by 2.....where would we fall to? What happened when we lost by 2 to LSU? Weren't we #25 at the time? I assume we were still ranked #25 the following week.

[Jack Lambert]

No play off is going to be real until they let more teams in. Go to 11 regular season games and have 8 teams. the winner of the p 5 get automatic bid. Everyone else including ND and BYU have to win to get in.

I think it is going to take the SEC being left out before they make a move.

[TUSK]

I don't disagree but the committee was inconsistent this week. LSU loses by 14 to a top 5 team, drops 7 spots. FSU loses by 10 to a top 5 team, stays put. All that being said, a win Saturday cures any gripe about being behind any 2 loss teams - we would leapfrog FSU and a few others.

I thought LSU got hosed... But the committee prolly factored in the level of gang raping they endured...

FSU is ranked about right (give a spot or 2), IMO...

[blacklistedbully]

Agree. That's one of my pet peeves with rankings. People think because you win you should move up & because you lost, you should move down.

What I want is the teams ranked from 1-25 in order of who the best team is. It's funny to me that the media will do this when they rank "NFL Power Rankings" or rank the teams in any professional sport & college baseball, but, for some reason, in college football, the media thinks you are as good as your record is.

10-point Clemson win.
1st downs - Clemson 29, FSU 14
Total yds - Clemson 512, FSU 361
3rd down efficiency -Clemson 7-17, FSU 2-12
Clemson took a knee at the FSU 23 to end the game

FSU deserved to drop.

[blacklistedbully]

I don't disagree but the committee was inconsistent this week. LSU loses by 14 to a top 5 team, drops 7 spots. FSU loses by 10 to a top 5 team, stays put. All that being said, a win Saturday cures any gripe about being behind any 2 loss teams - we would leapfrog FSU and a few others.

But then we will possibly get 1 or 2 less spots then we might have, depending on what other teams do. We need to get as high as possible as fast as possible. Should have been no worse than 16, perhaps as high as 14.

[bluelightstar]

10-point Clemson win.
1st downs - Clemson 29, FSU 14
Total yds - Clemson 512, FSU 361
3rd down efficiency -Clemson 7-17, FSU 2-12
Clemson took a knee at the FSU 23 to end the game

FSU deserved to drop.

As I recall, wasn't FSU driving late to attempt to take the lead (it was 16-13), the FSU QB threw a pick, Clemson bust a long run, and then FSU turned it over on downs. The stats show Clemson should've probably won decisively, but FSU had a chance to win that game really late.

[blacklistedbully]

As I recall, wasn't FSU driving late to attempt to take the lead (it was 16-13), the FSU QB threw a pick, Clemson bust a long run, and then FSU turned it over on downs. The stats show Clemson should've probably won decisively, but FSU had a chance to win that game really late.

So now we're rewarding teams because they, "had a chance to go ahead late in the game"? Know what else the stats don't show? That Clemson took a knee at the FSU 23 to run the clock out.

Also, FSU wan't driving. That FSU drive was all of 9 yards. They had a 44 yard kickoff return, then couldn't get a 1st down. Clemson took over at their own 40, drove for a TD. After the following KO, FSU got only to their own 22 before completing a 25 yard pass that was then fumbled to Clemson on the same play. Clemson could have scored again, but chose to take a knee instead.

[CadaverDawg]

Great point about how socialistic the system is. A perfect example is Danny "Douche" Kannell stating that He has Bama at #4, "despite thinking they can probably beat my Top 3", because of their loss.

So in other words...Kannell is NOTabout putting the best 4 teams in the Playoff, but instead about being fair and polite to those who play weak schedules. It's bogus. That's why it scares me if we expand to 8....not because I don't like an 8 team playoff, I do...but because it will be 8 conference winners. Meaning a 6-6 Georgia Tech will represent the ACC some years while a 10-2 SEC team is left out. I DO NOT want auto bids. 1st and foremost.

But just like participation trophies and trying to be "fair" in this sissy society...if the playoff is expanded, it WILL be auto bid to conference champs. Hell, it basically already is. That's why we have so much butthurt...we have a "Power 5" plus Notre Dame, but only 4 playoff spots. So everyone is worried how it can be fair to conference winners, when it's not about that. It's about putting the best 4 in...so if it expands, I want the best 8 in. Not the conference champs regardless of record.

[TUSK]

As I recall, wasn't FSU driving late to attempt to take the lead (it was 16-13), the FSU QB threw a pick, Clemson bust a long run, and then FSU turned it over on downs. The stats show Clemson should've probably won decisively, but FSU had a chance to win that game really late.

FSU had the ball late in the 4th, down 3 points... and they are a very good team...

Clemson is legit...

If Bammer is fortunate enough to make the CFP, Clemson concerns me most... conversely, I relish the thought of playing ND, again...

[smootness]

Why? I've never understood this point of view. If FSU really is the 16th team in the country then SHOULDNT they lose to the #1 team? Did losing to Clemson prove that FSU isn't #16 best team in the country?

I have no problem with them not losing considering Clemson is and was #1.

Agreed.

[cheewgumm]

I agree with Dave Bartoo this am on Bo Bounds. They just use the rankings to pump other teams and justify what they are doing.

The 4 team playoff is horrible for the SEC as it no longer allows a Bama v LSU situation again. If it stays like this you are better being in the ACC than the SEC.

[ShotgunDawg]

Does anyone else keep reading the title of this thread and seeing "**** in college football playoff rankings"?

[Bass Chaser]

^^^^ Yes. Based on what the committee is doing if we lose Saturday we probably fall out of ranking since we will be a 3 loss team.

[DancingRabbit]

As we saw last year nothing matters except the last poll.

Everything before that is just a shell game.

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[TUSK]

As we saw last year nothing matters except the last poll.

Everything before that is just a shell game.

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NICE!

and true.

[sleepy dawg]

Mostly agree, but I felt a little better about the BCS before the AP dropped out of it.

Here's a BCS-equivalent poll I look at from time to time.

http://www.colleyrankings.com/curBcsLike.html

I felt better when the AP dropped out of it. The AP and the coaches poll (and harrison poll) are all worse than the committee. It needs to be completely computer based which get more and more accurate each week. Give everybody the formula. In Pro sports you know exactly what you have to do to get in. At least in college basketball you can win your conference and guarantee an entree, but besides that it's in someone's hands and no person watches every game. If you can't watch every game you aren't qualified enough to pick who plays in the playoffs.

[CJDAWG85]

LSU loses to #4 and drops 7 spots
Fla St. Loses to #1 and doesn't drop at all



They love them some FSU.

[cheewgumm]

FSU justifies Clemson so they're not going anywhere

[Dawg61]

I would like to see a 32 team playoff system. Eliminate three non-conference games.

[deltadawg99]

We need an 8 team playoff. 5 spots guaranteed for the power 5 conference champs and gives 3 spots left to pick. Independents, non power 5, multiple conference reps etc.

There has never nor will ever be a perfect system. IMO the 8 team playoff makes the most sense.

[Reason2succeed]

17 Alabama! 17 the SEC! All I care about is Mississippi State. Remember how they treated us when we were poised to get in last year. 17 all of them!