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[maroonmania]

DAN, please run Lee and Williams and quit trying to prove to everyone that you were NOT wrong in your RB evaluations!

[CadaverDawg]

DAN, please run Lee and Williams and quit trying to prove to everyone that you were NOT wrong in your RB evaluations!

THIS!

[ShotgunDawg]

This is when you run 20 lead up the ass until the offense earns the chance to run something else.

[MSUDawg4Life]

Holloway is an embarrassment. He may get a good run every now and then, but my 5 year old daughter could tackle him

Nah. Holloway is 150 pounds. He's doing the best he can. Physics kinda dictates what happens when a 240 pound guy or a 300 pound guy hits a 150 pound guy.

I love Holloway. Love his dedication to the team. Love his determination. But, you can't change the laws of physics.

[CadaverDawg]

Quit being a stubborn bastard, and put your best RB's on the damn field. This is getting so frustrating to watch, because we can be so much better offensively if Dan will just quit being a blockhead

[Matt3467]

Holloway is exactly like an Onterrio McCaleb that Auburn used as a change of pace back to spread the defense out. I don't recall Malzahn running him inside very often because of his size. Why we run Holloway up the middle I'll never understand.

[Bothrops]

Lee ran through the middle twice for like 8 yards each=bench his ass.

[CadaverDawg]

Nah. Holloway is 150 pounds. He's doing the best he can. Physics kinda dictates what happens when a 240 pound guy or a 300 pound guy hits a 150 pound guy.

I love Holloway. Love his dedication to the team. Love his determination. But, you can't change the laws of physics.

Yep, it ain't Holloway's fault that Dan keeps running his 150 lb ass into a brick wall thinking he will somehow break through

[Treemydawg]

With us having to repeatedly watch Holloway up the gut I'm now pretty sure Dan is the damn dumbest smart person I know.

[Coach007]

He's not trying g to prove he went wrong. The ol was blown up on that play.

Here's the deal. They have to block better, and we have to call better plays to get some pressure off of them. On one of those runs, there was a small seam.

However.. 2nd and 2 and not getting the first. Everybody gets chewed out!!

[BrunswickDawg]

Fitz has touch

[CadaverDawg]

Fitz looks like a damn pro passer out there. Hard to believe this guy was a WR most of his life

[MSUDawg4Life]

Fitz and Bear beasting.

[ShotgunDawg]

Fitz throws the deep ball far better than Dak.

He gets it up in the air

[ShotgunDawg]

Shit, put Fitz at running back over Shump. He runs far lower

[smootness]

Holy crap, Fitzgerald.

[HaggardDawg]

Would it be sac religious to think Fitz throws it much better than Dak?

[ShotgunDawg]

Dak's deep balls come out flat. Fitz's come out with arch.

Fitz has a huge future

[CadaverDawg]

Fitzgerald's arm is better every time he throws

[ShotgunDawg]

Would it be sac religious to think Fitz throws it much better than Dak?

No, he's more physically talented. Dak is good though & commands the offense better.

[drunkernhelldawg]

It's hard to tell who the best running backs are until we get a scheme that gives them a chance.

[defiantdog]

Lee only has positive plays. But we seem to play these garbage RBs instead. Thank you Fitz for giving us a future at qb. But Dan needs to wake up and put in the best RB!

[CadaverDawg]

Smokey plays with emotion regardless of score. haha

[ShotgunDawg]

It's hard to tell who the best running backs are until we get a scheme that gives them a chance.

I don't think it's hard. Fairly obvious to me

[Matt3467]

Dak is the best QB we've ever had at MSU. We would be nowhere near the team we've been the last few years without him. Fitz is good, but I'm not exalting him over Dak yet.

[DownwardDawg]

Holy crap, Fitzgerald.

He's unbelievable.

[CadaverDawg]

Lee only has positive plays. But we seem to play these garbage RBs instead. Thank you Fitz for giving us a future at qb. But Dan needs to wake up and put in the best RB!

Scary thing....Shump and Holloway will be back next year.

[defiantdog]

No, he's more physically talented. Dak is good though & commands the offense better.
Fitz throws a pretty pass though

[drunkernhelldawg]

Would it be sac religious to think Fitz throws it much better than Dak?

I'm very impressed, but we haven't seen him vs. the level of competition Dak has faced.

[DownwardDawg]

Dak is the best QB we've ever had at MSU. We would be nowhere near the team we've been the last few years without him. Fitz is good, but I'm not exalting him over Dak yet.

Nobody is, but this is what Dans good at. QB's

[defiantdog]

Scary thing....Shump and Holloway will be back next year.
That comment makes me want to throw my cowbell at my dog

[ShotgunDawg]

Wow, Manny just held Troy to 31 yards of offense in the first half.

South Panola may get more than that against MSU

[DownwardDawg]

Damn Dan is weird.

[CadaverDawg]

Wow, Manny just held Troy to 31 yards of offense in the first half.

South Panola may get more than that against MSU

And -20 rushing yards.

[BrunswickDawg]

Fitz is 5/6 for 91, and is our leading rusher with 37. I called him for 50 yards rushing in the Prediction Thread yesterday.

[CadaverDawg]

Not gonna lie, I thought Clemson was a fluke, and that they'd come out and lay an egg against GTech this week after the Notre Dame win.....I was wrong. Up 33-6 at the half. Clemson may be a legit playoff contender since they're in the ACC.

[CadaverDawg]

Fitz is 5/6 for 91, and is our leading rusher with 37. I called him for 50 yards rushing in the Prediction Thread yesterday.

He may get 150

[Bothrops]

Fitz can't do it all by himself ***

[msstate7]

Not gonna lie, I thought Clemson was a fluke, and that they'd come out and lay an egg against GTech this week after the Notre Dame win.....I was wrong. Up 33-6 at the half. Clemson may be a legit playoff contender since they're in the ACC.

Here's another contender... Michigan

Up 28-0 over #13 northwestern in 3rd. Since losing to top 10 Utah opening night by 7, Michigan has outscored their opponents 150 to 14... Given up 2 td's in over 4 1/2 games

[IMissJack]

I was hoping one of the younger backs would go off for 200 today, to give Dan something to think about.

[BrunswickDawg]

Fitz can't do it all by himself ***
Fitz doesn't have enough around him.***

[BrunswickDawg]

Here's another contender... Michigan

Up 28-0 over #13 northwestern in 3rd. Since losing to top 10 Utah opening night by 7, Michigan has outscored their opponents 150 to 14... Given up 2 td's in over 4 1/2 games
And their D had been insane.

[Coach007]

We will be improved on offense by a lot. That's just going to be fact.

[Coach007]

We need to finish strong this season. Get the recruiting up a bit. And be ready for a contender season in 2016

[BrunswickDawg]

Great read Bennie!

[ShotgunDawg]

The inability to gain a yard when we need to on the ground is deeply concerning

[CadaverDawg]

Blockhead

[IMissJack]

I just don't understand Dan. 4th and 1 and we go shotgun and run outside. That is just not smart.

[ShotgunDawg]

This is awfully concerning. This offense has big problems. Heavesy will have to do his best coaching job of the year for us to finish strong.

[drunkernhelldawg]

I would have rather just kicked the field goal. Keep building that unit's confidence.

[Coach007]

Bad read by Fitz on the 3rd down.

[ShotgunDawg]

I just don't understand Dan. 4th and 1 and we go shotgun and run outside. That is just not smart.

Not the point. The point is that we couldn't get it twice in a row.

If your blaming playcalling right now, your missing the forest for the trees. This offensive line has major run blocking issues that don't seem to be improving in the slightest from week to week

[Coach007]

It is very bad when u,can't get a yard.

[defiantdog]

We can't get a yard against Troy..... Really?

[drunkernhelldawg]

I just don't understand Dan. 4th and 1 and we go shotgun and run outside. That is just not smart.

It wasn't a situation where we really needed it. Would hate to see it with something on the line.

[maroonmania]

This is awfully concerning. This offense has big problems. Heavesy will have to do his best coaching job of the year for us to finish strong.

This^^. You know its bad when on 4th and 1 we try a reverse handoff because we have no faith we can go straight ahead for 1 yard.

[ShotgunDawg]

It is very bad when u,can't get a yard.

THIS

We should be able to tell Troy what play we are running & gain 2 yards on two plays.

[IMissJack]

Not the point. The point is that we couldn't get it twice in a row.

If your blaming playcalling right now, your missing the forest for the trees. This offensive line has major run blocking issues that don't seem to be improving in the slightest from week to week

Thanks for enlightening me! I'm disgusted that an SEC team cannot line up with a QB under center hand it off and get 1 freaking yd. I get what you are saying, that we should get it with any called play. But, we and many teams go into the shotgun in goal line situations and short yardage situations, when it is stupid.

[drunkernhelldawg]

Another reason to have kicked the field goal is we shouldn't reward the offense for failing to convert third down by letting them stay out there.

[ShotgunDawg]

Thanks for enlightening me! I'm disgusted that an SEC team cannot line up with a QB under center hand it off and get 1 freaking yd. I get what you are saying, that we should get it with any called play. But, we and many teams go into the shotgun in goal line situations and short yardage situations, when it is stupid.

Suck it up & don't be an ass.

It worked great last year. I blame Mullen for play calling at times, but it's such a cheap, uneducated thing to blame. Good football teams can line up & ram it down the throats of teams they are better than

[Sacrifice]

Does ANYBODY have any inside info why Lee doesn't get to play. I've never seen anything like this. Everytime Lee comes in he looks great.

[Coach007]

Defense is in need of picking it ip. Finish with fire.

[ShotgunDawg]

Another reason to have kicked the field goal is we shouldn't reward the offense for failing to convert third down by letting them stay out there.

I don't disagree with your thinking, but we need all the plays we can get.

I'd run it right up the middle 3 times in a row on the next drive & keep doing it till the o-line decides they are ready to grow a nut sack

[IMissJack]

Why don't quit trying to educate everyone and let someone else have an opinion.

[defiantdog]

Green is something else at MLB..... He really dictates the middle of the field

[drunkernhelldawg]

Thanks for enlightening me! I'm disgusted that an SEC team cannot line up with a QB under center hand it off and get 1 freaking yd. I get what you are saying, that we should get it with any called play. But, we and many teams go into the shotgun in goal line situations and short yardage situations, when it is stupid.

I agree. I read the other day though that a lot of contemporary quarterbacks have trouble lining up under center. It seems I read that Dak was practicing it.

[ShotgunDawg]

Why don't quit trying to educate everyone and let someone else have an opinion.

You can state all the opinions that you want. No one is stopping that. But it doesn't mean your opinion is correct or well thought out.

Do you want a trophy for a sub-par opinion?

[drunkernhelldawg]

Truth time for the D. Time to make a play.

[maroonmania]

I see why Graham isn't playing. Looked lost on that 4th down coverage.

[ShotgunDawg]

Horrible spot

[defiantdog]

Jackson sucks

[ShotgunDawg]

Get Calvin's ass out there. That's JUCO BS. In D1 football, you don't get pissed off & retaliate after someone scores. Just pathetic

[Sacrifice]

Is Richie Brown hurt? I saw him limp off the field earlier and I haven't seen him since.

[maroonmania]

Horrible spot

Yea, I would like to see that 4th down run again, not sure he got that.

[RougeDawg]

I see why Graham isn't playing. Looked lost on that 4th down coverage.

Yes and then on that next one he could have easily slapped the ball down but let's the WR catch the ball. Seems to be a recurring theme from our DB's, stand there, let the WR catch the ball, and then try to tackle.

[PMDawg]

Why don't quit trying to educate everyone and let someone else have an opinion.

Rep point given

[ShotgunDawg]

Yea, I would like to see that 4th down run again, not sure he got that.

For whatever reason, replay officials have a history of doing this during non-conference games

http://atlantatorch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/falling-asleep-at-your-desk-on-a-sunday-is-never-a-good-thing.jpg

[defiantdog]

Yes and then on that next one he could have easily slapped the ball down but let's the WR catch the ball. Seems to be a recurring theme from our DB's, stand there, let the WR catch the ball, and then try to tackle.
Graham still needs to learn the position

[JohnnyQuid]

this officiating crew is straight garbage. they've missed at least 3 blatant things. the non review of the interception, the running back false start, and 2 punches right in front of a official. gotta be sun belt crew I'm assuming

[ShotgunDawg]

Rep point given

Rep point deducted

[Coach007]

Graham has made some great plays in this game. It's his first year at the position. He blew up A buble screen.

[Maroonthirteen]

SDS article on MSU in ...3, 2,1.....

(Scuffling incident after TD)

[CadaverDawg]

Holloway has reverted to his old form the last few games. The real Holloway is back.

[defiantdog]

Rep point deducted
Let the ego go Mullen

[Op4isabitch]

Tell me why Lee isn't at the running back position and we keep trotting ****ing Shump and Holloway out there, mind is blown.

[RougeDawg]

Graham still needs to learn the position

Is this his first season playing football? If you can slap the ball away from the offensive guy you do. You don't need a coach to tell you that. Also if a WR looks up in the air, not down toward ground level at the QB, most likely something is flying his way. Either watch the WR's eyes or get your head around to find the ball. He had the sideline as a 2nd defender. No instincts at all.

[ShotgunDawg]

Let the ego go Mullen

Not sure what the ego is. They aren't making counter points.

[CadaverDawg]

Lee is the only guy getting consistent positive yardage

[ShotgunDawg]

There goes Lee again. He pushes the pile

[Sacrifice]

Lee for 6

[maroonmania]

Lee MOVES the pile forward. Good leg drive.

[ShotgunDawg]

Alright Fitz. Starters can't get careless

[BrunswickDawg]

Why do all our guys carry the ball with the inside hand?

[JohnnyQuid]

nothing like letting troy have the ball the whole 3rd quarter and us running 7 plays of offense.

[Coach007]

Is this his first season playing football? If you can slap the ball away from the offensive guy you do. You don't need a coach to tell you that. Also if a WR looks up in the air, not down toward ground level at the QB, most likely something is flying his way. Either watch the WR's eyes or get your head around to find the ball. He had the sideline as a 2nd defender. No instincts at all.


Yeah... it's kinda different in d1 football than in hs. It is what it is. Either he will learn, or he won't play much. Nothing g to be upset over in this game.

[ShotgunDawg]

Offense bogs down again

[SheltonChoked]

Got to get the shoulder down fitz. But the defender got a helmet on the ball. Not much you can do about that.

[ShotgunDawg]

Is this the worst offense of the Mullen era?

I honestly can't remember.

[defiantdog]

Why do all our guys carry the ball with the inside hand?
Poor coaching

[Op4isabitch]

Hey Cadaver, what are you getting at on my rep?

[Coach007]

It's not the best that is for sure. He's going to have to settle on a back. It's harder to get in a groove like this.

[ShotgunDawg]

Poor coaching

Some running back coaches teach that it's more dangerous to change hands than it is just to keep it in the inside hand.

Are we sure this is poor coaching?

IDK, but it would be a great thing for someone to ask Mullen on Dawgs talk or something

[msstate7]

Our offense is bad. I think it's time to drop the no huddle crap. All it does is keep our defense on the field all game. Our defense is our strong side so help them out

[Sacrifice]

Good lord at the missed tackles

[CadaverDawg]

Hey Cadaver, what are you getting at on my rep?

Gave you reputation points. As in, "I agree, good post"

[ShotgunDawg]

Wow, shades of the Ole Miss game last year right there.

[JohnnyQuid]

just lol.

[maroonmania]

We absolutely can NOT play 4 quarters of good football. Terrible tackling on that TD run.

[CadaverDawg]

Good tackling, Defense.**

[PMDawg]

Not sure what the ego is. They aren't making counter points.

I did not enter the convo. Simply awarded a rep point. That's well within my rights. Sorry it offended you and made you lash out.

[CadaverDawg]

We absolutely can NOT play 4 quarters of good football. Terrible tackling on that TD run.

Nope. Can't plat 4 quarters without having multiple WTF moments.

[Op4isabitch]

Gave you reputation points. As in, "I agree, good post"

Oh OK, misinterpreted it.

Thanks!

[Coach007]

If I'm Dan.... I'm pissed! I'm yelling at people.

[Boston]

just lol.
Yep.

[defiantdog]

Some running back coaches teach that it's more dangerous to change hands than it is just to keep it in the inside hand.

Are we sure this is poor coaching?

IDK, but it would be a great thing for someone to ask Mullen on Dawgs talk or something
They should begin the run with the outside hand. Never start the run with the inside hand. You don't have to ask Mullen that.

[HancockCountyDog]

Good tackling, Defense.**

Who the hell is 24 and why does he think we are playing two hand touch?

[Coach007]

I want to see Carter on the OL please.

[Sacrifice]

Man what the hell

[ShotgunDawg]

We are so awesomely coached

[JohnnyQuid]

this is getting embarrassing. outta be ****ing ashamed

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

I know that wasn't a direct result of our corners, but lord I wish we could get a couple of juice db's for next year. 24 was one of the corners who will battling for a spot next year trying to make the tackle inside the 10. wouldn't have brought him down if we were playing two handed touch.

[JohnnyQuid]

Apparently have never seen a screen before

[defiantdog]

Why can't we stop the screen?

[Bothrops]

This is why it's conceivable that we could go 1-2 in the next three.

[Dawgface]

Another game we will come away shaking our head even in victory.

[Bothrops]

When Ritchie Brown isn't on the field our defense goes to total shit.

[defiantdog]

When Ritchie Brown isn't on the field our defense goes to total shit.

No..... It's when we have players in there that should never step on the field.

[Op4isabitch]

I'm calling it now, we lose to Kentucky and likely LaTech. We are terrible, no identity, compounded by shitty play calling = losses in our future.

[Negative Waves]

Gonna go on and call it. It's gonna be 38-35 with a minute left and Troy has a possession to heat us. We cannot finish a game.

[CadaverDawg]

Adjust to the screen, Manny. Damn

[Leroy Jenkins]

I was going to watch the 4th quarter... I think I will go smash my dick with a hammer instead, it will be less painful.

[Tbonewannabe]

We just look soft on offense and defense. Our kicker looks good.

[Coach007]

That's a huge drop off from our subs. Again I would be majorly pissed as Dan.

[Dawgology]

Wtf I stop watching come back and we look like shit. What happened????

[defiantdog]

Chris Jones needs to get back in the game..... He's needed

[Matt3467]

A lot of our defensive problems also stem from the fact we can't keep our offense on the field.

[CadaverDawg]

Everybody in the stadium knew that was a draw when the RB left the backfield, and he still got the first down. SMH

[ShotgunDawg]

Not sure why this team doesn't improve from week to week. There's no improvement

[Dawgface]

Gonna go on and call it. It's gonna be 38-35 with a minute left and Troy has a possession to heat us. We cannot finish a game.

If that happens we lose out.

[CadaverDawg]

A lot of our defensive problems also stem from the fact we can't keep our offense on the field.

Yep

[ShotgunDawg]

Yep

Agree, the offense is easily the problem with our team. This is single handedly the worst coaching job Mullen & Hev have done with the offense since they've been here

It goes beyond play calling & execution. It goes back to talent evaluations. They simply botched it

[msstate7]

257 total offensive yards... There's your telling stat. I don't think we went below 400 all year last season. This offense is garbage...

[defiantdog]

A lot of our defensive problems also stem from the fact we can't keep our offense on the field.
Our offense can't keep themselves on the field

[Bothrops]

A lot of our defensive problems also stem from the fact we can't keep our offense on the field.

^^^

[maroonmania]

Gosh, thought we were never going to get him tackled.

[Sacrifice]

We have no running game. Every game we play will be close.

[drunkernhelldawg]

That was one of our worst quarters against subpar competition since The Maine.

[ShotgunDawg]

I wouldn't let the offense pass here. They haven't earned it.

I'd put Lee back there & run it up the gut 3 times in a row. Passing the ball is nothing but a band-aid that makes you feel better. This team hasn't earned a band aid

[maroonmania]

Totally agree that all the problems with this team stem from a shitastic OL in the run area. Hevesy needs to get off his ass and either coach better OR recruit better or both, but this crap ain't cutting it when we can't even create a hole against a bad Sun Belt team.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Throw the depth chart away. Starting next week every rep should be merit based.

[BrunswickDawg]

All Fitz does is throw touchdowns!

[Tbonewannabe]

257 total offensive yards... There's your telling stat. I don't think we went below 400 all year last season. This offense is garbage...
We look soft on the Oline and the RBs are the worst we have had in a long time. I don't understand how we have had freshmen RB play a lot before but now can't get on the field. It definitely isn't because Shump is too good.

[CadaverDawg]

Donald Gray is a man. One day we'll get to see him play in big games! Cant wait

[ShotgunDawg]

Great play by Gray but a wasted possession.

Nothing but a band aid that makes you feel better.

[Tbonewannabe]

All Donald Gray does is make ****ing plays.

[defiantdog]

Great play by Gray but a wasted possession.

Nothing but a band aid that makes you feel better.
Come on man..... Momentum

[CadaverDawg]

Totally agree that all the problems with this team stem from a shitastic OL in the run area. Hevesy needs to get off his ass and either coach better OR recruit better or both, but this crap ain't cutting it when we can't even create a hole against a bad Sun Belt team.

+1

[CadaverDawg]

Great play by Gray but a wasted possession.

Nothing but a band aid that makes you feel better.

Good grief.

[ShotgunDawg]

Come on man..... Momentum

I'm happy we scored, but I want to see us get better. Perhaps practice is a better place for this, but I just want to see the run game get going. It has to

I want to see us do things on the field that translate to beating Bama & OM. That's all I'm saying

[drunkernhelldawg]

Damned impressive throw and catch.

[SheltonChoked]

I'm not sure it's just a band aid, but we have to keep trying to run.

[Tbonewannabe]

Evans sighting, is there anyone who had a more perfect number than ol 17.

[ShotgunDawg]

Our QBs & receivers are so good, that if we could just have an average running game, our offense would be ridiculous.

We don't need Nebraska circa 1995 running game here. We just need average.

[Leroy Jenkins]

I never thought a MSU team wouldn't be able to run the ball.

[ShotgunDawg]

Shumpert got no better from the 1st to 4th quarter

[Coach007]

This offense need to be sustaining drives. That's the bottom line. That was a great pass and catch. But this offenses has not put together drives

[ShotgunDawg]

This offense need to be sustaining drives. That's the bottom line. That was a great pass and catch. But this offenses has not put together drives

YUP

Hard to put together drives when you can't convert short yardage downs on the ground

[Tbonewannabe]

Is there anyone that thinks Shump should have any carries in SEC games? He looks like he runs in slow motion.

[ShotgunDawg]

Offense bogs down A-GAIN

[DownwardDawg]

Lol. Relf could run circles around Staley.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Our guys look like they just want this to be over, complete indifference.

[JohnnyQuid]

Didn't look like alot of want to by staley on that keeper.

[defiantdog]

Is there anyone that thinks Shump should have any carries in SEC games? He looks like he runs in slow motion.

Williams isn't selling his 4* ranking either

[Bothrops]

Yeah this football team reminds me a little of last year's baseball club.

[drunkernhelldawg]

What a horrible punt. That will lose games.

[Tbonewannabe]

Fitz looks better than Staley. I will say Staley reminds me of Cam running the ball. He falls forward for 2 yards.

[GreenheadDawg]

Lol. Relf could run circles around Staley.

You learned that from 1 series? Damn you're good **

[Matt3467]

Shump wasn't 4* RB he was rated 4* at S

[msstate7]

Williams isn't selling his 4* ranking either

The common theme is no rb can run. As bad as Shump has been this year, he had 10 carries vs OM last year for over 70 yards. Shump is certainly not the answer, but LF would have trouble running behind our oline.

This team is looking more and more like OM '14, but with a lesser defense

[Tbonewannabe]

Lol. Relf could run circles around Staley.

Relf as a freshman had problems completing any pass. Relf as a senior > Staley as a freshman. I think Fitz > Relf as a senior.

[SheltonChoked]

Staley looks more natural passing than fitz, but fitz is the much better runner.

Staley's trouble is he looks worse at his weakness than fitz looks at his.

[Tbonewannabe]

The common theme is no rb can run. As bad as Shump has been this year, he had 10 carries vs OM last year for over 70 yards. Shump is certainly not the answer, but LF would have trouble running behind our oline.

This team is looking more and more like OM '14, but with a lesser defense

This is why half our plays are bubble screens.

[CadaverDawg]

There's been plenty of teams with shitty OL's that can move the ball and sustain drives....but it requires a play caller that knows how to take pressure off of his OL. Mullen is struggling trying to figure out how to get anything going from a play calling standpoint with a poor OL.

Ole Miss beat Bama at Bama with a shitty OL, so it can be done. Mullen has got to be the "offensive guru" everyone claims he is though

[drunkernhelldawg]

The common theme is no rb can run. As bad as Shump has been this year, he had 10 carries vs OM last year for over 70 yards. Shump is certainly not the answer, but LF would have trouble running behind our oline.

This team is looking more and more like OM '14, but with a lesser defense

That's my thinking too. How is everybody so sure Shump can't run when the scheme and the line play is as bad as it is. Williams, Lee, and Dear all look good sometimes. But our problems at running go well beyond the guy with the ball in his hand.

[CadaverDawg]

Our defense should be ashamed of this second half.

[defiantdog]

Troy is beating us in the 2nd half

[drunkernhelldawg]

Great play by Calvin. Gotta keep em out!

[ShotgunDawg]

Lee looks like he can run to me. Dear also

[RougeDawg]

The common theme is no rb can run. As bad as Shump has been this year, he had 10 carries vs OM last year for over 70 yards. Shump is certainly not the answer, but LF would have trouble running behind our oline.

This team is looking more and more like OM '14, but with a lesser defense

Lee has 21 yards on 4 carries. We just aren't getting him enough touches to get in a rhythm.

That was a targeting missed call. He launched himself into a defenseless player. Same thing that A&M guy did last week. Refs are horrible and going to get someone hurt. They need their credentials to be revoked the remainder of the season.

ETA. Lee 44 yards on 5 carries. Should be case closed on who to go with next week and remainder of season.

[JohnnyQuid]

63 yrds this half. **** me

[ShotgunDawg]

I like Jamoral Graham. He has his issues but he plays with swagger & can deal with guys like that

[MSUDawg4Life]

Smokey smoked him.

[ShotgunDawg]

Nice to see us play with pride in a meaningless situation there

[BrunswickDawg]

Damn glad I couldn't put any vcash on us to cover the spread....

[drunkernhelldawg]

This second half has been such a total shitshow. Good thing we're in our easy stretch. We badly need it.

[defiantdog]

Lee looks like he can run to me. Dear also
Exactly..... Lee has it. The other guys seem lost when they touch the ball. We need Lee and Dear to touch the ball more.

[SheltonChoked]

Well. We did some things I wanted to see

Fitz got to play a lot.

Lots of backups on defense got time.

Disappointed in what we saw from the running game
And in the defense in the second half.

[CadaverDawg]

Is our bye next week?

[RougeDawg]

There's been plenty of teams with shitty OL's that can move the ball and sustain drives....but it requires a play caller that knows how to take pressure off of his OL. Mullen is struggling trying to figure out how to get anything going from a play calling standpoint with a poor OL.

Ole Miss beat Bama at Bama with a shitty OL, so it can be done. Mullen has got to be the "offensive guru" everyone claims he is though

This. Very little motion, shifts, or misdirection from dans play calling this season. That's how Bucky keeps the pressure off of his shit OL. Our OL is better than theirs but we don't make the defense think and stay home because we line it up and come right at them. Last year we had WR's in motion all over the place and We used to shift formations. From what I've seen we won't make any changes for the rest of the year.

[MSUDawg4Life]

DLee!

[SheltonChoked]

And d lee needs the ball more.

[Bothrops]

Every remaining team on our schedule is capable of beating us.

[CadaverDawg]

Lee gives one final middle finger to Dan for us

[defiantdog]

And d lee needs the ball more.

Reminds me of when JRob was a sophomore. We begged for him to get the ball more.

[ShotgunDawg]

Lee gives one final middle finger to Dan for us

This is where I wish our media had some stones. Someone needs to ask Dan why Dontavian Lee doesn't get more reps

[ShotgunDawg]

I will say though that who the RB is secondary to the offensive line issues. It's a bad combo

[RougeDawg]

Is our bye next week?

We are off Halloween weekend.

[CadaverDawg]

We are off Halloween weekend.

Thanks

[Tbonewannabe]

DLee reminds me of Boobie. As long as he doesn't dance at the line he will be good.

[RougeDawg]

I will say though that who the RB is secondary to the offensive line issues. It's a bad combo

Not necessarily. The OL opened up some holes early but Shump couldn't find a nut in a can of planters.

Good running backs can sometimes force a hole open themselves, and Lee is the only RB we have that seems to have any ability to do this.

[GreenheadDawg]

I will say though that who the RB is secondary to the offensive line issues. It's a bad combo

Exactly. Our O-line is just awful. Just plain awful in the running game. If we don't figure something out we may lose 3 more games. Hell, maybe 4

[Tbonewannabe]

Not necessarily. The OL opened up some holes early but Shump couldn't find a nut in a can of planters.

Good running backs can sometimes force a hole open themselves, and Lee is the only RB we have that seems to have any ability to do this.

Good RB can see a crease and go. Shump has to have a big hole and it has to stay open longer because he doesn't have great burst.

[drummerdawg]

Sorry if I missed it but where was Dear?

[DownwardDawg]

Relf as a freshman had problems completing any pass. Relf as a senior > Staley as a freshman. I think Fitz > Relf as a senior.

I didn't say anything about passing.

[CadaverDawg]

Shumpert reminds me of one of those Discovery Channel shows where a Zebra is stuck in Quick Sand and trying to climb out. It's almost painful to watch.

[Tbonewannabe]

Sorry if I missed it but where was Dear?

He had the 4th down run that he lost a yard.

[Leroy Jenkins]

Sorry if I missed it but where was Dear?

He played a good bit in 1st half. Then we only got 7 plays in the 3rd, in the 4th we were just holding on.

[DownwardDawg]

You learned that from 1 series? Damn you're good **

I learned it the first game Staley played. You can't see it? He's slooowwwwwwwww! He passes much better from what I've seen so far though.

[ShotgunDawg]

http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/zebra-stuck-mud-12306697.jpg

[RougeDawg]

He had the 4th down run that he lost a yard.

Pulling guard tripped and missed block of DE, one who tackled him for behind. Play was slow to develop though. When Malik got the handoff, the guy was right behind him.

[maroonmania]

Good RB can see a crease and go. Shump has to have a big hole and it has to stay open longer because he doesn't have great burst.

Exactly, if our OL was a good blocking line EVERY RB we have would look OK. Because our OL is as bad as it is we need a RB that can manufacture some yards on his own. Sorry, but Shump can't do that.

[HancockCountyDog]

Our defense should be ashamed of this second half.

Without Fred Ross this would be a damn close game.

Our offense showed no ability to move the chains, it was 2013 level bad. At some point the OL is just a flat out problem. Bama's front seven is going to eat us alive.

[HancockCountyDog]

Sorry if I missed it but where was Dear?

Still learning the system***

[CadaverDawg]

Without Fred Ross this would be a damn close game.

Our offense showed no ability to move the chains, it was 2013 level bad. At some point the OL is just a flat out problem. Bama's front seven is going to eat us alive.

I agree. Dan is going to have to be extremely creative offensively with the playcalling if we are going to find two+ more wins on the schedule, imo.

[ShotgunDawg]

Just listened to Jim Ellis do a 5 minute interview with Mullen & he didn't ask one question about the running game?

I mean, what's the point?

Why do interviews if you aren't going to ask the most obvious questions?

Why does our media refuse to ask the difficult question?

[CadaverDawg]

Just listened to Jim Ellis do a 5 minute interview with Mullen & he didn't ask one question about the running game?

I mean, what's the point?

Why do interviews if you aren't going to ask the most obvious questions?

Why does our media refuse to ask the difficult question?

Same reason Ole Miss's doesn't ask about the investigation

[Liverpooldawg]

I just got back. I haven't read anything and probably won't for a while. Overall we did what we were supposed to do, blow out a bad team. We got a lot of young guys some playing time, esp on defense. That was good. The run game was awful. I'll stick with what I said after LSU. Shumpert ain't the guy, but the main problem is up front. The line does a barely adequate job of pass blocking and just really struggles with run blocking. It is what it is and while we obviously can't stop trying to improve it, for now we dang well better be trying to figure out how to work around it. If that is an air raid offense then so be it.

[Tbonewannabe]

I just got back. I haven't read anything and probably won't for a while. Overall we did what we were supposed to do, blow out a bad team. We got a lot of young guys some playing time, esp on defense. That was good. The run game was awful. I'll stick with what I said after LSU. Shumpert ain't the guy, but the main problem is up front. The line does a barely adequate job of pass blocking and just really struggles with run blocking. It is what it is and while we obviously can't stop trying to improve it, for now we dang well better be trying to figure out how to work around it. If that is an air raid offense then so be it.

I agree, the Oline just plays soft. They can't push anyone off the ball. Shump would look at least serviceable with even a mediocre Oline. If Dak doesn't scramble, we won't break 100 yards rushing in any game left. I guess that is why we are throwing so many WR screens. Our WR are better at run blocking.