Active shooter on campus

[BulldogDX55]

Just got a Maroon Alert. Active shooter in Carpenter Hall. More info if I get it.

[Rayburn8]

Last seen in Lee.

[Rayburn8]

Had a friend in Carpenter at the time. He is okay. Asking for details.

[BulldogDX55]

Last seen in Lee.

My girlfriend works in Lee. ****. Just got a text that they are on lockdown.

[Bama_Dawg]

Stricklin on Periscope sending updates:

https://t.co/ASH35X6ao4

[Bama_Dawg]

Maroon alert sends that the shooter is in custody.

[Bamboo]

My son is watching it from a window, cops with shields all over the drill field going into McCool.

[maroonmania]

Man that is crazy. Anyone injured?

[Dallas_Dawg]

Is anyone hurt? Thank God my sister was at home and not in class.

[It_Could_Happen]

I'm in Mcool right now.

[Rayburn8]

Rumor is there may be second shooter. School still in lockdown.

[Op4isabitch]

Reporting NO INJURiES!

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I'm in Mcool right now.

Stay safe, bro!

[Bama_Dawg]

Man that is crazy. Anyone injured?

MSU Chief Communications Officer Sid Salter: No injuries at this time.

[BulldogDX55]

Shooter in custody, no injuries.

[BulldogDX55]

My girlfriend saw him get taken into custody. Described him as short and racially ambiguous.

[maroonmania]

Man what is going on at MSU? First the ISIS pair, now on-campus shooters. Not good.

[Liverpooldawg]

My son was in Allen. They were evacuated to the South Farm.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Man what is going on at MSU? First the ISIS pair, now on-campus shooters. Not good.

Any chance they're linked?

[Rayburn8]

God I hope the official report is right. Hearing a lot of things right now from friends in carpenter.

[Saltydog]

nt

[Charlie_Sheen420]

MSU Maroon Alert ‏@maroonalert 5m5 minutes ago

No injuries reported at this time. They is no report at this time of any shots that have been fired.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Reports now that he never fired a shot. Anyone on campus hear gun fire or see a gun?

[maroonmania]

Well he's not an "active shooter" if no shots have been fired.

[Rayburn8]

He fired shots. Have friend who heard it.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

People on twitter saying possible second and third person involved as well?

[mparkerfd20]

The way the 'official' reports are going you'd even question if the guy had a gun. They are saying no shot's fired and just 'threats'.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Well he's not an "active shooter" if no shots have been fired.

Who cares? I'd rather them overreact than sit on their hands.

[Political Hack]

rumors swirling that there could still be a 2nd and 3rd person involved. stay safe and pray for those near the incident. No reported injuries or deaths yet. Let's hope it stays that way.

[maroonmania]

rumors swirling that there could still be a 2nd and 3rd person involved. stay safe and pray for those near the incident. No reported injuries or deaths yet. Let's hope it stays that way.

If that's the case I'm starting to think the ISIS deal may actually be connected to this somehow.

[DudyDawg]

I doubt the no injuries part. He did fire shots. Buddy of mine had to run into a room and barricade it while hearing them. Glad I don't have class right now

[lefty96]

Maroon alert says all is clear, back to normal schedule @ 2

[DudyDawg]

Really not sure why classes are resuming....

[lefty96]

Photo of Suspect:

https://twitter.com/reflectoronline/status/636929680399028224/photo/1

[Rayburn8]

Delete till I can get conformation.

[LC Dawg]

Who cares? I'd rather them overreact than sit on their hands.

I agree.

[Rayburn8]

Okay here is the rumor I just hears the rumor. Everyone started coming out of the building. More shots heard then. This is not over.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Hearing rumors that people are running and screaming again...anyone heard anything new?

[Charlie_Sheen420]

From what I heard it was an idiot running away from the union screaming once the lockdown was lifted causing another mass panic, there was no other shots, just an idiot. They should take that idiot in custody and kick him out, stuff like that isn't funny.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Robby Donoho ‏@RobbyDonoho 3m3 minutes ago

Some clown started screaming and running away from the MSU Student Union and it started a mass panic. Y'all, don't be stupid. Not funny.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

From what I heard it was an idiot running away from the union screaming once the lockdown was lifted causing another mass panic, there was no other shots, just an idiot. They should take that idiot in custody and kick him out, stuff like that isn't funny.

That SOB needs the soap in a sock treatment like in Full Metal Jacket from the entire student population.

[lefty96]

MSU officials and WCBI reporting that news of additional danger is NOT TRUE. All clear still in place on campus.

[Political Hack]

The university rescinded the all clear. Until further notice, go by the school's latest info.

Shots were fired and heard. Multiple people have confirmed now.

[BulldogDX55]

So yeah, this seems to be the story:

1. Dude was suicidal and threatened to kill himself
2. Someone tried to stop him
3. He threatened to kill guy who tried to stop him
4. Maroon alert issued
5. Dude leaves carpenter, passes by lee, goes to mccool
6. Dude gets arrested
7. Asshole starts running and screaming near union for kicks
8. mass exodus of campus

Could have been so much worse.

[Bamboo]

Okay here is the rumor I just hears the rumor. Everyone started coming out of the building. More shots heard then. This is not over.

About 5 minutes ago they let my son out of his class and as soon as he hit the drill field, the cops swarmed the kids and told them all to run. My son heard shots 100%. Haven't heard anything from him since the phone call where he was being directed to Allen. I'm worried

[AROB44]

Should have just let the idiot kill himself....

[MadDawg]

WCBI News ‏@WCBINEWS ? 5m5 minutes ago
MSU officials stress social media reports of additional danger NOT TRUE despite some statewide media reports All clear status on campus

[BeardoMSU]

The university rescinded the all clear. Until further notice, go by the school's latest info.

Shots were fired and heard. Multiple people have confirmed now.

Not according to the maroon alerts.

[MadDawg]

My daughter is on campus and has not heard a single shot. Granted she was not close to Capenter or Lee Hall.

[MadDawg]

Scott Stricklin ‏@stricklinMSU ? 2m2 minutes ago
That was an unexpected level of excitement. Now I’m going to enjoy this beautiful campus with a lunch-time run.

[AFDawg]

The university rescinded the all clear. Until further notice, go by the school's latest info.

Shots were fired and heard. Multiple people have confirmed now.

Rescinded the all clear? Maroon Alert is currently insisting that there is no additional danger.

[ETDawg]

So yeah, this seems to be the story:

1. Dude was suicidal and threatened to kill himself
2. Someone tried to stop him
3. He threatened to kill guy who tried to stop him
4. Maroon alert issued
5. Dude leaves carpenter, passes by lee, goes to mccool
6. Dude gets arrested
7. Asshole starts running and screaming near union for kicks
8. mass exodus of campus

Could have been so much worse.

just spoke to son. He said that he was talking to cop. cop said suicide hot line was called, etc, etc.
Said he saw gunman but what many thought were shots may have actually been windows breaking

[BulldogDX55]

just spoke to son. He said that he was talking to cop. cop said suicide hot line was called, etc, etc.
Said he saw gunman but what many thoughts were shots may have been windows breaking

What I shared is what my girlfriend, who is holed up in Lee Hall, was told by the cops.

[RocketCityDawg]

Not according to the maroon alerts.

My son heard them too.

[War Machine Dawg]

Photo of Suspect:

https://twitter.com/reflectoronline/status/636929680399028224/photo/1

Looks Asian or Middle Eastern. Hard to tell.

[Bama_Dawg]

Had to unfollow @BulldogRecruiting. So much unverified information throughout it all.

[BulldogDX55]

Had to unfollow @BulldogRecruiting. So much unverified information throughout it all.

Yeah. He was reporting deaths. I scolded whoever the hell runs that account.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Had to unfollow @BulldogRecruiting. So much unverified information throughout it all.

Him and another tweeter were posting so much bs, saying people were dead etc.....

[starkvegasdawg]

If someone is suicidal why the blue hell would you want to go to the middle of campus to blow your head off? Glad it's over. But if that guy was depressed before I can't imagine his frame of mind after they get through giving him the mother of all cavity searches. The old children's song Deep and Wide comes to mind. Maybe he should read this real quick.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRC2U6JO4B7xhgI-N_zBqi2gCD5V3aSXZ2Qy0PRc6hwJMw4LpnxYg

[Bamboo]

Okay here is the rumor I just hears the rumor. Everyone started coming out of the building. More shots heard then. This is not over.

About 5 minutes ago they let my son out of his class and as soon as he hit the drill field, the cops swarmed the kids and told them all to run. My son heard shots 100%. Haven't heard anything from him since the phone call where he was being directed to Allen. I'm worried.

Update: He said it did not sound like windows breaking, he said it sounded like gunshots. He is fine though and said its just crazy on campus.

[dawgs]

If someone is suicidal why the blue hell would you want to go to the middle of campus to blow your head off? Glad it's over. But if that guy was depressed before I can't imagine his frame of mind after they get through giving him the mother of all cavity searches. The old children's song Deep and Wide comes to mind. Maybe he should read this real quick.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRC2U6JO4B7xhgI-N_zBqi2gCD5V3aSXZ2Qy0PRc6hwJMw4LpnxYg

I'm sure someone with more of a psychology background can better explain his mindset, but I'm sure it was more of a call for help/attention and he never really wanted to commit suicide. (Assuming the suicide aspect is true)

[BeardoMSU]

About 5 minutes ago they let my son out of his class and as soon as he hit the drill field, the cops swarmed the kids and told them all to run. My son heard shots 100%. Haven't heard anything from him since the phone call where he was being directed to Allen. I'm worried.

Update: He said it did not sound like windows breaking, he said it sounded like gunshots. He is fine though and said its just crazy on campus.

Dude. I'm on the drill now. It's all clear.

[Rayburn8]

Well the security at the LSU game is going to be higher than ever before.

[Charlie_Sheen420]

Well the good news in all of this is no one was hurt, and the response was swift and effective while keeping everyone alert and aware of the situation. Hopefully this will deter anyone else from trying this crap based on this response, and if it happens again next time the response will be even better because they can learn from this situation which I believe was handled very well. Major props to MSU Police and Security and Starkville Police.

[It_Could_Happen]

High Praise to all the authorities and the maroon alert system. I was in McCool and the evacuation procedures could not have been run any better. Also praise to all the teachers and professors. They really put the students safety first today. There were teachers shoving students inside offices and locking doors while they were still in the hallway.

[Homedawg]

The guy they had cuffed didn't have a weapon. He made threats but that's it. Per local enforcement.

[BulldogDX55]

The guy they had cuffed didn't have a weapon. He made threats but that's it. Per local enforcement.

So there wasn't even a gun? I really wonder how this escalated so fast.

[Homedawg]

So there wasn't even a gun? I really wonder how this escalated so fast.

That's what I've been told.

[Maroonthirteen]

So there wasn't even a gun? I really wonder how this escalated so fast.

Because people exaggerate... Lie. Im 180 miles from there and had a parent of a MsU student tell me, their kid said, 3-4 dead from shooting on campus. I'm so glad for this forum to learn the truth.

Edit to clarify: MSU did a good job in issuing the maroon alert. Better to be safe. I was referring to kids causing panic at SU and calling home etc.

[BeardoMSU]

And all the people who "100% heard gunshots", Apparently don't know what gunshot sound like. Geez.

[DancingRabbit]

So there wasn't even a gun? I really wonder how this escalated so fast.

Double-edged sword of social media.

Some chick was tweeting that the "2nd shooter" was firing down on the drill field. Some kids can be very excitable. Some may embellish things for dramatic effect.

[starkvegasdawg]

Suspect has been ID'd as Fhu-Qui Cong Nguyen.

[CadaverDawg]

Good grief...No shots fired, no gun, no injuries...yet on Twitter people were claiming "shots fired", "multiple shooters", "deaths!", "mass chaos", etc. People live for drama and attention these days.

That being said, It sounds like authorities were on point, and I'd rather them be overly cautious than not cautious enough. People need to quit worrying about being the first to report shit, and worry more about the accuracy of what they're reporting. It's easy to see how the "new age sports media" is so terrible...it's basically a group of people just like the ones saying "deaths", etc this morning. Smh

[DancingRabbit]

Reflector twitter:

UPDATE: Has been confirmed no gun was present. Suspect confirmed to be a freshman from Madison, Mississippi.

[starkvegasdawg]

Reflector twitter:

UPDATE: Has been confirmed no gun was present. Suspect confirmed to be a freshman from Madison, Mississippi.

That'll be a fun phone call home.

[RocketCityDawg]

And all the people who "100% heard gunshots", Apparently don't know what gunshot sound like. Geez.

You might be mistaken too if dozens of people were running around screaming and you heard a loud bang. Don't be a ****

[mstatefan91]

It escalated so quickly because a student threatened harm to himself and others. That will never be taken lightly on a college campus. Guys, this isn't something that students deal with on a daily basis, you know.

Think about it. You've been barricaded in a classroom on campus for 45 minutes with reports of active shooter and other people tweeting about a possibility of a second shooter because campus PD is doing a sweep. So you finally get told "all clear." You go outside and the first thing you hear is people screaming. Yeah, you're gonna run and possibly, your mind is going to hear things that aren't there because of terror.

Campus PD did a marvelous job, and overall, students handled themselves appropriately.

[Bully13]

You might be mistaken too if dozens of people were running around screaming and you heard a loud bang. Don't be a ****

Douches are ones who don't know what gunshots sound like but scare the shit out of 10000 people claiming they do.

[mstatefan91]

Douches are ones who don't know what gunshots sound like but scare the shit out of 10000 people claiming they do.

Quit being an ass hat. Seriously.

[DancingRabbit]

There's a lot of tweets just got deleted. I'm not going to out anyone, but some girl tweeted "don't come to campus there are lots of shooters"

Then tweeted later, "first shooter in custody, 2nd shooter firing down on drill field"

Those a several others I read have been deleted.

[BeardoMSU]

There's a lot of tweets just got deleted. I'm not going to out anyone, but some girl tweeted "don't come to campus there are lots of shooters"

Then tweeted later, "first shooter in custody, 2nd shooter firing down on drill field"

Those a several others I read have been deleted.

Yeah, that shit is unacceptable. The other guy, bulldogrecruiting something, was sending out a bunch of bs, too. Spreading stuff like that, creating hysteria and panic, is what could have really got someone hurt; luckily no one was trampled or something.

[BeardoMSU]

You might be mistaken too if dozens of people were running around screaming and you heard a loud bang. Don't be a ****

Not trying to be, Rocket. I wasn't just singling you out earlier, either. There have been lots of people talking about being "sure" they heard gun shots, even talking about there still being danger 30 minutes after the university gave the all clear.

[MafiaDawg]

Lots of media attention whores out there. And a lot of blind eye witnesses. Hope this won't be a boy who cried wolf situation. Man some people are stupid (yes including the suspect.) Can't blame the university for reacting how they did but shit this escalated quickly. The guy is still being referred to as a "shooter" by same outlets confirming he had no gun.

[BeardoMSU]

Lots of media attention whores out there. And a lot of blind eye witnesses. Hope this won't be a boy who cried wolf situation. Man some people are stupid (yes including the suspect.) Can't blame the university for reacting how they did but shit this escalated quickly. The guy is still being referred to as a "shooter" by same outlets confirming he had no gun.

Word. I don't have a problem with how the University handled this. In a situation like this, its best to assume the worst. It was the extra "info" that was swirling that made the situation worse.

[RocketCityDawg]

Not trying to be, Rocket. I wasn't just singling you out earlier, either. There have been lots of people talking about being "sure" they heard gun shots, even talking about there still being danger 30 minutes after the university gave the all clear.

Thanks for that. Sorry I overreacted. There was obviously some kind of loud bang that happened just after they let the students out of the buildings. I completely understand them thinking it was gunshots.
Hell, I was on edge here just knowing my son was on a locked down campus. I can't imagine being in the middle of it.

[mstatefan91]

Don't get me wrong. The people tweeting out a bunch of BS need to be held accountable for their actions but don't blame the poor students who were trapped on campus trying to figure out if they were safe or not.

I would wager that none of you on here have ever been in a situation like this. It was pretty tense

[Rayburn8]

Don't get me wrong. The people tweeting out a bunch of BS need to be held accountable for their actions but don't blame the poor students who were trapped on campus trying to figure out if they were safe or not.

I would wager that none of you on here have ever been in a situation like this. It was pretty tense

You could say that.

[BeardoMSU]

I'm just glad no one was hurt.

Truth be told, this event will actually help MSU in the future, being that it gave our administration, police force, professors, etc. almost a "practice run-through" of what to do in the case of a shooter, without there actually being one, but still with the sense of urgency of a real threat. God forbid the real thing ever happen on our campus, but I feel a lot better about our preparedness after today.

[BankerDog]

I was in McCool when this happened. It was was the craziest thing that has ever happened to me. We were in the middle of a quiz and our teacher pulled her phone out to tell us what was going on. Luckily we had a Vet and he was getting updates as well. We were getting the text in the classroom of it could be multiple shooters and someone claimed to hear on the scanner that two people had died; just like some of those guys were tweeting out. I believe he was a student too so he might've just been panicking. I do know that as we were about to leave McCool after the cops came in, they put us in a second lockdown. We saw people running and yelling "He's in here. He's in here." We then heard the police about 10 minutes later saying put your hands up. Hands up. Our Vet walked out and explained we had people in our classroom. We had to walkout with our hands up and AKs waved at us. As we sat there, I just believed this was ISIS. I'm just glad God was with us.

[LC Dawg]

I am very pleased with the response of the university. Social media can be helpful during crisis situations but in this case it caused a lot of extra stress on students and us parents at home who were trying to figure out what was happening.
After the all clear I was on the phone with my daughter trying to calm her down and she is seeing all these reports of more shooters and shots being fired on campus at that moment. It is reckless for someone to report something that is unconfirmed but that is the world we live in and so many people take everything as fact. I was very skeptical of the reports of more shooters and more shooting because of the sources but my daughter was not skeptical at all because of the sources.

[Bama_Dawg]

I was in McCool when this happened. It was was the craziest thing that has ever happened to me. We were in the middle of a quiz and our teacher pulled her phone out to tell us what was going on. Luckily we had a Vet and he was getting updates as well. We were getting the text in the classroom of it could be multiple shooters and someone claimed to hear on the scanner that two people had died; just like some of those guys were tweeting out. I believe he was a student too so he might've just been panicking. I do know that as we were about to leave McCool after the cops came in, they put us in a second lockdown. We saw people running and yelling "He's in here. He's in here." We then heard the police about 10 minutes later saying put your hands up. Hands up. Our Vet walked out and explained we had people in our classroom. We had to walkout with our hands up and AKs waved at us. As we sat there, I just believed this was ISIS. I'm just glad God was with us.

This is Standard Operating Procedure in an active shooter situation. Its for the law enforcement's protection just as much as yours. We do drills all the time on this and anytime you exit the building you have both hands above your head with your palms to the authorities.

[BeardoMSU]

I am very pleased with the response of the university. Social media can be helpful during crisis situations but in this case it caused a lot of extra stress on students and us parents at home who were trying to figure out what was happening.
After the all clear I was on the phone with my daughter trying to calm her down and she is seeing all these reports of more shooters and shots being fired on campus at that moment. It is reckless for someone to report something that is unconfirmed but that is the world we live in and so many people take everything as fact. I was very skeptical of the reports of more shooters and more shooting because of the sources but my daughter was not skeptical at all because of the sources.

Yes. Best word to describe it.

[Political Hack]

Rescinded the all clear? Maroon Alert is currently insisting that there is no additional danger.

bad info from campus. cops weren't letting kids on immediately after the all clear so they thought it was still on lock down.

also hearing conflicting reports on whether shots have been fired, but been in meetings an unable to ask around.

[Political Hack]

what reports initially said "active shooter"??? that's dangerous reporting and could have initiated the panic.

[MadDawg]

And all the people who "100% heard gunshots", Apparently don't know what gunshot sound like. Geez.

I can think of multiple other ways to describe them.

[PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE]

there's no utility in being skeptical of potentially life-threatening information. When you receive that information, you take it as a real threat, and proceed accordingly. The information that was being put out there was ill-informed, but anyone receiving that information should be expected to make the most conservative, life-preserving decisions possible. When the all clear was given & I walked outside to see everyone in my area running frantically, I had no time to consider the source, just what I action I would take. Which was to run. When there were reports of 2nd & 3rd shooters in the adjacent buildings, I didn't know if they were true but I damn sure wasn't going back outside to find out.

[TUSK]

I was in McCool when this happened. It was was the craziest thing that has ever happened to me. We were in the middle of a quiz and our teacher pulled her phone out to tell us what was going on. Luckily we had a Vet and he was getting updates as well. We were getting the text in the classroom of it could be multiple shooters and someone claimed to hear on the scanner that two people had died; just like some of those guys were tweeting out. I believe he was a student too so he might've just been panicking. I do know that as we were about to leave McCool after the cops came in, they put us in a second lockdown. We saw people running and yelling "He's in here. He's in here." We then heard the police about 10 minutes later saying put your hands up. Hands up. Our Vet walked out and explained we had people in our classroom. We had to walkout with our hands up and AKs waved at us. As we sat there, I just believed this was ISIS. I'm just glad God was with us.

Hey, Banker, it may be a typo, but did you mean "AR" where you typed "AK"?

very happy none of you cats got hurt!

[mstatefan91]

what reports initially said "active shooter"??? that's dangerous reporting and could have initiated the panic.

Mississippi State sent out a Maroon alert saying "active shooter reported at Carpenter Hall. Seek Safety immediately." And then "Active shooter last seen in vicinity of Lee hall. Seek safety immediately."

At that point, I was just waiting to hear the death/injury toll. I was barricaded in a lab on campus with fellow grad students. Idk how to describe that feeling, but I hope to never feel it again.

[Rayburn8]

I'm LoLing at people scolding reports and what students were saying when they were nowhere near in danger. The thing that started the panic was the Maroon Alert. The use of "Active Shooter" should not of been used and cause an extreme panic.

[RocketCityDawg]

I can think of multiple other ways to describe them.

What? Scared students who are in a situation that neither you or anyone else here could imagine unless you've been there before?

[scottycameron]

This is the kind of ever reaction you get when all you girls get on the twitter all at once.

Turned out to be nothing and nobody was ever in danger. Now if we can just get THAT word out to the world. Start tweetin, girls.

[MadDawg]

What? Scared students who are in a situation that neither you or anyone else here could imagine unless you've been there before?

I'm going to be nice, Rocket. When you have one of your children on campus and people stating that there have been "shots fired" or "people shot" or "more than one shooter" and then claim it is 100% verified when in fact there have been NO SHOTS fired at all, it kind of PISSES YOU OFF. I've calmed down now. And I also realize in the chaos of what was going on, things can get all mixed up and inaccurate information is bound to come out. But unless you mother ****ing know for mother ****ing sure there have been mother ****ing bullets shot on campus, I think it would be wise to say something like "this is what I'm hearing, but I can't confirm it". That would be a nice mother ****ing touch.

[It_Could_Happen]

For all of jackasses who are questioning the university's use of the term "active shooter," what better phrase could they have used? The University could not have handled this situation any better. If you were not a student you have no idea how tense and on edge that situation was, so don't even comment on it. I felt as safe as I possibly could have in that situation because of the faculty of McCool Hall and local law enforcement. The University did an excellent job and should not be criticized in any way. We are blessed that this was not worse than it actually was.

[DudyDawg]

I understand people mad at people for "looking for attention" and spreading lies. But when your phone buzzes and says active shooter in a building you're in or next to, it's easy to confuse a fallen desk or slammed door as a shot. Paranoia is powerful. Don't jump on people for being scared. Reality is hundreds of students had to barricade rooms and run to leave the building while they thought it was for their own lives. The only animosity should be directed at this kid

[BrunswickDawg]

For all of jackasses who are questioning the university's use of the term "active shooter," what better phrase could they have used? The University could not have handled this situation any better. If you were not a student you have no idea how tense and on edge that situation was, so don't even comment on it. I felt as safe as I possibly could have in that situation because of the faculty of McCool Hall and local law enforcement. The University did an excellent job and should not be criticized in any way. We are blessed that this was not worse than it actually was.
"Potential Threat involving a weapon" or "Individual with a weapon" are two terms - we had an incident at our high school last spring where a guy wandered through campus and campus police detained him and found a gun on him. The school went on lock down, and they alerted parents via their alert robo-call system that "the school was on lock down due to a "potential threat involving a weapon".

[Rayburn8]

I'm going to be nice, Rocket. When you have one of your children on campus and people stating that there have been "shots fired" or "people shot" or "more than one shooter" and then claim it is 100% verified when in fact there have been NO SHOTS fired at all, it kind of PISSES YOU OFF. I've calmed down now. And I also realize in the chaos of what was going on, things can get all mixed up and inaccurate information is bound to come out. But unless you mother ****ing know for mother ****ing sure there have been mother ****ing bullets shot on campus, I think it would be wise to say something like "this is what I'm hearing, but I can't confirm it". That would be a nice mother ****ing touch.

Imagine what's it like to be a student on campus. Kinda bugs me you are doging on what we all thought was a life or death situation. At the end of the day students were telling other students what they thought was going on the best way they could. It was a tense and scary situation and a bunch of 18-22 year reacted the only way they could think of.

I do applaud the university for everything they did in handling this situation. I still feel "Active Shooter" was not the right term but it did what it was intended to. Kept people safe. I'm done with this issue today, have a wonderful afternoon everyone.

[It_Could_Happen]

"Potential Threat involving a weapon" or "Individual with a weapon" are two terms - we had an incident at our high school last spring where a guy wandered through campus and campus police detained him and found a gun on him. The school went on lock down, and they alerted parents via their alert robo-call system that "the school was on lock down due to a "potential threat involving a weapon".

Well why don't you sign up to handle things like this then since you are so cool calm and collected.

[DancingRabbit]

For all of jackasses who are questioning the university's use of the term "active shooter," what better phrase could they have used? The University could not have handled this situation any better. If you were not a student you have no idea how tense and on edge that situation was, so don't even comment on it. I felt as safe as I possibly could have in that situation because of the faculty of McCool Hall and local law enforcement. The University did an excellent job and should not be criticized in any way. We are blessed that this was not worse than it actually was.

Maybe "possible shooter" or "potential threat". Maybe "active shooter" is some standard verbiage for any potential threat, but since there was no gun and no shots fired, someone mis-reported and Maroon Alert went with it.

"Active shooter" makes you think there's been confirmed multiple shots. I don't know what the protocol is for an official alert to be issued. Was the initial info passed along by a student, prof or MSU PD? Other than some incorrect info being passed along early, it seems like the university and MSU PD handled it very well. Obviously you want to err on the side of caution.

I'm sure they will review how everything went down and act accordingly.

[DudyDawg]

I'm going to be nice, Rocket. When you have one of your children on campus and people stating that there have been "shots fired" or "people shot" or "more than one shooter" and then claim it is 100% verified when in fact there have been NO SHOTS fired at all, it kind of PISSES YOU OFF. I've calmed down now. And I also realize in the chaos of what was going on, things can get all mixed up and inaccurate information is bound to come out. But unless you mother ****ing know for mother ****ing sure there have been mother ****ing bullets shot on campus, I think it would be wise to say something like "this is what I'm hearing, but I can't confirm it". That would be a nice mother ****ing touch.

What. A. Bad ass.


Those peiple thinking they were in a Virginia tech situation should've shown more tact with their tweets.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

I think everybody should just be happy that everyone is safe and there was no violence. The university will examine the procedures from today and will make adjustments if there is another future incident, God forbid. I'm not trying to make light of the situation, but I bet that Thursday night beer/bourbon will taste extra sweet to the students and staff.

[Really Clark?]

"Potential Threat involving a weapon" or "Individual with a weapon" are two terms - we had an incident at our high school last spring where a guy wandered through campus and campus police detained him and found a gun on him. The school went on lock down, and they alerted parents via their alert robo-call system that "the school was on lock down due to a "potential threat involving a weapon".

I haven't heard how it was first reported to authorities so the issue may be how it was reported, limited info, etc or it may be the protocol with what the authorities were being told. Too little info right now to say one way or other if the terminology was inappropriate. I had rather authorities mobilize for an active shooter and it be that he didn't have a gun than thinking the other way.

And I agree until you have been in these type of situations and depending on your age, your reaction will be different. Going through some minor incidents like this still doesn't prepare you fully for a major incident. That is a whole different level comparing what is imagined and rumors, etc vs seeing and hearing and feeling a live situation.

[RocketCityDawg]

I'm going to be nice, Rocket. When you have one of your children on campus and people stating that there have been "shots fired" or "people shot" or "more than one shooter" and then claim it is 100% verified when in fact there have been NO SHOTS fired at all, it kind of PISSES YOU OFF. I've calmed down now. And I also realize in the chaos of what was going on, things can get all mixed up and inaccurate information is bound to come out. But unless you mother ****ing know for mother ****ing sure there have been mother ****ing bullets shot on campus, I think it would be wise to say something like "this is what I'm hearing, but I can't confirm it". That would be a nice mother ****ing touch.

If you are talking about the media echoing unconfirmed reports, I kind of agree. If you're talking about scared kids, you're freaking stupid.
My kid was there today. I talked to him on the phone during the lock down.
I would rather them err on the side of caution. I don't want this: "We heard some loud bangs and screams. It sounded like gunfire, but I'm not 100% mother ****ing sure, so let's send all the kids out to the drill field until we know for 100% mother ****ing sure."

[RocketCityDawg]

What. A. Bad ass.


Those peiple thinking they were in a Virginia tech situation should've shown more tact with their tweets.

This ^^^^
I didn't realize we had so many Army Rangers on this board.

[MadDawg]

If you are talking about the media echoing unconfirmed reports, I kind of agree. If you're talking about scared kids, you're freaking stupid.
My kid was there today. I talked to him on the phone during the lock down.
I would rather them err on the side of caution. I don't want this: "We heard some loud bangs and screams. It sounded like gunfire, but I'm not 100% mother ****ing sure, so let's send all the kids out to the drill field until we know for 100% mother ****ing sure."

Ok, I'm wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting "100% verified" rumors of dead students and active gunfire when in fact there was never a single shot fired. At. All. My getting pissed of was a total overreaction. I should have just been glad there were people that cared enough to post things that made some of us wonder if it was our child lying in a pool of blood on the drill field.

And since when do students and parents posting rumors on social media make the call on when to send kids out to the drill field? Because I don't think I ever heard one official source that claimed there were "100% verified" shots fired on campus.

[MadDawg]

This ^^^^
I didn't realize we had so many Army Rangers on this board.

I didn't realize we had so many Brian Williams either.

[godlluB]

what reports initially said "active shooter"??? that's dangerous reporting and could have initiated the panic.

Just the official Maroon Alert Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/maroonalert/status/636921135104454656

[BrunswickDawg]

I haven't heard how it was first reported to authorities so the issue may be how it was reported, limited info, etc or it may be the protocol with what the authorities were being told. Too little info right now to say one way or other if the terminology was inappropriate. I had rather authorities mobilize for an active shooter and it be that he didn't have a gun than thinking the other way.

And I agree until you have been in these type of situations and depending on your age, your reaction will be different. Going through some minor incidents like this still doesn't prepare you fully for a major incident. That is a whole different level comparing what is imagined and rumors, etc vs seeing and hearing and feeling a live situation.

I don't disagree - I was was just citing a personal example of how weapons situation on a campus was dealt with from an information standpoint. I don't think MSU did anything wrong

[godlluB]

For all of jackasses who are questioning the university's use of the term "active shooter," what better phrase could they have used? The University could not have handled this situation any better. If you were not a student you have no idea how tense and on edge that situation was, so don't even comment on it. I felt as safe as I possibly could have in that situation because of the faculty of McCool Hall and local law enforcement. The University did an excellent job and should not be criticized in any way. We are blessed that this was not worse than it actually was.

"Suspected gunman", or even "gunman". "Active shooter" implies that shots have been fired. It was unnecessarily inflammatory, especially coming from the official source.

[scottycameron]

"Suspected gunman", or even "gunman". "Active shooter" implies that shots have been fired. It was unnecessarily inflammatory, especially coming from the official source.

Dude, it's twitter.

[Political Hack]

Just the official Maroon Alert Twitter feed.

https://twitter.com/maroonalert/status/636921135104454656

If anyone wants to point fingers, this is where it started. That's a problem. This is why it's illegal to yell "Fire" in a movie theatre. There is a very specific science about alerts and warnings and how to distribute them to the public at large, and creating panic by using terms like "active shooter" is an example as to why there is so much thought and effort put into that science.

The University needs to address that situation and assure everyone it will be rectified. The people saying they handled it well are out of line IMO. The on-campus emergency personnel apparently handled it well. They locked down campus and organized a response quickly. The public alerts and warnings though leaves a lot to be desired.

[DudyDawg]

Ok, I'm wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting "100% verified" rumors of dead students and active gunfire when in fact there was never a single shot fired. At. All. My getting pissed of was a total overreaction. I should have just been glad there were people that cared enough to post things that made some of us wonder if it was our child lying in a pool of blood on the drill field.

And since when do students and parents posting rumors on social media make the call on when to send kids out to the drill field? Because I don't think I ever heard one official source that claimed there were "100% verified" shots fired on campus.
Obviously you don't get maroon alerts, or you would know better than to say you haven't heard "one official source" that said shots fired. I got a text on my way to class in McCool that said there was QUOTE an active shooter END QUOTE. You're anger is massively misdirected

[Political Hack]

Dude, it's twitter.

it's "Mississippi State University's official feed for emergency and advisory information."

[godlluB]

Dude, it's twitter.

It was the official university emergency news outlet. I don't really care what students were posting. The OFFICIAL MSU emergency notification outlet said "active shooter" when it was nothing of the sort. I'm just saying that they should handle this better in the future.

[DudyDawg]

I didn't realize we had so many Brian Williams either.

But Brian Williams wasnt there...

[BankerDog]

Hey, Banker, it may be a typo, but did you mean "AR" where you typed "AK"?



very happy none of you cats got hurt!

Yes, Tusk. My bad. Still shaken up. You don't know what to believe or not. You just find your roommates, closest friends, and girlfriend on a day like today and just give them a hug. Situation could've been a lot worse than what it was. You just never know what to do except call your parents and tell them you love them. A lot of anger out there, but from inside we got all types of text and information. You don't know what to do when you hear multiple shooters or two people dead, except pray to God.

[Really Clark?]

I don't disagree - I was was just citing a personal example of how weapons situation on a campus was dealt with from an information standpoint. I don't think MSU did anything wrong

Gotcha. And that is the biggest positive, outside of no injuries, was the response and how the administration handled the situation.

[DudyDawg]

Gotcha. And that is the biggest positive, outside of no injuries, was the response and how the administration handled the situation.

Administration outside of strick

[MadDawg]

Obviously you don't get maroon alerts, or you would know better than to say you haven't heard "one official source" that said shots fired. I got a text on my way to class in McCool that said there was QUOTE an active shooter END QUOTE. You're anger is massively misdirected

My anger was directed at those that posted "verified" information that was 100% incorrect. I didn't really have that big of an issue with the "active shooter" from the official alert. To me that was the "err on the side of caution" that makes sense. But maybe I should have been mad about that too.

To me a very stressful situation was made even more stressful due to bad information floating around touted as undeniably true. Thank God in the end it WAS just a bunch of misinformation and nobody was hurt.

I really think the events of yesterday made this even more traumatic.

Rocket, I'm sorry for going off on your post. I didn't really intend to direct it at you. You certainly weren't the only one who were told something wrong and relayed it. I'm sure I lost a few Facebook friends over this.

And I'm sorry for channeling Capt. Wild Bill (no, not an Army Ranger) in my rant.

[Really Clark?]

Administration outside of strick

He was ok until that one tweet which he apologized for quickly. It was inappropriate and too soon but you can see it was him trying to calm fears but it was the wrong time and type of message.

[DudyDawg]

My anger was directed at those that posted "verified" information that was 100% incorrect. I didn't really have that big of an issue with the "active shooter" from the official alert. To me that was the "err on the side of caution" that makes sense. But maybe I should have been mad about that too.

To me a very stressful situation was made even more stressful due to bad information floating around touted as undeniably true. Thank God in the end it WAS just a bunch of misinformation and nobody was hurt.

I really think the events of yesterday made this even more traumatic.

Rocket, I'm sorry for going off on your post. I didn't really intend to direct it at you. You certainly weren't the only one who were told something wrong and relayed it. I'm sure I lost a few Facebook friends over this.

And I'm sorry for channeling Capt. Wild Bill (no, not an Army Ranger) in my rant.

Yes, a lot of the info was borne of fear and paranoia. But no need to complain about it. If you were in class and had the ability to post immediately what was going on, and your class was barricaded shut and you hear police screaming "hands up" in the hall, you wouldn't wait for factual confirmation before saying stuff. Yes, people freaked out and said dumb shit. But no point being mad about them. Be mad about the ***** ass kid trying to get attention.

As far as the maroon alert, they did the right thing. Let peiple know what's going on and do it in a way that you can control what they do. That's what they did, and I have yet to see a report that pandemonium struck and kids did stupid stuff (in real life, not tweeting), so I guess it all worked out. I only brought that up bc you said there there wasn't a verified source.

[DudyDawg]

He was ok until that one tweet which he apologized for quickly. It was inappropriate and too soon but you can see it was him trying to calm fears but it was the wrong time and type of message.

Yeah, I have no problem with what he intended. But he's arguably the second most recognizable face to students behind mullen. I had friends running from buildings (thinking they were running for their lives) well after he tweeted that. A lot of students are pissed he did that. If he tweeted that now, no problem. But he did it in the thick of it. He made a huge mistake. Right meaning, wrong timing.

[BulldogDX55]

As someone who had a loved one on campus at the time, I actually agree with the phrasing of "Active Shooter" in the initial report. While in the end not accurate, had it been accurate, it would have saved lives. When people are shouting about a gunman, seconds matter and they made the right call. The guy made a phone call about doing a murder/suicide to the suicide hot line, and sent a disturbing email to one of his professors. The caution was warranted.

Also, everyone should ignore scottycameron, he is a crotchety old man who hates all technology.

[RocketCityDawg]

My anger was directed at those that posted "verified" information that was 100% incorrect. I didn't really have that big of an issue with the "active shooter" from the official alert. To me that was the "err on the side of caution" that makes sense. But maybe I should have been mad about that too.

To me a very stressful situation was made even more stressful due to bad information floating around touted as undeniably true. Thank God in the end it WAS just a bunch of misinformation and nobody was hurt.

I really think the events of yesterday made this even more traumatic.

Rocket, I'm sorry for going off on your post. I didn't really intend to direct it at you. You certainly weren't the only one who were told something wrong and relayed it. I'm sure I lost a few Facebook friends over this.

And I'm sorry for channeling Capt. Wild Bill (no, not an Army Ranger) in my rant.


No sweat. We're all on the same side in the end. Just glad our kids are ok. I knew my son was good when he said, "The important thing is that Dak is OK."

[Really Clark?]

Yeah, I have no problem with what he intended. But he's arguably the second most recognizable face to students behind mullen. I had friends running from buildings (thinking they were running for their lives) well after he tweeted that. A lot of students are pissed he did that. If he tweeted that now, no problem. But he did it in the thick of it. He made a huge mistake. Right meaning, wrong timing.

I agree. And if the idiot at the SU hadn't stirred up chaos then it may not have seemed as bad. But still should have waited.

[mcain31]

I was in McCool when this happened. It was was the craziest thing that has ever happened to me. We were in the middle of a quiz and our teacher pulled her phone out to tell us what was going on. Luckily we had a Vet and he was getting updates as well. We were getting the text in the classroom of it could be multiple shooters and someone claimed to hear on the scanner that two people had died; just like some of those guys were tweeting out. I believe he was a student too so he might've just been panicking. I do know that as we were about to leave McCool after the cops came in, they put us in a second lockdown. We saw people running and yelling "He's in here. He's in here." We then heard the police about 10 minutes later saying put your hands up. Hands up. Our Vet walked out and explained we had people in our classroom. We had to walkout with our hands up and AKs waved at us. As we sat there, I just believed this was ISIS. I'm just glad God was with us.

Were you on the 2nd floor?

[godlluB]

As someone who had a loved one on campus at the time, I actually agree with the phrasing of "Active Shooter" in the initial report. While in the end not accurate, had it been accurate, it would have saved lives. When people are shouting about a gunman, seconds matter and they made the right call. The guy made a phone call about doing a murder/suicide to the suicide hot line, and sent a disturbing email to one of his professors. The caution was warranted.

Also, everyone should ignore scottycameron, he is a crotchety old man who hates all technology.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If an official outlet reports there is an active shooter, then there damned well better have been actual shots fired. Otherwise you lose all credibility in the future. That phrase was so totally inaccurate in this situation, that next time, I'll question whether to believe what Maroon Alert is posting, and if people doubt it, then it is pointless.

Words mean things, and if you are the official spokesman in an official situation, it is your job to understand that and to be accurate.

[mcain31]

My only problem was that MSU gave the 1st all clear while the police were still clearing buildings. I was in McCool while this was going on. There was a lot of confusion as always in situations like this.

[It_Could_Happen]

As someone who had a loved one on campus at the time, I actually agree with the phrasing of "Active Shooter" in the initial report. While in the end not accurate, had it been accurate, it would have saved lives. When people are shouting about a gunman, seconds matter and they made the right call. The guy made a phone call about doing a murder/suicide to the suicide hot line, and sent a disturbing email to one of his professors. The caution was warranted.

Also, everyone should ignore scottycameron, he is a crotchety old man who hates all technology.

Well said that's the point I've been trying to get across.

[It_Could_Happen]

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If an official outlet reports there is an active shooter, then there damned well better have been actual shots fired. Otherwise you lose all credibility in the future. That phrase was so totally inaccurate in this situation, that next time, I'll question whether to believe what Maroon Alert is posting, and if people doubt it, then it is pointless.

Words mean things, and if you are the official spokesman in an official situation, it is your job to understand that and to be accurate.

You're just ignorant if you really will doubt what they say after that. They did what they thought what would keep people safe and if you can't see that you must be blind.

[mstatefan91]

If you weren't there then please stop commenting on how the university handled it. The info was out there quickly. People got to safety. It was the best way to handle it.

The problem was the misinformation afterward. That's what could have been handled in a better way. They should have sent officials to each classroom to explain the situation after the suspect was in custody and then let them go.

[Liverpooldawg]

What the heck do you expect the university to do? The Suicide line had just reported a guy had called and said he was about to kill himself and others on the campus. That is pretty much what all the mass school shootings have been, suicide by cop events. I suppose you would have wanted them to wait till he had actuall killed people before issuing an alert? Everybody involved appears to have handled this pretty damn well. I have a son down there and I'm very glad they did what they did.

[mcain31]

I am glad that they gave the active shooter alert. It was a precaution that may have prevented a tragedy. Those of us on campus didn't truly know what was going on.

[rem101]

We'll just have to agree to disagree then. If an official outlet reports there is an active shooter, then there damned well better have been actual shots fired. Otherwise you lose all credibility in the future. That phrase was so totally inaccurate in this situation, that next time, I'll question whether to believe what Maroon Alert is posting, and if people doubt it, then it is pointless.

Words mean things, and if you are the official spokesman in an official situation, it is your job to understand that and to be accurate.

Active shooter and suspected gunman would get the same result from me - and that's get to safety. I have no problem with the way the university handled it.

[WeWonItAll(Most)]

Yes, Tusk. My bad. Still shaken up. You don't know what to believe or not. You just find your roommates, closest friends, and girlfriend on a day like today and just give them a hug. Situation could've been a lot worse than what it was. You just never know what to do except call your parents and tell them you love them. A lot of anger out there, but from inside we got all types of text and information. You don't know what to do when you hear multiple shooters or two people dead, except pray to God.
And retweet it.

[TUSK]

Is it lawful to carry a weapon on campuses? (at all?)

obviously I can't speak intelligently on events of today... but in the 80s, an "active shooter" would likely be seeking protection by law enforcement from his intended victims...

[mstatefan91]

Is it lawful to carry a weapon on campuses? (at all?)

obviously I can't speak intelligently on events of today... but in the 80s, an "active shooter" would likely be seeking protection by law enforcement from his intended victims...
No. Firearms are banned from Mississippi State's campus unless you are law enforcement.

[BankerDog]

Were you on the 2nd floor?

Yes I was.

[mcain31]

Yes I was.

You might've been in the room with me. What did the veteran look like?