Deshun Dixon...

[BeardoMSU]

...arrested for DUI. It sure has been an eventful off season.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/mississippistatesports/2015/04/27/msu-walk-on-deshun-dixon-arrested-dui-sunday-night/26455387/

[ShotgunDawg]

...arrested for DUI. It sure has been an eventful off season.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/mississippistatesports/2015/04/27/msu-walk-on-deshun-dixon-arrested-dui-sunday-night/26455387/

Probably a good thing as long as it says within reason and doesn't cause us to lose some key players.

The truth is that when you have players getting in trouble off the field, it usually means you have better players.

[DistrictDawg92]

I'd say probably around 80% of State fans didn't even know he was on our roster, no big deal. I think the only off season issue that will affect us next year will be Bear's arrest. He will be suspended for the first game against USM and then be ready to roll. People seem to forget that our players are only 18-22 year old kids, and at that age shit happens and it always will.

On a related note, the Dixon family is very good at a lot of things, but obviously not drinking and driving.

[FlabLoser]

The truth is that when you have players getting in trouble off the field, it usually means you have better players.

:confused:

[Todd4State]

I'd say probably around 80% of State fans didn't even know he was on our roster, no big deal. I think the only off season issue that will affect us next year will be Bear's arrest. He will be suspended for the first game against USM and then be ready to roll. People seem to forget that our players are only 18-22 year old kids, and at that age shit happens and it always will.

On a related note, the Dixon family is very good at a lot of things, but obviously not drinking and driving.

Is Bear being out for USM confirmed? If I were Dan I would sit him out for Northwestern State.

[DistrictDawg92]

Is Bear being out for USM confirmed? If I were Dan I would sit him out for Northwestern State.

Bear himself has told multiple people that he will most likely be suspended for the USM game. I'm sure a formal announcement will never be made but don't be surprised if you don't see him step on the field in week 1. We will easily handle USM with or without Bear, and also it looks better when you suspend someone the first game of the season for something that happened in the offseason compared to picking your easiest game to suspend someone, like Freeze does. Will also be good to get some younger less experienced guys some playing time in his place. Regardless, Bear will be ready come the LSU game.

[ShotgunDawg]

:confused:

Yeah, I know it seems weird, but, as the old saying goes, "you don't find NFL players at a monastery"

Professional athletes, and particularly NFL players, are asked to be boarderline psychotic in order to perform the tasks necessary to be an elite player.

If you've ever been in a professional locker room, you would likely understand that most of those guys are arrogant, narcissistic, ultra-competitive, and don't believe that the laws that everyone lives by applies to them. It's one of the reasons that they can walk into a stadium of 80,000 people and own the place. It's also the reason that people like Peyton Manning, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, etc... should be celebrated. Because they are able to be bi polar enough to overcome the attitude that is demanded of them to be successful.

That being said, the more narcissistic, ultra-competitive, gambling, ass-holes you have on your team, usually the better you are. There is a correlation.

[Dawgcentral]

Man, I'd agree with some of your points, but you have no idea what it means to be Bi- Polar.

[ShotgunDawg]

Man, I'd agree with some of your points, but you have no idea what it means to be Bi- Polar.

Your exactly right. I didn't mean it as literal bi-polar. Just a figure of speech to make a point.

[Dawg61]

The truth is that when you have players getting in trouble off the field, it usually means you have better players.

Ok Al Davis this might be the dumbest thought to grace this board and the scariest.

[Dawgcentral]

I got ya. Just seen the condition more than others I guess.

[blacklistedbully]

Probably a good thing as long as it says within reason and doesn't cause us to lose some key players.

The truth is that when you have players getting in trouble off the field, it usually means you have better players.

WTF??

[MabenMaroon]

Saw one of the articles on Reshun's arrest, saw the he was booked at 1:40 and released at 2:45, reckon who bailed him out***:)

[blacklistedbully]

Yeah, I know it seems weird, but, as the old saying goes, "you don't find NFL players at a monastery"

Professional athletes, and particularly NFL players, are asked to be boarderline psychotic in order to perform the tasks necessary to be an elite player.

If you've ever been in a professional locker room, you would likely understand that most of those guys are arrogant, narcissistic, ultra-competitive, and don't believe that the laws that everyone lives by applies to them. It's one of the reasons that they can walk into a stadium of 80,000 people and own the place. It's also the reason that people like Peyton Manning, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, etc... should be celebrated. Because they are able to be bi polar enough to overcome the attitude that is demanded of them to be successful.

That being said, the more narcissistic, ultra-competitive, gambling, ass-holes you have on your team, usually the better you are. There is a correlation.

I have personally met a number of professional athletes in social settings, including 49ers, Raiders, and Rick Barry of the Warriors. Ronnie Lott, easily one of the most hard-nosed players of all-time, is the nicest, most mild-mannered guy you could ever hope to meet. Steve Young is a big ole softie. Bryant Young, the kind of young man you'd love to see your daughter marry. Eric Davis - nice guy. Old-time Oakland Raider Ben Davidson, considered one of the meanest, toughest to ever step on the gridiron, is a really decent guy, super-friendly.

I have no doubt there are a number of thugs who play in the NFL, but in my experience, I haven't met one yet off-the-field that was an ass or a thug. In fact, all the ones I've met exuded class. That said, I think we are seeing more and more thugs entering the NFL, etc, but I suspect it has more to do with modern society's moral standards as a whole, as opposed to the kind of attitudes needed to succeed in the NFL. It seems like we've become too accepting of poor behavior, of anti-social behavior, and not just with athletes. We've spent too long glorifying, "bad guys", and now it's considered, "acceptable behavior", or is at least tolerated.

Overall, society has lost it's moral-compass.

[Todd4State]

Bear himself has told multiple people that he will most likely be suspended for the USM game. I'm sure a formal announcement will never be made but don't be surprised if you don't see him step on the field in week 1. We will easily handle USM with or without Bear, and also it looks better when you suspend someone the first game of the season for something that happened in the offseason compared to picking your easiest game to suspend someone, like Freeze does. Will also be good to get some younger less experienced guys some playing time in his place. Regardless, Bear will be ready come the LSU game.

That works for me. I still disagree with Dan on that though- even though your points are good. We should be fine with Fred Brown and Morrow on the outside. I think our suspensions should happen against the I-AA team.

[PMDawg]

Probably a good thing as long as it says within reason and doesn't cause us to lose some key players.

The truth is that when you have players getting in trouble off the field, it usually means you have better players.

Strong 180 from when this was happening to ole miss.

[DanDority]

I'd say probably around 80% of State fans didn't even know he was on our roster, no big deal. I think the only off season issue that will affect us next year will be Bear's arrest. He will be suspended for the first game against USM and then be ready to roll. People seem to forget that our players are only 18-22 year old kids, and at that age shit happens and it always will.

On a related note, the Dixon family is very good at a lot of things, but obviously not drinking and driving.

How old is Deshun? I know the government would agree with you that 18-22 year olds are kids but I don't!

[Billy Ray Valentine]

How old is Deshun? I know the government would agree with you that 18-22 year olds are kids but I don't!

Maybe so but when I was that age I did a lot of dumb shit

[sandwolf]

I know the government would agree with you that 18-22 year olds are kids but I don't!

Pretty sure that the government considers anyone over 18 years old to be an adult.

[dawgoneyall]

Totally agree. But one can't have a pattern develop.

I don't think remotely does MSU have a pattern, but......don't let one develop.

[SignalToNoise]

Yeah, I know it seems weird, but, as the old saying goes, "you don't find NFL players at a monastery"

Professional athletes, and particularly NFL players, are asked to be boarderline psychotic in order to perform the tasks necessary to be an elite player.

If you've ever been in a professional locker room, you would likely understand that most of those guys are arrogant, narcissistic, ultra-competitive, and don't believe that the laws that everyone lives by applies to them. It's one of the reasons that they can walk into a stadium of 80,000 people and own the place. It's also the reason that people like Peyton Manning, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, etc... should be celebrated. Because they are able to be bi polar enough to overcome the attitude that is demanded of them to be successful.

That being said, the more narcissistic, ultra-competitive, gambling, ass-holes you have on your team, usually the better you are. There is a correlation.

Sorry, Shotgun, but I just don't agree with any of this. It all reeks of personal conjecture.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

That works for me. I still disagree with Dan on that though- even though your points are good. We should be fine with Fred Brown and Morrow on the outside. I think our suspensions should happen against the I-AA team.

We're not going to go the Houston Nutt method of picking & choosing which game we're going to suspend guys for. That totally takes the bite out of the punishment. Who cares if you get in trouble if your punishment is missing a glorified scrimmage. Mullen has done a great job with discipline that's why up until now you've seen so little problems with the team. He holds everyone accountable & the players know if they do something wrong there are consequences.

[ShotgunDawg]

Sorry, Shotgun, but I just don't agree with any of this. It all reeks of personal conjecture.

I can completely understand how you would come to that conclusion, but I can assure you that there is psychological research to back this.

Possibly the part that I didn't articulate correctly is that this doesn't necessarily mean these guys are bad people. It just means that, in most cases, professional athletes have a competitive edge, lack of fear, dog eat dog mentality, & Machiavellian component to their personalities that most people in the normal population don't have &, due to this, many of them, have trouble flicking the switch off & thus get in trouble off the field. Again, it doesn't mean that they are a bad person.

I could go into many more, but can't for personal reasons.

[Dawgface]

Strong 180 from when this was happening to ole miss.

Ha! I was thinking the same thing.

[DudyDawg]

Yeah, I know it seems weird, but, as the old saying goes, "you don't find NFL players at a monastery"

Professional athletes, and particularly NFL players, are asked to be boarderline psychotic in order to perform the tasks necessary to be an elite player.

If you've ever been in a professional locker room, you would likely understand that most of those guys are arrogant, narcissistic, ultra-competitive, and don't believe that the laws that everyone lives by applies to them. It's one of the reasons that they can walk into a stadium of 80,000 people and own the place. It's also the reason that people like Peyton Manning, Dak Prescott, Tom Brady, etc... should be celebrated. Because they are able to be bi polar enough to overcome the attitude that is demanded of them to be successful.

That being said, the more narcissistic, ultra-competitive, gambling, ass-holes you have on your team, usually the better you are. There is a correlation.

Not sure I would put Dak in the same breath as tom Brady and Peyton manning in that sense. Or any for that matter.....

[LC Dawg]

I did a lot of stupid stuff when I was in college but my parents always let me know that what I did reflected on them and that it was a big deal if their name was associated with my stupidity. In that respect I do think its more of a big deal than some people want to act like because these players represent Mississippi State. It's not as embarrassing as the warm up shirts but it is embarrassing when the headline says "Mississippi State player arrested". I don't think we are developing a pattern but I would rather not see Mississippi State reflected negatively in the press. Coach Mullen had done a great job with discipline so far at State and I'm sure he is addressing all incidents appropriately.