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sleepy dawg
04-23-2015, 10:11 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/100759/prescott-improving-in-more-ways-than-one

Pretty good read, not too much unexpected though.

ShotgunDawg
04-23-2015, 10:35 AM
Amazing how the momentum and perceptions start to come out this time of year.

Uneducated Booger strikes again in response to Aschoff's article

Edward Aschoff ‏@AschoffESPN 25m25 minutes ago
Dak Prescott returns with unfinished business #HailState http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/i...i-state-better …

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Booger
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@AschoffESPN wish he could being that front 7 from last year with him ��

Edward Aschoff ‏@AschoffESPN 19m19 minutes ago
@SECbooger Verrrrrry true

Bud Elliott ‏@TomahawkNation 18m18 minutes ago
@AschoffESPN @SECbooger yeah. That felt like Mississippi State's Wake Forest 2006 type year.

What is Booger talking about?

I always find it amazing that media tends to always pin the reason for our success on the one thing we lost from last year, thus allowing them say we will stink. Ludicrous

TheRef
04-23-2015, 10:37 AM
Nice copy and paste, bro.

Ralph
04-23-2015, 10:49 AM
So Dak is coaching the defense now. Could've used him last year

justwin
04-23-2015, 10:59 AM
so in back to back days the auburn homer, the OM homer, and the LSU homer all come out publicly and slam state. not surprised.

I'm just surprised Asschaps didn't work in the "2013 OM recruiting class default reference"

Coach34
04-23-2015, 11:12 AM
so in back to back days the auburn homer, the OM homer, and the LSU homer all come out publicly and slam state. not surprised.

I'm just surprised Asschaps didn't work in the "2013 OM recruiting class default reference"


I hope they are all stupid enough to pick us last in the SEC

ShotgunDawg
04-23-2015, 11:30 AM
Nice copy and paste, bro.

Thank BRO.....

Felt it would better as the 2nd post in this thread than the 60th in the other

confucius say
04-23-2015, 11:35 AM
I might get slammed for this, but I actually thought our front 7 underachieved at times last season, especially late in the year. I think there may be a slight drop off there, but nothing major.

ShotgunDawg
04-23-2015, 11:36 AM
I hope they are all stupid enough to pick us last in the SEC

Funny you say that because I think that's exactly where we are headed with this.

It's downright amazing how reality gets distorted, but wait and see.

They will talk themselves into picking the team with the best QB in the SEC last in favor of teams that have enormous QB questions that have no obvious answer.

It's amazing how the media forgets what is important in football in football. In the NFL, it's understood that the teams with the best QBs are the best teams, but, for some reason, in college the media can't put those puzzle pieces together.

The Patriots, Colts, Packers, & Chargers are average to below average teams if you took their QB off the team, but everyone understands it in the NFL, but they can't figure that out at the college level.

The media is seriously creating momentum to rank the team that will have one of the best 2 offenses in the SEC next year (Auburn) last in the SEC West. It's mindless

Barking 13
04-23-2015, 12:52 PM
I was just having this conversation with a gump a while ago. He says that we have a good QB but nothing to go with it. We lost McKinney, Smith, Wells, JRob, and Lewis, etc. and we are returning nobody to support Dak. All I could do is laugh... let them all be surprised again....

DancingRabbit
04-23-2015, 12:57 PM
so in back to back days the auburn homer, the OM homer, and the LSU homer all come out publicly and slam state. not surprised.

I'm just surprised Asschaps didn't work in the "2013 OM recruiting class default reference"

Who's this? I missed that one I guess.

Barking 13
04-23-2015, 01:04 PM
booger

Political Hack
04-23-2015, 01:16 PM
I might get slammed for this, but I actually thought our front 7 underachieved at times last season, especially late in the year. I think there may be a slight drop off there, but nothing major.

our front seven played like a back seven in the last two games of the season.

Political Hack
04-23-2015, 01:19 PM
I was just having this conversation with a gump a while ago. He says that we have a good QB but nothing to go with it. We lost McKinney, Smith, Wells, JRob, and Lewis, etc. and we are returning nobody to support Dak. All I could do is laugh... let them all be surprised again....

it's going to make it SOOOO much more fun this season. They have no clue how loaded our roster is right now. We're a legitimate SEC 3 deep at a lot of spots and are only lacking elite SEC talent at maybe one position among our starters... and we have young studs there too. The team, as a whole, will be better this year than last year. I just hope the schedule doesn't take control and grind them up.

Barking 13
04-23-2015, 01:37 PM
it's going to make it SOOOO much more fun this season. They have no clue how loaded our roster is right now. We're a legitimate SEC 3 deep at a lot of spots and are only lacking elite SEC talent at maybe one position among our starters... and we have young studs there too. The team, as a whole, will be better this year than last year. I just hope the schedule doesn't take control and grind them up.

I tried to convince him that we lost some experience, but actually upgraded in talent.. We'll be waiting on the tide to roll into S-Vegas.. he was laughing until I said, "what happened in Oxford"? and what was our score again? Who was driving for the win at the end of the game?

silence......

RougeDawg
04-23-2015, 05:58 PM
And after we finish the regular season 11-1, these same asshats will say the SEC had a down year. It's more predictable than the sun rising in the morning.

F*ck them all, Asschaps included. I attempted to help him out last year before his preseason predictions to which he laughed. Let them continue to look like idiots with their predictions. Eventually their track record will be evaluated and their positions taken care of.

DistrictDawg92
04-23-2015, 06:37 PM
I can't wait to whoop LSU's ass in week 2. Our players are the only people that think we will win the national championship next year, and that's all that matters. I swear, we are the only team that could be returning the 1st team All-SEC and heisman candidate QB who lead us to a 2nd place finish in the SEC west last year, and still be picked to finished last in the west the very next year. Guess we will have to let our performance on the field next year do the talking again.

Dawgcentral
04-23-2015, 06:51 PM
Last year very few thought we could beat LSU at their place, and beat Auburn at DWS. Turn the opposite trick this year and that's what it will take to regain that national attention and respect.

We all knew last year that the early LSU win was the key the get things rolling.

The road win at Auburn will be the big statement. How hungry will we be at the end of the regular season? Isn't that what we've been lacking? The Bama loss was the great deflator. We seemed to be uninspired from that point on.

What will make the difference?

DancingRabbit
04-23-2015, 07:05 PM
I think the lack of experience in the spotlight and carrying the #1 label was part of the problem. Dak getting dinged up at KY was also part of it. Dan and Dak both had a case of the nerves in the 1st half at Bama.

Seems there had to be some issues going on with Collins the last part of the season. The game plan and effort in Oxford was deplorable.

If we get on a roll and get back in the spotlight this fall, I think Dan and Dak will handle it better. And I'm very optimistic Diaz will do a great job for us.


Last year very few thought we could beat LSU at their place, and beat Auburn at DWS. Turn the opposite trick this year and that's what it will take to regain that national attention and respect.

We all knew last year that the early LSU win was the key the get things rolling.

The road win at Auburn will be the big statement. How hungry will we be at the end of the regular season? Isn't that what we've been lacking? The Bama loss was the great deflator. We seemed to be uninspired from that point on.

What will make the difference?

Todd4State
04-23-2015, 07:38 PM
Last year very few thought we could beat LSU at their place, and beat Auburn at DWS. Turn the opposite trick this year and that's what it will take to regain that national attention and respect.

We all knew last year that the early LSU win was the key the get things rolling.

The road win at Auburn will be the big statement. How hungry will we be at the end of the regular season? Isn't that what we've been lacking? The Bama loss was the great deflator. We seemed to be uninspired from that point on.

What will make the difference?

At this point, we have to beat Alabama to get the respect we want along with continuing to beat the teams that we did last year.

BulldogBear
04-23-2015, 07:42 PM
At this point, we have to beat Alabama to get the respect we want along with continuing to beat the teams that we did last year.

Maybe. These 17ers are still liable to say, "yeah but they didn't have to play (insert school) out of the east division."

RossDawg82
04-23-2015, 08:09 PM
If you think it's crazy that they are dogging us now with a potential heisman on our team. Think about how bad it will be when we lose Dak. It doesn't matter if we win a NC this year, as soon as Dak is gone the media types will treat us like this years baseball team. But I personally think with our recruiting, we will be just as good for years to come.

confucius say
04-23-2015, 08:28 PM
I think it really will come down to how hungry we are. How big a chip we carry on our shoulder. The hardest part of coaching to me, especially after being at one school for a few years, was finding ways to refresh the message and keep everybody motivated and on edge. If dan and staff, and the team leaders, can do that, we will be good to go.

justwin
04-23-2015, 08:50 PM
Funny you say that because I think that's exactly where we are headed with this.

It's downright amazing how reality gets distorted, but wait and see.

They will talk themselves into picking the team with the best QB in the SEC last in favor of teams that have enormous QB questions that have no obvious answer.

It's amazing how the media forgets what is important in football in football. In the NFL, it's understood that the teams with the best QBs are the best teams, but, for some reason, in college the media can't put those puzzle pieces together.

The Patriots, Colts, Packers, & Chargers are average to below average teams if you took their QB off the team, but everyone understands it in the NFL, but they can't figure that out at the college level.

The media is seriously creating momentum to rank the team that will have one of the best 2 offenses in the SEC next year (Auburn) last in the SEC West. It's mindless

speaking of QB importance, I'm willing to say now that Tiano may be the top QB in the recent SEC recruiting class. Yeah, I know TXAM got a dual threat highly ranked 5'10" guy & I know Bama got yet another highly rated guy from CA (where HS football is "soft"), but in 2 years Tiano is going to "developed" into something special. Nick is the tallest and biggest QB signed in the SEC last year. Very smart kid too. Better runner and shifty inside the pocket quite well.

justwin
04-23-2015, 08:53 PM
I think it really will come down to how hungry we are. How big a chip we carry on our shoulder. The hardest part of coaching to me, especially after being at one school for a few years, was finding ways to refresh the message and keep everybody motivated and on edge. If dan and staff, and the team leaders, can do that, we will be good to go.

This "chip" you speak of will be Dak's legacy. Beating the brakes off of LSU last year did so much for our fanbase and program. Major mental hurdle that he helped lead. This year, especially after the whining that Miles did over Day, will resonate with Mullen and I expect him to throttle LSU til the end.

justwin
04-23-2015, 09:28 PM
At this point, we have to beat Alabama to get the respect we want along with continuing to beat the teams that we did last year.

I understand what you're saying buy I would say it in reverse. I think we need to beat the teams we beat and then beat Bama. Bama's not the issue...beating LSU & Auburn consistently is the issue. I know I've said this before, but think about this for a moment

17-14 Auburn beats MSU in vegas with Scam 5 years ago. Several missed opportunities including Corey missed pick 6.
41-34 Auburn @ Aub after Ballard scores on the hurdle over the corner pylon no call late & the faux 4&1 Aub referee conversion
28-10 MSU when Tyler lead us to an unprecedented dominating 7-0 start. Chizik is fired. Fans start to believe.
24-20 Auburn on last play after several questionable no calls
38-23 MSU where we dominated them in every phase. The only thing that stopped us that game was Mother Nature in the 2Q or we would've at least scored another 7 before half. 2015 Auburn won't be as good as 2014 Auburn. You made a comment about Howland being able to look Cal & Donovan in the eye unlike the other SEC ilk and I think Diaz = Muschamp under the same premise. That's why I think the Diaz hire is one of the top 2 offseason SEC storylines and people are just completely missing it. For a team that desperately needed a stud LB/DC coach, we got the best guy out there. Muschamp has done nice things at Texas/LSU/Aub where there are unlimited resources unlike Diaz

Win any of those 3 and we're where we are now as early as 2 years ago.

So, if I had to choose between beating Aub or Bama NEXT year, I pick beating Auburn b/c I think that gets MSU to back to back 9-0 starts and 3 of last 4 years starting at least 7-0 starts. Think about that. To me, I think that mirrors what TCU has done in the last 10 to legitimately get into the conversation and MSU, in half the time, kicks down the door and deserves to be into legitimate "perennial" lasting power discussions. Then, when you have numnuts like Aub homer, OM homer, LSU homer write the same annual derogatory MSU fball articles with the only difference between years is the publish date.....people with any sense (even Danny Kanell) call their b/s and Aub homer / OM homer / LSU homer lose credibility.

I just don't think Auburn's interior OL is going to be able to handle our 4 DTs in James, Jones, Adams, and Thomas. We are soooo deep at DE. Sooooo deep put her ass to sleep. Plus, Manny has matched up with Auburn (Malzahn) quite well, but the end of the day I think Johnson isn't nearly as mobile as what Gus has had in the past and that's going to change things for that offense. That big WR that pushed Taveze off of him leaving is huge. I just think a majority of Malzahn's offense happens within 3 yards of where the ball is snapped and a center replacing an overhyped former SEC center + a less mobile QB should be very concerning for War Eagle.

We beat Auburn next year, we're in Atlanta. That simple.

So, then what happens in 2016? MSU has Auburn @ home vs a Sr. Johnson. On the road vs the same shitty LSU qb. However, what other SEC West QB is going to match up with the Fitz / Staley combo? As sophomores, tell me. That's the article I can't wait to read from Aub homer / OM homer / LSU homer. Plus, I think either Ross or Wilson is back for his sr year if not both..all 3 of our RBs this year are back too mind you

Then, we start beating Bama.

I can't wait for fall.

BulldogBear
04-23-2015, 09:50 PM
You all make compelling analysis of this annual BS. Maybe we eventually gain that respect but the best indication of future behavior is often past behavior. Seems every step we take, these 17ers just move the bar. It really reminds me of someone drawing a line on the ground and saying, "I dare you to step over this line." So we finally do. Then the process starts all over again. I swear one of these days we may win it all. But if so, instead of writing articles about how far MSU football has come, these 17ers will just opine about how much we are gonna lose, how much we will fall off the next year, and how all the usual suspects were "down" that year.

War Machine Dawg
04-23-2015, 11:49 PM
You all make compelling analysis of this annual BS. Maybe we eventually gain that respect but the best indication of future behavior is often past behavior. Seems every step we take, these 17ers just move the bar. It really reminds me of someone drawing a line on the ground and saying, "I dare you to step over this line." So we finally do. Then the process starts all over again. I swear one of these days we may win it all. But if so, instead of writing articles about how far MSU football has come, these 17ers will just opine about how much we are gonna lose, how much we will fall off the next year, and how all the usual suspects were "down" that year.

http://i.imgur.com/cuCPKY3.gif

DawgHouseUnited
04-24-2015, 08:39 AM
You all make compelling analysis of this annual BS. Maybe we eventually gain that respect but the best indication of future behavior is often past behavior. Seems every step we take, these 17ers just move the bar. It really reminds me of someone drawing a line on the ground and saying, "I dare you to step over this line." So we finally do. Then the process starts all over again. I swear one of these days we may win it all. But if so, instead of writing articles about how far MSU football has come, these 17ers will just opine about how much we are gonna lose, how much we will fall off the next year, and how all the usual suspects were "down" that year.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/flyfry/post-26206-Yosemite-Sam-keeps-crossing-Bu-vFRB_zps95cf68f2.gif (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/flyfry/media/post-26206-Yosemite-Sam-keeps-crossing-Bu-vFRB_zps95cf68f2.gif.html)

BulldogBear
04-24-2015, 11:14 AM
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff171/flyfry/post-26206-Yosemite-Sam-keeps-crossing-Bu-vFRB_zps95cf68f2.gif (http://s238.photobucket.com/user/flyfry/media/post-26206-Yosemite-Sam-keeps-crossing-Bu-vFRB_zps95cf68f2.gif.html)

HA!!

That's exactly the cartoon I was picturing in my mind.

Bottom line really is that nobody wants us to be any good. Ever. We've been designated as supposed to be the whipping boy auto W that every conference/division has/needs. And we are not cooperating. They want us to go away.

It is revealed in their thought processes and the spew that then comes forth. We only supposed to get cute and go to a couple of bowl games once in a while not challenge for the conference. There also, we are not cooperating.

It's almost like they think if they say it, it will come true. I gripe. But that's on principle.

Truth is I don't mind us playing from the underdog POV. I like having something to prove in that we do better that way and always have.