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Wade Garrett
04-22-2015, 08:46 AM
From the twitters


JAWS ‏@NJaws96 3m3 minutes ago
After many emails & phone calls. I've decided to attend Miss State next fall. Excited to be a Bulldog 🏈 #HailState

Howboutdemdogs
04-22-2015, 08:49 AM
Got more info? This is great news!

Wade Garrett
04-22-2015, 08:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alN0RzLV1y8&app=desktop

Dawg496
04-22-2015, 09:01 AM
Says class of 2015. Huge for this fall.

HancockCountyDog
04-22-2015, 09:04 AM
Maybe Im reading too much into this, but I would assume he is walk on.

I swear, as loaded as our team is, if we lose a game this year because of missed short field goals, Im going to lose my mind.

Dawgface
04-22-2015, 09:16 AM
Yeah but can he shank a kick off out of bounds?

Treemydawg
04-22-2015, 09:16 AM
I've watched a couple videos of him kicking, the kid looks awesome.

Wade Garrett
04-22-2015, 09:27 AM
He is a walk on. One of the top kickers in the class

mparkerfd20
04-22-2015, 09:39 AM
Without even watching the video he's got a Kicker name. Hopefully he's a good one.

BulldogBear
04-22-2015, 09:40 AM
He is a walk on. One of the top kickers in the class

Well, I hope he earns a scholly soon!

FISHDAWG
04-22-2015, 09:52 AM
Well, I hope he earns a scholly soon!

I heard Sobiesk was leaving the team to pursue dentistry ... was Sobiesk on schollie ? .... if so, there is one available

MadisonDawg
04-22-2015, 09:53 AM
I heard Sobiesk was leaving the team to pursue dentistry ... was Sobiesk on schollie ? .... if so, there is one available

Academic scholly

AFDawg
04-22-2015, 09:55 AM
5'10" 150? NAFOOM says our 'roids program will have him to 225 in no time.

Bothrops
04-22-2015, 10:06 AM
At 5'10 150 he's about as big as that Graves kid.

Political Hack
04-22-2015, 10:10 AM
soccer kid who has played 1 year of football. He's going to get a lot better with some technical coaching.

AROB44
04-22-2015, 10:14 AM
soccer kid who has played 1 year of football. He's going to get a lot better with some technical coaching.

Paging JWS...where are you Jackie?

bgover4
04-22-2015, 10:35 AM
Any concerns of kicking off turf instead of grass?

Really Clark?
04-22-2015, 10:39 AM
Paging JWS...where are you Jackie?

Love me some Jackie, but I had much rather he go to a Jamie Kohl or another high level coach like that. Kicking is just too specialized and being a great special teams coach has nothing to do with teaching technique. Although Jackie was good on the mental aspects as such.

Political Hack
04-22-2015, 10:40 AM
Any concerns of kicking off turf instead of grass?

you'd think that would make it easier... more consistent footing and placement.

Political Hack
04-22-2015, 10:41 AM
Love me some Jackie, but I had much rather he go to a Jamie Kohl or another high level coach like that. Kicking is just too specialized and being a great special teams coach has nothing to do with teaching technique. Although Jackie was good on the mental aspects as such.

I've wondered why we don't send our specialists to camps like that. QBs go to the Manning camp, to work with that guy in California, etc... We should do the same thing with our K's/P's/Snappers. I'd rather them be there working than kicking balls unsupervised on the practice filed next to summer work outs.

mparkerfd20
04-22-2015, 10:43 AM
soccer kid who has played 1 year of football. He's going to get a lot better with some technical coaching.

Well he won't get much of that from Dan on kicking technique.

Really Clark?
04-22-2015, 10:53 AM
I've wondered why we don't send our specialists to camps like that. QBs go to the Manning camp, to work with that guy in California, etc... We should do the same thing with our K's/P's/Snappers. I'd rather them be there working than kicking balls unsupervised on the practice filed next to summer work outs.

I don't know, and not sure some of our guys haven't gone in the past but I can't recall either way truthfully. But I've been an advocate of them going to those coaches for a long time. Especially the ones who have a great track record of developing guys to the NFL level.

PSYCHO(thesis)DEFENSE
04-22-2015, 10:54 AM
1 article says he had to make a dual-sport contract with his HS saying he could only practice w/ the football team 30 min. a day before going to soccer practice, so he's gotta be pretty raw technique-wise.

I wonder if having only 1 yr of HS football will help the transition from kicking off the tee to kicking off the ground, since he's not as used to kicking off the tee as more experienced kickers coming out of HS.

maroonmania
04-22-2015, 11:35 AM
he's gotta be pretty raw technique-wise.



He'll fit right in.

Treemydawg
04-22-2015, 12:12 PM
1 article says he had to make a dual-sport contract with his HS saying he could only practice w/ the football team 30 min. a day before going to soccer practice, so he's gotta be pretty raw technique-wise.

I wonder if having only 1 yr of HS football will help the transition from kicking off the tee to kicking off the ground, since he's not as used to kicking off the tee as more experienced kickers coming out of HS.

Just look at his videos on YouTube. I never saw him kick off a tee in any of them and he was money every time.

preachermatt83
04-22-2015, 12:22 PM
1 article says he had to make a dual-sport contract with his HS saying he could only practice w/ the football team 30 min. a day before going to soccer practice, so he's gotta be pretty raw technique-wise.

I wonder if having only 1 yr of HS football will help the transition from kicking off the tee to kicking off the ground, since he's not as used to kicking off the tee as more experienced kickers coming out of HS.

he kicks off the ground

bgover4
04-22-2015, 12:22 PM
Just look at his videos on YouTube. I never saw him kick off a tee in any of them and he was money every time.

Haha you didn't expect them to highight any of his misses did you? Not saying he did, just saying we may only have half of his kicks.

Treemydawg
04-22-2015, 12:31 PM
Haha you didn't expect them to highight any of his misses did you? Not saying he did, just saying we may only have half of his kicks.

No I didn't and wouldn't expect them to. Just passing along what I watched of him on the videos.

Really Clark?
04-22-2015, 12:32 PM
I suspect he kicked for our coaches when he was here a few weeks ago. So they would have seen him live and on grass.

bgover4
04-22-2015, 12:44 PM
No I didn't and wouldn't expect them to. Just passing along what I watched of him on the videos.

I am all for the kid...would be great to have a kicker who is trustworthy, especially as a walkon. Clearly he has the ability, i am just concerned about consistancy and ability to handle the pressure since we have no proof of that. I would have liked the video to include his stats.

Nothing can prove his ability to handle the pressure until he is put into a situation, but i am glad to know the coaches have seen him kick on grass and have witnessed his consistancy.

dawgoneyall
04-22-2015, 02:42 PM
Can he kick?

Ifyouonlyknew
04-22-2015, 02:46 PM
I am all for the kid...would be great to have a kicker who is trustworthy, especially as a walkon. Clearly he has the ability, i am just concerned about consistancy and ability to handle the pressure since we have no proof of that. I would have liked the video to include his stats.

Nothing can prove his ability to handle the pressure until he is put into a situation, but i am glad to know the coaches have seen him kick on grass and have witnessed his consistancy.

That's the thing with kickers tho you're never going to know how they're going to react until in that position. Then it may be too late. You can't simulate that pressure in practice it only comes from doing it in front of 80k screaming opposing fans.

Interpolation_Dawg_EX
04-22-2015, 02:51 PM
Love me some Jackie, but I had much rather he go to a Jamie Kohl or another high level coach like that. Kicking is just too specialized and being a great special teams coach has nothing to do with teaching technique. Although Jackie was good on the mental aspects as such.

I believe that Logan Cooke (sp?) attended one of these camps before he arrived at State...http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/Cooke/Logan/commits/6793

War Machine Dawg
04-22-2015, 03:13 PM
Well he won't get much of that from Dan on kicking technique.

If anything, Mullen's teaching of "technique" will make him worse. Just leave him the hell alone and let him kick, Dan.

Really Clark?
04-22-2015, 03:39 PM
I believe that Logan Cooke (sp?) attended one of these camps before he arrived at State...http://kohlskicking.com/recruiting/Cooke/Logan/commits/6793

There you go, for some reason was thinking someone went there. I hope he keeps going but in fairness to him, and Bell for that matter, they have always liked punting more I understand.

FlabLoser
04-22-2015, 04:43 PM
I suspect he kicked for our coaches when he was here a few weeks ago. So they would have seen him live and on grass.

Well that explains why he didn't want to go to Ole Miss.

RougeDawg
04-22-2015, 06:35 PM
Any concerns of kicking off turf instead of grass?

This^^^^^ Dan's "Cohening" of our kickers has made them all worse.

Todd4State
04-22-2015, 06:44 PM
I think our issues with recruiting kickers is for whatever reason we've recruited guys that are really punter prospects as our top guys while relying on walk-ons for the PK job.

Let's be honest- Bell and Cooke have been pretty good punters and KO guys for us. Sobiesk was good last year- but he had no range. We pretty much had to be in the red zone to be in FG range. Otherwise we were going for it on fourth down when we were inside the other teams 40.

Westin Graves to me is Sobiesk 2.0.

Todd4State
04-22-2015, 06:45 PM
And speaking of kickers, has anyone heard anything else about that guy from Hattiesburg that went to Presbyterian Christian that was playing at Tennessee that was supposed to be looking at transferring to MSU?

B4its2L8
05-01-2015, 02:59 AM
Maybe Im reading too much into this, but I would assume he is walk on.

I swear, as loaded as our team is, if we lose a game this year because of missed short field goals, Im going to lose my mind.

Not sure I'm too excited yet. Looks like his team was 3-7, with little action beyond XP's. Tough to tell much more since the team did not submit any stat's. Also, have my doubts on the distance. Everyone jokes about Sobiesk's distance being limited at 40 yards, yet I've watched kicking camp videos of him hitting from beyond 60. Does that translate to this kid being limited to 25 yards in a game situation?

Really Clark?
05-01-2015, 05:37 AM
Not sure I'm too excited yet. Looks like his team was 3-7, with little action beyond XP's. Tough to tell much more since the team did not submit any stat's. Also, have my doubts on the distance. Everyone jokes about Sobiesk's distance being limited at 40 yards, yet I've watched kicking camp videos of him hitting from beyond 60. Does that translate to this kid being limited to 25 yards in a game situation?

I suspect he kicked for our coaches when he was here a few weeks ago. So they would have seen him live and on grass.

Political Hack
05-01-2015, 08:09 AM
Not sure I'm too excited yet. Looks like his team was 3-7, with little action beyond XP's. Tough to tell much more since the team did not submit any stat's. Also, have my doubts on the distance. Everyone jokes about Sobiesk's distance being limited at 40 yards, yet I've watched kicking camp videos of him hitting from beyond 60. Does that translate to this kid being limited to 25 yards in a game situation?

I could put you on the front of a bass boat and use you as a motor.

MS Dawg 67
05-01-2015, 12:23 PM
Cooke, Bell, and Sobiesk attended showcases put on by Kohl, Chris Sailer, or Team Jackson. Some did two different showcases. You go to these as often as you would like while in high school. All three of those guys were ranked in the top 15 in the country, some higher in pk or p, just depends. Someone posted that the young man from Wisconsin that is going to walk on was in the top 100. If you go to Kohl kicking web site, you will see they rank the top 99, then at 100...There are 124 ranked #100, listed alphabetically. I think Bell and Cooke have continued to work with kicking coaches throughout their high school and college career.

Jack Lambert
05-01-2015, 12:30 PM
Yeah but can he shank a kick off out of bounds?

I want to know can he hit a baseball deep into the out field when the bases are loaded.