yea, "and we're done here"... nice to have the power when

[Bully13]

you've had your clocked cleaned.

[Quaoarsking]

Remember that Title IX does NOT require scholarships to be equal, but for the male/female ratio of athletic scholarships to mirror that of the schools. If the school it 60-40 men women, then it can have 60% of its athletic scholarships go to men. (Actually there's no "can" about it -- it has to.)

Mississippi State, like most D1 schools, has a higher % of women enrolled than men, so it has more women on athletic scholarship than men.

If men don't like it, we should get our act together and go to college more.

[msstate7]

Remember that Title IX does NOT require scholarships to be equal, but for the male/female ratio of athletic scholarships to mirror that of the schools. If the school it 60-40 men women, then it can have 60% of its athletic scholarships go to men. (Actually there's no "can" about it -- it has to.)

Mississippi State, like most D1 schools, has a higher % of women enrolled than men, so it has more women on athletic scholarship than men.

If men don't like it, we should get our act together and go to college more.

So if we have more men at miss state than women, we'll get more baseball scholarships?

[Bully13]

Remember that Title IX does NOT require scholarships to be equal, but for the male/female ratio of athletic scholarships to mirror that of the schools. If the school it 60-40 men women, then it can have 60% of its athletic scholarships go to men. (Actually there's no "can" about it -- it has to.)

Mississippi State, like most D1 schools, has a higher % of women enrolled than men, so it has more women on athletic scholarship than men.

If men don't like it, we should get our act together and go to college more.

another genius who puts more weight into women's rowing than baseball. still includes football schollies. adress that please if you have the time to do so.

[Homedawg]

Remember that Title IX does NOT require scholarships to be equal, but for the male/female ratio of athletic scholarships to mirror that of the schools. If the school it 60-40 men women, then it can have 60% of its athletic scholarships go to men. (Actually there's no "can" about it -- it has to.)

Mississippi State, like most D1 schools, has a higher % of women enrolled than men, so it has more women on athletic scholarship than men.

If men don't like it, we should get our act together and go to college more.

There is more than one way to comply w title 9. However, your "talk" about men getting there act together doesn't get one more baseball scholarship or men's tennis or men's golf. We could be 98 men and 2% women and baseball wouldn't get more than 11.7. So you lost me.

[Quaoarsking]

If you're just mad about the 11.7 limit in baseball, blame the NCAA, not Title IX. The NCAA could allow baseball to have 25 full scholarships without any schools violating Title IX, as long as the schools kept their total athletic scholarships at the right ratio. Similarly, repealing Title IX (or modifying it to exclude football) wouldn't affect the 11.7 rule unless the NCAA allowed it.

If we were 98% men and 2% women, we could have men's soccer, men's lacrosse, men's rugby, etc., which would probably attract fan/student interest despite not turning a profit (IE, would be subsidized by the football team like a handout).

[Homedawg]

J
If you're just mad about the 11.7 limit in baseball, blame the NCAA, not Title IX. The NCAA could allow baseball to have 25 full scholarships without any schools violating Title IX, as long as the schools kept their total athletic scholarships at the right ratio. Similarly, repealing Title IX (or modifying it to exclude football) wouldn't affect the 11.7 rule unless the NCAA allowed it.

If we were 98% men and 2% women, we could have men's soccer, men's lacrosse, men's rugby, etc., which would probably attract fan/student interest despite not turning a profit (IE, would be subsidized by the football team like a handout).

Um, the reason the scholarship were cut by ten percent across the board for men's athletics were because of title 9. In the hope to make it easier to make schools comply. Oh and for your point about no revenue and no interest we have multiple men's and women's sport that already do that so what's your point?

[Lumpy Chucklelips]

If the NCAA came out tomorrow and changed its policy, which of you would be willing to give up 5 scholarships in football to add 5 in baseball?

I think it would benefit both sports for us.

[Quaoarsking]

Um, the reason the scholarship were cut by ten percent across the board for men's athletics were because of title 9. In the hope to make it easier to make schools comply.
All I'm saying is that if people/schools/athletic departments are mad about the 11.7 scholarships, they should rail on the NCAA instead of Title IX. I strongly support allowing baseball to have 25 full scholarships and letting each individual school take its own path to Title IX compliance. All it would take to make that a reality is the NCAA allowing it; it wouldn't need any kind of law change or exemption, as people often imply on threads like these.


Oh and for your point about no revenue and no interest we have multiple men's and women's sport that already do that so what's your point?
Our dear friend was whining on the other thread about the idea of scholarships going to women's rowing as just being a diabolical handout, so I felt the need to point out that at almost every school, baseball is a "handout sport" too.

[bluelightstar]

http://espn.go.com/espnw/title-ix/article/7959799/the-silent-enemy-men-sports

Worth the read.

[maroonmania]

All I'm saying is that if people/schools/athletic departments are mad about the 11.7 scholarships, they should rail on the NCAA instead of Title IX. I strongly support allowing baseball to have 25 full scholarships and letting each individual school take its own path to Title IX compliance. All it would take to make that a reality is the NCAA allowing it; it wouldn't need any kind of law change or exemption, as people often imply on threads like these.


Our dear friend was whining on the other thread about the idea of scholarships going to women's rowing as just being a diabolical handout, so I felt the need to point out that at almost every school, baseball is a "handout sport" too.

Yep, that's why it was asinine in the other thread for people to bitch about how much we are paying our women's basketball coach in comparison to how men's baseball is treated. One has nothing to do with the other. Right now you could have all volunteer coaches for women's sports and it wouldn't give baseball an extra dime because of the NCAA stance on college baseball at least not in terms of scholarships.