om spring game thoughts?

[Leroy Jenkins]

I know its a scrimmage, still didnt look good on either side really. Yes they were missing some key guys. Oh, the QB spot is MGKs to lose.

[Coach34]

I had no idea they had theirs today

[Dawgface]

I didn't either.

[Jacksondevildog]

I had no idea they had theirs today

Neither did their fans or quarterbacks.

[Maroonthirteen]

https://youtu.be/ynbqA7tS4eg

[woozman]

I didn't realize it either until I saw the paper this morning. QBs had a rough day according to the Sun Herald. They combined to go 23-53, ouch...

[Howboutdemdogs]

Columbus Dispatch stated as a lead off sentence about a 43 yard tight spiral for a touchdown by Kelly. I figured that this would be something that you would see the Clarion Ledger. That was as far as I read, because I really don't care to read any OM hype stories.

[I seen it dawg]

Who?

[BiscuitEater]

I know its a scrimmage, still didnt look good on either side really. Yes they were missing some key guys. Oh, the QB spot is MGKs to lose.

Bucky .. he says Ryan 'has the lead.'

Ryan was 5 of 16 .. 31% .. with an int

I also agree with you. Bucky has gone 'all in' on Kelly. Knowing that Chad is a 'ticking time bomb' has to keep him awake at night.

[mic]

I spoke with a high school coach at the scrimmage yesterday... I'm not sure if he is pro OM or MSU... I have an idea tho.. We were talking about our QB situation , he said In his opinion Damian Williams would be the starter at OM if the season started this week.. No knock against Damian at all , shows how far we have come in QB recruiting past few years..

[BulldogBear]

I didn't realize it either until I saw the paper this morning. QBs had a rough day according to the Sun Herald. They combined to go 23-53, ouch...



Doesn't matter. Anyone with the sense God gave a cornflower seed can clearly see Ole Miss is going to win the national championship this year (or enter any future season you wish)***

[chef dixon]

They are going to be in trouble at the QB position. All of those guys didn't look ready and their running game looked about the same if not worse because of their O-line depth. I'm starting to think Freeze's gimmick system just puts a lot of pressure on the QB to control tempo, make quick reads, and take care of the football. It probably limits each of their QB's strengths in the end. Freeze needs to adapt his system to his guys instead of the other way around, and it wouldn't hurt to learn how to run the football consistently to make it easier for them.

[Rayburn8]

Bucky .. he says Ryan 'has the lead.'

Ryan was 5 of 16 .. 31% .. with an int

I also agree with you. Bucky has gone 'all in' on Kelly. Knowing that Chad is a 'ticking time bomb' has to keep him awake at night.

Funny you say that since in his press conference he said something along the lines of that he stays up at night worrying and praying that his players don't make a dumb decision.

[Todd4State]

Bucky .. he says Ryan 'has the lead.'

Ryan was 5 of 16 .. 31% .. with an int
I also agree with you. Bucky has gone 'all in' on Kelly. Knowing that Chad is a 'ticking time bomb' has to keep him awake at night.


This is Nathan Stanley all over again. The difference is it's Freeze trying to keep a prominent Ole Miss booster happy.

They have too much "invested" in Kelly to not make him the starter. Not to mention the fact that he will probably go off if he isn't named the starter.

[Todd4State]

They are going to be in trouble at the QB position. All of those guys didn't look ready and their running game looked about the same if not worse because of their O-line depth. I'm starting to think Freeze's gimmick system just puts a lot of pressure on the QB to control tempo, make quick reads, and take care of the football. It probably limits each of their QB's strengths in the end. Freeze needs to adapt his system to his guys instead of the other way around, and it wouldn't hurt to learn how to run the football consistently to make it easier for them.


No offense works when you don't have a QB, RB, or o-line.

That offense probably does put a lot of pressure on a QB that has trouble thinking quickly. I imagine that sometimes those offenses go so fast that they end up screwing something up because they aren't quite set.

[Todd4State]

Funny you say that since in his press conference he said something along the lines of that he stays up at night worrying and praying that his players don't make a dumb decision.

If Kelly was on my team and I was the coach I would stay up at night too- the guy is just erratic from a behavior standpoint. The guy has been kicked off of at least two teams that I can think of going back to high school. And if a high school kicks off a D-I prospect QB who I'm guessing was their best player on the team- you know it had to be bad.

[HoopsCoach21]

And if a high school kicks off a D-I prospect QB who I'm guessing was their best player on the team- you know it had to be bad.

One of the biggest reasons I buy into Fitzgerald being our next starter after Dak. I think Staley is very talented but the fact he got kicked off his high school team threw up a huge red flag for me. Don't have all the info and Staley may turn out to be an all American but I'm glad we decided to sign 2 QBs that year just in case.

[Rayburn8]

One of the biggest reasons I buy into Fitzgerald being our next starter after Dak. I think Staley is very talented but the fact he got kicked off his high school team threw up a huge red flag for me. Don't have all the info and Staley may turn out to be an all American but I'm glad we decided to sign 2 QBs that year just in case.

Staley was kicked for audibling to much. That is the reason in a nut shell. The coach thought Staley audibled to much, they got in a disagreement and he was kicked off the team.

[sandwolf]

Staley was kicked for audibling to much. That is the reason in a nut shell. The coach thought Staley audibled to much, they got in a disagreement and he was kicked off the team.

Haha, it was definitely the 'disagreement' that got him kicked off the team.....not the audibles.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Kelly is going to be the starter there- period. That decision was made the second they took his commitment. He may not be the starter the very first game of the season(ala Nathan Stanley/Masoli), but MGK will be the starting QB when it's all said and done. Everyone knows it.

All this laughable Buchanan nonsense is nothing more than politicking.

[Todd4State]

They put all their eggs in Kelly's basket long before he publicly committed.

[Political Hack]

So they get to piss off NFL royalty or some life time boosters with their name on campus buildings.

Sounds like fun.

[confucius say]

Freeze better be careful with this. One thing is for sure, players will know who the best qb is, and if that guy doesn't play, you'll def have locker room problems. On the flip side, if mgk doesn't play, you'll likely have locker room problems due to his attitude. That's why you don't sign him unless you know he is the best qb, and then you hope he doesn't go all mgk and get arrested, again.

[Big4Dawg]

Kelly is going to be the starter there- period. That decision was made the second they took his commitment. He may not be the starter the very first game of the season(ala Nathan Stanley/Masoli), but MGK will be the starting QB when it's all said and done. Everyone knows it.

All this laughable Buchanan nonsense is nothing more than politicking.

And that they don't want Buchanan to transfer.

[TheRef]

At this rate, if I'm a HS quarterback being recruited by OM, my first question would be "What guarantee do I have that you won't recruit a JUCO quarterback from under me"

[jumbo]

their D is going to be one of the best in the country. barring major injury issues they will win at least 8. probably 9 or 10.

[ShotgunDawg]

At this rate, if I'm a HS quarterback being recruited by OM, my first question would be "What guarantee do I have that you won't recruit a JUCO quarterback from under me"

This isn't the correct question. There is no guarantee that any school won't recruit a JUCO QB if the guy on campus can't get it done. If both Fitz and Staley stunk, I would hope Mullen would recruit a JUCO guy.

The question that any high school QB should be asking about OM is: Why are they having to go get a JUCO when they have recruited fairly well, from a star standpoint, at teh QB position?

[ShotgunDawg]

their D is going to be one of the best in the country. barring major injury issues they will win at least 8. probably 9 or 10.

Hmmmm. I don't agree. 8 is likely, 9 or 10 is unlikely.

Their defense was one of the best in the country last year, but they also had a senior, extremely experienced QB to go along with it.

Is their much room for improvement by their defense?

Is their offense going to be better than last year with a first year starter?

@ Bama, @ Florida, @ Auburn, @ MSU, how many of those 4 do they win & do they go undefeated at home? Their schedule is significantly tougher this year than last

[HancockCountyDog]

@ Bama, @ Florida, @ Auburn, @ MSU, how many of those 4 do they win & do they go undefeated at home? Their schedule is significantly tougher this year than last

They will beat Florida. They are terrible. They have 7 OL on scholarship and apparently none have started an SEC game.

Its a trainwreck on offense and they are going to run a version of Bama's pro style attack. I just don't see it ending well in his first year.

[Liverpooldawg]

It's hard to really tell much about the UM offense from their spring game. Their defense IS good and they had ton of offensive linemen out. Also, it was a SPRING game. We will see. That being said; I don't see them as being as good as last year and with the schedule they would struggle to win as many as they did last year if they were.

[msstate7]

They will beat Florida. They are terrible. They have 7 OL on scholarship and apparently none have started an SEC game.

Its a trainwreck on offense and they are going to run a version of Bama's pro style attack. I just don't see it ending well in his first year.

Beware of first year coaches

[mic]

their D is going to be one of the best in the country. barring major injury issues they will win at least 8. probably 9 or 10.

Lets see.
4 non conference and vandy .. For sure 5
@fla
@bama
@aub
@msu
They better win one of those

Lsu
Ark
Texas am

Show me where 10 win come from
They could easily go 7-5

[Political Hack]

They won't beat Arkansas or LSU this year IMO. They've got a better shot of beating Florida or us in a rivalry game away.

I see four losses easy.

[HancockCountyDog]

They won't beat Arkansas or LSU this year IMO. They've got a better shot of beating Florida or us in a rivalry game away.

I see four losses easy.

I don't understand the belief in LSU. They still have NO QB. They lost talent on the OL, and also some talented players in their front seven.

I don't expect them to be terrible - but I see another 8-9 win season in Baton Rouge, which is terrible for LSU.

[Political Hack]

I don't understand the belief in LSU. They still have NO QB. They lost talent on the OL, and also some talented players in their front seven.

I don't expect them to be terrible - but I see another 8-9 win season in Baton Rouge, which is terrible for LSU.

LSU could pull 11 students out of the stands and have a good defense. Their defense is stacked. They may be the only team in the West that can put three starring LBs on the field that are better than ours. Garrett has to be a stud for them for that to be true, but I don't see why he wouldn't be. They lost some names, but they didn't lose a lot of players overall. They'll probably be a lot better defensively IMO.

You or I could play QB on their team right now. Dural, Dupree, Quinn, Fournette??? There's not a better four man combo in the SEC IMO. Plus, the QB wisperer that turned Mett into an NFL QB has had 2 years to work with Brandon Harris and longer than that with Jennings. I think they have 3 of their 5 starting OL back too, but I'm not looking it up. I know all of their specialist return though. Kickers, return men, even the long snapper and holder just for good measure.

I think they're a dark horse candidate to win it all. I'm glad we get them early and think we can beat them at home, but I also see them getting on a win streak at some point during the season that they're not going to come off of.

[HancockCountyDog]

LSU could pull 11 students out of the stands and have a good defense. Their defense is stacked. They may be the only team in the West that can put three starring LBs on the field that are better than ours. Garrett has to be a stud for them for that to be true, but I don't see why he wouldn't be. They lost some names, but they didn't lose a lot of players overall. They'll probably be a lot better defensively IMO.

You or I could play QB on their team right now. Dural, Dupree, Quinn, Fournette??? There's not a better four man combo in the SEC IMO. Plus, the QB wisperer that turned Mett into an NFL QB has had 2 years to work with Brandon Harris and longer than that with Jennings. I think they have 3 of their 5 starting OL back too, but I'm not looking it up. I know all of their specialist return though. Kickers, return men, even the long snapper and holder just for good measure.

I think they're a dark horse candidate to win it all. I'm glad we get them early and think we can beat them at home, but I also see them getting on a win streak at some point during the season that they're not going to come off of.

I just don't see the offense getting that much better. I agree the LB's are legit, and the secondary will always be good, but I just see some problems on the OL and DL - and with Miles, their offense will always be worse than their talent should allow.

Also, you are forgetting they are going from Chavis to O/Steele. That is a major defensive downgrade in my opinion.

It should be interesting.

[Political Hack]

I just don't see the offense getting that much better. I agree the LB's are legit, and the secondary will always be good, but I just see some problems on the OL and DL - and with Miles, their offense will always be worse than their talent should allow.

Also, you are forgetting they are going from Chavis to O/Steele. That is a major defensive downgrade in my opinion.

It should be interesting.

I agree that the defensive calls could see a drop off, but I actually think O is a great DL coach. I expect him to find some beasts down in the swamp.

I think their OL will be fine. They get the brains back with Pocic (if I'm spelling that right) and will be very good up the middle & at RT.

I also think Harris wins the QB battle and they become INCREDIBLY difficult to match up with if he's in. He will kill it on a bootleg, but you have to gang tackle Fournette and you can't single cover Dupre or Dural. Meanwhile you've got Wes Welker, aka Quinn, chewing up yards down the middle of the field. Not to mention they get about 5 TEs back. They're going to be good, and deep, across the entire offense. You look at their roster and it's hard to find a weakness. They're not trying to decide who starts right now, they're trying to see who doesn't. That's a big difference. It will take them some time to hit a rhythm, but when they do, that's it.

[HancockCountyDog]

I agree that the defensive calls could see a drop off, but I actually think O is a great DL coach. I expect him to find some beasts down in the swamp.

I think their OL will be fine. They get the brains back with Pocic (if I'm spelling that right) and will be very good up the middle & at RT.

I also think Harris wins the QB battle and they become INCREDIBLY difficult to match up with if he's in. He will kill it on a bootleg, but you have to gang tackle Fournette and you can't single cover Dupre or Dural. Meanwhile you've got Wes Welker, aka Quinn, chewing up yards down the middle of the field. Not to mention they get about 5 TEs back. They're going to be good, and deep, across the entire offense. You look at their roster and it's hard to find a weakness. They're not trying to decide who starts right now, they're trying to see who doesn't. That's a big difference. It will take them some time to hit a rhythm, but when they do, that's it.

The problem is that Miles is going to put Harris under center, which is like putting Russell in the spread option attack. Its a terrible fit. Miles will try and pound the ball with Fournette in an I formation attack.

If you put LSU offensive players with AU's coaches, I would completely agree with you. They won't, and therefore they will not maximize their talent.

[FlabLoser]

At this rate, if I'm a HS quarterback being recruited by OM, my first question would be "What guarantee do I have that you won't recruit a JUCO quarterback from under me"

Wrong. The question is "why don't any of your high school QB signees get to be the guy?"

[Political Hack]

this deserves a new thread:

"Why do Juco coaches have to develop your QBs?"

[GreenheadDawg]

their D is going to be one of the best in the country. barring major injury issues they will win at least 8. probably 9 or 10.

Sorry but I'm not convinced their defense will be as good as last year. Their d-line will be one of the best in the country but overall I think they take a step back after the talent and experience they lost this year

[Bothrops]

I spoke with a high school coach at the scrimmage yesterday... I'm not sure if he is pro OM or MSU... I have an idea tho.. We were talking about our QB situation , he said In his opinion Damian Williams would be the starter at OM if the season started this week.. No knock against Damian at all , shows how far we have come in QB recruiting past few years..

There's no question in my mind Damian Williams would be their starter going into the season. May not be close.

[Coach34]

Lets see.
4 non conference and vandy .. For sure 5
@fla
@bama
@aub
@msu
They better win one of those

Lsu
Ark
Texas am

Show me where 10 win come from
They could easily go 7-5

@Bama, @Auburn, @State- 3 sure losses

@Fla, A&M, UPig, LSU- they may win all 4- but its going to take everything they have plus some luck to win all 4 of them

[Bothrops]

They ain't beating UPig. Guaranteed

[Todd4State]

I think they may be using Buchanan as a pawn. They're probably getting hammered in QB recruiting by people talking about how they haven't had a QB that they actually developed since Spurlock. I wouldn't be shocked if they do what they did with Nathan Stanley- start Buchanan against UT-Martin and Memphis and people like that- and then bring in Kelly.

[Todd4State]

Sorry but I'm not convinced their defense will be as good as last year. Their d-line will be one of the best in the country but overall I think they take a step back after the talent and experience they lost this year

I can't see their secondary being as good without Golson and Prewitt. How many INT's did Golson have? Like 8 or something ridiculous like that? And I thought I heard someone say that they were moving CJ Johnson from DE to MLB. So, unless he loses like 20 pounds, they have an overweight MLB.

[gravedigger]

Defense will get you 4 noncon wins and 4 conference wins. I will not get you past that without a top 6-7 offense.

[gravedigger]

I think they may be using Buchanan as a pawn. They're probably getting hammered in QB recruiting by people talking about how they haven't had a QB that they actually developed since Spurlock. I wouldn't be shocked if they do what they did with Nathan Stanley- start Buchanan against UT-Martin and Memphis and people like that- and then bring in Kelly.

Agreed. Buchannan is a pawn. He's a silid backup but i cannot seeing them move the ball on sustained drives without a solid downfield passer. Kelly is that guy. But i think he is a bit too much of a gambler. That will work in the last 5 min of a game with their receivers. But it wont keep u in the game for the first 55 min

[RougeDawg]

Sorry but I'm not convinced their defense will be as good as last year. Their d-line will be one of the best in the country but overall I think they take a step back after the talent and experience they lost this year

Let's not forget how bad a great defense can look when complemented by an inept offense. I see the 2015 Bear offense forcing the defense to play more snaps than they did in 2014. Even the greatest defense can look bad when worn down.

[RougeDawg]

Wait, The Bears aren't poised for a run at the playoffs? I mean with that top 5 recruiting class ESPN drools over, shouldn't they be at minimum, a 5:1 favorite to win it all? Since crootin rankings are the sole predictor of success.

[spiral]

Defense certainly wins you games but you're talking about the Bears who are the only team I recall ever having the number 1 defense in the country (1993) and still having a losing record (5-6).