Rays players say .....

[notsofarawaydawg]

Commercial Dispatch Article (http://www.cdispatch.com/sports/article.asp?aid=40811)

[Coach34]

Commercial Dispatch Article (http://www.cdispatch.com/sports/article.asp?aid=40811)


"I've never had any situation at all from the administration that they are displeased with where we are at this point in time," Ray said. "I know everybody wants to be more on the fast track. I'm sure the administration wants the same thing, but I think those guys believe in me."


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[Ifyouonlyknew]

"I've never had any situation at all from the administration that they are displeased with where we are at this point in time," Ray said. "I know everybody wants to be more on the fast track. I'm sure the administration wants the same thing, but I think those guys believe in me."


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I don't think he could say anything else but that. Even if Stricklin or Keenum gave him an ultimatum on next year no way he'd say that in public. Also if he said Stricklin told me I need to be vastly improved next year then most fans would then kill Stricklin for giving him another year & not pulling the plug now. Sound like a pretty standard vote of confidence speech that all bosses give. Whether they mean it or plotting to fire you in 2 weeks.

[thf24]

Sounds like the players are still genuinely buying in, which obviously remains a necessity if Ray is ever going to turn the corner.

"Ray figures to return four starters, including former Starkville High School standout Gavin Ware, MSU's leading rebounder, junior Fred Thomas, Sword, and Ready. Houston and freshman post players Oliver Black and Fallou Ndoye also are expected to be back."

No mention of Dunlap...

[Coach34]

I don't think he could say anything else but that. Even if Stricklin or Keenum gave him an ultimatum on next year no way he'd say that in public. Also if he said Stricklin told me I need to be vastly improved next year then most fans would then kill Stricklin for giving him another year & not pulling the plug now. Sound like a pretty standard vote of confidence speech that all bosses give. Whether they mean it or plotting to fire you in 2 weeks.Well he obviously has to do something next year- and he needs to find something better to spare Ware than Endo

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Well he obviously has to do something next year- and he needs to find something better to spare Ware than Endo

I agree with all of that.

[MadDawg]

"I've never had any situation at all from the administration that they are displeased with where we are at this point in time," Ray said. "I know everybody wants to be more on the fast track. I'm sure the administration wants the same thing, but I think those guys believe in me."


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Damn. That is interesting. And incredibly disappointing. I read that as "we really don't care about basketball anymore. Ask me about the Scott Field expansion."

[Goat from MSU]

This article smells to high heaven like it is trying to dumb down the masses. This was it let's keep them happy article .Just watch today's games we are not even close . Ray = Crooms ...
Damn. That is interesting. And incredibly disappointing. I read that as "we really don't care about basketball anymore. Ask me about the Scott Field expansion."

[SouthMsDawg]

Is there any way that we can get ENDO to transfer somewhere else to free up room for a JUCO big?

[quickstrike2]

I am concerned somebody will steal this man away from us. With those quotes there, I feel like our basketball program is on the way to big things. The administration has never sounded displeased and he assumes they would like to be on a faster track like our petty fans, but in the end he doesn't give a damn cause he is believed in to do something. Although we aren't over surely what that something is. Somewhere in this 10 year plan, some goals will be defined, just hadn't got there yet.******

[msstate7]

Is there any way that we can get ENDO to transfer somewhere else to free up room for a JUCO big?

Ndoye has been less than stellar, but he's a freshman. I think you guys are judging too quickly. If he hasn't shown anything after next season, he probably should move along

[Coach34]

Redshirt Freshman

[MadDawg]

I am concerned somebody will steal this man away from us. With those quotes there, I feel like our basketball program is on the way to big things. The administration has never sounded displeased and he assumes they would like to be on a faster track like our petty fans, but in the end he doesn't give a damn cause he is believed in to do something. Although we aren't over surely what that something is. Somewhere in this 10 year plan, some goals will be defined, just hadn't got there yet.******

We will set some goals sometime in 2018.

[msstate7]

Redshirt Freshman

I don't think he's been in playing basketball very long.

Hopefully he can gain some weight this offseason

[maroonmania]

We will set some goals sometime in 2018.

Nah, apparently Ray is on the same 10 year plan as Croom had with LT. So we should get results around 2022.

[sorrydog]

Yeah but how old is he? I bet his true age would be more telling than his classification.
There's no upside.

[quickstrike2]

I'm not sure Ray or the administration has any goals for basketball. I like Scott, but he inherited two coaches in football and baseball that make no bones about where they want to take a program. Ray just seems to be happy go lucky about the whole deal and the administration just lets it play out, because they can in the other two big sports.

[DanDority]

Well he obviously has to do something next year- and he needs to find something better to spare Ware than Endo

I could be wrong but he maybe worse than big John or big feces, I know he was only a freshmens but dang.

[tcdog70]

Yeah but how old is he? I bet his true age would be more telling than his classification.
There's no upside.

Here is what is telling--He did not start for His highschool team most games. Can He play in the SEC? Don't think so

[msstate7]

Here is what is telling--He did not start for His highschool team most games. Can He play in the SEC? Don't think so

You left out he played at findley prep and that 8 players on that team signed with div 1 teams.

In no way am I saying he'll be this good, but here goes...

Charles Rhodes freshman year -- 2.9 pts 1.9 rebs

Ndoye -- 2.1 pts 1.8 rebs

Believe it or not, players do improve sometimes with age and physical maturity

[YazooDawg23]

Charles Rhodes was a skilled, athletic big. Ndoye does not do one thing well on the basketball court. Bad miss by Ray.

[thf24]

I'm not sure Ray or the administration has any goals for basketball. I like Scott, but he inherited two coaches in football and baseball that make no bones about where they want to take a program. Ray just seems to be happy go lucky about the whole deal and the administration just lets it play out, because they can in the other two big sports.

People were saying October before last that Mullen had gotten complacent and was just happy to be here. It's easy to speculate and make assumptions about people's thoughts and motivations when things aren't going well. Whether he's capable of fielding a winning product or not in the end, I highly doubt Ray is content with where he is right now, and I absolutely guarantee you that Stricklin isn't thinking and acting on any of the ridiculous ideas that people have been throwing around on here.

[thf24]

Here is what is telling--He did not start for His highschool team most games. Can He play in the SEC? Don't think so

To his credit it's one of the top high school teams in the nation and quite a few of those players have or will go on to play D1 basketball as well, but, yeah, that fact doesn't bode well for his potential.

[DanDority]

You left out he played at findley prep and that 8 players on that team signed with div 1 teams.

In no way am I saying he'll be this good, but here goes...

Charles Rhodes freshman year -- 2.9 pts 1.9 rebs

Ndoye -- 2.1 pts 1.8 rebs

Believe it or not, players do improve sometimes with age and physical maturity

Just how old is the guy? I'm sure he's not as old John was.

[msstate7]

Just how old is the guy? I'm sure he's not as old John was.

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[Coach34]

The problem with Endo is that he is a 3 year project at a time when we need immediate help

[YazooDawg23]

Ndoye could take two years off and work everyday with Jerry West and Hakeem Olajuwon and he would still suck. The key is recruiting players that don't suck. Recruiting might be trending in the right direction. We'll see.

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Here is what is telling--He did not start for His highschool team most games. Can He play in the SEC? Don't think so

Good lord. I think we need to go ahead and pull the trigger on ray, but I'm not sure I've evre seen a more blatantly misleading statement. Not that I'm surprised, given the context.

[DanDority]

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Then he will not improve! He has hit his celling

[Quaoarsking]

I think it's apparent from this article that Daniels probably isn't going anywhere.

[tcdog70]

Good lord. I think we need to go ahead and pull the trigger on ray, but I'm not sure I've evre seen a more blatantly misleading statement. Not that I'm surprised, given the context.

What is misleading, it is a fact Endo did not start for his Highschool team. He has red shirted and he still is not a SEC player. And I really don't give as shit if you are surprised or not.

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

What is misleading, it is a fact Endo did not start for his Highschool team. He has red shirted and he still is not a SEC player. And I really don't give as shit if you are surprised or not.

It's misleading because you stated that not starting for Findley Prep "most" of the time is an indictment of sucking at basketball. Nevermind that the players on that roster were all recruited, with all but apparently 2 signing with D1 schools. It's misleading because you knew that when you posted it and decided to post something blatantly misleading anyway just to tear down one of our players. Here are his teammates with their college playing choices:

Nigel Williams-Goss - Wash.
Dion Wade - Aub (xfer to Miami)
Stanford Robinson - Indiana
Lucas Antunez - North Idaho
Allerik Freeman - Kansas
Christian Wood - UNLV
Braian Angola - North Idaho
Gavin Schilling - Mich. State
Benas Griciunas - Aub.
Fallou Ndoye - MSU
Jalen Poyser - UNLV
Kingsley Okoroh - Cal.

Roster came from http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/findlay-prep-pilot-%28henderson,nv%29/basketball-winter-12-13/roster.htm

[tcdog70]

It's misleading because you stated that not starting for Findley Prep "most" of the time is an indictment of sucking at basketball. Nevermind that the players on that roster were all recruited, with all but apparently 2 signing with D1 schools. It's misleading because you knew that when you posted it and decided to post something blatantly misleading anyway just to tear down one of our players. Here are his teammates with their college playing choices:

Nigel Williams-Goss - Wash.
Dion Wade - Aub (xfer to Miami)
Stanford Robinson - Indiana
Lucas Antunez - North Idaho
Allerik Freeman - Kansas
Christian Wood - UNLV
Braian Angola - North Idaho
Gavin Schilling - Mich. State
Benas Griciunas - Aub.
Fallou Ndoye - MSU
Jalen Poyser - UNLV
Kingsley Okoroh - Cal.

Roster came from http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/findlay-prep-pilot-%28henderson,nv%29/basketball-winter-12-13/roster.htm



if you can't start in High School--(any High School) then your odds of coming into the SEC and being worth a shit are very low.