Alabama Game 3 thread

[Smitty]

Heck
Brown
Rea
Hump
Squirrel
Robson
Holland
Lovelady
Vickerson

[chef dixon]

8 runs today!

[Bucky Dog]

Hey Smitty have we had the exact same lineup in any two games this year or is this Cohen doing his thing?

[AROB44]

How soon until this board has another meltdown? My guess is by the 3rd inning.

[It_Could_Happen]

If there is a must win game all year, this is it. If we lose today it's time to hit the panic button.

[MaxedOutMaroon]

If there is a must win game all year, this is it. If we lose today it's time to hit the panic button.

Nah, but it's a necessary win. Our problem has been closing pitching and decision making hitting. When we figure those out we'll be fine. It's a long season

[chef dixon]

We got the lucky "Walk-off" blacks on today

[messageboardsuperhero]

Rea and Hump missed a bunch of hittable fastballs that inning.

[Saltydog]

loaded again. I just don't get it. I know we aren't hitting shit lately but this goes beyond ridiculous.......

[Ralph]

We got the lucky "Walk-off" blacks on today

The ol classic maroon, black and whites**

[Smitty]

Take the good with the bad there....

[TopDog58]

How are our guys ever supposed to get a quality at bat or a rhythm at the plate when the coach has them attempt a bunt with the bases loaded and nobody out?

[chef dixon]

Take the good with the bad there....

Couldn't have described that inning better.

[Saltydog]

That's unacceptable for someone with his experience.

[messageboardsuperhero]

0-4 w/ RISP through 2 innings today... Holland prevents us from getting another shot at it. Up 2-0 but it should be more.

[Irondawg]

It it my imagination or just focusing on only our flaws, but do we consistently make more baserunning blunders than most of our opponents. Just seems we consistently make terrible decisions on the basepaths over the years at a pretty frequent rate

[smootness]

0-4 w/ RISP through 2 innings today... Holland prevents us from getting another shot at it. Up 2-0 but it should be more.

This will correct itself. The fact that we're getting baserunners is a good sign. Our luck will eventually turn around in those situations.

[Smitty]

Just let them hit!!!!! ****!!! Let them ****ing just take a normal at bat! You don't have to put something on EVERY TIME the lead off guy gets on dummy.

[smootness]

Ugh.

[Bothrops]

First pitch was a hr.

[starkvegasdawg]

Just let them hit!!!!! ****!!! Let them ****ing just take a normal at bat! You don't have to put something on EVERY TIME the lead off guy gets on dummy.

Someone needs to remind him that back in the 90's the braves had one of the best pitching staffs in the history of MLB and Bobby Cox still rarely bunted except in certain situations.

[shoeless joe]

Would like to have seen out best hitter get an opportunity to just hit rite there.

Rea is seeing the ball really well rite now. That's one reason he struck out earlier...he knew the pitch was off the plate.

[Smitty]

Does Bama bullshit with a lead off guy on? No they hit a double.

[smootness]

Has it not gotten even worse this year? I don't remember Cohen auto-bunting literally every single time the leadoff man gets on like we are this year.

[Smitty]

Rea can scoop it but damn he's got to get that ball. Wtf.

[Smitty]

Has it not gotten even worse this year? I don't remember Cohen auto-bunting literally every single time the leadoff man gets on like we are this year.

2012

[Saltydog]

bases loaded and they don't. I'm afraid we're gonna screw around and lose this series. Cohen has got to be the biggest micromanaging mf'er to ever step foot on a diamond.

[smootness]

Difference in the game so far - we chose to take the bat out of our best hitter's hands. Because baseball, or something.

[smootness]

2012

So why has he gone back to this? Any theories? We definitely have more pop in the lineup this year than we did last year. And our pitching may not be as good overall.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Bama is getting all the ****ing 2 out hits with runners in scoring position. We can't buy a hit with runners in scoring position. That and our shitty bullpen is the difference in this series.

And Tatum hanging that shit on an 0-2 count in inexcusable. You have to understand the situation there.

[DudyDawg]

Bout tired of this team not having the sack to make a play when you need it. Maybe that three seed projection wasn't too far off

[chef dixon]

Tatum's got to waste that pitch on 0-2.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Tatum's made about three bad pitches all day, but they've taken full advantage. We haven't taken advantage of any of their mistakes.

[msstate7]

Atta boy hump

[Smitty]

Holy crap we need runs dumbass. What does tying it in the 4th do???

Cohen severely handcuffs this team. It's disgraceful.

[TopDog58]

Bunt him over!

[msstate7]

Will Robson squeeze?

[Smitty]

So why has he gone back to this? Any theories? We definitely have more pop in the lineup this year than we did last year. And our pitching may not be as good overall.

There is no explanation. He is dumb. Especially with our bullpen.

[smootness]

What. the. crap. are. we. DOING?!?!

Good gosh, that literally only serves to put an out on the board. Doesn't help us in trying to score a run at all.

[smootness]

There is no explanation. He is dumb. Especially with our bullpen.

But he obviously backed off the last couple years, and now he's back to doing it again. So it's not something he just can't keep himself from doing; it's clearly an intentional decision to do that with this team for some reason. And yes, it definitely is dumb, and it's killing us right now.

[TopDog58]

We basically have 2 outs an inning when we bat. Hard to be clutch when the odds are against you EVERY inning

[DudyDawg]

Nice AB by Robson

[msstate7]

Good job holland

[smootness]

So guys don't always hit into DPs with a man at 1st and less than 2 outs?***

Good hitting, Holland. Seems our guys are starting to swing the bats a little better. Now we just need to let them actually swing them, especially the guy who's been swinging them well all year.

[chef dixon]

What the hell was Holland waiting on? That was clearly going to be a single.

[smootness]

Good hit, Lovelady.

It sure would be nice to see what we might have been able to do this inning had we not decided we'd rather start with an out already on the board.

[Smitty]

Again... Good with the bad.

[mparkerfd20]

Btw who are the idiots that claimed speed and taking chances wouldn't work in the SEC again? Bunting for the most part doesn't, but speed kills no matter how you use it.

[messageboardsuperhero]

We have to have the shittiest luck I've ever seen... Vickerson ripped the cover off that ball.

[TopDog58]

Wouldn't have been a DP if he had bunted! Maybe Cohen is a genius

[chef dixon]

Our starting pitching is excellent.

[smootness]

Heck grounds out, which is basically the same as getting on base for us.

[chef dixon]

Damn, Hump HBP. Wanted him to swing away there with 2 outs.

[DudyDawg]

Reid looks like a bean pole when he comes up to bat after Wes haha. Wes fills the TV up

[DudyDawg]

Robson is heating back up.

[DudyDawg]

I like bunting over Robson with no outs. Anything in play he scores from third and almost any ball that the catcher bobbles he scores too.

[Smitty]

Robson double!!!

Holland gets down 3-2 bunting..... Strikeout.

Cohen is dumb. Let them hit.

[DudyDawg]

How in the hell is that strike two. Ball was way outside

[Saltydog]

The K hurts in that situation.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Why in the **** do we insist on bunting after leadoff doubles?!?! We've got the guy on the ropes, and we try and give him an out... We've been knocking this guy around all damn day. Let the players hit.

[messageboardsuperhero]

How in the hell is that strike two. Ball was way outside

This ump is horribly inconsistent, but we shouldn't have even tried to bunt there in the first place.

[Percho]

Robson double!!!

Holland gets down 3-2 bunting..... Strikeout.

Cohen is dumb. Let them hit.


I do not believe there was a strike thrown to him. Those were strikes when that first pitch to the bama hitter a while ago wasn't?

[shoeless joe]

Can't blame holland. Don't like the bunt call there but even so he shoulda been on 1st...that 3-1 called strike was brutal. College umps really do steal money...all the hard work out in during a season and some shitty ump decides a game. At least it's gone both ways, bama was screwed last inning.

[DudyDawg]

This ump is horribly inconsistent, but we shouldn't have even tried to bunt there in the first place.

Ehh. I like the bunt honestly. Robson scores on anything in play and even some that don't get in play like a WP or dropped 3rd strike if he's on third. And Holland has struggled. IF it isn't those two, I agree. Most of the time I don't agree w cohens bunts but I do there.

He gets it down, it's 5-3 on that grounder

[Smitty]

Lead off double. Nothing doing. Cohen meddling strikes again.

[Smitty]

Ehh. I like the bunt honestly. Robson scores on anything in play and even some that don't get in play like a WP or dropped 3rd strike if he's on third. And Holland has struggled. IF it isn't those two, I agree. Most of the time I don't agree w cohens bunts but I do there.

He gets it down, it's 5-3 on that grounder

5-2 was 10-5 pretty quick yesterday.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Thanks for wasting another leadoff double by trying to bunt... Unbelievable.

[DudyDawg]

Lead off double. Nothing doing. Cohen meddling strikes again.

If I was pushing an agenda like you I could easily blame Holland for being incompetent. He executes that, Lovelady's grounder scores Robson easily

[DudyDawg]

5-2 was 10-5 pretty quick yesterday.

Yup. And 4-3 stayed 4-3 pretty quick right there. Wouldn't be if he executed

[messageboardsuperhero]

Ehh. I like the bunt honestly. Robson scores on anything in play and even some that don't get in play like a WP or dropped 3rd strike if he's on third. And Holland has struggled. IF it isn't those two, I agree. Most of the time I don't agree w cohens bunts but I do there.

He gets it down, it's 5-3 on that grounder

Holland has two hits today. We were all over that guy. Should have been swinging away.

[Percho]

Ehh. I like the bunt honestly. Robson scores on anything in play and even some that don't get in play like a WP or dropped 3rd strike if he's on third. And Holland has struggled. IF it isn't those two, I agree. Most of the time I don't agree w cohens bunts but I do there.

He gets it down, it's 5-3 on that grounder

I will say this. If I were committed to bunt and after those two calls, I would have bunted on 3/2.

[chef dixon]

Dig in Tatum!

[DudyDawg]

Holland has two hits today. We were all over that guy. Should have been swinging away.

I disagree. But it doesn't matter now. Tatum doesn't have much longer (103 right now). All up to the pen

[Smitty]

Tie game

Glad we've played for one all day.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Tie game

Glad we've played for one all day.

Bama is taking advantage of everything and getting all the big hits. We're giving up outs after leadoff doubles and choking with RISP.

[messageboardsuperhero]

By the way, that should have been a K the pitch before. He's been calling that all day.

[Original48]

I will say this. If I were committed to bunt and after those two calls, I would have bunted on 3/2.
I'm with Percho here. Was saying this while we were bunting counts full with bases loaded yesterday. If you think your batter has a better chance of moving the runners over/scoring by bunting than swinging away then why stop with two strikes?

[chef dixon]

Damn Spruill looked like he could have at least knocked it down.

[DudyDawg]

When was our last homerun?

[chef dixon]

Rea doubled off this jackass yesterday. Lets go Wes.

[DudyDawg]

Of course it's to dead center

[Smitty]

Gentry in...

[chef dixon]

Where is Mintz?

[Smitty]

Lead off rip

[msstate7]

Where is Paul young?

We've thrown sophomore pitchers back-to-back days over 120 pitches, so I dont wanna hear we're being cautious

[maroonmania]

So how many runs do we give up in the 8th today?

[RougeDawg]

At work and Can't watch today but this thread is hilarious. Cohen gonna cohen. How much longer can people continue to defend his antics and holding back of his teams?

We teach "flick-n-flip" hitting and look like little leaguers trying to bunt. All of these items of concern fall squarely on whoever the f*ck is teaching our hitting. And judging from the slobbering over our "hitting guru" head coach, the main man is cause for our offensive ineptness. Our greatest chance to improve our offense is pray to God our players go play for summer league coaches who actually teach hitting mechanics and bunting technique.

[msstate7]

So how many runs do we give up in the 8th today?

I'll say 1, but it'll be the difference

[Smitty]

Houston in

[chef dixon]

Man our bullpen has not gotten an easy out in about 8 games.

[maroonmania]

At least the Bama coach understands the situation when you play for one run. Can't say the same for ours.

[DudyDawg]

Gentry gets a swing and miss to make it a 3-2 count and we make a pitching change. (Houston). We are about to look either really stupid or really smart

[chef dixon]

I'm sure we are bringing in Houston to throw a quick ball and walk this guy.

[Percho]

What is he suppose to do throw one strike and get him and if not then bring in Ross.

[maroonmania]

Why are we sticking Gentry into a situation like this when he hasn't really pitched all year?

[Smitty]

First pitch wild pitch

[maroonmania]

I'm sure we are bringing in Houston to throw a quick ball and walk this guy.

Hope we get a K but a walk wouldn't be the end of the world. Sets up an inning ending DP.

[maroonmania]

First pitch wild pitch

Wild pitch is pretty much the end of the world.

[Smitty]

5 straight balls for Houston.

We suck.

[TopDog58]

When was our last homerun?

We have no power. We have a punch and judy lineup that may get lucky and walk into a mistake that goes over the wall. Other than that, this team is a bunt, single, and bloop double lineup

[Percho]

bout time for fitts

[DudyDawg]

Great pitching change

[JohnnyQuid]

I like butch but that move is just moronic bringing in new guy with 3 balls. And what the **** are we doing throwing a slider outta the zone when u need a strike anyway. Just *******

[Smitty]

Ross

[Bothrops]

Game was just lost.

[msstate7]

Houston coming in was hilarious. He was awful yesterday and stays consistent.

[chef dixon]

You have to start the 8th with Mintz I think.

[maroonmania]

Our 8th inning meltdowns are starting to become things of legend.

[Saltydog]

nt

[sleepy dawg]

He asked not to be pulled... When Butch started coming out, you could see his lips say "please don't"

[DudyDawg]

Goodness gracious what the hell are we doing. Not every loss is on coaches, but if we don't get out of this, this will squarely be on Cohen and Co. Wtf are we doing

[messageboardsuperhero]

Our pen is something awful.

[BankerDog]

Hey Todd, still think Houston should be the closer? Gave up a 3-run bomb yesterday and throws 5 straight balls today. Him and Hudson need to be regulated to midweek duties.

[DudyDawg]

What a pansy ass baseball team

[sleepy dawg]

mother****er didn't swing at a pitch, and you throw 4 straight out of the zone.

[maroonmania]

This is starting to almost get comical. Since the sacrifice Bama hasn't even had to swing the bat to take the lead.

[messageboardsuperhero]

LOL, didn't even make him take the bat off his shoulder. So non-comptitive. Zero stones.

[sleepy dawg]

that's it. **** me.

[messageboardsuperhero]

What a bunch of non-competitive pussies.

[maroonmania]

Why was Heck so far towards 3rd base on that one. Coming off the bat I thought it was likely a DP ball.

[chef dixon]

What the hell is the infield doing? That's a classic double play ball.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Our pen is such a choke job.

[Smitty]

Ross can't do this new ball. They're hitting .290 against him.

**** playing for one all game!!! **** this pen!!!

[Saltydog]

pad it........He's regressed.....

[BeardoMSU]

Wow, lol...are we getting punked, maybe?

[DudyDawg]

Tired of this team already. What an awful last two weeks. Utterly embarassing.

[msstate7]

Yay, a k! Too bad the damage is done

[maroonmania]

Bama is a lower half West team. For us to make post-season is going to take tremendous improvement from us in a HURRY.

[messageboardsuperhero]

Wyatt just dropped a great stat. In the 7-9 innings off all of our losses this year, we are being outscored 17-2.

When the going gets tough, we lose our balls. So mentally weak.

[DudyDawg]

What the hell is the infield doing? That's a classic double play ball.

For real. What the hell, is that the flash batting? Can't double him up for some reason? Why on earth is the entire infield in with one out.

[maroonmania]

Tired of this team already. What an awful last two weeks. Utterly embarassing.

Well at least the losses aren't bothering me as much now. I'm starting to expect this. My expectations have been WAY lowered from what it was 2 weeks ago.

[JohnnyQuid]

I can't remember us having a pen this bad

[Bucky Dog]

Bama is a lower half West team. For us to make post-season is going to take tremendous improvement from us in a HURRY.

How about lower third?!

[Smitty]

Ross midweek starter

Him and Laster swap roles

[messageboardsuperhero]

Our bullpen this weekend: 3 IP 12 runs allowed.

How ****ing awful is that? We've allowed a combined 7 runs in the other 22 innings.

[maroonmania]

Hey, only 4 runs given up today in the 8th. Much better than the 8 runs we gave up yesterday.

[Bothrops]

This is the second worst product I can remember out of DNF.

[DudyDawg]

Was so pumped for the basketball shit show to end and baseball to warm up. Now we've got shit show round 2. Biggest group of pansy ass players

[maroonmania]

Ross midweek starter

Him and Laster swap roles

Who says Laster would do any better. Outside of Preston Brown and Austin Sexton our entire pitching staff is a cluster f*** right now.

[BankerDog]

Butch needs to figure out his back end of the pen and he needs to do it quick. I'm tired of hearing how much talent we have, because it dang sure doesn't look like we have any coming out of the pen. There are no leaders on this team, at all. These guys have been riding off the success of the 2013 team for too long now. We do not scare anyone at all, like many on this team think they do.

[Saltydog]

micro manager to ever don a uniform. Other than that we're not bad.

[CJDAWG85]

Our bullpen may be sucking, but our lack if clutch hitting is beyond ridiculous. Not one player on this team has any balls.

[RossDawg82]

Bad offense and bad bullpen will lead to a lot of angry and heart broken bulldogs

[maroonmania]

Butch needs to figure out his back end of the pen and he needs to do it quick. I'm tired of hearing how much talent we have, because it dang sure doesn't look like we have any coming out of the pen. There are no leaders on this team, at all. These guys have been riding off the success of the 2013 team for too long now. We do not scare anyone at all, like many on this team think they do.

For one thing he needs to find guys that in crunch time can throw a damn strike. I can live with guys giving up hits but just giving guys free passes with guys all over the bases is ridiculous.

[Saltydog]

nt

[DudyDawg]

Tatum was not bad today. Gave us a great chance to win. Couldn't drop a sack after him on the mound or in the box

[maroonmania]

Offense isn't worth a crap either. 3 up 3 down in the bottom of the 8th.

[Bothrops]

Lsu is gonna break NCAA records when they come to town. I think they could literally beat us 10 out of 10.

[maroonmania]

Next year's recruiting class can't get here soon enough.

[Percho]

One heak of a play by RM

[HancockCountyDog]

I'm as pissed off as anyone else, but everyone needs to step back from the damn ledge.

We are in a slump, everywhere but starting pitching. We will figure it out.

[Mjoelner34]

Next year's recruiting class can't get here soon enough.

I bet they can't wait to get here either so they can learn how to bunt.

[msstate7]

Bunt em over cohen

[Jacksondevildog]

I bet they can't wait to get here either so they can learn how to bunt.

Was thinking the same thing.

[maroonmania]

Freakin' embarrassing that in 2 of the 3 games this weekend we go to the 9th out of the game. Sickening.

[Bucky Dog]

This is where you would like to see a hit to drive in a run and give Wes and Hump a chance to swing for a tie game.

[msstate7]

Bama's dominance over us...

Beat us in perhaps our school's biggest football game ever

Beat us in basketball

Beat us 2 out of 3 in baseball.

We're definetely their b*tch

[Bucky Dog]

Or a pop up to short!***

[Smitty]

Hey, we suck.

We don't have the talent some of us think.

[maroonmania]

Dang Wes, with a 3-1 count and 2 outs why not take a pitch to see if we can get the tying run to the plate. Anyway, its now mercifully over.

[Smitty]

I bet the other coaches laugh at Cohen when he does his meddling ass shit all game long…. And then they really laugh when the starter is taken out.

[Bothrops]

Yeah we are really handicapped and could be the worst team in the league right now.

[Mjoelner34]

I bet the other coaches laugh at Cohen when he does his meddling ass shit all game long…. And then they really laugh when the starter is taken out.

I know LSU is going to laugh when we play for 1 in the 1st or 2nd inning.

[maroonmania]

Hey, we suck.

We don't have the talent some of us think.

Agreed, like someone else said (I think msstate7) we don't really have a top MLB prospect on the team right now that's playing well. Collins and Humphries might be the closest we have but one is not playing and the other hasn't been playing well at all. Just not much star material on this team. Nothing like we had with Renfroe, Frazier, Stratton, Lindgren, Holder etc.

[msstate7]

Hey, we suck.

We don't have the talent some of us think.

I don't think we'll ever get great hitters here for 2 reasons...

1. We'll ruin good hitters

2. Why would good hitters wanna come here? Hate to say it, but I'd choose just about any sec school over us bc other schools let hitters hit

[maroonmania]

I don't think we'll ever get great hitters here for 2 reasons...

1. We'll ruin good hitters

2. Why would good hitters wanna come here? Hate to say it, but I'd choose just about any sec school over us bc other schools let hitters hit

Yep, in a way Ron Polk was too laid back and hands off with what was going on. Cohen seems to be way too much the other way in trying to meddle in every thing with every at bat. Is there no happy medium some where?

[shoeless joe]

We don't have the talent some of us think.

This is accurate.

Realizing this early on helps to be realistic. That said, sexton and Tatum are fine...brown is decent...but a bad bullpen erases all good feelings.

[Treemydawg]

Next year's recruiting class can't get here soon enough.

Next years class won't make a damn bit of difference as long as we keep bunting like we are now.

[Bully13]

we've had top notch recruiting classes the last few years but none of it has been developed. Cohen has proven he does not know how to develop talent.

[starkvegasdawg]

we've had top notch recruiting classes the last few years but none of it has been developed. Cohen has proven he does not know how to develop talent.

Cohen = Bucky?

[Bully13]

Cohen = Bucky?

yea, I would have a hard time arguing against that comparison. "the recruiter" is starting to develop here on the diamond in Starkville.

there's just no excuse for us playing like this though. when it comes to college athletics , no other sport do we have more of an advantage. and we can't get extra base hits against a swac team at home . and we lose to swac teams now and we can't do shit against other team with a pulse.

we suck. and those who think everything is ok, well you suck too.

[RougeDawg]

we've had top notch recruiting classes the last few years but none of it has been developed. Cohen has proven he does not know how to develop talent.

Better watch out. Engie will be all over you for making such comments. He's been awfully quiet this weekend. Guess he's been too busy intently searching the Internet, for a single instance someone bunted a home run, so he can argue for Cohens idiotic hitting approach.

[NCDawg]

we've had top notch recruiting classes the last few years but none of it has been developed. Cohen has proven he does not know how to develop talent.

That's what I don't understand. I read about we've been in the top 10 recruiting for the past several years, and yet, we play like this. Amazing-something is obviously wrong when you bring in top talent and can't win.