Vandy an 11 point Favorite game thread

[Coach34]

Which Roq Johnson shows up?
Which player gets hurt and leaves the game tonight?

[msstate7]

Sword should have his way with vandy's guards. We've got to hope vandy cools off from their last 2 2nd half performances

[Schultzy]

Sword should have his way with vandy's guards. We've got to hope vandy cools off from their last 2 2nd half performances

Get even or make a mint...take the points, easy.

[starkvegasdawg]

Questions for tonight...

How many times do we have to call a time out due to inability to inbound the ball?

+\- 20 turnovers?

How many scoring droughts of at least 5 minutes? What is the longest drought duration?

[Dawg61]

Does Vandy make more 3s than we do fgs tonight?

[msstate7]

Best passing I've seen from us so far tonight

[msstate7]

Ready wtf

[Coach34]

Does Vandy make more 3s than we do fgs tonight?

I'm gonna say no

[bluelightstar]

I wish Craig Sword had been on one of our good teams. He deserves a winning season.

[Political Hack]

oh, I get it. if we only lose by 10, we've really won.

[starkvegasdawg]

Both teams keep hitting threes like this and this is going to be settled in the 90's.

[msstate7]

If anyone doubts us being a better team next season, watch bloodman during his 15 mins tonight and tookie on Saturday. Tookie is a better player right now

[Dawg61]

Wow

[bluelightstar]

You won't often see us shooting like this

[DudyDawg]

We've been on 2 8-0 runs so far

[msstate7]

Ndoye drew a big foul there.

[msstate7]

You won't often see us shooting like this

The shooting is awesome, but the passing is what I'm enjoying.

[msstate7]

Don't settle for jumpshots, sword

[msstate7]

Atta boy bloodman

[smootness]

There's no worse possession for us than a Bloodman 3-pt attempt.

[Coach34]

Bloodman and Endo just suck any life we have out of our offense

[codeDawg]

Where has this team been all year? They move the ball. They get it down low. They are shooting lights out. Nobody's fumbling the ball when somebody looks at them. Completely different team.

[msstate7]

2 fouls or not... Ready has to come in game

[smootness]

Awful by Roquez there. You can't give them a shot at a fast break. Just pick it up.

[msstate7]

Where has this team been all year? They move the ball. They get it down low. They are shooting lights out. Nobody's fumbling the ball when somebody looks at them. Completely different team.

Ready gets 2nd foul and the bottom falls out

[klong-dog]

It's amazing how stitastic our offense gets when Bloodman is running things.

[codeDawg]

Hold on, I'm catching up. Still, these guys are playing like they have a clue for the first time this year.

[smootness]

I really do think Tookie, Weatherspoon, and Zuppardo will help our offense quite a bit next year. We probably won't be an above-average offense or anything, but having two quality PGs and adding a couple of guys who can hit shots will make a huge difference.

[msstate7]

If we could get an early 3rd foul on Siakim, jones, or both, it would go a long way to winning this game

[Coach34]

Tookie will make us alot better simply because he will be better than Bloodman and wont just suck the life out of our offense

[msstate7]

That's what I wanna see sword

[smootness]

One thing Tookie clearly has over Ready is that while they're similar in height, Tookie is much bigger and stronger, which should help him get to the rim and create space more effectively than Ready does.

But again, they're just different players. Ready doesn't really need that in his game as much.

I still say they will see the floor together some.

[msstate7]

What a huge foul on ready... May cost us the game

[msstate7]

Dude, he traveled a mile

[smootness]

Yeah, we need Sword to step up in a huge way now in his absence.

Sword needs to just attack constantly, whether it's always the smartest play or not. We're at our best when he is putting pressure on the defense.

[msstate7]

Get bloodman out

[msstate7]

If we leave bloodman out there, we'll lose badly. Forget foul trouble ray.... Play ready now!

[smootness]

These are some atrocious entry passes by Sword.

And now we're in dangerous territory.

I think you have to put Ready in and just cross your fingers. Better to risk losing him early for the potential reward of not having him miss any time than to ensure he'll be out for a while.

[HailState39110]

Vandys guards can shoot . Our guards drive and hope to get fouled

[smootness]

Yeah, Ready has to go back in. He's too important to us.

I don't like that coaches shoot themselves in the foot with this strategy.

If a guy's going to collect 2 more fouls, he's going to do it in the same amount of time no matter what, so might as well try to maximize that as much as possible. The last 8 minutes of this game won't matter if Ready is out until then.

[Coach34]

We had 29-22 lead when Ready got his foul with 6:30 left in the 1st half

We've played almost 11 mins since with basically no IJ- now down 46-40

[bluelightstar]

One of our patented scoring droughts

[smootness]

I just don't understand why we're doing this. I get that it's conventional wisdom, but if we wait until the normal time to put Ready back in, the game will already be over. We have not shot that way.

[bluelightstar]

Put Ready back in.

[smootness]

One of our patented scoring droughts

It's a crazy coincidence that they always seem to come with Ready out.

[Bucky Dog]

I don't get it now we score 36 in one half and have 4 points 7 minutes into the second half!

[Coach34]

It's a crazy coincidence that they always seem to come with Ready out.

exactly- Endo and Bloodman help bring on those droughts

[Coach34]

I don't get it now we score 36 in one half and have 4 points 7 minutes into the second half!

Bloodman

[HailState39110]

6 minutes now without a point . Luckily Vandy has gone cold too

[Dawg61]

This game got ugly quick

[coastdoglover]

Terrible zone offense no matter who is playing.

[Bucky Dog]

Bloodman
He is not good.

[msstate7]

This game got ugly quick

Down 6. Need ready to play rest of game and sword stop being so careless

[Bucky Dog]

Houston has good upside.

[Quaoarsking]

Don't take Ready out again, no matter what. It's up to him to be a leader and not get 2 more fouls.

[smootness]

We really need guys like Ndoye and Black to grow up in a hurry in the offseason. We are just so weak in defending the post and defensive rebounding. We let other teams' big men to just stand there, grab boards, and go straight up to the basket. Too easy.

[It_Could_Happen]

Roquez gives a half ass effort most of the time and I'm sick of seeing it on the court.

[Dawg61]

I love Houston

[Coach34]

Terrible zone offense no matter who is playing.

thats bullshit. We were playing great till IJ went out

[msstate7]

We really need guys like Ndoye and Black to grow up in a hurry in the offseason. We are just so weak in defending the post and defensive rebounding. We let other teams' big men to just stand there, grab boards, and go straight up to the basket. Too easy.

Weight room

[smootness]

Weight room

That's definitely part of it.

[smootness]

We're outscoring them since Ready has come back. Big surprise.

[Dawg61]

Why does every idiot mispronounce Sword's name

[Dawg61]

Vandy is in foul trouble

[smootness]

Vandy is in foul trouble

We just need to take advantage.

[Dawg61]

Hustle play by Roq

[smootness]

Hustle play by Roq

That was the most Roquez possession ever haha.

Steal, get fouled, only make 1 of 2 FT, get the offensive rebound, turnover.

[Coach34]

12-8 run since IJ returned

[msstate7]

Jones can abuse ware anytime he wants to

[smootness]

Wow, Sword. Come on, guys!

[Dawg61]

Sweet drive by Sword

[msstate7]

Sitting ware when jones was out was a huge mistake

[Coach34]

Jones can abuse ware anytime he wants to

Ware is an undersized Center and too slow to play the 4. He's just a solid SEC basketball player

[smootness]

Ware doesn't use his body enough down low. It's the one advantage he has over most guys, yet he just goes straight up against taller guys.

[DudyDawg]

Everytime I've checked in I've been bored to death within a minute and turned back to NBA or hockey. This is a miserable game to watch

[smootness]

Well, this one is over. Going to Ware late proved to be a terrible strategy.

[smootness]

Everytime I've checked in I've been bored to death within a minute and turned back to NBA or hockey. This is a miserable game to watch

Cool!

[msstate7]

Ware has lost this game down the stretch.

[klong-dog]

lol seriously, wtf are we keep trying to feed Ware? He get's his shit stuffed every single time. If not, he'll turn it over.

[bluelightstar]

Well, looks like yet another loss.

[Bucky Dog]

So why is Ware taking a 18 foot jump shot down 6????!!!!!

[DudyDawg]

Nice slam

[smootness]

I will never understand why we don't just have Sword drive the lane more. Almost every time we get out quick and get it to Sword to drive, something good happens.

[msstate7]

So why is Ware taking a 18 foot jump shot down 6????!!!!!

They haven't stopped sword yet.., let ware shoot us to a loss

[msstate7]

Nice slam

Sword or the nba game?*

[smootness]

We just can not consistently grab defensive rebounds. It's maddening. Roquez just walked up there, didn't even attempt to box out.

[bluelightstar]

This team makes me tired. So annoyed.

[Bucky Dog]

3 guys around the rim and their 1 guy gets the rebound. Why do I torture myself??

[C222]

We had 3 guys in position to get that rebound. They had 1. Terrible.

[Bucky Dog]

F$&K

[Skydawg1]

This team is horrible. And they'll all be back next year WITH their head coach. Thanks Scott.

[DudyDawg]

Sword or the nba game?*

Haha, sword. Wasn't trying to come off as a dick, just saying this hasn't been a very well played game. Either team.

[klong-dog]

lol this is so comical. Everytime we get it down low. It's a circus!

[Bucky Dog]

Zero consistency in our players, in our coaches, from game to game and half to half!!

[Bucky Dog]

That 11 point spread is in danger!!

[smootness]

Our problems are mostly talent-related, but it's not all talent. We definitely need to figure some things out in the offseason.

All of our practicing right now should be spent on some basic things...mostly boxing out.

[RougeDawg]

Are we claiming this as another moral victory because we covered the spread?

[smootness]

Are we claiming this as another moral victory because we covered the spread?

What?

[coastdoglover]

Right, players can only produce in a system they can execute. Defend all you want to, but our zone offense sucks, Ware shooting 3 pointers, 7 minutes being shut out and you are going to go down with the ship looks like and most will agree you deserve what you got.




thats bullshit. We were playing great till IJ went out

[Coach34]

lack of depth is killing this team- especially at PG and Center. Should be much better next year overall and at PG- still some post worries

[C222]

Right, players can only produce in a system they can execute. Defend all you want to, but our zone offense sucks, Ware shooting 3 pointers, 7 minutes being shut out and you are going to go down with the ship looks like and most will agree you deserve what you got.

I agree, zone offense needs some work.

[DudyDawg]

We will have to win a tourney game to get to 14 wins (last year).

[HancockCountyDog]

After Mizzou game, Ray will be 13-41 in the SEC.

Or have one less SEC win than Stans had in 03/04 season.

[msstate7]

What?

He couldn't wait to come post after a loss

[Coach34]

Right, players can only produce in a system they can execute. Defend all you want to, but our zone offense sucks, Ware shooting 3 pointers, 7 minutes being shut out and you are going to go down with the ship looks like and most will agree you deserve what you got.

Go to bed old man. Bloodman's guy was backed off him 7 feet when he had the ball. It's like playing 4 on 5. IJ came back in and we started playing again. Hell, we got the ball inside to Ware- like you want to do- and he got his shit swatted. It's lack of talent- not the offense itself.

[HancockCountyDog]

Gavin Ware shooting a 17 footer with 30 seconds on shot clock down 4, has nothing to do with lack of depth. Total lack of discipline by the coaching staff. Ware might as well have grabbed his crotch and told Ray to **** off, I'm getting mine.

Total lack of control from coaching staff.

[HancockCountyDog]

He couldn't wait to come post after a loss

To be fair, I don't think Rouge invented that move with the MSU basketball program.

[Dawg61]

Baldwin and LaChance are impressive freshman

[chef dixon]

Here's my thing man: If I start off 3/3 from 3 in the first half, there isn't a person in Nashville that is keeping me from jacking up more shots. Sword didn't take another 3 until garbage seconds at the end. I wish he would have been more selfish throughout the game, especially after seeing what happens when he plays it down into the block.

[msstate7]

Baldwin and LaChance are impressive freshman

Is jones an nba prospect? If those 3 are together next season, vandy will be good. I think they knock off OM sat

[bobcat91]

We run the only prevent offense in college bb. The talent and coaching are the worst at MSU in close to 40 years. Not much debate.

[RougeDawg]

What?

Asking if we are adding this one to the moral victory column since some on here have been touting our "almost wins" and "games better than predicted" as proof of improvement. Since we performed slightly better than the odds makers Predicted, I suspect some here will see it as a positive.

I was being sarcastic pointing out the lengths that the Ray supporters on here go to defend him.

[Coach34]

Gavin Ware shooting a 17 footer with 30 seconds on shot clock down 4, has nothing to do with lack of depth. Total lack of discipline by the coaching staff. Ware might as well have grabbed his crotch and told Ray to **** off, I'm getting mine.

Total lack of control from coaching staff.

Ware has been making that shot all year. Was it ideal? No. Every team in the country takes shots they shouldnt at times. He had just had his shit swatted twice in the paint- he was glad to be open

[msstate7]

Here's my thing man: If I start off 3/3 from 3 in the first half, there isn't a person in Nashville that is keeping me from jacking up more shots. Sword didn't take another 3 until garbage seconds at the end. I wish he would have been more selfish throughout the game, especially after seeing what happens when he plays it down into the block.

He has to be more selfish. Sword kept passing to guys that couldn't hurt vandy while he was lighting them up

[chef dixon]

Sword averages 7.3 FG attempts per game. I know that's low because of his early injury but he should be taking upwards of 15 shots per game for this team.

[smootness]

Asking if we are adding this one to the moral victory column since some on here have been touting our "almost wins" and "games better than predicted" as proof of improvement. Since we performed slightly better than the odds makers Predicted, I suspect some here will see it as a positive.

I was being sarcastic pointing out the lengths that the Ray supporters on here go to defend him.

I couldn't care less about all that. We lost a game we absolutely could have won.

There's no doubt things have to improve considerably next year, in the win column.

[RougeDawg]

He couldn't wait to come post after a loss

I've been posting the same point since ray was hired. My bad that you and a few others missed the forest for the trees from the beginning. Ray has been in over his head since his 1st press conference, some just didn't want to believe it.

[Dawg61]

Is jones an nba prospect? If those 3 are together next season, vandy will be good. I think they knock off OM sat

Jones is gone. He's a 1st round pick this year.

[coastdoglover]

Go to bed old man. Bloodman's guy was backed off him 7 feet when he had the ball. It's like playing 4 on 5. IJ came back in and we started playing again. Hell, we got the ball inside to Ware- like you want to do- and he got his shit swatted. It's lack of talent- not the offense itself.

Blame the players now when we lose. Blame the last coach every time we lost. If you don't people can't see through you then you are mentally challenged. I might be older than you but I have forgotten more basketball than you ever have and other than the dribble drive, we are clueless. And by the way, Bloodman didn't play the whole 2nd half and we scored 20 points. I guess that beats scoring 7 but keep on defending. This is as bad as it gets.

[msstate7]

Jones is gone. He's a 1st round pick this year.

Good. He slammed the door on us tonight down the stretch. I've watched a lot of him this year... He's outstanding

[chef dixon]

Blame the players now when we lose. Blame the last coach every time we lost. If you don't people can't see through you then you are mentally challenged. I might be older than you but I have forgotten more basketball than you ever have and other than the dribble drive, we are clueless. And by the way, Bloodman didn't play the whole 2nd half and we scored 20 points. I guess that beats scoring 7 but keep on defending. This is as bad as it gets.

I have to agree at least with coastdoglover that Bloodman is just being used as a scapegoat. We can only dream that him coming in the game is the main reason we suck.

[Coach34]

And by the way, Bloodman didn't play the whole 2nd half and we scored 20 points. I guess that beats scoring 7 but keep on defending. This is as bad as it gets.

Bloodman played the first 6 minutes of the 2nd half- IJ got a foul 15 seconds into the 2nd half and came out. Try watching the game

[msstate7]

I have to agree at least with coastdoglover that Bloodman is just being used as a scapegoat. We can only dream that him coming in the game is the main reason we suck.

We can at worst tread water with all the sec teams (not kentucky) with ready. Sub bloodman and we lose ground with every sec team. Bloodman isn't holding us back from postseason play; but I think with a better backup pg, we're a .500 team

[Coach34]

I have to agree at least with coastdoglover that Bloodman is just being used as a scapegoat. We can only dream that him coming in the game is the main reason we suck.

aGAIN-

We led 29-22 when IJ left with his 2nd foul with over 6 mins to play in the 1st half. He played until 14 mins left in the game- and it was 46-40 Vandy. We scored 11 points in 12 mins with Bloodman in there

[chef dixon]

aGAIN-

We led 29-22 when IJ left with his 2nd foul with over 6 mins to play in the 1st half. He played until 14 mins left in the game- and it was 46-40 Vandy. We scored 11 points in 12 mins with Bloodman in there

If it makes you feel better. Ware still sucks. We still can't grab a rebound. We still can't shoot. We still can't take care of the ball.